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    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] Martin Sivertsen
    2. On 3/17/04 (12:42:34 PM MST), Helge Fugelsnes (fugelsne@online.no) asked, "I am wondering if I have any secondcousin`s in East Hampton, Suffolk, NY. Therefore I ask if anyone knows anything about Martin Sivertsen who died in East Hampton in Dec 1981. I do not know if he was married or not.I hope somone can answer me on this." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the East Hampton Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): East Hampton Library 159 Main Street East Hampton, NY 11937 Tel: 631/324-0222 Fax: 631/329-5947 eMail: ehamlib@suffolk.lib.ny.us http://www.easthamptonlibrary.org/ The pertinent geography: East Hampton is a village (incorporated in 1920) in the southwestern part of the Town of East Hampton, in the southeastern part of Suffolk County. There are currently 2 villages (municipal corporations) and 7 hamlets (unincorporated areas) all or partly in the Town of East Hampton. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Village of East Hampton is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Wainscott and the Hamlet of East Hampton North; on the east by the Hamlet of Amagansett; on the south by the Great South Bay; and on the west by the Hamlet of East Hampton. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Village of East Hampton has a different border than does the "East Hampton, NY 11937" postal zone (i.e., a place can have an East Hampton mailing address and not be in East Hampton). Those places that have an "East Hampton, NY" mailing address that are not in the Village of East Hampton are in the Hamlet of East Hampton North, the Hamlet of Amagansett and the Hamlet of Springs. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier editions of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Village of East Hampton (incorporated in 1920) in the Town of East Hampton, Suffolk County on pages 15 & 32 (map) and 33 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Sincerely, Walter Greenspan . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

    03/17/2004 07:52:01
    1. Re: [NY-LONGISLAND] Martin Sivertsen
    2. Cadia Los
    3. Hello, You might try the East Hampton Star directly: East Hampton Star P.O. Box 5002 East Hampton, New York 11937 631-324-0002 editor@easthamptonstar.com ~~Cadia

    03/17/2004 07:27:49
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] Robbins of Nassau Co.,New York
    2. On 3/17/04 (11:36:37 AM MST), in a posting to the Nassau County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com, Robert MacPhail (rmacphail2@shaw.ca) asked, "Hello,I'm looking to for info on Robbins of Nassau Co.,New York.If anyone wishes to swap info please contact me." I believe that there is a Robbins Lane in the Hamlet of Syosset, Town of Oyster Bay. Prior to 1990, this would have been in the Hamlet of Locust Grove. Thus, you may want to contact the Syosset Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Syosset Public Library 225 South Oyster Bay Road Syosset, NY 11791-5897 Tel: 516/921-7161 Fax: 516/921-8771 eMail: http://www.nassaulibrary.org/syosset/emailref.html http://www.nassaulibrary.org/syosset/ Syosset is one of those communities on Long Island where the majority of the places with a Syosset mailing address are not in Syosset. The pertinent geography: Syosset is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the central part of the Town of Oyster Bay, in the northeastern part of Nassau County. There are 18 hamlets and 18 villages all or partly within the Town of Oyster Bay. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise: The Hamlet of Syosset in the Town of Oyster Bay is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of East Norwich and the Villages of Oyster Bay Cove and Laurel Hollow; on the east by the Hamlet of Woodbury; on the south by the Hamlets of Plainview, Hicksville and Jericho; and, on the west by the Village of Muttontown. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Hamlet of Syosset has a different border than does the "Syosset, NY 11791" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Syosset mailing address and not be in Syosset and a place can be in Syosset and have other than a Syosset mailing address). ............................................acres .....Hamlet of Syosset............3,241 .....Syosset, NY 11791...........7,339 As you can observe, a bit more than 1 out of 2 places with a Syosset mailing address are not in Syosset. These places are in parts of the Villages of Muttontown and Laurel Hollow; and, at the same time, there are places that are in Syosset that have a "Jericho, NY" mailing address. Prior to 1990, the part of the Hamlet of Syosset south of the Jericho Turnpike was the separate Hamlet of Locust Grove (1,354 acres). For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authorityweb site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Syosset in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County on pages 5 & 11 (map) and 12 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of place shave a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

    03/17/2004 06:53:25
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] NY State Historical Catalog now Online
    2. The following announcement was made by Melissa McAfee (mcafee@NYSHA.ORG), Research Library Director, New York State Historical Association & The Farmers' Museum in Cooperstown, NY: Research Library's Online Catalog Now Available on the Web Cooperstown, N.Y., March 15, 2004- Pathfinder, the online catalog of the Research Library of the New York State Historical Association and The Farmers' Museum, is now available on the web at: http://www.nysha.org/library/ The press release continues, "Named after the principal character in James Fenimore Cooper's novel of the same name, Pathfinder will enable scholars, teachers, students, genealogists, and other researchers to access the Library's catalog via the Internet twenty-four hours a day. Since 1899 the Research Library has developed important collections of primary and secondary source materials in agricultural history, American art and architectural history, genealogy, museum studies, Native American art and culture, and New York State history. The Library's Special Collections Department has a wide variety of materials including rare books, manuscripts, archival collections, maps, broadsides, and ephemera. More information on the library's collections, online resources, and exhibitions is available on our website. Additional records will be added to Pathfinder over the next couple of years as funding for this project becomes available." I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan

    03/17/2004 03:50:45
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] Clarkes from Fermanagh.
    2. Annie Nolan
    3. Many Clarkes went from Stonepark,Derrylin, Co Fermanagh.to U S A during the 1800s.Some went to New York. Are there any descendants of these Clarkes,in Long Island or Brooklyn? Clarkes in Co Fermanagh,would like to hear from you. Thank you. Annie.

