...and, to be perfectly clear, until you see the document you are uncertain IF this is your family. Even unusual names may be different from your expectations. Barb -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Presnall via <[email protected]> If you follow this link you can search for the FHL # once you have the cert #...you will need the info on both to be able to fill out the form, a link is on this page as well as the FHL # Calculator. http://stevemorse.org/vital/filmnotes.html Joyce