On 5/25/04 (10:42:23 AM MDT), in a posting to NY-LONGISLAND-L@rootsweb.com, Barbara (Caffecupz@aol.com) asked, "My ggfather, John Henry Barrett, was born between 1850 & 1855, "LIC". Where would I look for a b. cert? Also, there is "Moire" on some papers that does not pertain to Ireland, but to "LIC"." "LIC" may or may not refer to Long Island City. However, the early to mid-1850s is some 20 to 15 years before the creation of Long Island City. The City of Long Island City was chartered in 1870, and the area to become the City of Long Island City (includes the Village of Astoria and parts or all of adjacent hamlets) seceded from and became independent of the Town of Newtown in Queens County. I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Wishing all a Happy Shavuot (begins Tuesday, May 25 at sunset), Walter Greenspan