    03/16/2004 08:17:31
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] Sivertsen
    2. On 3/16/04 (10:25:12 AM MST), in a posting to NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com, Helge Fugelsnes (fugelsne@online.no) asked, "I am looking for information about descendants of Martin Sivertsen. Martin was born 1877 in Norway, he was a sailor, he got married in New York. Martin came back to Norway in the late 1940, he came along with a daughter and a granddaughter, but those two went back to the US. Martin died 29 dec 1952, he died in a fire when his hous burnd down. I find a Martin Sivertsen that can match in the sencus for 1920 and 1930. In 1920 he lives in Cole st. Brooklyn, Kings, NY and in 1930 he lives in Roslyn Heights Village, North Hempstead, Nassau, NY." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Shelter Rock Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Shelter Rock Public Library 165 Searingtown Road Albertson, NY 11507-1521 Tel: 516/248-7363 Fax: 516/248-4897 eMail: ShelterRock@srpl.org http://www.nassaulibrary.org/shelter/ Roslyn Heights is one of those communities on Long Island where many of the places (about 1 out of every 2 places) with a Roslyn Heights mailing address are not in Roslyn Heights. The pertinent geography: Roslyn Heights is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the center part of the Town of North Hempstead, in the west-central part of Nassau County. There are 30 villages (municipal corporations) and 18 hamlets all or partly in the Town of North Hempstead. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Roslyn Heights in the Town of North Hempstead is bordered on the north by the Villages of Roslyn Estates, Roslyn and East Hills; on the east by the Villages of East Hills and Old Westbury; on the south by the Villages of Mineola and East Williston; and, on the west by the Village of East Williston, the Hamlets of Albertson and Searingtown and the Village of North Hills. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Hamlet of Roslyn Heights has a different border than does the "Roslyn Heights, NY 11577" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Roslyn Heights mailing address and not be in Roslyn Heights). ..................................................area .....Hamlet of Roslyn Heights.........944 .....Roslyn Heights, NY 11577.....1,704* Thus, about 1 out of every 2 places with a "Roslyn Heights, NY" mailing address are NOT in the Hamlet of Roslyn Heights. (There are many places in the Villages of North Hills and East Hills that have a "Roslyn Heights, NY" mailing address.) For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Roslyn Heights in the Town of North Hempstead, Nassau County on pages 5 & 6 (map) and 7 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

    03/16/2004 05:52:39
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] PROBATE/John Dawson MILLER/1931
    2. On 3/15/04 (1:03:06 PM MST), as part of an eMail to NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com, Donna Ristenbatt (DRistenbatt@dejazzd.com) asked, "Is there a will index for Nassau County that I might access? I am trying to find out if John Dawson MILLER left a will in 1931. He was of Oyster Bay. He was living in Oyster Bay on the 1930 census and feel he died there." Probate records, including Wills, Estates and Administration/Small Estates are filed in Surrogate's Court. Surrogate's Court 262 Old Country Road Mineola, New York 11501 To find out the proper procedure for obtaining this information, you can call 516/571-2082. Additionally, you may want to contact either/or the Oyster Bay Historical Society and the Oyster Bay-East Norwich Public Library (the Society or the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): : The Oyster Bay Historical Society P.O. Box 297 20 Summit Street Oyster Bay, NY 11771-0297 Tel: 516/922-5032 Fax: 516/922-6892 eMail: OBHistory@aol.com http://members.aol.com/OBHistory/ Oyster Bay-East Norwich Public Library 89 East Main Street Oyster Bay 11771 Tel: 516/922-1212 Fax: 516/922-6453 eMail: ??????? http://www.nassaulibrary.org/oysterbay/index.html Oyster Bay is one of those communities on Long Island where the majority of the places with an Oyster Bay mailing address are not in Oyster Bay, and it is important to know that there are 3 "Oyster Bays" (from smallest to largest, in order of acreage): 1. There is the Hamlet of Oyster Bay = 763 acres 2. There is the Oyster Bay, NY 11771 postal zone = 7,002 acres 3. There is the Town of Oyster Bay = 70,908 acres The pertinent geography: Oyster Bay is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the northern most part of the Town of Oyster Bay, in the north-eastern part of Nassau County. There are 18 villages (municipal corporations) and 18 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Oyster Bay. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Oyster Bay in the Town of Oyster Bay is bordered on the north by Oyster Bay Harbor, on the east by the Village of Oyster Bay Cove, on the south by the Hamlet of East Norwich and on the west by the Village of Upper Brookville and the Village of Mill Neck. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Hamlet of Oyster Bay has a different border than does the "Oyster Bay, NY 11771" postal zone (i.e., a place can have an Oyster Bay mailing address and not be in Oyster Bay). .............................................acres .....Hamlet of Oyster Bay............763 .....Oyster Bay, NY 11771........7,002 .....Town of Oyster Bay..........70,908 Thus, you can readily see that 9 of every 10 places with an "Oyster Bay" mailing address are NOT in the Hamlet of Oyster Bay. [These places may be in the Village of Centre Island (incorporated in 1926), the Village of Cove Neck (incorporated in 1927), the Village of Oyster Bay Cove (incorporated in 1931), the Village of Laurel Hollow (incorporated in 1926), the Hamlet of East Norwich, the Village of Muttontown (incorporated in 1931), the Village of Upper Brookville (incorporated in 1932) and the Village of Mill Neck (incorporated in 1924).] For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Oyster Bay in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County on pages 5 & 11 (map) and 12 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

    03/15/2004 08:34:03
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] Obituary help please Estelle Smith died Noveber 1965
    2. On 3/12/04 (10:30:42 PM MST), in a posting to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Martha W. Barker (mbarker@austin.rr.com) asked, "Hi I am new to the list and was hoping someone could help me find my 2G Aunts obituary and confirm that I have actually found her. All I have found is a SSDI listing that seems to be a perfect match. Wondering if the obituary has more information. All I have is that an Estelle Smith born June 15, 1878 died in November 1965. I believe this is Esettle Austin Moore Smith, with of Charles Moore. She was born in Mobile Co. Alabama and supposedly left to go to New York in 1914 and broke off contact with the family." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Westhampton Free Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Westhampton Free Library 7 Library Avenue Westhampton Beach, NY 11978 Tel: 631/288-3335 Fax: 631/288-5715 eMail: whamlib@suffolk.lib.ny.us http://wham.suffolk.lib.ny.us/ The pertinent geography: Westhampton Beach is a village (incorporated in 1928) in the southwestern section of the Town of Southampton, in the eastern end of Suffolk County. There are currently 6 villages (incorporated municipalities) and 16 hamlets (unincorporated areas) all or partly in the Town of Southampton. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Village of Westhampton Beach in the Town of Southampton is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Westhampton; on the east by the Hamlet of Quiogue; on the south by the Atlantic Ocean; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Westhampton. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Village of Westhampton Beach has a different border than does the "Westhampton Beach, NY 11978" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Westhampton Beach mailing address and not be in Westhampton Beach and a place can have other than a Westhampton Beach mailing address and be in Westhampton Beach). Those places that have a "Westhampton Beach, NY" mailing address that are not in the Village of Westhampton Beach are in the Hamlet of Westhampton; and, at the same time, there are places in the Village of Westhampton Beach with a "Quogue, NY 11959" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier editions of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Village of Westhampton Beach (incorporated in 1928) in the Town of Southampton, Suffolk County on pages 15 & 28 (map) and 29 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

