Pat, I found the first one, without John, free at Ancestry, bottom of the page: http://interactive.ancestry.com/6224/4661149_00027?backurl=&ssrc=&backlabel=Return Household with BRIEVOGEL /CARMODY, MARY / BERNADETTE / ROBERT. 1630 Taylor Ave., Bronx. 1930 United States Federal Census about Mary Carmody Name: Mary Carmody Gender: Female Birth Year: abt 1907 Birthplace: New York Race: White Home in 1930: Bronx, Bronx, New York Marital Status: Married Relation to Head of House: Stepdaughter Father's Birthplace: Massachusetts Mother's name: May Breivogel Mother's Birthplace: New Jersey Occupation: Education: Military service: Rent/home value: Age at first marriage: Parents' birthplace: Household Members: Name, Age Charles Breivogel, 45 May Breivogel, 42 Anthony W Nott, 17 Helen T Nott, 12 Mary Carmody, 23 Bernadette Carmody, 5 Robert S Carmody, 3 [3 11/12] Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Bronx, Bronx, New York; Roll: 1479; Page: 10B; Enumeration District: 0444; Image: 22.0; FHL microfilm: 2341214. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1930 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2002. I didn't find a John Carmody with Margaret in the same household, living in "New York City (All Boroughs), New York, USA" I'm not aware that there's a 1935 NY census. PJ