On 4/12/04 (7:49:56 AM MST), as part of a posting to NY-LONGISLAND-L@rootsweb.com, Annie Nolan (annie.nolan1@btopenworld.com) asked, "Anne, married a Connors,and had four children,Mollie,Lizzie,Peter,and Annie. Frank Clarke,(son of John,from Stonepark.) had a large family.Some of his children lived in Glen Head, Long Island ... " Unfortunately, Glen Head is unserviced by a library. Glen Head is one of those communities on Long Island where the majority of the places with a Glen Head mailing address are not in Glen Head. The pertinent geography: Glen Head is a hamlet (an unincorporated area) in the northwest part of the Town of Oyster Bay, in the north-central part of Nassau County. There are 18 hamlets and 18 villages all or partly within the Town of Oyster Bay. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on its northern border and proceeding clockwise: The Hamlet of Glen Head in the Town of Oyster Bay is bordered on the north by the City of Glen Cove; on the east by the Village of Matinecock; on the south by the Village of Old Brookville and the Hamlet of Glenwood Landing; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Glenwood Landing and the Village of Sea Cliff. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Hamlet of Glen Head has a different border than does the "Glen Head, NY 11545" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Glen Head mailing address and not be in Glen Head). .............................................acres .....Hamlet of Glen Head..........1,068 .....Glen Head, NY 11545........8,366 Thus, more than 7 out of every 8 places with a "Glen Head, NY" mailing address are NOT in the Hamlet of Glen Head. Quickly eyeballing the map overlay of the "11545" postal ZIP codes versus village and hamlet borders, the following 7 communities (5 villages and 2 hamlets) seem to be at least partially within the borders of the "Glen Head, NY" postal zone and hence places in these communities can have a "Glen Head, NY" mailing address: Village of Matinecock, Village of Old Brookville, Village of Brookville, Village of Upper Brookville, the Hamlet of East Norwich, the Village of Muttontown and the Hamlet of Glenwood Landing. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier edition of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Glen Head in the Town of Oyster Bay, Nassau County on pages 5 & 11 (map) and 12 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Wishing all a ziessen Pesach (sweet Passover)*, Walter Greenspan * The 8-day Festival of Passover begins on the 15th day of the month of Nissan (that's the Babylonian 'Nissan', not the Japanese 'Nissan'), which occurs at sunset on Monday, April 5 on the civil calendar. . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

On 4/11/04 (11:05:26 AM MST), in a posting to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Claudia Carson (RebeIWithoutAQIu@aol.com) asked, "Does anyone have one and could help me out?" Have you tried to contact the Cemetery directly? Long Island National Cemetery 2040 Wellwood Avenue East Farmingdale (Farmingdale P.O.), NY 11735 tel: 631/454-4949 fax: 631/694-5422 eMail: abianco@cem.va.gov (This eMail may no longer be current. If you obtain a more current eMail, please forward same to me.) http://www.cem.va.gov/nchp/longisland.htm I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Wishing all a ziessen Pesach (sweet Passover)*, Walter Greenspan * The 8-day Festival of Passover begins on the 15th day of the month of Nissan (that's the Babylonian 'Nissan', not the Japanese 'Nissan'), which occurs at sunset on Monday, April 5 on the civil calendar.

In a message dated 4/11/2004 10:06:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, jgrellim@sbcglobal.net writes: Testing. Organizing my address list for overlap. Jan Got it. Dot

