Hi Pat and Researchers, Sorry, I do not find Sayre or Atkins in the "Torrey's" book. It looks like there is all you could want in the "Refugees" book, however. Can you be more specific about the information that you are looking for and I will try to get some for you? I do see a Francis Sayre. Let me know if you need that information. In answer to a question which was asked by someone else, the Torrey's book is 70 pages long (small pages) counting index. Happy Hunting, Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 4/4/2004 6:00:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rmspas@epix.net writes: This is a long shot BUT do you find a Thomas Sayre [1597-1669] listed in your book. I do not have a name for his wife. His parents were Francis Sayre & Elizabeth Atkins who were married 1591. Thanks so much for the offer, Pat Smith in PA researching - Richard "Bull" Smith lineage; Ananias Conklin; Capt Leon Gardiner; etc.