I responded to Christina HUNT, that the NYPL main branch is the reporitory for all years of the Emigrant Savings Bank Ledgers, on film, but only some years are accessible online at Ancestry.com. I statedthat myexperience wassuch,that the online version matched the in person search at NYPL. So, her response follows, with part of my email belowt that. Conclusion, they will accept Emigrant records of homelands, with film numbers attached. Barb Subj: Re: Irish homes of origin Date: 8/27/2009 3:23:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: chrisnina@gmail.com To: mizscarlettny@aol.com If someone wants to copy and transcribe records from film then it matters not if the records are also on Ancestry. We just can't transcribe records from Ancestry. Chris On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:46 PM, <mizscarlettny@aol.com> wrote: > Thanks for writing again, Christina. > Thus, to negate the value of the paid online accessible records, when the > townland was only occasionally mentioned, > diminishes the importance of these documents. Not everyone llives train > distance from NYC, as I do, to go to NYPL. > > Barbara ========================= chrisnina@gmail.com writes: > Barb > We are accepting headstones that state the location in Ireland where > the person was born. > For example: > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/photos/tombstones/markers. > htm > Obits: > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/limerick/newspapers/nytimes1feb1903. > txt > We have Repeal Associations in the US & Canada: > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/countrywide/news.htm > Emigrations Records - for example: > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/longford/emigration/emig-wash-ny.txt > > We accept vital records from Ireland. > We would accept a death record from a Foreign country that states the > birth location in Ireland. My own ancestors left no records stating > their location of origin other than "Ireland". Because of that, none > of my family is in the project, though, I hope someday to find the > illusive proof. > > We do NOT accept data culled from online projects such as Ancestry and > Newspaper Archives databases. > > I think the primary importance in US, Australian or Canadian records > is to help people find the Irish county or townland where their > ancestor was from. It is the location in Ireland that is the usual > sticking point in Irish research. > If the Emigrant Savings Bank data is coming from microfilm or other > source not on the internet already, then we will be glad to accept the > records. > Our primary mission is to preserve Irish Records which people from > America may have in their possession. There is a dearth of Records > created in Ireland. Many people find church records to be expensive to > search out. Census for instance is virtually non-existent before > 1901. > Hope this helps clarify some. > Christina > =================================== > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 1:46 PM, <MizScarlettNY@aol.com> wrote: > > Some of you may be unaware of Christina HUNT's email [below] where she > seeks > > to gather, then post, exact places of origin in Ireland, for Irish who > > immigrated to the United States. > > > > FYI, I was in touch with her several times when this project was > extending > > to include Irish in the USA. She will not accept records from Emigrant > > Savings Bank, where the account holder may have specified their home > > townland in Ireland. She will not accept photos of American headstones, > or > > death/marriage/birth certificates that merely cite the place of birth as > > Ireland. > > > > I attempted to tell her that by starting with the country of origin, > > eventually others may know the specific townland's name. She would not > > agree to this. I have yet to ask her about Birth Certificates acquired > in > > Ireland. > > > > If you have anything appropriate to submit to Christina's hunt, please > > forward to her. > > > > Then again, if you have any opinion about how this project is collecting > > data, please email Christina HUNT at chrisnina@gmail.com. > > > > Barb > > NYC Researcher > > | Some of you may be unaware of Christina HUNT's email [below] where > | she seeks to gather, then post, exact places of origin in Ireland, > | for Irish who immigrated to the United States. > | > | FYI, I was in touch with her several times when this project was > | extending to include Irish in the USA. She will not accept records > | from Emigrant Savings Bank, where the account holder may have > | specified their home townland in Ireland. She will not accept > | photos of American headstones, or death/marriage/birth certificates > | that merely cite the place of birth as Ireland. > | > | I attempted to tell her that by starting with the country of > | origin, eventually others may know the specific townland's name. > | She would not agree to this. I have yet to ask her about Birth > | Certificates acquired in Ireland. > | > | If you have anything appropriate to submit to Christina's hunt, > | please forward to her. > | > | Then again, if you have any opinion about how this project is > | collecting data, please email Christina HUNT at chrisnina@gmail.com. > | > | Barb > | NYC Researcher