Actually there is not a Waterford County in NY but in Ireland they usually say the county first, like County Waterford, River Shannon, etc. If you records say born 'County Waterford, Ireland', then don't look any further than Ireland. Probably written that way by a USA clerk. Since they were married 8 years in 1910 and there is no record for them in MA and they came from NY, is it possible they married in NY. Are we talking about the state or the City? If the City, there are good marriage records for that time and an index is online at: http://www.italiangen.org/VRECLIST.stm <http://www.italiangen.org/VRECLIST.stm> If they married in the City, you can send for their death certificate using the marriage number found in the index. Family History Library has filmed all the indexes and certificates and you can find their numbers at a site I maintain at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nynewyo2/ <http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Enynewyo2/> Under the Genealogy button, click on Vital Records. Go to LDS Vital Records Films. As far as passenger records, have you tried the Ellis Island site? They started using the center in 1892 so you ancestors would have been processed there if the emigrated to NY first before going to MA. This is a great website with an excellent search engine. http://www.ellisisland.org/ And, it's free. > Actually there is not a Waterford County in NY but in Ireland they > usually say the county first, like County Waterford, River Shannon, > etc. If you records say born 'County Waterford, Ireland', then don't > look any further than Ireland. Probably written that way by a USA > clerk. Since they were married 8 years in 1910 and there is no record > for them in MA and they came from NY, is it possible they married in > NY. Are we talking about the state or the City? If the City, there > are good marriage records for that time and an index is online at: > http://www.italiangen.org/VRECLIST.stm > <http://www.italiangen.org/VRECLIST.stm> > > If they married in the City, you can send for their death certificate > using the marriage number found in the index. Family History Library > has filmed all the indexes and certificates and you can find their > numbers at a site I maintain at: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nynewyo2/ > <http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Enynewyo2/> > Under the Genealogy button, click on Vital Records. Go to LDS Vital > Records Films. > > > As far as passenger records, have you tried the Ellis Island site? > They started using the center in 1892 so you ancestors would have been > processed there if the emigrated to NY first before going to MA. This > is a great website with an excellent search engine. > http://www.ellisisland.org/ > And, it's free. > > > > > Hi Pat; I was just searching my e-mails for the NY-Irish and found > your response. I had missed it. Thank you for your response. I had > no idea there was a Waterford County in New York and that is something > I will have to keep in mind. I appreciate that. My grandmothers > birth record said parents place of birth was "Waterford County, > Ireland" but you know how that can be, they did come to Mass from New > York. I do not have a marriage record for them yet. That is what I > am currently trying to find as it would probably have parent names on > it. For the 1910 census they were living in Mass, had been married 8 > years and immigration dates were shown as 1901 for him and 1898 for > her. This means they would have to have married in the US. I know > there is no marriage record for them in Massachusetts. My grandmother > said they were in New York before they came to Massachusetts and she > was born in 1903. At least I have a fairly narrow window to search. Now > I am faced with the daunting prospect of searching New York which I > don't know much about. No immigration records have given a clue as to > possible family/extended family. > > btw - I have a membership at the New England Historical Society which > expires the end of January. It includes online access for > Massachusetts BMD's through 1915. If anyone needs anything looked up > please let me know and I will do that for you. The online database > includes a photo of the original record. > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com