It's interesting that the 1860 census taker had that flight of fancy and called Jane Morse a "Clairvoyant Physician." You have to wonder why. Maybe she said to the fellow, "bet I'm the first woman doctor you've counted!" and he thought she was clairvoyant. There were so few woman doctors in those days, I'm sure it was easier for him to think of her as a clairvoyant than an actual doctor. Just speculating! Erin --- Original Message ----- From: <ny-irish-request@rootsweb.com> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:01 AM Subject: NY-IRISH Digest, Vol 4, Issue 109 > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Anybody know Latin? (Elizabeth Lynch) > 2. A bit of Census humor (Theresa Bora) > 3. Re: A bit of Census humor (Pat Connors) > 4. Re: A bit of Census humor (VOOLICH@aol.com) > 5. Re: A bit of Census humor (Clare Higgins) > 6. Re: A bit of Census humor (MizScarlettNY@aol.com) > 7. Re: A bit of Census humor (VOOLICH@aol.com) > 8. Re: A bit of Census humor (VOOLICH@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 04:30:12 -0700 (PDT) > From: Elizabeth Lynch <scribbler714@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Anybody know Latin? > To: NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <406714.48650.qm@web36103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >>>"In matrimonio canonice conjuncti sunt a Rev. Bourke[?] Mauritius Higgins >>>& > Catherine Flanagan coram Cornelio Flanagan Joanne[?] Flyercate cum multis > alies."<< > > Well, you already translated all the really important bits :) Here are > some others: > > "coram" = in the presence of > "cum multis alies" = "and many (or various) others" > > Liz > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:21:31 -0400 > From: "Theresa Bora" <terrybora@wowway.com> > Subject: [NY-IRISH] A bit of Census humor > To: "NY-IRISH-L" <NY-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com>, > <ny-troy-irish-gensoc@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <005201c9f9a7$36486aa0$ab839543@Tipperary> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I thought you might enjoy this little bit of info...it brightened my > otherwise dreary, gray and rainy day. While transcribing the 1865 Troy > census today I came across an occupation for a Jane Morse. She was listed > as 'Doctores(s)'. I needed to verify the surname, so I went to the 1860 > US NY census. She's mis-indexed as Moore, but what really fascinated me > was her occupation. The census taker must have had a flight of fancy > because he has her listed as "Clairvoyant Physician'. By 1870 she's back > to just plain 'Physician', but for one brief and shining moment in 1860, > she was 'clairvoyant'. You have to love those census takers. > Terry Bora in Mich. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:20:47 -0700 > From: Pat Connors <nymets22@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] A bit of Census humor > To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <e194a7930906301120h7794b02bi2b6ef59bd64e5e6e@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Terry has just shown what us transcribers find so much fun when > reading all the census pages we read. It is more than finding family > ancestors, or putting info onto spreadsheets, censuses give us a story > over time of families/people we never knew. We often think about how > they lived, what happened to their spouse, what kind of living > conditions they had and then there are the various > occupations....thanks Terry for sharing the doctor. > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Theresa Bora<terrybora@wowway.com> > wrote: >> I thought you might enjoy this little bit of info...it brightened my >> otherwise dreary, gray and rainy day. While transcribing the 1865 Troy >> census today I came across an occupation for a Jane Morse. She was >> listed as 'Doctores(s)'. I needed to verify the surname, so I went to >> the 1860 US NY census. She's mis-indexed as Moore, but what really >> fascinated me was her occupation. The census taker must have had a >> flight of fancy because he has her listed as "Clairvoyant Physician'. By >> 1870 she's back to just plain 'Physician', but for one brief and shining >> moment in 1860, she was 'clairvoyant'. You have to love those census >> takers. >> Terry Bora in Mich. > > > > > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:53:08 EDT > From: VOOLICH@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] A bit of Census humor > To: nymets22@gmail.com, ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <ccd.5a50d46e.377bb914@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" > > I always frind the occupations interesting (also death certificates cause > of death, I had one relative die of "exhaustion.") > I have one ancestor who in the 1870 census is 86 (he lived until 91). > His > occupation is listed as "old man of the house"--Beers Radford, Middlebury > CT. > Erica > > In a message dated 6/30/09 2:21:37 PM, nymets22@gmail.com writes: > > >> Terry has just shown what us transcribers find so much fun when >> reading all the census pages we read.? It is more than finding family >> ancestors, or putting info onto spreadsheets, censuses give us a story >> over time of families/people we never knew.? We often think about how >> they lived, what happened to their spouse, what kind of living >> conditions they had and then there are the various >> occupations....thanks Terry for sharing the doctor. >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Theresa Bora<terrybora@wowway.com> >> wrote: >> > I thought you might enjoy this little bit of info...it brightened my >> otherwise dreary, gray and rainy day. While transcribing the 1865 Troy >> census >> today I came across an occupation for a Jane Morse.? She was listed as >> 'Doctores(s)'.? I needed to verify the surname, so I went to the 1860 US >> NY >> census.? She's mis-indexed as Moore, but what really fascinated me was >> her >> occupation.? The census taker must have had a flight of fancy because he >> has >> her listed as "Clairvoyant Physician'.? By 1870 she's back to just plain >> 'Physician', but for one brief and shining moment in 1860, she was >> 'clairvoyant'.? You have to love those census takers. >> > Terry Bora in Mich. