Hi, I am new to your list and wanted to post the surnames I am working on.I am finding no data on them before 1930 or after. On the 1930 NY Hempstead, Bellmore, LI census I have the following surnames all living in the same home Vincent Bestmann lives at 118 Alder Road. John Bestmann lives at 114. Vincent owns his house, valued at $8,000 and owns a radio. Vincent was married for the first time at the age of 24 and is now 45 and married. Vincent and his parents were born in NY. He is employed as a "chaufeur" in the truck industry and is not a Veteran At least one of his neighbors is a fisherman. His wife Lena Kilian -Hoag was first married at the age of 21 and is now 42. (That dates the first marriage at about 1909 for both-not necessarily to each other.) Lena was born in Germany, as well as her parents and her mother-tongue is German. She reported that she immigrated to the US in 1888, which would make her an infant, and is not a citizen. Madaline Hornung/Horning, 20 b. NY, is a stepdaughter to Vincent. She was first married at the age of 19. Stepsons John, 18 b. NY and Robert, 17 b. NY, are reported as single. Both boys are mechanics in the auto industry. All of the children's parents are listed as: Father b. NY -- Mother b. Germany. No Surname is actually listed for John and Robert and Hornung/Horning is the last surname listed. On other families, instead of ditto marks the census taker marked a squiggled line (~). John and Robert's entries have no such indication leading me to believe that the census taker considered them as Bestmann. Carl Kilian, age 70, is the father-in-law of Vincent, a widower and retired. Could his name be John Carl or Carl John? Carl and his father are reported to have been born in NY and his mother born in Germany. This may have been an error on S. A. Benjamin's part; continuing what he had written for the children. Lena's father, Carl John /John Carl Kilian owned a restaurant/Tavern named Kilian's in Long Island, where her sister, Josephina Kilian (never married) also worked. Sometime in 1950-1960 family story has a member of the family being murdered outside the tavern. Her name was Barbara Hoag ??? not real sure of the last name but am sure of the first. This Kilian/Bestmann/Hornung is a brickwall, I do not live in the State so I am trying to do this online. Thanks, Trisha FitzRandolph