Hi Linda, Thanks for contacting me. There are no Watts in the index of "Torrey's" nor "Refugees." In the "Refugees of 1776 from Long Island to Connecticut", Samuel Cox is listed as a signer in Brookhaven-June, July, August, 1775. (I believe these were signers who professed allegiance to the local government, instead of England.) The list was sent to Col. Nathaniel Woodhull, Aug. 17, 1775; signed by Richard Woodhull and Samuel Thompson, Committeemen. Additionally, there is a picture on p. 277, which has this information under it. Nathaniel Brewster-"The Planting Ground"-Setauket, L.I. (Loaned by Mr. W.T.Cox) Hope this is of some help. Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 4/6/2004 10:01:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Grstmll writes: Hi, Saw your response on the LI list and was wondering, if time permits, could you please check for the name Watts? Also, I would appreciate the information on the Cox family that you found. Thanks for any information, Linda

Hi Pat and Researchers, Sorry, I do not find Sayre or Atkins in the "Torrey's" book. It looks like there is all you could want in the "Refugees" book, however. Can you be more specific about the information that you are looking for and I will try to get some for you? I do see a Francis Sayre. Let me know if you need that information. In answer to a question which was asked by someone else, the Torrey's book is 70 pages long (small pages) counting index. Happy Hunting, Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 4/4/2004 6:00:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rmspas@epix.net writes: This is a long shot BUT do you find a Thomas Sayre [1597-1669] listed in your book. I do not have a name for his wife. His parents were Francis Sayre & Elizabeth Atkins who were married 1591. Thanks so much for the offer, Pat Smith in PA researching - Richard "Bull" Smith lineage; Ananias Conklin; Capt Leon Gardiner; etc.

Hi Karen, and Researchers, Thanks for contacting me. In "Torrey's", I find Elizabeth Scott (bp 18 Nov. 1623-1678+) married John Spofford 1646 Ipswich (No Wick) In the "Refugees" index, I find many Wicks and Wickes. Can you be more specific as to names? I will try to get what info I can about them. The "Refugees" also shows about 10 Scotts, including the Biography of "Scott Family." In a message dated 4/4/2004 5:26:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, kwinfield@worldnet.att.net writes: Hi Joyce -- You're nice to offer to do look-ups. I'm not sure how big this book is that you have, and I don't want to burden you. Could you check for anyone with the last name of Scott or Wick? Those are two of the names I'm searching right now. I'll take any names you come up with, because I'm not sure of the families in that time period yet. Thanks so much! Karen Winfield Mesa, Arizona

Hi Terri, Sorry, no Cox of either spelling in the Torrey's Marriage book. In the "Refugees" Book that I also have, I find Samuel and a W. T. Cox listed in the Index. If you would like that information, let me know. I will have the books until Tuesday, May 13. Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 4/4/2004 7:24:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, taire@webtv.net writes: Hi Joyce - First let me Thank You for your generous offer. At your convenience, will you please check for the name Cox - maybe Cock. Thank you again - Terri

Hi, Thanks for contacting me. There are no Kirbys listed in the Torrey's Marriages by Melinda Lutz Sanborn. I also have the "Refugees of 1770 From Long Island to Connecticut" books out until Tuesday, May 13, as well. The "Refugees" lists Benjamin, Caleeb and Daniel Kirby in the Index. If you would like to have the information, let me know. Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 4/6/2004 7:42:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time, kirbz@northstate.net writes: hi, Joyce I'm really shooting in the dark here, but wondered if many KIRBYs are listed in your book of marriages before 1700? I'm in stage 2 of research by process of elimination, not the best approach, I realize... :) thanks; I'll follow any/all new paths... kirby in NC kirbz@northstate.net