Testing. Organizing my address list for overlap. Jan

On 4/10/04 (9:20:04 AM MST), in a posting to NYNASSAU-L@rootsweb.com, Annie Nolan (annie.nolan1@btopenworld.com) asked, "John Clarke lived in Stonepark, Derrylin,Co Fermanagh,in the mid 1800s. He had ten children.Their names were Mary,Patrick,James,Eliza,Ann, Francis,Luke, Ellen, John,and Catherine. Patrick,Ann,and Francis, went to Brooklyn,New York,about 1866. Mary,married Patrick Murphy,in Derrylin. Are there any descendants of these Clarkes,in Long Island,especially Williston Park." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Williston Park Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Williston Park Public Library 494 Willis Avenue Williston Park, NY 11596 Tel: 516/742-1820 Fax: 516/294-5004 eMail: ????? http://www.nassaulibrary.org/williston/ Williston Park is one of those communities on Long Island where many of the places with a Williston Park mailing address are not in Williston Park. The pertinent geography: Williston Park is a village (incorporated in 1926) in the center-south part of the Town of North Hempstead, in the west part of Nassau County. There are 30 villages and 18 hamlets (unincorporated areas) all or partly in the Town of North Hempstead. There are 2 cities and 3 towns in Nassau County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Village of Williston Park in the Town of North Hempstead is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of Albertson; on the east by the Village of East Williston; on the south by the Village of Mineola; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Herricks. And, as occurs in all but one of Nassau County's 136 communities (2 cities, 64 villages and 70 hamlets), the Village of Williston Park has a different border than does the "Williston Park, NY 11596" postal zone (i.e., a place can have a Williston Park mailing address and not be in Williston Park). ........................................................area .....Village of Williston Park.................390 .....Williston Park, NY 11596...............933 Thus, about 3 out of every 5 places that have a "Williston Park, NY" mailing address are not in the Village of Williston Park. Those place that have a "Williston Park, NY" mailing address that are not in the Village of Williston Park are in the Village of East Williston, the Hamlet of Roslyn Heights and the Village of Mineola. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier editions of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Village of Williston Park (incorporated in 1926) in the Town of North Hempstead, Nassau County on pages 5 & 6 (map) and 7 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Regards, Walter Greenspan . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

I saved this message because I want to know where you can get these indexes, and if needed, films of these censuses. In general, the New York State censuses are not indexed. These were taken in 1825, 1835, 1845, 1855, 1865, 1875, 1892, 1905, 1915 and 1925 but not all are available for every county. There are also some scattered land holders censuses for 1776, 1783, 1786 and 1814. Thanks in advance, Jan

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [NYKings] We Need Your Help! Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:07:40 -0600 Resent-From: NYKINGS-L@rootsweb.com Date: 10 Apr 2004 18:01:06 -0600 From: Pignola@aol.com To: NYKINGS-L@rootsweb.com This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/RUB.2ACI/3754 Message Board Post: Below is an email I received from my good friend John Martino. John spearheads all the volunteer projects going on in NY for the advancement of Genealogy research. He has already made some great achievements. To all volunteers Look what we did! We put 1,400,000 death records on the Internet. The years that this latest searchable database cover the years 1891 to 1911. These are the difficult years to do look-ups. The microfilm has to be viewed by each month and each county. Now you can put a name in and the computer will search the entire database. New Project We are presently working on a similar project that has caused us all great difficulty. It is the New York City Bride's Index. This index is alphabetical by the first two letters of the bride's family name. Most of us give up after a few minutes with this microfilm. The New York City Municipal Archives has allowed us to have the original index cards to use for typing. We have the records for Brooklyn, Queens and the Bronx. from 1871 to 1937. We will get Manhattan and Richmond after we have completed these counties. We need volunteers to help complet this most important project. If you can help us, we will make arrangements to get the cards to you to do this work at home. Contact: John Martino 631 368-8174 or JohnM16881@aol.com ==== NYKINGS Mailing List ==== Kings County (Brooklyn), New York - NYGenWeb http://community.webtv.net/shamrockroots/kingsny ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 -- James Garrity NYC Genealogy Research Service, Cemetery Research & Photography http://www.NYCgen.com http://www.JimGarrity.com E-Mail: JimGarrity@Earthlink.net eFax: (718)504-6214 Member, Association of Professional Genealogists Member, Godfrey Memorial Library, http://www.godfrey.org

Hi John, Here is some of what is in the "Refugees of 1776 From L. I. to CT" book. I notice that I mistyped and put 1770. It is actually 1776. :-) "The founder of the settlement on L. I. called Mosquito Cove was Joseph 1 Carpenter. His first wife Hannah, was a dau.f William and Abigail Carpenter of Rehoboth, Mass. His son, Joseph 2 of Mosquito Cove, b. at Pawtuxet R. I. about 1660; d. at Mosquito Cove between Sept. 9, 1687 and 1690. He is said to have a wife, Ann or Anne and sons; Joseph 3 b. Oct. 16, 1685; and Thomas 3 b. Aug. 15, 1687. In 1667, Joseph 1 petitions for land at Mosquito Cove for a saw-mill. Joseph 1 b. in England 1635. He m. 1. 1659 Hannah 2. in 1674, Ann Weeks. Joseph 2 m. Anne Willetts. (Mrs. Gilbert Scudder) It is more probably that Joseph 2 married Mary, dau. of Thomas and Jean Thrneycraft; and had a son, Thomas. (Mr. George W. Cocks) Capt. John 1 b. in Conn around 1658. His will was proved July 30, 1732 at Jamaica. Increas 2 son of John 1 b. at Jamaica abt. 1688, m ? Bergen; d. about 1776. He bought land at Jamaica in 1709. He was one of the executors of Capt. John's will abt. 1738. He had sons: Increase 3 ; Jacob 3, John 3, David 3 and Luke 3. A dau. Elizabeth 3 married Benjamin Wiggins. John 3 was Sheriff of Orange Co., NY. There are several pages and many names of Carpenter in the book. Can you send specific names to look for? Hope this is of help to you. Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 4/7/2004 4:12:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Johnlsaywhat@aol.com writes: In a message dated 4/7/04 07:03:17 Eastern Daylight Time, NY-LONGISLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Refugees of 1770 From Long Island to Connecticut" books do you have a Carpenter families listed >?