    03/13/2004 05:20:10
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] Timothy Shaw (d.1779) Looking for ancestors & descendants
    2. On 3/13/04 (8:57:33 PM MST), as part of a posting to both NY-LONGISLAND-L@rootsweb.com & GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com, George Shaw (georshaw@enoreo.on.ca) asked, "Looking for information on the ancestry & descendants of Timothy: 1. TIMOTHY1 SHAW died 1779 in New Lotts, Queens Co.?, Long Island, New York." New Lots was a town in Kings County; however, the Town of New Lots was not created until 1852 when the Town of New Lots secedes from the Town of Flatbush. Kings County then consists of 2 cities (Brooklyn and Williamsburgh) and 6 towns (Bushwick, Flatbush, Flatlands, Gravesend, New Lots and New Utrecht). Then in 1886, the Town of New Lots was annexed into the City of Brooklyn. Kings County now 1 city (Brooklyn) and 4 towns (Flatbush, Flatlands, Gravesend and New Utrecht). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan

    03/13/2004 04:10:19
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] Timothy Shaw (d.1779) Looking for ancestors & descendants
    2. George T.H. Shaw
    3. Looking for information on the ancestry & descendants of Timothy: 1. TIMOTHY1 SHAW died 1779 in New Lotts, Queens Co.?, Long Island, New York.. Notes for TIMOTHY SHAW: 1) Muster Rolls of New York Provincial Troops, 1755-1764, Collections of the New York Historical Society for the Year 1891, Committee on Publications: Edward F. De Lancey, Daniel Parish, Jr., Charles Isham, Publication Fund Series, New York: Printed for the Society, MDCCCXCII. "Intoduction. This volume contains the Muster Rolls of the various regiments and smaller organizations of troops raised and put in the field by the Province of New York, which served during the Seven Years' War in America, or as it was later called, "The Old French War"- the war which terminated forever the power of France in the New World. They cover the whole period of that war from 1755 to 1763, except for those for 1757, which have disappeared from the archives of the State of New York at Albany, where all of the others are perserved as originally filed in the office of the Provincial Secretary of the Colony of New York. These documents and papers contain a mass of information of much value, and not easily accessible heretofore to the historical inquirer. They are as follows: 1. A list of all the acts of the legislature of the province -seventeen in number-under which the various regiments and smaller bodies of troops were raised, equipped, paid, and subsisted. This gives the year and day of the month in which each act was passed, thus enabling them to be consulted in any one of the volumes of the colonial statutes of New York, ancient or modern. (p.xii) 2. The offical orders, directions, and proclamations of the Governors James De Lancy, Sir Charles Hardy, and Cadwallader Colden, during the war, relative to the troops, the regiments, their officers, their movements, their destinations, and the events of the campaigns; in short, an official history of the direction of the war in New York, of which little has been before known. Interspersed in these documents are a few excerpts from newspapers of the day, called forth by their issues or by specific incidents of the war. (p. xii) 3. Lists of commissioned officers as far as they could be obtained from records, and lists of names of non-commissioned officers and privates, found in the Commissaries, John Cruger, Beverley Robinson, and Peter van Brugh Livingston, who formed a joint commission. From the same accounts, lists of the names of deceased soldiers from 1756 to 1762 whose heirs received the pay due them at the time of their death. (p. xii) 4. Lists of deserters, and notices and advertisements in relation to deserters during the war. (p. xii) 5. Lists of commissions signed by the Governors. (p. xii) 6. A book of military appointments and other military information in 1759, 1760, and 1761, kept by John Godby, a clerk in the office of the Secretary of the province, in the performance of his official duties. (p. xii) 7. Lists of the commissions issued for the provincial regiments, dated April 6, 1761 and October 8, 1761. (p. xii) 8. Lists of warrants issued to captains for bounty and enlistments monies, with the amount of each warrant in New York currency. (p. xii) Edward F. De Lancey August, 1897" pp. 276-277, MUSTER ROOLS OF NEW YORK PROVINCIAL TROOPS, 1760, MEN'S NAMES ... #66 - Timothy Shaw, Date of Inlistmt. - May 1st., Age - 45, Where born - Ireland, Trade - Labourer, Out of what Company of Militia - Campbell, Officer who enlisted - Capt. Schuyler ... 2) In the New York Militia Rolls Index 1664-1775, under the "Index Of Names" , there is listed a "Shaw, Timothy ............... 567". This I believe to be our Timothy Shaw. The purpose of this index was to supply the name of ever person who was carried on every Military Roll of record in the Province of New York from the year 1664, when the English took possession to 1775, when the Colonies arose in revolt. The names covered all the muster rolls that were printed in the Second and Third Annual Reports of the State Historian, known as Colonial Series, Vol. I and II. The figures "I" and "II" that followed a name, indicated the volume in which that names appeared. The General Index for the Third Annual Report, known as Volume II Colonial Series followed, and begun on page 1131. 3) Alexander Fraser, Second Report of Archive For The Province Of Ontario (Toronto: Printed by order of the legislative Assembly of Ontario, printed ad published by L. K. Cameron, Printer to King s Most Excellent Majesty, 1950), pp. 884-885 Proceed in Of Loyalist Commission, St. Johns, 1797, Vol. XVI, before Commissioner Pemberton, Claimants, MS 19. New Claim - February 23, 1787. Clamt. Says. He went up the River. He only came down once & staid a short time. Is settled in Queens Co. He lived in Dutchess Co. Joined the Brit. Govert. In New York. Had from the first declared in favr. Of the Brit. Govert. He was confined several times which obliged him to go within the lines for protection. His family were sent to him in 1777. Had a farm in Dutchess Co., inherited it on his Father s death. Produces Deed From in Philip Philips to Timothy Shaw, Father of Claimt., of his Right & Title to Improvements on Gregory farm forever. There is no date to this assignment but Claimt. Says it was 15 years ago. Says his Father was in Possession for 7 yrs. Before the was. His Father died on Long Island, 1779, without a will. It seems from Claimt's account that Gregory had a Lease, but Mr. Philips, the Landlord, turned out Gregory and then gave the improvements to Claimt's father. His father made no will. Claimt. is his only son. Has a sister living in the States. There appears by survey 186 acres. His father had been a Loyalist and was confined on which he went within ye lines, where he died. Does not know who has the land. Says his father improved the place greatly after he got it. Valued it a 500L. The stock was chiefly his father. Some part his own. It consisted of: - 4 horses, 15 cows, 2 pair of oxen, 8 fat cattle, 25 head cattle, 25 sheep, 14 hogs, corn in the barn, hay, farming utensils. Of these 1 horse, 8 cows, 7 young cattle, 14 sheep, 10 hogs, wheat belonged to Caimt. The rest belonged to Claimt. The rest belonged to his father. All this was taken away after he went away. Alexr. Brown, Wits: Knew Timothy Shaw, Father of Claimt. He was Loyal. Went within the Lines for Protection. Claimt. was also Loyal & went on that acct. within the Lines. The Father died at Long Island. claimant is his only son. He has a sister in the States. Knew the Farm. Thinks it was given to Timothy Shaw about 1766. There was a mob by the Tenants against the Landlord, Mr. Philips. Timothy Shaw was one who assisted Philips for which & other services he gave him the farm. Witness understood that Philips gave the