On 4/6/04 (6:37:15 AM MST), in a posting to NYBROOKLYN-L@rootsweb.com, ????? (phillip-eileenthompson@msn.com) asked, "Looking for children of Lena and John F. MCGRATH from Rockville Centre, LI John F. emigrated from Clifden, County Galway in the 1920s and sponsored my father to emigrate in 1929." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Rockville Centre Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Rockville Centre Public Library 221 North Village Avenue Rockville Centre, NY 11570 Tel: 516/766-6257 Fax: 516/???-???? eMail: rvc@nassaulibrary.org http://www.nassaulibrary.org/rvc/ The pertinent geography: Rockville Centre is a village (incorporated in 1893) in the center of the Town of Hempstead, in the southwest part of Nassau County. There are 22 villages and 36 hamlets (unincorporated areas) all or partly within the Town of Hempstead. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise, the Village of Rockville Centre in the Town of Hempstead is bordered on the north by the Hamlets of Lakeview and South Hempstead; on the east by the Hamlets of South Hempstead and Baldwin; on the south by the Hamlet of Oceanside; and, on the west by the Villages of East Rockaway and Lynbrook and the Hamlet of Lakeview. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Village of Rockville Centre has a different border than does the "Rockville Centre, NY 11570" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Rockville Centre mailing address and not be in Rockville Centre). ................................................acres ...Village of Rockville Centre........2,196 ...Rockville Centre, NY 11570......2,529 Thus, about one of every 7 places that have a Rockville Centre mailing address are not in the Village of Rockville Centre. (Most of these places that have a Rockville Centre mailing address but are not in the Village of Rockville Centre are in the Village of Lynbrook.) For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Village of Rockville Centre (incorporated in 1893) in the Town of Hempstead, Nassau County on pages 5 & 8 (map) and 9 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Wishing all a ziessen Pesach (sweet Passover)*, Walter Greenspan * The 8-day Festival of Passover begins on the 15th day of the month of Nissan (that's the Babylonian 'Nissan', not the Japanese 'Nissan'), which occurs at sunset on Monday, April 5 on the civil calendar. . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This is a long shot BUT do you find a Thomas Sayre [1597-1669] listed in your book. I do not have a name for his wife. His parents were Francis Sayre & Elizabeth Atkins who were married 1591. Thanks so much for the offer, Pat Smith in PA researching - Richard "Bull" Smith lineage; Ananias Conklin; Capt Leon Gardiner; etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JArmscoop@aol.com> To: <NY-LONGISLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [NY-LONGISLAND] "Second Supplement To Torrey's N.E. Marriages bef. 1700" > Hi Mary, and Listmembers, > > Yes, I do have access to the Torrey's Marriage book until next Tuesday, April > 13. It belongs to the genealogical society that I belong to. > Unfortunately,Mary, I do not see your Allison/Ellison people listed. I am willing to do other > lookups as needed. I did not notice other Suffolk people in the book, though > there are some in CT, and other New England areas, including some Edwards which > I can not place at the moment. > > Joyce in CA > http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop > > > > > In a message dated 4/4/2004 3:01:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, yonan@fgi.net > writes: > Hi Joyce, > > Do you have current access to the "Second Supplement to Torrey's New > England Marriages Before 1700" by Melinda Lutz Sanborn? My Allison, > Allason, Alabon, Ellison (and other variant spellings) ancestors were in > Southold on Long Island in the late 1600s. I'm curious about whether there > are any marriages included in the book for the Allison (and variants) > surname. Thanks much. > > Mary Allison Yonan > yonan@fgi.net > > > ==== NY-LONGISLAND Mailing List ==== > Karima, List Administrator mailto:NY-LONGISLAND-admin@rootsweb.com > List Guidelines: http://home.insightbb.com/~karima/LongIslandWelcome.html >

Hi Mary, and Listmembers, Yes, I do have access to the Torrey's Marriage book until next Tuesday, April 13. It belongs to the genealogical society that I belong to. Unfortunately,Mary, I do not see your Allison/Ellison people listed. I am willing to do other lookups as needed. I did not notice other Suffolk people in the book, though there are some in CT, and other New England areas, including some Edwards which I can not place at the moment. Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 4/4/2004 3:01:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, yonan@fgi.net writes: Hi Joyce, Do you have current access to the "Second Supplement to Torrey's New England Marriages Before 1700" by Melinda Lutz Sanborn? My Allison, Allason, Alabon, Ellison (and other variant spellings) ancestors were in Southold on Long Island in the late 1600s. I'm curious about whether there are any marriages included in the book for the Allison (and variants) surname. Thanks much. Mary Allison Yonan yonan@fgi.net