Hi Kirby, How are you? I see Benj. Kirby listed on the Pay Rolls (Onderdonk's "Revolutionary Incidents, Queen's County")(G. 24-28. See also G. 40 for Queen's Co. The List appears among Co. Josiah Smith's Papers in the Suffolk co. Historical Soc. at Riverhead.) Caleb Kirby is listed on the payroll of Capt. Richard Manee's Co. Militia,in Col. Josiah Smith's Regiment, in Queen's Co. Daniel Kirby is listed as signer of the Declaration signed by Inhabitants of Queens DCo., NY, Jan. 19, 1776. Hope that helps some. Sorry, I guess there isn't any Bio info for Kirby. :-) Good luck with your research. Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 4/7/2004 6:12:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, kirbz@northstate.net writes: hi, Joyce thank you so much for the lookup/response. I know the list has kept you busy the last few days! I truly appreciate your generosity of time & effort. I would be interested in what the refugees book may list on Benjamin & Caleb KIRBY [well, Daniel too, I suppose] as it might help me identify the different families. my ancestor Thomas was in NJ by 1765 but I still don't know 'from where' nor who his siblings or parents might be... maybe some light might be shed? thank you again. kirby in NC kirbz@northstate.net

On 4/8/04 (3:45:50 PM MST), in a posting to NYSUFFOL-L@rootsweb.com, Alannah Dwyer Mackay (mackayl@wvi.com) asked, "I just found a relative in 1900, residing as a servant for Charles S. Dailey, an undertaker in Islip, NY. As this is in 1900, the funeral home no longer exists. Would anyone know who took over this funeral home or any information on where records might exist? I believe that the old directories give the address as Locust St. in Islip. Any info you might have to assist me in this endeavor would be much appreciated." For questions such as yours, you may want to contact the Islip Public Library (the library can suggest which local newspaper might have this information and other possible sources of information): Islip Public Library 71 Monell Avenue Islip, NY 11751 Tel: 631/581-5933 eMail: islplib@suffolk.lib.ny.us http://islip.suffolk.lib.ny.us/ The pertinent geography: Islip is a hamlet (unincorporated area) in the southwest section of the Town of Islip, in the southwest part of Suffolk County. There are 4 villages (incorporated municipalities) and 23 hamlets all or partly in the Town of Islip. There are no cities and 10 towns in Suffolk County. There are 2 Indian reservations in Suffolk County. (I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone.) Beginning on the north and moving in a clockwise direction, the Hamlet of Islip in the Town of Islip is bordered on the north by the Hamlet of North Bay Shore, the Hamlet of Brentwood and the Hamlet of Central Islip; on the east by the Hamlet of Central Islip, the Hamlet of Islip Terrace and the Hamlet of East Islip; on the south by the Great South Bay; and, on the west by the Hamlet of Bay Shore. And, as occurs in every one of Suffolk County's 157 communities (0 cities, 31 villages and 126 hamlets), the Hamlet of Islip has a different border than does the "Islip, NY 11751" postal zone (i.e., a place can have an Islip mailing address and not be in Islip and a place can have other than an Islip mailing address and be in Islip). There are places in Islip with a "Bay Shore, NY 11706" mailing address. For those who have their copy of the 2002 or earlier editions of the LI Population Survey or have already downloaded the report from the Long Island Power Authority web site (eMail me directly if you need instructions on how to access and download the report), you'll find the Hamlet of Islip in the Town of Islip, Suffolk County on pages 14 & 20 (map) and 21 (population estimate). I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Wishing all a ziessen Pesach (sweet Passover)*, Walter Greenspan * The 8-day Festival of Passover begins on the 15th day of the month of Nissan (that's the Babylonian 'Nissan', not the Japanese 'Nissan'), which occurs at sunset on Monday, April 5 on the civil calendar. . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