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Pat Connors, Sacramento CA >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com >> >> ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== >> Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.? Also, >> check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:? >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> > > > > > ************** > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377075x1201454393/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62& > bcd=JunestepsfooterNO62) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:21:15 -0400 > From: "Clare Higgins" <clarehiggins@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] A bit of Census humor > To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <132CF6432ECA42B8B8C8943870CF58C2@HIGGINS> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > "Old man of the house" -- that's funny! I find many of my ancestors listed > simply as "laborer," and I wish it were more specific. > > Sometimes "exhaustion" as a cause of death is a general term for any > condition that causes a fatal loss of strength. My great-grandmother's > cause > of death was listed as "asthenia (exhaustion)," and the details on the > certificate said she died of hemorrhaging from a miscarriage, and that she > also had TB. Her lungs must have been bleeding as well. The combination of > the two literally drained her of life. She was only 37. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of VOOLICH@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 2:53 PM > To: nymets22@gmail.com; ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] A bit of Census humor > > I always frind the occupations interesting (also death certificates cause > of death, I had one relative die of "exhaustion.") > I have one ancestor who in the 1870 census is 86 (he lived until 91). > His > occupation is listed as "old man of the house"--Beers Radford, Middlebury > CT. > Erica > > In a message dated 6/30/09 2:21:37 PM, nymets22@gmail.com writes: > > >> Terry has just shown what us transcribers find so much fun when >> reading all the census pages we read.? It is more than finding family >> ancestors, or putting info onto spreadsheets, censuses give us a story >> over time of families/people we never knew.? We often think about how >> they lived, what happened to their spouse, what kind of living >> conditions they had and then there are the various >> occupations....thanks Terry for sharing the doctor. >> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Theresa Bora<terrybora@wowway.com> >> wrote: >> > I thought you might enjoy this little bit of info...it brightened my >> otherwise dreary, gray and rainy day. While transcribing the 1865 Troy > census >> today I came across an occupation for a Jane Morse.? She was listed as >> 'Doctores(s)'.? I needed to verify the surname, so I went to the 1860 US > NY >> census.? She's mis-indexed as Moore, but what really fascinated me was >> her > >> occupation.? The census taker must have had a flight of fancy because he > has >> her listed as "Clairvoyant Physician'.? By 1870 she's back to just plain >> 'Physician', but for one brief and shining moment in 1860, she was >> 'clairvoyant'.? You have to love those census takers. >> > Terry Bora in Mich. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Pat Connors, Sacramento CA >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com >> >> ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== >> Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.? Also, >> check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:? >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message >> >> > > > > > ************** > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377075x1201454393/aol?redir=htt > p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62& > bcd=JunestepsfooterNO62) > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:00:29 EDT > From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] A bit of Census humor > To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c66.566bdab9.377bd6ed@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > My favorite occupational find, for two 50+ yr old women in the same family > was "Lady of Leisure." > > > ************** > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See > yours in just 2 easy steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377075x1201454393/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc= > 668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=JunestepsfooterNO62) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:53:00 EDT > From: VOOLICH@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] A bit of Census humor > To: clarehiggins@comcast.net, ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d45.4bb26b25.377c1b7c@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > How sad! > May she rest in peace. > Erica > In a message dated 6/30/09 3:22:00 PM, clarehiggins@comcast.net writes: > > >> "Old man of the house" -- that's funny! I find many of my ancestors >> listed >> simply as "laborer," and I wish it were more specific. >> >> Sometimes "exhaustion" as a cause of death is a general term for any >> condition that causes a fatal loss of strength. My great-grandmother's >> cause >> of death was listed as "asthenia (exhaustion)," and the details on the >> certificate said she died of hemorrhaging from a miscarriage, and that >> she >> also had TB. Her lungs must have been bleeding as well. The combination >> of >> the two literally drained her of life. She was only 37. >> > > > > > ************** > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377075x1201454393/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62& > bcd=JunestepsfooterNO62) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:54:10 EDT > From: VOOLICH@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] A bit of Census humor > To: MizScarlettNY@aol.com, ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <bd0.56b247aa.377c1bc2@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I'd love to try that occupation! > Erica > In a message dated 6/30/09 5:08:14 PM, MizScarlettNY@aol.com writes: > > >> My favorite occupational find, for two 50+ yr old women in the same >> family >> was "Lady of Leisure." >> > > > > > ************** > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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