Hello Researchers, Thought that I would share some information that I found in "Second Supplement to Torrey's New England Marriages Before 1700" by Melinda Lutz Sanborn. Hope this is a help to someone. Joseph Conklin (c. 1670-1716) and Mary Edwards (c. 1674-1752) m. by 1697 Southold, L.I. Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop

FLATLANDS Death Index is now complete up #600 http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Death/Flatlands/index.html Certificates #1 thru #600 For the years: 5 September 1880 thru 12 November 1888. These are copied from the ledgers. (#601 thru #1179 are being completed) This includes: Canarsie Flatlands Jamaica Bay Barren Island Under Residence is often listed: District #1 and District #2. These are usually burials BUT it is NOT always stated. As to where These Burials plots were, I'm not sure. If you know where this Cemetery was located Please let us know. Nancy

With the expressed permission of the author, I'm cross-posting the following: On 4/2/04 (9:28:54 AM MST), in a posting to NYC-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com, Marge Spears-Soloff (MSpearssol@aol.com) wrote, Begin cross-posting: The following Pages have been updated on the HNOH -Jewish Orphanages in the United States web site at http://www.hnoh.com US Jewish Orphanage Page: Daughters of Hannah, Baltimore, MD, correction of URLs Marks Nathan Orphanage, Chicago IL, new information on orphanage location with new photographs of building Chicago Home for Jewish Orphans, Chicago, IL, new building photograph Alumni Reunions Page: Nine (9) new searches have been added and web sites added for St. Agnes Orphanage, Nanuet, NY Please check to see if someone is looking for you or someone you might know JCCA Page....new information added for Wise Services HNOH Memorial Page....New Information added on photograph dates Marge Spears-Soloff Orlando, FL HNOHalumni@aol.com HNOH Welcome - Jewish Orphanages in the United States http://www.hnoh.com End: cross-posting I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Wishing all a ziessen Pesach (sweet Passover)*, Walter Greenspan * The 8-day Festival of Passover begins on the 15th day of the month of Nissan (that's the Babylonian 'Nissan', not the Japanese 'Nissan'), which occurs at sunset on Monday, April 5 on the civil calendar.

On 4/1/04 (2:47:25 PM MST), in a posting to the Nassau County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com, Madeline Bovery Galbraith (madgalb@yahoo.com) asked, "Looking for any information on John Elder, *1887, +1975 whose last residence was zip 115l8/East Rockaway. Possible wife: Eleanor Elder, +1974 same zip. Also, his brother, Wolfgang Elder, *1903, + 1981, whose last residence was zip 11003/Elmont. There was another brother, Joseph Elder, *1895, +unk, who was physically disabled." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the East Rockaway Public Library and the Elmont Public Library (the respective libraries can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): East Rockaway Public Library 477 Atlantic Avenue East Rockaway, NY 11518 Tel: 516/599-1664 Fax: 516/596-0154 eMail: eastrockpl@yahoo.com http://www.nassaulibrary.org/eastrock/ Elmont Public Library 1735 Hempstead Turnpike Elmont, NY 11003-1896 Tel: 516/354-5280 Fax: 516/354-3276 eMail: jschoen@epl.lib.ny.us The pertinent geography for East Rockaway: The Village of East Rockaway (incorporated in 1910) is in the southern part of the Town of Hempstead, in the southwest part of Nassau County. There are 36 hamlets (unincorporated areas) and 22 villages all or partly within the Town of Hempstead. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Village of East Rockaway in the Town of Hempstead is bordered on the north by the Village of Lynbrook; on the east by the Village of Rockville Centre and the Hamlet of Oceanside; on the south by the Hamlet of Bay Park and the Village of Hewlett Harbor; and, on the west by the Village of Hewlett Harbor and the Hamlet of Hewlett. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Village of East Rockaway has a different border than does the "East Rockaway, NY 11518" postal zone (i.e., a place can have an East Rockaway mailing address and not be in East Rockaway). ..................................................acres .....Village of East Rockaway..........667 .....East Rockaway, NY 11518........752 There are places in East Rockaway with other than an "East Rockaway, NY" mailing address and places with an "East Rockaway" mailing address that are not in East Rockaway. The pertinent geography for Elmont: Once called Foster's Meadow, Elmont is Belmont (Belmont Race Track) without the "B". Elmont is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the northwest part of the Town of Hempstead, in the west part of Nassau County, along the Nassau/Queens County line. There are 36 hamlets and 22 villages (incorporated municipalities) all or partly within the Town of Hempstead. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise, the Hamlet of Elmont in the Town of Hempstead is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Bellerose Terrace, the Village of Floral Park, the Village of South Floral Park and the Village of Stewart Manor; on the east by the Hamlet of Franklin Square; on the south by the Hamlet of North Valley Stream; and, on the west by New York City (the Nassau/Queens County line). And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Hamlet of Elmont has a different border than does the "Elmont, NY 11003" postal zone (i.e., a place can have an Elmont mailing address and not be in Elmont and a place can be in Elmont and have other than an Elmont mailing address). ........................................acres ......Hamlet of Elmont.........2,357 ......Elmont, NY 11003........2,791 Thus, a bit more than about 1 in 7 places that have an Elmont mailing address are not in the Hamlet of Elmont (these places are in the Hamlet of Franklin Square). At the same time, there are places in Elmont with other than an Elmont, NY mailing address (these places have a Valley Stream, NY mailing address). For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Suffolk County Cooperative Library web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Village of East Rockaway (incorporated in 1910) and the Hamlet of Elmont in the Town of Hempstead, Nassau County on pages 5 & 8 (map) and 9 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Wishing all a ziessen Pesach (sweet Passover)*, Walter Greenspan * The 8-day Festival of Passover begins on the 15th day of the month of Nissan (that's the Babylonian 'Nissan', not the Japanese 'Nissan'), which occurs at sunset on Monday, April 5 on the civil calendar. . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