I have updated the surname registries on the following NYS websites: New York County (Manhattan) http://www.rootsweb.com/~nynewyo2/ Queens County http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyqueen2/ Rensselaer County http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyrenss2/ On each website, there is a drop down menu at the top of their homepage. Under Genealogy, click on Surnames, to get to the surname registry. Please check your submission(s) for accuracy. If you need to make changes, use the convenient form on the webpage and put 'change' in the field you want to change. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton

Joyce, Thank you so much for the prompt reply. This is indeed the family line that I am looking into. I really appreciate your time in looking this up for me. Pat Smith in PA ----- Original Message ----- From: <JArmscoop@aol.com> To: <NY-LONGISLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [NY-LONGISLAND] Sayre "Refugees" > Hi Pat, > > I have an idea that this may be about the family that you are interested in. > (I hope.) > From "Refugees of 1776, From Long Island to Connecticut" > > Thomas I came to Southampton in 1640, with his son Job2. Both were in Lynn, > Mass in 1638. The house built by Thomas I in 1648 stood for more than 200 > years. > Thomas I b. about 1590 d. abt. 1670. He had sons, Francis 2, Daniel2, > Joseph2, and Job2. The latter (Job?) married (1) Sarah unknown (2) Hannah, widow of > Arthur Howell; d. April 1, 1694. > > Job's children were: > Job3 b. Aug. 25, 1672 m. Susanna Howell; d. Mar. 26, 1755. > Benjamin3 b. Aug. 9, 1674 > > Francis2 born________m. Sarah(probably Wheeler) d.Jan. 20, 1698 > Francis sons: Dea. John3 b Jan 6,1665; d.April 29,1724. > Ichobad3 married Elizabeth; d. 1782 > Source: Howell's "Southampton", also "Sayre Genealogy" > > The book does go on for pages about the Sayre family. Nothing on previous > generations that I noticed. I believe these people were the original immigrants > to L.I. > > If you have particular names, I could try to give you the info on them or I'd > recommend trying to find this two volume set in a library. :-) > > Happy Hunting, > Joyce in CA > http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop > > > > In a message dated 4/6/2004 12:37:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > rmspas@epix.net writes: > Yes. Thank you. > I would like the information on Francis SAYRE. At present all I have on > Francis Sayre is that he was born in Bedfordshire, England; married > Elizabeth ATKINS about 1591; had a son Thomas Sayre [1597-1669]. > Thomas Sayre married in Southampton, LI about 1635; no name of wife. > Any information would help on this line of the family. > Thank you for your time, > Pat Smith in PA > rmspas@epix.net > > > ==== NY-LONGISLAND Mailing List ==== > Karima, List Administrator mailto:NY-LONGISLAND-admin@rootsweb.com > List Guidelines: http://home.insightbb.com/~karima/LongIslandWelcome.html > >

HI Karen and Researchers, Perhaps the full name and author will help. The title of the two volume set is " The Refugees of 1776 from Long Island to Connecticut." The author is: Frederick Gregory Mather. You can probably find it in the inter-library loan if nothing else. :-) Glad you found the "Torrey's." I am using the second supplement. I also believe that I have seen some reference to the information by Mather on the longislandgenealogy.com site. There are indexes in both books. Glad if I can be of help. :-) Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 4/7/2004 7:30:08 AM Pacific Daylight Time, kwinfield@worldnet.att.net writes: Hi Joyce -- I just did a search of the Salt Lake Family History Center, and I found Torrey's Marriage Index with the two supplements. No microfilm, but I'll be going to Salt Lake to do some research in the next few months, so now I know I can see Torrey's. I couldn't find anything on a "Refugee Index," however. Can you help me out with that? Karen Winfield Mesa, Arizona

hi, Joyce thank you so much for the lookup/response. I know the list has kept you busy the last few days! I truly appreciate your generosity of time & effort. I would be interested in what the refugees book may list on Benjamin & Caleb KIRBY [well, Daniel too, I suppose] as it might help me identify the different families. my ancestor Thomas was in NJ by 1765 but I still don't know 'from where' nor who his siblings or parents might be... maybe some light might be shed? thank you again. kirby in NC kirbz@northstate.net

In a message dated 4/7/04 07:03:17 Eastern Daylight Time, NY-LONGISLAND-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: Refugees of 1770 From Long Island to Connecticut" books do you have a Carpenter families listed >? My Home pages John L. Carpenter Walpole,N.H. http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/r/John-L-Carpenter/index.html > > http://expage.com/page/carpenterlinks >

