Nancy: AMEN! Oh....don't forget beef production....and no Mad Cow either!!!....just Hoity Toity Cows!! :>) Gary > Dear Margit: > Like Kathleen, I'm sorry you had a bad experience. It appears that one bad > apple has soured your opinion of everyone on the list, and especially > everyone who happens to be from New York. By the way, many, if not most of > the people on NY lists don't even live here but they are researching the > area. How do you know the person who insulted you lives here? Many of us > who do happen to live here have been on this, and other NY lists for years > trying to help hundreds if not thousands of people who researching in this > area but happen to be geographically challenged (not living near NY). > > No one responded to a lookup request you made. I don't recall the request > or what the locale was but perhaps there is no one on the list who can > conveniently do this for you. If it was for Montauk, wrong time of year to > ask! You might want to try Random Acts or a list that is specifically > designed for lookups. Or, repost. Many folks are coming back from the > holidays and winter vacations and may not have seen your previous request. > I don't think I did and Kathleen doesn't remember it either. > > Sometimes, not often, but sometimes, people don't know what they are asking. > They think it is a simple request and they can't understand why no one will > help them. I had a guy once get furious at me because I said I couldn't go > and do a free lookup for him, copy all of the files, mail it off, etc. from > the Suffolk County Surrogates Court. Furious. Until I told him that it was > 180 miles round trip! Did he offer to pay me mileage, gas, postage, > anything? No. Just complained about how doggone unfriendly we are in NY. > > So, although we are a tough lot here in NY, we are neither "haughty taughty" > nor deliberately rude. Far, far, from it. The only folks that I know who > think like that have either never been here for any amount of time or > haven't been here in years. It's a popular sport to say that NYers are > rude. We're used to it but it doesn't make it true. Usually it is the > other way around in my experience. You should see how some of the > out-of-towners treat our clerks at the repositories... Here in NY we call > it "hoity toity." :) > > We are to the point; perhaps not overly chatty. The pace of our city is > usually very fast. We need you to get to the point quickly if we are going > to help you or we move on. We walk fast, we talk fast. We are probably the > most tolerant people on the planet unless you block a street. Then you'd > better just expect to get honked or yelled at. > > Because of this tolerance you will rarely find a NYer making a broad brush > stereotypical statement about a whole group of people from somewhere else, > not Minnesota farmgirls certainly. Oh, maybe New Jersey. <G> By the way, > did you know that there are still family farms within 20-30 miles of NYC? > Yep. Did you know that there are 37,500 farms in NY State? Did you know > that NY ranked third in fresh sweet corn (vs grain corn for feed) and corn > silage production nationwide? Ninth in oat production? Number one in > cabbage production Number two (after Vermont) in maple syrup production. > Third, behind California and Washington State for grapes (make sure you > visit the vineyards on the east end of LI when you come, we make some > terrific wines). Eighth in the country for onion production? Twelfth for > potatoes (I think we used to be second behind Idaho until a blight hit the > Long Island crops about 35? years ago - Walter, when was that?). Second in > the nation for fresh snap beans. Second for apples AND FIRST FOR > PUMPKINS!!!! We rank 11th for Christmas Trees! Milk is NY States absolute > number one agricultural product and it accounts for over one-half of total > agricultural receipts for the state. Milk production ranks third in the > county. Yep. Lil' ol' NY. Moooooo. Those cheeseheads have nothin' on > us... ;) > Source: NY State Dept. of Agriculture, 2002 statistics. > > Hope you hang around. Best regards. Nancy. > Nancy Coleman > NLColeman@worldnet.att.net > Professional NYC & LI Research Services > www.GenealogyPro.com/ncoleman.html > ncroots@worldnet.att.net > Coordinator, Nassau County GenExchange > http://www.genexchange.org/county.cfm?state=ny&county=nassau > List Administrator, LI-Rooters > http://www.genexchange.org/MailListForm.cfm?cat=NY > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margit" <margit@eot.com> > To: <NY-LONGISLAND-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 10:05 PM > Subject: Re: [NY-LONGISLAND] Montauk, Long Island, New York? > > > > Thanks Walter, I have appreciated your help over the last few months. When > I > > visit this year, at least I will know where to go on Long Island thanks to > > you. I am now going off this list, as it appears that you have no one on > it > > that helps with lookups for obits at all or other information. I also have > > tried to help people on the list and have gotten the haughty taughty > return, > > guess being a farm girl from Minnesota would not rate high with anyone in > > New York as knowing much to help anyone. At least here in Minnesota, we > know > > how to treat people with consideration and go out of our way every day to > > help others all over the world. > > Night, > > Margit > > _\\|//_ Vennlig hilsen > > ( o o ) Margit > > *-=-=-oOO-(_)-OOo-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* > > > > > > > On 1/25/04 (7:28:05 PM MST), Margit in Minnesota with 20+" of fresh snow > > > coming your way ... (margit@eot.com) asked, > > > > > > "Would there possibly be any records online for Montauk, Long Island, > New > > > York?" > > > > > > ==== NY-LONGISLAND Mailing List ==== > > Karima, List Administrator mailto:NY-LONGISLAND-admin@rootsweb.com > > List Guidelines: > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/LongIslandWelcome.html > > > > > ==== NY-LONGISLAND Mailing List ==== > * * * IS YOUR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE UP TO DATE?? * * * > Karima, List Administrator mailto:NY-LONGISLAND-admin@rootsweb.com > List Guidelines: http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/LongIslandWelcome.html >