This message is being reposted with the permission of the original poster, Tony Sasso. I am also a member of the Italian Genealogy Group, and they are deserving of the support of the genealogical community as a whole for all the free databases they are putting online for all of us to use, whether we are members of their organization or not. Enjoy!! Jim Garrity *********************************************************** This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RUB.2ACI/3742 Message Board Post: To All: The Italian Genealogy Group has finally put the NYC Death index on line. It covers 1891-1899 in Manhattan and 1900-1911 for All-Boros. I don't know how far along it is, the page is still listed as under construction but take a look and see what you think. This group does a lot of work for the genealogical community and your membership would be appreciated but it is not necessary to join the group to use their databases. You can find the site at http://www.italiangen.org Membership is $20 per year and if I must say so myself, I'm the editor, the newsletter alone is worth the price of admission. Consider it and enjoy the databases. Tony -- James Garrity NYC Genealogy Research Service, Cemetery Research & Photography http://www.NYCgen.com http://www.JimGarrity.com E-Mail: JimGarrity@Earthlink.net eFax: (718)504-6214 Member, Association of Professional Genealogists Member, Godfrey Memorial Library, http://www.godfrey.org

On 3/30/04 (5:16:04 AM MST), in a posting to NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com, Floreda (tallygators@earthlink.net) asked, "1930 CENSUS, Kensington Village, Nassau Co has this STILLMAN family: John 47, born Hungary, merchant dept store; Mae 40 wife born MA, Robert 20 son born PA, no occupation, Jack 17 born MI son, stage actor, Millard 16 b MI son, Marilyn 10 dtr. I am on a 'fishing expedition' - I believe Robert 20 may be the Robert who was California in the movie industry in the 40's and 50's. The sketchy information I have includes the fact that his father (who made his money in the clothing industry in NY) bankrolled his son in the early years. Any information on this family will be appreciated. Robert the son married Ruth CLARK MARKHAM and they had two children." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Great Neck Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Great Neck Library 159 Bayview Avenue Great Neck, NY 11023 tel: 516/466-8055 fax: 516/???-???? eMail: gneck@nassaulibrary.org http://www.nassaulibrary.org/gneck/ Kensington is one of those many communities on Long Island where none of the places in Kensington have a "Kensington, NY" mailing address. The pertinent geography: Kensington is a village (incorporated in 1921) in the northwest part of the Town of North Hempstead, in the northwest part of Nassau County. There are 30 villages and 18 hamlets (unincorporated areas) all or partly in the Town of North Hempstead. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Village of Kensington in the Town of North Hempstead is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Great Neck Gardens; on the east by the Hamlet of Manhasset; on the south by the Village of Thomaston and the Village of Great Neck Plaza; and, on the west by the Village of Great Neck Estates. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Village of Kensington has a different border than does the postal zone that services its area. In this case, there is no "Kensington, NY" postal zone. .................................................acres .....Village of Kensington...............156 .....Kensington, NY ?????............none All places within the Village of Kensington are in either the "Great Neck, NY 11021" or the "Manhasset, NY 11030" postal zone. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Village of Kensington (incorporated in 1921) in the Town of North Hempstead, Nassau County on pages 5 & 6 (map) and 7 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