Gregories a Farm elsewhere, but they still made a claim and in 1766 they turned the old man out, but he got Possession again & then staid till he went within the Brit. Lines. Is told the Gregories are not in Possessions. The farm was about 200 acres, chiefly improved. Knew the Stock. Heard of its being seized & sold. 30 or 40 head of cattles, 4 horses, 1 yoke of oxen, 13 sheep, 10 Hogs, Hay, Understood it was seized & sold by Commissioners of forfeiture. (Probably 1782, William S. Pelletreau in his book History of Putnam County s on page 282 mentions land seizures and then the selling of.) 4) William S. Pelletreau, History of Putnam County, New York, With Bibliographical Sketches Of Its Prominent Men (Philadephia: W.W. Preston, 1886, ISBN 0-89062-006-7), refers to Timothy Shaw: - 4.1) Timothy Shaw defends the land claims of of the Philipse Family against the Nimham First Nations in an "Affidavit of Timothy Shaw, 1767". Being an illiterate man, but having the oral histoical knowledge of the area, Timothy marked the legally prepared, sworn "Affidavit" with his mark: "X". This Shaw Affidavit will be referred to a number of times in land disputes prior to the American Revolution. It lists the early settlers, where the Nimham lived and when the first settlers arrived. Basically it stated that the Nimham had no claims to the lands held by the Philipse Family. Putnam County basically covered the area that was originally the Philipse Family Patent. (Pelletreau, pp. 77, 78, 79, 120 &121) 4.2) Timothy Shaw made his home at the north end of the lake which from him took the name of Shaw s Pond. which continued to bear his name till modern times, when it changed to the more romantic and musical title of Lake Gleneida. As in his affidavit made in 1767 he states that he was well acquainted with all the settlements that had been made in these parts within twenty five years, it is evident that he must have been here as early as 1742, and he doubtless has the honour of being the first in the present village of Carmel. (Pelletreau, p. 282) 4.3) In old burying ground on the Belden farm, at the southwest corner of Lake Gleneida, and where the slaves of the Belden family were buried in a small enclosure surrounding a single grave and a head stone recording the death of Deborah Shaw, who died May 5th., 1824, aged 84. She was a white woman who lived with several families. She requested to be buried in that place because, as she said, "my ancestors lie there." It is probable that she was the daughter of Timothy Shaw and that a family burying place was there in early times. (Pelletreau, p. 282) 4.4) Lake Gleneida.-This beautiful lake, which is one of the principal beauties of the landscape, was in earlier days known as Shaw's Pond, from Timothy Shaw, who was one of the earliest settlers in the town. This name, though of time honored antiquity, was too plain and unpoetical to suit the fastidious taste of modern times. Accordingly a meeting was held on the evening of December 21st., 1852, for the bestowing a new name upon what was justly considered the beauty of Carmel. (Pelletreau, pp. 297, 298) Researcher: George-Terrence Hall Shaw, georshaw@enoreo.on.ca, 162 Bay St., Cobourg, Ontario. K9A 1P6. 5) Saw this reference to a map of New Lotts in Queens, Long Island, New York: Johnson's 1873 map of land divisions of plot owners with main street dividers. Street names don't change much with time so you may find something of interest even though the map is one hundred (100) years later. This is probably where Timothy Shaw died. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~blkyn/map/newlots.html (Janet Newman, janet.t.newman@worldnet.att.net, 26 April 2000) More About TIMOTHY SHAW: Occupation: farmer Children of TIMOTHY SHAW are: i. JOHN2 SHAW (Source: Affidavit sworn by Thomas Peters before the New Brunswick Supreme Court, 12th. October 1811, children of John & Amy Shaw: Catherine, Susannah, John, Amy, Phebe, and Timothy and whom they married: Catherine Shaw married Thomas Carpenter, Susannah Shaw married Mayse Case, Pbebe Shaw married William Morrell.), b. Carmel, old Dutchess Co., N.Y.; d. Abt. April 1810, Wickham, Queens Co., N.B.; m. AMY CARLE (Source: Rev. Mr. Clarke's registry (Source: Margaret Prugh, 220 Fulton Ave., Fredericton, N.B. 9 September 1991), St. John Anglican Church Records, Gagetown, Queens. Co., N.B., (F1140 (P.A.N.B.)), July 27, 1792, Hampstead, baptized, Amy, wife to John Shaw.); b. Bef. 1755; d. Bef. 1831. Notes for JOHN SHAW: 1) LOYALIST PAPERS 150 YEARS OLD The following is a copy of the Loyalist Papers of the great-grandfather of Aubrey L. Shaw, of Henderson Settlement, Queens County, N.B. It would be interesting to know how many Loyalist descendants can produce their Loyalist papers. The papers are dated March 29th., 1779. By Order of His Excellency SIR HENRY CLINTON, K.B. General and Commander in chief of all his majesty's Forces within the Colonies lying on the Atlantic Ocean from Nova-Scotia to West-Florida, inclusive, &c. &c. Permission will be granted to Loyal Subjects, to inclose and cultivate for their own Benefit, Portions, of the cleared Wood Lands, and other uncultivated Lands of Persons not under the Protection of Government on Long-Island and Staten-Island, and to erect temporary Habitations thereon. Certificates for the character of those that apply, are to produced at the Office of Police, and transmitted to the Commandant. New York, March 6, 1779. DANIEL JONES, Maj. Gen. Commandant +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ By Order of His Excellency SIR HENRY CLINTON, K.B. General and Commander in Chief of all his majesty's Forces within the Colonies lying on the Atlantic Ocean, from Nova Scotia to West-Florida, inclusive, &c. &c. Permission and Protection is hereby Granted to John Shaw to inclose and cultivate for his own benefit till further Ordes, Fifty Acres of the Lands of John Wycoff at New Lotts in Kings County on Long Island. And also to occupy one half of the Dwelling House and Barn standing on the above mentioned lands (the said John Wycoff being in Rebellion) and to erect a temporary Habitation for himself and Family, and sufficient shelter for his Cattle. Upon Condition that the said John Shaw behaves himself, as becomes a Loyal Subject of the Crown of Great-Britain, and that the said Fifty Acres are properly inclosed and cultivated according to the intention of this Permit. No Assignment of this Permit, or transfer of this land, &c. will be allowed but by application as for the original Permit. The Fifty Acres alotted are to be as compact and contiguous as possible, so as not to intersect and prevent other Grants. Given under my Hand, at New York the 29th Day of March 1779. D. JONES, M. Gen. Comman. +++++++++++++++++++ By Order of the Commandant, JOHN L.C. ROOME, Secty. To all whom it may concern, This Permit is not to dispossess any Person, who has cultivated or stocked the Farm or Lands within mentioned, provided the said Person on Sight of this Permit produces before the Police sufficient authority for so doing, with proper Certificates of their good Character. New York, March 21, 1779, D. JONES, M. Gen. WHEREAS Mr. John Shaw with his family has for some years during the late Contest lived in the neighbourhood of us the subscribers, being Inhabitants of Kings County on Long Island and the said John Shaw during the time he lived amongst us, has with his family, behaved as a respectable and honest neighbour. We therefore think it our duty to recommend the said John Shaw as a worthy member of society. Witness our hands this fifteenth Day of April Anno Domini 1783. JOHANNES J. LOTT, HENDRICK LOTT, NICHS SCHENCK, EVERT SUYDAM, SAMUEL RYDER, JURRIEN LOTT, THEUNIS BOGART, JEREMIAH WILLIAMSEN, JACOB COZINE, JOHN BEDELL, FREDERICK SIMONSON, WILLIAM JONES, CORNELIUS STRYKER Source: The Kings County Record, Sussex, New Brunswick, Friday, March 7, 1930. (Dan Johnson) ii. DEBORAH? SHAW. Thank you, George Shaw

