I believe this was the practice long before a law was passed. It worked the other way too. Women who married Americans automatically became citizens. I recently re-read the autobiography of Consuelo Vanderbilt who married the Duke of Marlborough in 1895. She thus lost her American citizenship and, after an unhappy arranged marriage and a divorce many years later, had to go thru legal processes to regain it.  And, of further interest to all of us, tho the daughter of one of the richest families in the world, she had no birth certificate.  Born in NYC in 1877. So it was not just immigrants, the poor etc who did not bother registering births.  Virginia ________________________________ From: mizscarlettny via <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 2:48 PM Subject: [NY-IRISH] 1907 ACT vs Women's US Citizenship Dear Friends, "The Expatriation Act of 1907 mandated that all women acquired their husband’s nationality upon marriage. As a result, between 1907 and 1922, countless women lost their U.S. citizenship through marriage to non-citizens." http://blog.eogn.com/2014/07/20/webinar-women-who-lost-citizenship-through-marriage-naturalization-and-repatriation-records-1922-1956/ WEBINAR on topic> July 24 at 1:00 PM Eastern time You may sign up for free to participate. Click on "Attend Session" http://www.uscis.gov/HGWebinars#%E2%80%9CRecords%20Found%E2%80%9D%20Case%20Studies Does anyone know of a resource that lists NYC women who lost citizenship? Barb ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Right, Virginia. It was once was that females and children only gained US citizenship through a father or husband. How well we long time list members remember "searching for the man," even in census records. (Women were not indexed then in Ancestry.) It wasn't until Aug 1920, when women gained the right to vote, that they could apply for citizenship in their name. Citizenship was also a reason for immigrant women to marry. Barb -----Original Message----- From: VLB [email protected] I believe this was the practice long before a law was passed. It worked the other way too. Women who married Americans automatically became citizens. I recently re-read the autobiography of Consuelo Vanderbilt who married the Duke of Marlborough in 1895. She thus lost her American citizenship and, after an unhappy arranged marriage and a divorce many years later, had to go thru legal processes to regain it. And, of further interest to all of us, tho the daughter of one of the richest families in the world, she had no birth certificate. Born in NYC in 1877. So it was not just immigrants, the poor etc who did not bother registering births. Virginia From: mizscarlettny via <[email protected]> Dear Friends, "The Expatriation Act of 1907 mandated that all women acquired their husband’s nationality upon marriage. As a result, between 1907 and 1922, countless women lost their U.S. citizenship through marriage to non-citizens." http://blog.eogn.com/2014/07/20/webinar-women-who-lost-citizenship-through-marriage-naturalization-and-repatriation-records-1922-1956/ WEBINAR on topic [YOU MUST PREP YOUR COMPUTER]> July 24 at 1:00 PM Eastern time You may sign up for free to participate. Click on "Attend Session" http://www.uscis.gov/HGWebinars#%E2%80%9CRecords%20Found%E2%80%9D%20Case%20Studies Does anyone know of a resource that lists NYC women who lost citizenship? Barb

Actually, Barb, women could and did become citizens on their own from an early time, altho it was not the usual practice. If you go to Ancestry's database, 'New York Naturalization Petitions, 1794-1906' and enter any common Irish female name, such as Mary Murphy or Mary Kelly, you will see a number of women who went thru the naturalization process on their own account. Some do say 'Mary, wife of -----', but it is the woman who is the applicant.  None I have seen bother crossing out 'his, him, he' on the pre-printed forms. And one clerk got desperate when he had to fill in 'occupation' so he wrote 'lady'. Or maybe that's what Mary informed him she was, no doubt with a cold eye when he asked! Virginia ________________________________ From: mizscarlettny via <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:04 PM Subject: [NY-IRISH] Women & US Citizenship Right, Virginia. It was once was that females and children only gained US citizenship through a father or husband. How well we long time list members remember "searching for the man," even in census records. (Women were not indexed then in Ancestry.) It wasn't until Aug 1920, when women gained the right to vote, that they could apply for citizenship in their name. Citizenship was also a reason for immigrant women to marry. Barb ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This happened to my mother's aunt. She married a German alien in the US and lost her citizenship. I did not know this until I found naturalization papers for her. I was very confused, I thought 'why did she need to be naturalized?' Then I found out about the law on women marrying non-citizens. Ally -------Original Message------- From: VLB via Date: 7/23/2014 1:50:01 PM To: mizscarlettny; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] 1907 ACT vs Women's US Citizenship I believe this was the practice long before a law was passed. It worked the other way too. Women who married Americans automatically became citizens. I recently re-read the autobiography of Consuelo Vanderbilt who married the Duke of Marlborough in 1895. She thus lost her American citizenship and, after an unhappy arranged marriage and a divorce many years later, had to go thru legal processes to regain it. And, of further interest to all of us, tho the daughter of one of the richest families in the world, she had no birth certificate. Born in NYC in 1877. So it was not just immigrants, the poor etc who did not bother registering births. Virginia