On 3/30/04 (8:34:29 AM MST), in a posting to NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com, Jim Davis (crashdavis@nc.rr.com) asked, "Are there City/Town Directories for: * Valley Stream from 1930-1945? * Malverne from 1930-1940?" For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Henry Waldinger Memorial Library for Valley Stream and the Malverne Public Library for Malverne information (the libraries can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Henry Waldinger Memorial Library 60 Verona Place Valley Stream, NY 11582 Tel: 516/825-6422 Fax: 516/???-???? eMail: hwmlcontact@hotmail.com http://www.nassaulibrary.org/valleyst/ Malverne Public Library 61 Saint Thomas Place Malverne, NY 11565 Tel: 516/599-0750 Fax: 516/599-3320 eMail: Malverne@nassaulibrary.org http://www.nassaulibrary.org/malverne/ The pertinent geography for the Village of Valley Stream: Valley Stream is one of those many communities on Long Island where many places with a "Valley Stream, NY" mailing address are NOT in Valley Stream. Valley Stream is a village (incorporated in 1925) in the western part of the Town of Hempstead, in the southwest part of Nassau County, along the Nassau County/New York City (County/Borough of Queens) line. There are 22 villages and 36 hamlets (unincorporated areas) all or partly within the Town of Hempstead. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise, the Village of Valley Stream in the Town of Hempstead is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of North Valley Stream; on the east by the Villages of Malverne and Lynbrook and the Hamlet of Hewlett; on the south by the Hamlets of Hewlett, Woodmere and South Valley Stream; and, on the west by the Hamlet of South Valley Stream and New York City (County/Borough of Queens). And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Village of Valley Stream has a different border than does the "Valley Stream, NY" postal zone. ......................................................acres .....Village of Valley Stream ..............2,258 .....Hamlet of North Valley Stream .....1,209 .....Hamlet of South Valley Stream .......566 .....Valley Stream, NY 11580 ............2,496 .....Valley Stream, NY 11581 ............1,813 ...................total .............................4,309 As indicated by the acreage numbers, the Village of Valley Stream is only about 52% of the "Valley Stream, NY" postal zone. Hence, there is about an equal chance that a place with a "Valley Stream, NY" mailing address is NOT in the Village of Valley Stream. The pertinent geography for the Village of Malverne: Malverne is a village (incorporated in 1921) in the west-central part of the Town of Hempstead, in the southwest part of Nassau County. There are 22 villages and 36 hamlets (unincorporated areas) all or partly within the Town of Hempstead. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise, the Village of Malverne in the Town of Hempstead is bordered on the north by the Hamlets of Franklin Square and Malverne-Oaks; on the east by the Hamlet of Lakeview; on the south by the Village of Lynbrook and the Hamlet of North Lynbrook; and, on the west by the Village of Valley Stream and the Hamlet of North Valley Stream. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Village of Malverne has a different border than does the "Malverne, NY 11565" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Malverne mailing address and not be in Malverne). .....................................acres ...Village of Malverne..........665 ...Malverne, NY 11565........689 Thus, about one of every 20 places that have a Malverne mailing address are not in the Village of Malverne. (Most of these places that have a Malverne mailing address but are not in the Village of Malverne are in the Hamlet of Malverne-Oaks.) For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Village of Valley Stream (incorporated in 1925) and the Village of Malverne (incorporated in 1921) in the Town of Hempstead, Nassau County on pages 5 & 8 (map) and 9 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