    03/13/2004 03:56:55
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] Powers Family in Suffolk cty.
    2. On 3/9/04 (7:17:39 PM MST), as part of a posting to the Suffolk County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Debbe Hagner (dhagner@attglobal.net) asked, "I would like to know if there is a Main Catholic church in Suffolk cty." All of Suffolk County, except for the island Hamlet of Fishers Island, is currently in the Roman Catholic Diocese of Rockville Centre. Ms. Jean Walsh, Diocesan Archivist Diocesan Archives R.C. DIOCESE OF ROCKVILLE CENTRE Seminary of the Immaculate Conception 440 West Neck Road Huntington, NY 11743 Tel: 631/423-0483, ext. 109 Fax: 631/423-7922 eMail: archives@drvc.org http://www.drvc.org/ Ms. Walsh is responsible for records on and after 1957, when the Diocese of Rockville Centre separated from the Diocese of Brooklyn. Likewise, the Diocese of Brooklyn is responsible for records on and after 1853, when the Diocese of Brooklyn separated from the Diocese of New York. The Diocese of Rockville Centre currently covers all of Nassau County and almost all of Suffolk County, except for Fishers Island. (Fishers Island, in the Town of Southold, Suffolk County, is in the Diocese of Hartford, Connecticut.) Secondly, for information on obits, etc., for people in the Hamlet of Brentwood, you may want to contact the Brentwood Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Brentwood Public Library Second Avenue & Fourth Street Brentwood, NY 11717 Tel: 631/273-7883 Fax: 631/???-???? eMail: ????? http://brentwood.suffolk.lib.ny.us/ The pertinent geography: Brentwood is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the northwestern section of the Town of Islip, in the southwestern part of Suffolk County, along the border with the Towns of Smithtown, Huntington and Babylon. There are 4 villages (incorporated municipalities) and 23 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Islip. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Brentwood in the Town of Islip is bordered on the north by Hamlets of Commack and Hauppauge in the Town of Smithtown (the Islip/Smithtown town line); on the east by the Hamlets of Central Islip and Islip; on the south by the Hamlets of Islip, North Bay Shore and Baywood; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Deer Park in the Town of Babylon (the Islip/Babylon town line) and the Hamlet of Dix Hills in the Town of Huntington (the Islip/Huntington town line). And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Hamlet of Brentwood has a different border than does the "Brentwood, NY" postal zone. Hence, places, such as part of the Hamlet of Dix Hills in the Town of Huntington, can have a "Brentwood, NY" mailing address and not be in Brentwood and places in Brentwood may have other than a "Brentwood, NY" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier editions of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Brentwood in the Town of Islip, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 20 (map) and 21 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

