First, thanks to all for the many responses/suggestions to my plea for help. This is where I stand at the moment. 1. Patrick Higgins landed in New York City in 1863. The date in the Emigrants' Savings Bank Entry is either Jan, Jun, or Jul. His son was born in late January 1864 in Ireland. Nature being what it is, that date is more than likely Jun or Jul. The ship name given is the Universe and it did land in NY in the likely timeframe - but I haven't been able to find his name on the passengers' list on any site including Steve Morse's and Ancestry that I have looked. His address is given as 57 Washington Street, City not stated. Since he was listed as a longshoreman and he had an account at the Emigrants' Savings Bank - and since the Brooklyn Bridge wasn't there at the time, my "educated" hunch is that he lived in New York on Manhattan. 2. His family came over in about 1865 (information from family memories and not confirmed by finding any passengers' listing for them as of yet). Patrick was naturalized in Iowa in September 1868. So it would appear that the family was only in the New York area from the earliest Jun 1863 to the latest Sep 1868. BTW, probably the first papers towards citizenship were done in NY State and that avenue has not yet been pursued. Anyone with knowledge of how to do this intelligently? Would they give any informtion that would be worth the effort in trying to locate them? 3. Miss Nellie Higgins, age unknown, lived in Brooklyn in 1927. She was supposed to be on a trip to visit the West. Don't know anything more about her other than she was a relative of some kind to my Grandfather, the son (above) that was born in Ireland in January 1864. I have researched the 1920 and 1930 Federal census and have some possible candidates. Next avenue of research appears to be looking for phone books, criss-cross, city directories, possibly newspapers. Other suggestions welcome. 4. Going back to research in Ireland. Patrick married Ellen/Eleanor McDermottroe in the Roman Catholic church in Boyle, Co Roscommon (proven). She was born in Copse, a tiny settlement just outside of Boyle (proven). The children were christened/baptised in the same church (proven) so one would assume that the family lived in that area. Patrick was listed as a licensed publican (tavern owner/keeper) (proven) so again, one would assume that they were living in or very near Boyle. There was a Higgins family that once owned a fairly respectful home in the area (now fallen down). That might be an avenue to pursue. As for Patrick, I do not know where he was born nor who his parents or siblings were and am in the process of looking at the LDS microfilm for the church involved to see if I can find anything. Other suggestion welcome.

I was looking for Patrick & Lucy Corcoran and son Patrick. I found Lucy listed as spinster. Patrick listed as Patt and no child Patrick age 1yr. Sometimes the manifest isn't perfect. -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Jones Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 11:30 AM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-IRISH] Need help/suggestions for a tough genealogicalsearch/brickwall First, thanks to all for the many responses/suggestions to my plea for help. This is where I stand at the moment. 1. Patrick Higgins landed in New York City in 1863. The date in the Emigrants' Savings Bank Entry is either Jan, Jun, or Jul. His son was born in late January 1864 in Ireland. Nature being what it is, that date is more than likely Jun or Jul. The ship name given is the Universe and it did land in NY in the likely timeframe - but I haven't been able to find his name on the passengers' list on any site including Steve Morse's and Ancestry that I have looked. His address is given as 57 Washington Street, City not stated. Since he was listed as a longshoreman and he had an account at the Emigrants' Savings Bank - and since the Brooklyn Bridge wasn't there at the time, my "educated" hunch is that he lived in New York on Manhattan. 2. His family came over in about 1865 (information from family memories and not confirmed by finding any passengers' listing for them as of yet). Patrick was naturalized in Iowa in September 1868. So it would appear that the family was only in the New York area from the earliest Jun 1863 to the latest Sep 1868. BTW, probably the first papers towards citizenship were done in NY State and that avenue has not yet been pursued. Anyone with knowledge of how to do this intelligently? Would they give any informtion that would be worth the effort in trying to locate them? 3. Miss Nellie Higgins, age unknown, lived in Brooklyn in 1927. She was supposed to be on a trip to visit the West. Don't know anything more about her other than she was a relative of some kind to my Grandfather, the son (above) that was born in Ireland in January 1864. I have researched the 1920 and 1930 Federal census and have some possible candidates. Next avenue of research appears to be looking for phone books, criss-cross, city directories, possibly newspapers. Other suggestions welcome. 4. Going back to research in Ireland. Patrick married Ellen/Eleanor McDermottroe in the Roman Catholic church in Boyle, Co Roscommon (proven). She was born in Copse, a tiny settlement just outside of Boyle (proven). The children were christened/baptised in the same church (proven) so one would assume that the family lived in that area. Patrick was listed as a licensed publican (tavern owner/keeper) (proven) so again, one would assume that they were living in or very near Boyle. There was a Higgins family that once owned a fairly respectful home in the area (now fallen down). That might be an avenue to pursue. As for Patrick, I do not know where he was born nor who his parents or siblings were and am in the process of looking at the LDS microfilm for the church involved to see if I can find anything. Other suggestion welcome. ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message