I'm trying to make the jump from my Irish ancestors in NY back to County Cork but I have yet to make any concrete links. Partly this is due to me not being able to find out when they immigrated so that means I haven't been able to get any info on their home towns and such. But that's another day's question... Has anyone used the website organized by the Irish Family History Foundation, http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/? They've just added some records to their online database, and I'd like to view some of them, but at €5.00 per record, that can get pretty expensive pretty quick, esp if the records don't contain the info I'm hoping for. So, if you have paid to view records at that site, esp from Co. Cork, I have a couple of questions for you. 1. Does the birth record give the full name of each parent (including the mother's maiden name)? What other info does it give? 2. Does the marriage record give the names of the bride and groom's parents? Does it give the town where the bride and groom are from? Any other info? Thank you so much, Merry Christmas! Carol Hokana Boston (now researching HALLORAN, O'CONNELL, and HIGGINS in Co. Cork) P.S. Their website is changing from http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/ to http://www.RootsIreland.ie

Carol, Yes, I've recently used the site:  http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/?  My records tho were from County Meath, the town of Navan.  Each record is different as to the information. On the marriage records one of mine gave the maiden name of the bride plus the name of her parents.  Also gave the name of the "witnesses".  Another record only had the bride and grooms names.   It just depends on the time frame.  I'm searching back to the early 1800's and forward.  The Civil death records gave lots of info.  Name, address, occupation, informant.  There again, it just depends on the time of the record.  The birth records I've looked at are the same - depending on who the person is, what church it was, etc. All in all, I was very satisfied.  Yes, the cost is a little pricey, BUT when you consider where these records come from (Ireland) you can't begin to travel over there and look for yourself.  You can access records from your home, at your convenience, 24/7 and that has to account for something. I found several records that I needed had same names but in the index, they do you give you a date.  Try to match the date with the record that you might need and go from there.  I did get two that were not related to what I needed, but I took an educated guess .  Then I look at it as well, at least I know those two records are not what I am looking for.  It is so easy to put money into your account via the credit card.  Then just start searching and see what happens.  You have 6 months to go back and look at the record once you pay for it.  I always print them out as I pay for them but in case I loose that info, I have 6 months to look at it again without an additional charge.  If you look back at the same record twice, it always tells you how much time you have left so it really is a neat deal.  Hope I've answered your questions.  I highly recommend this site. Merry Christmas, Nancy PS.  Wouldn't the census records help to give the year of immigration?  That would help to narrow the time frame down a little bit.  You sort of have to play detective along with deciphering the handwriting :o) Support Our Troops God Bless America Has anyone used the website organized by the Irish Family History  Foundation, http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/?  They've just added some  records to their online database, and I'd like to view some of them,  but at €5.00 per record, that can get pretty expensive pretty quick,  esp if the records don't contain the info I'm hoping for.  So, if you  have paid to view records at that site, esp from Co. Cork, I have a  couple of questions for you. 1. Does the birth record give the full name of each parent (including  the mother's maiden name)?  What other info does it give? 2. Does the marriage record give the names of the bride and groom's  parents?  Does it give the town where the bride and groom are from?    Any other info? Thank you so much, Merry Christmas! Carol Hokana Boston (now researching HALLORAN, O'CONNELL, and HIGGINS in Co. Cork) P.S.  Their website is changing from http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/ to http://www.RootsIreland.ie  