On 3/29/04 (5:38:21 PM MST), in a posting to the Suffolk County Ancestry Board that was 'gatewayed' to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Jon Raymond (jraymond651@aol.com) asked, "Is there someone in the Oakdale area that can help? I'm trying to find obituaries for Lauren Austin Raymond (born 31 August 1917 in North Dakota, died May 1996...last residence is Oakdale) and Mary (nee Burke) Raymond (born 31 August 1917, died May 1996...last residence is Oakdale). Unfortunately, I do not have exact dates of death." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Connetquot Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Connetquot Public Library 760 Ocean Avenue Bohemia, NY 11716 Tel: 631/567-5079 Fax: 631/???-???? eMail: http://www.connetquot.lib.ny.us/question.html http://www.connetquot.lib.ny.us/ The pertinent geography: Oakdale is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the southeast part of the Town of Islip, in the southwest part Suffolk County. There are 4 villages (municipal corporations) and 23 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Islip. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Oakdale in the Town of Islip is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Bohemia; on the east by the Hamlet of West Sayville; on the south by the Great South Bay; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Great River. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Hamlet of Oakdale has a different border than does the " Oakdale, NY 11769" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Oakdale mailing address and not be in Oakdale). Those places that have a " Oakdale, NY" mailing address that are not in the Hamlet of Oakdale are in the Hamlet of West Sayville. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Oakdale in the Town of Islip on pages 14 & 20 (map) and 21 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

On 3/28/04 (2:07:56 PM MST), in a posting to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Jane Freese, Catskill, NY (kiskatom@mhonline.net) asks, "Trying to locate my husband's Navy Buddy from late 1950's - early 1960's. Last known to have lived in Medford." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Patchogue-Medford Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Patchogue-Medford Library 54-60 East Main Street Patchogue, NY 11772 Tel: 631/654-4700 Fax: 631/289-3999 eMail: pmlref@suffolk.lib.ny.us http://pml.suffolk.lib.ny.us/ Medford is a hamlet (unincorporated community) in the central-south part of the Town of Brookhaven, in the middle of Suffolk County. There are 8 villages and 36 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Brookhaven. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Medford in the Town of Brookhaven is bordered on the north by the Hamlets of Coram and Gordon Heights; on the east by the Hamlets of Yaphank and North Bellport; on the south by the Hamlet of East Patchogue; and, on the west by the Hamlets of Holtsville and Farmingville. And, like almost every community in either Nassau or Suffolk Counties, the hamlet and the postal zone that use the same name, have different borders. Thus, places with a "Medford, NY" mailing address may not be in Medford and places in Medford may not have a "Medford, NY" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Medford in the Town of Brookhaven, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 24 (map) and 25 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

Ok, I found the obit, but not an article yet, still looking: LYNCH-Brandon, age 34, of Manhattan on March 21, 2004. Loving son of James Lynch and Janine Brown. Dear brother of Thomas (Janis). Adored uncle of Brandon, loving stepson of Ellen. Also survived by many aunts and uncles, cousins and friends. Reposing at Austin F Knowles, Inc. Funeral Home, 128 Main Street, Port Washington, Wednesday 2-4 and 7-9pm, Mass of Christian Burial, Thursday 9:30am St Peter of Alcantara RC Chruch. Interment Nassau Knolls Cemetery. Donations to the Brandon Lynch Scholarship Fund, c/o Jump, 625 Broadway, NY NY 10012 would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for your loss, hope this helps. Tom

I have Newsday, and have kept the obituaries from 1999 on, I also have some in a database, some as far back as 1955. Let me look, and I will get back to you. Tom

For phone books, maps, and other resources you probably want to make an extended visit to the Queensborough Public Library in Jamaica. Upstairs is the Long Island Room and it houses a wealth of treasures. For newspapers you probably want Hofstra's Long Island Studies Institute in Hempstead. Largest collection of LI papers that I know of. Great photo collection as well. Good luck and best regards. Nancy. NLColeman@worldnet.att.net Professional NYC & LI Research Services www.GenealogyPro.com/ncoleman.html