    03/09/2004 05:27:11
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] Edwards, Stanborough, Osborne
    2. Hello Researchers, I have discovered what appears to be an interesting connection with my Edwards line. Descendants of Josiah Stanborough 1 [1] Josiah Stanborough b: 1600 in Stanstead, Kent, England d: 1661 .. +Alice Wheeler b: WFT Est. 1589-1628 d: WFT Est. 1611-1711 *2nd Wife of [1] Josiah Stanborough: .. +Frances Gransden b: November 22, 1618 in Tunbridge, Kent, Eng d: Bef. 1657 .... 2 Peregrine Stansborough b: 1640 in Southampton, Suffolk, England d: January 15, 1700/01 ........ +Sarah James b: WFT Est. 1626-1649 d: WFT Est. 1669-1738 .... 2 Josiah Stanbrough b: 1646 in Southampton, Suffolk, England, NY d: 1690 ........ +Anne Chatfield b: 1649 d: WFT Est. 1658-1741 .... 2 [2] Mary Stanborough b: 1642 in East Hampton, Suffolk, NY, (or Southampton) d: March 17, 1701/02 ........ +John Hoffington .... *2nd Husband of [2] Mary Stanborough: ........ +John Edwards b: 1640 in ., East Hampton, Suffolk, NY d: 1693 .... 2 Alice Stanborough b: Abt. 1643 in Southhampton, Long Island, NY .... 2 Anna Stanborough b: Abt. 1646 in Southampton, Long Island, New York .... 2 Sarah Stanborough b: Abt. 1634 in England d: Abt. 1697 ........ +Stephen Osborne b: February 24, 1632/33 in Ashford, Kent, England d: July 20, 1698 I am finding conflicting information about Sarah Stanborough/Stansborough/Stanbrough and Stephen Osborne/Osborn. It is difficult to find research online to prove conclusively that the Sarah who married Stephen Osborne is the daughter of Josiah and Frances Stanborough. Some information even lists Stephen as marrying a Mary Stanborough. If Sarah is placed with the right family, I find that hard to believe, because it seems pretty well documented as to Mary marrying John Edwards and John Hoffington....Can anyone verify if I am on the right track with this connection? As it turns out, this branch of Osbornes who originate evidently in Kent, England, as do the Stanboroughs, Aldersons, and Edwards, connects full circle with my husband's Vincent/Hammersley lines. This makes him related to many of the same people, that I appear to be related to. Thanks for any help. Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop

    03/09/2004 04:55:28
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] WILLIAMSBURG-1850 Mortality Schedules
    2. WILLIAMSBURG, Kings Co., NY - 1850 US Census Mortality Schedules Transcribed by Judith A. Herbert Now on the Bklyn Pages under CENSUS & DEATH Thanks to Judy for her generousity in offering it to us! http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Death/1850.WilliamsburgMortSched.html

    03/08/2004 11:58:09
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] Queens surname registry
    2. Pat Connors
    3. I have updated the Queens Surname Registry. Please review your submissions for accuracy. You can access it at the Queens website at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyqueen2/ At the top of the Queens website, you will find drop down menus, under Genealogy, click on Surnames. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