Thanks, Nancy. That's a nice response. Hey, I'M insulted to be considered hoity toity. I'm a displaced New Yorker. Everyone has his/her own research. If someone does have data at the ready, that's a special benefit, but it is not a given that someone is going to go do it for you......is it? If so, I've been missing a good thing all this time! g.skarka@att.net wrote: Nancy: AMEN! Oh....don't forget beef production....and no Mad Cow either!!!....just Hoity Toity Cows!! :>) Gary > Dear Margit: > Like Kathleen, I'm sorry you had a bad experience. It appears that one bad > apple has soured your opinion of everyone on the list, and especially > everyone who happens to be from New York. By the way, many, if not most of > the people on NY lists don't even live here but they are researching the > area. How do you know the person who insulted you lives here? Many of us > who do happen to live here have been on this, and other NY lists for years > trying to help hundreds if not thousands of people who researching in this > area but happen to be geographically challenged (not living near NY). > > No one responded to a lookup request you made. I don't recall the request > or what the locale was but perhaps there is no one on the list who can > conveniently do this for you. If it was for Montauk, wrong time of year to > ask! You might want to try Random Acts or a list that is specifically > designed for lookups. Or, repost. Many folks are coming back from the > holidays and winter vacations and may not have seen your previous request. > I don't think I did and Kathleen doesn't remember it either. > > Sometimes, not often, but sometimes, people don't know what they are asking. > They think it is a simple request and they can't understand why no one will > help them. I had a guy once get furious at me because I said I couldn't go > and do a free lookup for him, copy all of the files, mail it off, etc. from > the Suffolk County Surrogates Court. Furious. Until I told him that it was > 180 miles round trip! Did he offer to pay me mileage, gas, postage, > anything? No. Just complained about how doggone unfriendly we are in NY. > > So, although we are a tough lot here in NY, we are neither "haughty taughty" > nor deliberately rude. Far, far, from it. The only folks that I know who like that have either never been here for any amount of time or > haven't been here in years. It's a popular sport to say that NYers are > rude. We're used to it but it doesn't make it true. Usually it is the > other way around in my experience. You should see how some of the > out-of-towners treat our clerks at the repositories... Here in NY we call > it "hoity toity." :) > > We are to the point; perhaps not overly chatty. The pace of our city is > usually very fast. We need you to get to the point quickly if we are going > to help you or we move on. We walk fast, we talk fast. We are probably the > most tolerant people on the planet unless you block a street. Then you'd > better just expect to get honked or yelled at. > > Because of this tolerance you will rarely find a NYer making a broad brush > stereotypical statement about a whole group of people from somewhere else, > not Minnesota farmgirls certainly. Oh, maybe New Jersey. By the way, > did you know that there are still family farms within 20-30 miles of NYC? > Yep. Did you know that there are 37,500 farms in NY State? Did you know > that NY ranked third in fresh sweet corn (vs grain corn for feed) and corn > silage production nationwide? Ninth in oat production? Number one in > cabbage production Number two (after Vermont) in maple syrup production. > Third, behind California and Washington State for grapes (make sure you > visit the vineyards on the east end of LI when you come, we make some > terrific wines). Eighth in the country for onion production? Twelfth for > potatoes (I think we used to be second behind Idaho until a blight hit the > Long Island crops about 35? years ago - Walter, when was that?). Second in > the nation for fresh snap beans. Second for apples AND FIRST FOR > PUMPKINS!!!! We rank 11th for Christmas Trees! Milk is NY States absolute > number one agricultural product and it accounts for over one-half of total > agricultural receipts for the state. Milk production ranks third in the > county. Yep. Lil' ol' NY. Moooooo. Those cheeseheads have nothin' on > us... ;) > Source: NY State Dept. of Agriculture, 2002 statistics. > > Hope you hang around. Best regards. Nancy. > Nancy Coleman > NLColeman@worldnet.att.net > Professional NYC & LI Research Services > www.GenealogyPro.com/ncoleman.html > ncroots@worldnet.att.net > Coordinator, Nassau County GenExchange > http://www.genexchange.org/county.cfm?state=ny&county=nassau > List Administrator, LI-Rooters > http://www.genexchange.org/MailListForm.cfm?cat=NY > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margit" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 10:05 PM > Subject: Re: [NY-LONGISLAND] Montauk, Long Island, New York? > > > > Thanks Walter, I have appreciated your help over the last few months. When > I > > visit this year, at least I will know where to go on Long Island thanks to > > you. I am now going off this list, as it appears that you have no one on > it > > that helps with lookups for obits at all or other information. I also have > > tried to help people on the list and have gotten the haughty taughty > return, > > guess being a farm girl from Minnesota would not rate high with anyone in > > New York as knowing much to help anyone. At least here in Minnesota, we > know > > how to treat people with consideration and go out of our way every day to > > help others all over the world. > > Night, > > Margit > > _\\|//_ Vennlig hilsen > > ( o o ) Margit > > *-=-=-oOO-(_)-OOo-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-* > > > > > > > On 1/25/04 (7:28:05 PM MST), Margit in Minnesota with 20+" of fresh snow > > > coming your way ... (margit@eot.com) asked, > > > > > > "Would there possibly be any records online for Montauk, Long Island, > New > > > York?" > > > > > > ==== NY-LONGISLAND Mailing List ==== > > Karima, List Administrator mailto:NY-LONGISLAND-admin@rootsweb.com > > List Guidelines: > http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/LongIslandWelcome.html > > > > > ==== NY-LONGISLAND Mailing List ==== > * * * IS YOUR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE UP TO DATE?? * * * > Karima, List Administrator mailto:NY-LONGISLAND-admin@rootsweb.com > List Guidelines: http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/LongIslandWelcome.html > ==== NY-LONGISLAND Mailing List ==== * * * IS YOUR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE UP TO DATE?? * * * Karima, List Administrator mailto:NY-LONGISLAND-admin@rootsweb.com List Guidelines: http://userweb.springnet1.com/quest/LongIslandWelcome.html Jan G. Miller jgrellim@sbcglobal.net