Hello Carol- The IFHF site may say County Cork but it is really only the northern half of baptism & marriage records pre 1864. Post 1864 the BMD start to become available. It is a great source and yes it does cost 5Euro about $7.50 per record view which are printable but I have used it in several ways. The record will give Priest name, sponsor/witness names and parent names. First, you can filter by father's name for a baptism record. Second you can filter by parish if by chance you know it. Other ideas to combine in: Third , get a hint from Griffiths Fourth , there is a new site, http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/ with Kerry & Dublin records FREE that plans to release County Cork "soon". You may want to get a list of baptism sponsors in US which may be connected that help your filter process. As a descendent of a Buckley and Scannell from west Cork , I just wait. Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays! John -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nick & Carol Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:48 PM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-IRISH] Searching back from NY to Ireland I'm trying to make the jump from my Irish ancestors in NY back to County Cork but I have yet to make any concrete links. Partly this is due to me not being able to find out when they immigrated so that means I haven't been able to get any info on their home towns and such. But that's another day's question... Has anyone used the website organized by the Irish Family History Foundation, http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/? They've just added some records to their online database, and I'd like to view some of them, but at €5.00 per record, that can get pretty expensive pretty quick, esp if the records don't contain the info I'm hoping for. So, if you have paid to view records at that site, esp from Co. Cork, I have a couple of questions for you. 1. Does the birth record give the full name of each parent (including the mother's maiden name)? What other info does it give? 2. Does the marriage record give the names of the bride and groom's parents? Does it give the town where the bride and groom are from? Any other info? Thank you so much, Merry Christmas! Carol Hokana Boston (now researching HALLORAN, O'CONNELL, and HIGGINS in Co. Cork) P.S. Their website is changing from http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/ to http://www.RootsIreland.ie ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Many thanks to Claire and John for their responses. You've helped me see that there is more I do not know about researching in Ireland. What are the GRO records that Claire wrote of? And how do I find the registration districts of Co. Cork? My ancestors were born in the early 1800s, definitely prior to 1864. I do not have baptism records for them in this country as my GG GF was in the military and the children (my G GM was born on a military base in San Francisco, CA in 1872. Her siblings were born in Alaska during the purchase of that territory and prior to it becoming a US state. I have not located them in the 1870 US Census because they were in Alaska. By 1880, they were living in Washington, DC, and probably long- since baptized. I have strong reason to believe that my GG GF John O'CONNELL, who was in NYC 1855 to enlist in the military and again in 1865 to marry by GG GM Ellen SULLIVAN, was from Killavullen, Co. Cork. Using the IFHF site today, I found a baptismal record that matches what I know and what I suspect about him. And it's only ONE record! After going through parish after parish, I discovered a baptismal record that is a match to my Ellen SULLIVAN in a village called Kanturk, Co. Cork. That is very exciting! I have a lead, not a confirmed lead, but a lead (!), and I haven't had one like this in so long. It gives me a place to start searching. Yooo hooo! What a Christmas present! Thank you again, Carol Hokana Boston (now researching HALLORAN, SULLIVAN, O'CONNELL, and HIGGINS in Co. Cork)

Hi Carol, The IFHF site has mostly church records at this point, so it would have baptism (not birth) records. Baptism (and church marriage) records have whatever information the priest felt like recording, so it's hard to predict what would be in the record you want. If you want the official birth or marriage record (which has most of the info you asked about -- the marriage record does not show mother's names), you would have to order it from the GRO records. FamilySearchLabs.org has put the Irish BMD indexes online free, from which you can get the relevant info to order the record -- assuming it's after 1864, when Irish birth records begin. If it's a year that the LDS have on film, you can order the entry from them, probably your cheapest option. Otherwise, you have to order it from the GRO (online or by mail) and hope you have the right entry. (Do you know the registration districts in Cork? The indexes will show only the districts, not the counties, which can cause problems with the districts that cross county boundaries). Hope that helps. Claire K. On Dec 23, 2009, at 8:47 PM, Nick & Carol wrote: > ...Has anyone used the website organized by the Irish Family History > Foundation, http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/? ... > 1. Does the birth record give the full name of each parent (including > the mother's maiden name)? What other info does it give? > > 2. Does the marriage record give the names of the bride and groom's > parents? Does it give the town where the bride and groom are from? > Any other info?

Dear Carol: I have used this site on a limited basis (it's very exoensive) but it could be useful I think. The information is often spotty and disappointing. Good luck, Irish research is tough. I've been doing it for 10 years. Lois Holcomb (Boyle-Irish name) On Dec 23, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Nick & Carol wrote: > I'm trying to make the jump from my Irish ancestors in NY back to > County Cork but I have yet to make any concrete links. Partly this is > due to me not being able to find out when they immigrated so that > means I haven't been able to get any info on their home towns and > such. But that's another day's question... > > Has anyone used the website organized by the Irish Family History > Foundation, http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/? They've just added some > records to their online database, and I'd like to view some of them, > but at €5.00 per record, that can get pretty expensive pretty quick, > esp if the records don't contain the info I'm hoping for. So, if you > have paid to view records at that site, esp from Co. Cork, I have a > couple of questions for you. > > 1. Does the birth record give the full name of each parent (including > the mother's maiden name)? What other info does it give? > > 2. Does the marriage record give the names of the bride and groom's > parents? Does it give the town where the bride and groom are from? > Any other info? > > Thank you so much, > > Merry Christmas! > > Carol Hokana > Boston > (now researching HALLORAN, O'CONNELL, and HIGGINS in Co. Cork) > > > P.S. Their website is changing from http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/ > to http://www.RootsIreland.ie > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http:// > www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message