    03/07/2004 02:55:37
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] Fred (Knut, Karl J, Raymond and Jenny Augusta)
    2. On 3/6/04 (2:34:02 PM MST), in a posting to the Nassau County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com, Magnus Olsson (greverod@home.se) asked, "Can anyone help me find relatives of Knut Freds children. They are third cousins to me, but 50-60 years older. Carl J.(Johan) Fred, born in 1922 acording to a note I found on Internet somewhere. In 1963 he lived in Hicksville, NY and I think he still do. He should be the oldest in the family but I'm not sure. Raymond Fred. Maybe born in 1932, unsure! Lived in Wantagh, NY in 1963. Jenny Augusta, born Fred. Unmarried in 1963, live in Roosevelt, NY by that time. Also, if possible, recors of their mother. Their father, Knut Fred, immigrated from Lyse in Sweden in the beginning of the 20th century." First, for Carl J.(Johan) Fred: for questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Hicksville Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Hicksville Public Library 169 Jerusalem Avenue Hicksville, NY 11801 Tel: 516/931-1417 Fax: 516/931-1417 eMail: hilmail@alis.nls.lib.ny.us http://www.nassaulibrary.org/hicksv/ The pertinent geography: Hicksville -- once the potato capital of LI -- is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the center-west part of the Town of Oyster Bay (along the Oyster Bay/North Hempstead/Hempstead town line), in the east-central part of Nassau County. There are 18 hamlets and 18 villages (municipal corporations) all or partly within the Town of Oyster Bay. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise, the Hamlet of Hicksville in the Town of Oyster Bay is bordered on the north by the Hamlets of Jericho and Syosset; on the east by the Hamlets of Plainview and Bethpage; on the south by the Hamlet of Levittown in the Town of Hempstead (the Oyster Bay/Hempstead town lone); and, on the west by the Hamlet of Salisbury in the Town of Hempstead and the Hamlet of New Cassel in the Town of North Hempstead (Oyster Bay/Hempstead/North Hempstead town line). And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Hamlet of Hicksville has a different border than does the "Hicksville, NY 11801" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Hicksville mailing address and not be in Hicksville and a place can be in Hicksville and have other than a Hicksville mailing address). .........................................acres ......Hamlet of Hicksville.......4,359 ......Hicksville, NY 11801.....4,233 Currently, there are places with a "Bethpage, NY 11714", "Jericho, NY 11753" and "Westbury, NY 11590" mailing address that are actually in the Hamlet of Hicksville. In the late 1940s, prior to the construction of Levittown (and the ensuing secession of the Hamlet of Levittown, mostly in the Town of Hempstead, but also partly in the Town of Oyster Bay) and the creation of the "Levittown, NY 11756" ZIP Code, that area was included in the "Hicksville, NY" postal zone. Second, for Raymond Fred: for questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Wantagh Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Wantagh Public Library 3285 Park Avenue Wantagh, NY 11793 Tel: 516/221-1200 Fax: 516/826-9357 eMail: wantaghpl@yahoo.com http://www.nassaulibrary.org/wantagh/ The pertinent geography: Wantagh is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the southeast section of the Town of Hempstead, in the southeastern part of Nassau County. There are 22 villages (municipal corporations) and 36 hamlets all or partly within the Town of Hempstead. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise, the Hamlet of Wantagh in the Town of Hempstead is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of North Wantagh; on the east by the Hamlet of Seaford; on the south by the Atlantic Ocean; and, on the west by the Hamlets of Bellmore and North Bellmore. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Hamlet of Wantagh has a different border than does the "Wantagh, NY 11793" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Wantagh mailing address and not be in Wantagh). ......................................acres ......Hamlet of Wantagh......2,534 ......Wantagh, NY 11793....3,782* * Area does not include off-shore islands. About 1 out of every 3 places with a "Wantagh, NY" mailing address are not in the Hamlet of Wantagh. (These places that have a "Wantagh, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Wantagh are in the Hamlets of Seaford, Bellmore, North Bellmore, North Wantagh and Levittown.) Third, for Jenny Augusta: for questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Roosevelt Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Roosevelt Public Library 27 West Fulton Avenue Roosevelt, NY 11575 Tel: 516/378-0222 Fax: 516/378-1011 eMail: rpl@rooseveltpubliclibrary.org http://www.nassaulibrary.org/roosevelt/ The pertinent geography: Roosevelt is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the central section of the Town of Hempstead. In the south-central part of Nassau County. There are 22 villages (municipal corporations) and 36 hamlets all or partly within the Town of Hempstead. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise, the Hamlet of Roosevelt in the Town of Hempstead is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Uniondale; on the east by the Hamlets of North Merrick and Merrick; on the south by the Village of Freeport; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Baldwin. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Hamlet of Roosevelt has a different border than does the "Roosevelt, NY 11575" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Roosevelt mailing address and not be in Roosevelt and a place can be in Roosevelt and have other than a Roosevelt mailing address). .........................................acres .....Hamlet of Roosevelt.......1,121 .....Roosevelt, NY 11575.....1,061 About 1 in 20 places that are actually in the Hamlet of Roosevelt have other than a "Roosevelt, NY" mailing address. Most of these places that are in the Hamlet of Roosevelt but do not have a "Roosevelt, NY" mailing address may have a "Freeport, NY 11520" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Hicksville in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County on pages 5 & 11 (map) and 12 (population estimate), the Hamlet of Wantagh in the Town of Hempstead, Nassau County on pages 5 & 8 (map) and 9 (population estimate) and the Hamlet of Roosevelt in the Town of Hempstead, Nassau County on pages 5 & 8 (map) and 9 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Happy Purim (begins Sunday, March 7 at sunset), Walter Greenspan Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

    03/06/2004 02:08:58
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] Obits for Johnson brothers 2003
    2. On 3/6/04 (11:32:02 AM MST), in a posting to the Nassau County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com, Karlynn J. Gustafson (oscls59@comcast.net) asked, "Could someone tell me how I might get copies of obituaries and/or death notices for: Harold J. Johnson, b. July 28, 1912, NY, d. May 17, 2003, Port Washington, Nassau County, NY; and his younger brother Everett Johnson, who died December, 2003, other details unknown, although I think he was probably in Port Washington also, or in the immediate area. These were first cousins of my 88 year-old father, and I'd like to be able to give him the details." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Port Washington Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Port Washington Public Library One Library Drive Port Washington, NY 11050 Tel: 516/883-4400 Fax: 516/944-6855 eMail: reference@pwpl.org http://www.pwpl.org/ Port Washington is one of those communities on Long Island where the majority of the places with a Port Washington mailing address are not in Port Washington. The pertinent geography: Previously known as Cow Bay (the NYS legislature officially changed the name to Port Washington in 1857), Port Washington is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the northeastern part of the Town of North Hempstead, in the northwestern part of Nassau County. There are 30 villages (municipal corporations) and 18 hamlets all or partly in the Town of North Hempstead. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Port Washington in the Town of North Hempstead is bordered on the north by the Villages of Baxter Estates, Port Washington North and Sands Point; on the east by the Port Washington Harbor on the south by the Village of Flower Hill; and, on the west by the Village of Plandome Manor and Hempstead Harbor. And, like almost every community in either Nassau or Suffolk Counties, the hamlet and the postal zone that use the same name, have much different borders: .....................................................acres .........Hamlet of Port Washington.....2,570 .........Port Washington, NY 11050....6,652 Thus, about 3 out of every 5 places with a "Port Washington, NY" mailing address are NOT in the Hamlet of Port Washington. Quickly eyeballing the map overlay of the "11050" postal ZIP code versus village and hamlet borders, the following 7 communities (5 villages and 2 hamlets) seem to be at least partially within the borders of the "Port Washington, NY" postal zone and hence places in these communities can have a "Port Washington, NY" mailing address (if the community is a village, its year of incorporation is shown inside the parenthesis): .........................................................acres Village of Sands Point (1932)..............2,743 Hamlet of Northern Port Washington........162 Village of Port Washington North (1932)...315 Village of Manorhaven (1930)...................326 Village of Baxter Estates (1931)..............109 Hamlet of Port Washington..................2,570 Village of Flower Hill (1931).....................427* * The Village of Flower Hill has a total area of 1,095 acres, and this is the area serviced by the "Port Washington, NY 11050" postal zone. The Village of Flower Hill's other 668 acres are in the service areas of either the "Manhasset, NY 11030" or the "Roslyn, NY 11576" postal zones. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Port Washington in the Town of North Hempstead, Nassau County on pages 5 & 6 (map) and 7 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Happy Purim (begins Sunday, March 7 at sunset), Walter Greenspan . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

    03/06/2004 02:06:23
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] Hulse
    2. Am interested in Hulse Am descended from Richard 1640 his Son Richard 1669 and Mary abt 1696 who married John Aber 1717 Brookhaven. Anyone else researching Hulse. Steve.