Hi Barb, Found two Wheelers in the "Torrey's"No Saxtons or Blydenburghs. Elizabeth Wheeler (1st wife) m. Allen Breed (c 1599-1690) m. Pullowhill, Bedfordshire 16 Nov 1622 Lynn Samuel Wheeler m. Elizabeth Herris (c 1656-1725). Elizabeth Herris Wheeler m2 Hugh Newbitt, m3 Edward Poisson, m4 Richard Blackleach; m. Stratford 29 May 1678 Hope this is a help. Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 4/6/2004 11:18:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Wyckoffba@wmconnect.com writes: Hi Joyce, Was wondering if there are any Saxtons, Wheeler or Blydenburghs in Torrey's Marriages. Thanks. Barb Wyckoff

Hi Pat, I have an idea that this may be about the family that you are interested in. (I hope.) From "Refugees of 1776, From Long Island to Connecticut" Thomas I came to Southampton in 1640, with his son Job2. Both were in Lynn, Mass in 1638. The house built by Thomas I in 1648 stood for more than 200 years. Thomas I b. about 1590 d. abt. 1670. He had sons, Francis 2, Daniel2, Joseph2, and Job2. The latter (Job?) married (1) Sarah unknown (2) Hannah, widow of Arthur Howell; d. April 1, 1694. Job's children were: Job3 b. Aug. 25, 1672 m. Susanna Howell; d. Mar. 26, 1755. Benjamin3 b. Aug. 9, 1674 Francis2 born________m. Sarah(probably Wheeler) d.Jan. 20, 1698 Francis sons: Dea. John3 b Jan 6,1665; d.April 29,1724. Ichobad3 married Elizabeth; d. 1782 Source: Howell's "Southampton", also "Sayre Genealogy" The book does go on for pages about the Sayre family. Nothing on previous generations that I noticed. I believe these people were the original immigrants to L.I. If you have particular names, I could try to give you the info on them or I'd recommend trying to find this two volume set in a library. :-) Happy Hunting, Joyce in CA http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop In a message dated 4/6/2004 12:37:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rmspas@epix.net writes: Yes. Thank you. I would like the information on Francis SAYRE. At present all I have on Francis Sayre is that he was born in Bedfordshire, England; married Elizabeth ATKINS about 1591; had a son Thomas Sayre [1597-1669]. Thomas Sayre married in Southampton, LI about 1635; no name of wife. Any information would help on this line of the family. Thank you for your time, Pat Smith in PA rmspas@epix.net

Does anyone on this list attend the Southold Presbyterian Church? Are there any Horton Researchers on this list?

Yes. Thank you. I would like the information on Francis SAYRE. At present all I have on Francis Sayre is that he was born in Bedfordshire, England; married Elizabeth ATKINS about 1591; had a son Thomas Sayre [1597-1669]. Thomas Sayre married in Southampton, LI about 1635; no name of wife. Any information would help on this line of the family. Thank you for your time, Pat Smith in PA rmspas@epix.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <JArmscoop@aol.com> To: <NY-LONGISLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 1:02 PM Subject: Re: [NY-LONGISLAND] "Second Supplement To Torrey's N.E. Marriages bef. 1700" > Hi Pat and Researchers, > > Sorry, I do not find Sayre or Atkins in the "Torrey's" book. It looks like > there is all you could want in the "Refugees" book, however. Can you be more > specific about the information that you are looking for and I will try to get > some for you? I do see a Francis Sayre. Let me know if you need that > information. > > In answer to a question which was asked by someone else, the Torrey's book is > 70 pages long (small pages) counting index. > > Happy Hunting, > Joyce in CA > http://www.geocities.com/jarmscoop > > > In a message dated 4/4/2004 6:00:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rmspas@epix.net > writes: > This is a long shot BUT do you find a Thomas Sayre [1597-1669] listed in > your book. I do not have a name for his wife. His parents were Francis Sayre > & Elizabeth Atkins who were married 1591. > Thanks so much for the offer, > Pat Smith in PA > researching - Richard "Bull" Smith lineage; Ananias Conklin; Capt Leon > Gardiner; etc. > > > ==== NY-LONGISLAND Mailing List ==== > > Karima, List Administrator mailto:NY-LONGISLAND-admin@rootsweb.com > List Guidelines: http://home.insightbb.com/~karima/LongIslandWelcome.html >

Dear Joyce, Thank you so much for the information, really appreciate you taking the time to do the look ups. Linda