    03/05/2004 09:01:57
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] doxie lane
    2. On 3/4/04 (7:12:24 PM MST), in a posting to the Suffolk County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Paula Wallace (paula_ann_mac@yahoo.com) asked, "I am looking for info on Doxie Lane who married Mary Mathews and had several children, one of which was Maryann born abt. 1800 and she married Benjamin Laws Raynor in St. George's Manor around 1816." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Mastics-Moriches-Shirley Community Library (this is the library that has a contract to serve residents of the South Manor School District and the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Mastics-Moriches-Shirley Community Library 407 William Floyd Pkwy Shirley, NY 11967 Tel: 631/399-1511 Fax: 631/???-???? eMail: wcicola@suffolk.lib.ny.us http://www.communitylibrary.org/ The pertinent geography: Manorville is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the northeast section of the Town of Brookhaven, in the middle of Suffolk County, along the Brookhaven/Riverhead town line. There are 8 villages (municipal corporations) and 36 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Brookhaven. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Manorville in the Town of Brookhaven is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Calverton in the Town of Riverhead (the Brookhaven/Riverhead town line); on the east by the Hamlets of Calverton and Eastport; on the south by the Hamlets of East Moriches, Center Moriches, Moriches and Mastic; and, on the west by the Hamlets of Mastic, Shirley and Yaphank (Brookhaven National Laboratory). And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Hamlet of Manorville has a different border than does the "Manorville, NY 11949" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Manorville mailing address and not be in Manorville and a place can have other than a Manorville mailing address and be in Manorville). Those places that have a "Manorville, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Manorville are in the Hamlet of Calverton, Town of Riverhead; and, at the same time, there are places in the Hamlet of Manorville with an "East Moriches, NY 11940" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier editions of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Manorville in the Town of Brookhaven, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 24 (map) and 25 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Happy Purim (begins Sunday, March 7 at sunset), Regards, Walter Greenspan . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

    03/04/2004 06:28:20
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] Boat yard: the MONITOR
    2. On 3/4/04 (5:44:46 PM MST), in a posting to NY-LONGISLAND-L@rootsweb.com, Jan (jgrellim@sbcglobal.net) asked, "Would employee records exist for the company that built 'The Monitor' in 1862? It was the Continental Iron Works in Greenpoint, Brooklyn. My great grandfather was a shipwright and worked on The Monitor. Illustrations show it sliding down the ways in Greenpoint, Brooklyn where he [Amos Silkworth] was an employee. I have a receipt signed by him for labor/materials billed to the Schooner "Eagle", though there is no heading on the receipt. If records are available where would they be? NY State, Brooklyn or Maritime archives?" Information on the 2 best sources on Maps of Brooklyn and the other cities and towns of Kings County follow my name. I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Happy Purim (begins Sunday, March 7 at sunset), Walter Greenspan MAPS AND OTHER INFORMATION ON BROOKLYN & THE OTHER CITIES & TOWNS OF KINGS COUNTY The best source for information would be: BROOKLYN HISTORICAL SOCIETY 128 Pierrepont Street New York (Brooklyn P.O.), NY 11201 tel: 718/222-4111 fax: 718/222-3794 eMail: ?????? http://www.brooklynhistory.org The BROOKLYN HISTORICAL SOCIETY has been collecting materials since 1863. The bulk of their map collection is pre-1930. They own over 3,000 maps and atlases. Part of their ward map and atlas collection is on microfilm. They also have made negatives of some of their maps. The SOCIETY owns a large collection of City Directories and cemetery guides. These materials are available in print and microfilm form. They also own print and microfilm copies of William A. Eardley's Index to the wills of New York State. This list is inclusive to 1930. The Society is in the process of expanding its web page. Besides links to other institutions, it will post reference lists and selections from its collections. The BROOKLYN HISTORICAL SOCIETY had been previously known as the LONG ISLAND HISTORICAL SOCIETY The next best source would be: THE BROOKLYN COLLECTION BROOKLYN PUBLIC LIBRARY Grand Army Plaza New York (Brooklyn P.O.), NY 11238 tel: 718/230-2762 fax: 718/857-2245 eMail: none http://www.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/general/collection.htm The "morgue" -- the newspaper clipping files of the Brooklyn Daily Eagle -- is housed in the library in 152 filing cabinets, and provides the single most important information source on Brooklyn's history in the twentieth century. A complete run of the Brooklyn Daily Eagle (1841-1955) on microfilm is available to the public in the Periodicals Room. The photograph collection comprises over 35,000 photographs of the borough from the late nineteenth century to the present, and the unique Archive and Biography files from the 1970s to the present. Books, maps, and other items cover every subject imaginable. The BROOKLYN COLLECTION hours of operation are: Sun:.................closed Mon:.................closed Tues:...........2:00 pm to 7:30 pm Wed:...........2:00 pm to 5:30 pm Thu:.............2:00 pm to 7:30 pm Fri:.............10:00 am to 1:00 pm Sat:.............1:00 pm to 5:30 pm Here's the general contact info on the main BROOKLYN PUBLIC LIBRARY itself: BROOKLYN PUBLIC LIBRARY Grand Army Plaza New York (Brooklyn P.O.), NY 11238 tel: 718/230-2100, then choice "5" for telephone reference questions eMail reference service: http://www.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/eresources/Inquiry.htm http://www.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/

    03/04/2004 06:14:30
    1. [NY-LONGISLAND] Boat yard: the MONITOR
    2. Jan Miller
    3. Would employee records exist for the company that built 'The Monitor' in 1862? It was the Continental Iron Works in Greenpoint, Brooklyn. My great grandfather was a shipwright and worked on The Monitor. Illustrations show it sliding down the ways in Greenpoint, Brooklyn where he [Amos Silkworth] was an employee. I have a receipt signed by him for labor/materials billed to the Schooner "Eagle", though there is no heading on the receipt. If records are available where would they be? NY State, Brooklyn or Maritime archives? Thanks in advance--Jan

    03/04/2004 09:44:17