Hi Barb, You have given others so much good advice on how to track down marriage information I wonder if you can help me as well to find some "missing" great-aunts. I am trying to locate marriages for my grandfather's two sisters, Bridget Young and Ellen Young, Ellen's family nickname was "Alice" though I haven't a clue why. Bridget Young was working as a servant in NYC in 1905 when her sister Ellen arrived through Ellis Island. I have not found when or where Bridget arrived. Then they both vanish! >From letters sent to their sister-in-law in Ireland by another sister in the 1950's I know they both married, I presume in NYC or one of the boroughs, but again don't have a clue as to when or to whom. The letters stated Bridget died in childbirth either in the late 1930's or early 1940's, no mention of her spouse or what happened to her 4 children and her sister Ellen, known as Alice was married and living in New York (no address) and also had three children. In my grandfather's obituary it mentions his sister Mrs. Patrick Cody was still alive in 1961, but with no mention of any other useful details and anyone that could tell me where that information came from is deceased. I have located Patrick F. Cody with wife Alice M. and their children in the U.S. Census for 1920 and 1930, but I am not sure they are MY relatives because her ages and immigration dates don't match facts that I am sure of for birth date and immigration year. Also the 1930 Census has them as the parents of 6 children, but her sister had only mentioned that she had 3 or 4 in the 1950s letter, though in the Census her 1st born child, a girl, has the same 1st name as her deceased mother (Johanna). In the 1920 Census they lived at 794 Madison St., Brooklyn, Kings County. In the 1930 Census they lived at 12 Newton Place, Hempstead, Nassau County. In both Census Patrick was listed as a bank guard at a "trust company." Any suggestions of where to look for their marriages and deaths, etc., how to look, how I figure out if these are really my family or just coincidentally people with the same names, would be most appreciated. These sisters have been a "brick wall" for me for some time so all suggestions are welcome. Thanks. Maryann -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MizScarlettNY@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:41 PM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Miz-nomers Hi Toni from Elmira, With all good humor, every time I said I lived in Ossining, folks only knew it for the prison connection. Elmira has that same ring, y'know? Anyway, Marriage Licenses, of the bygone era were required from 1908 to 1937. They are on file at the NYC Municipal Archives, 31 Chambers Street, and a very worthwhile search for those of Irish heritage. These were applied for pre-nuptially, and are still required to be married anywhere in New York State. Barb NYC Researcher > I would like to know when NYS began to require a license for marriage. > I went all over looking for a license application only to find out that in > 1894 a license wasn't required here in NY ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maryann, I found a Marriage for Patrick Cody & Alice Young?in Index at www.germangenealogygroup.com? Married June 1, 1913? Manhattan Certificate #12937. Perhaps Bridget was a witness and possibly married at the time to give you a clue about her. I will be going to the archives in about 6 weeks and I could check this for you then. Also, if you give me parents names, approx. dates of birth , and where they came from in Ireland, I will try to see what I can find for you. My e-mail is Mgundac102@AOL.com. Peg Gundacker -----Original Message----- From: Maryann C. Arnold <marnold@Princeton.EDU> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com; mizscarlettNY@aol.com Sent: Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:44 pm Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Need some advice on finding marriage information Hi Barb, You have given others so much good advice on how to track down marriage information I wonder if you can help me as well to find some "missing" great-aunts. I am trying to locate marriages for my grandfather's two sisters, Bridget Young and Ellen Young, Ellen's family nickname was "Alice" though I haven't a clue why. Bridget Young was working as a servant in NYC in 1905 when her sister Ellen arrived through Ellis Island. I have not found when or where Bridget arrived. Then they both vanish! >From letters sent to their sister-in-law in Ireland by another sister in the 1950's I know they both married, I presume in NYC or one of the boroughs, but again don't have a clue as to when or to whom. The letters stated Bridget died in childbirth either in the late 1930's or early 1940's, no mention of her spouse or what happened to her 4 children and her sister Ellen, known as Alice was married and living in New York (no address) and also had three children. In my grandfather's obituary it mentions his sister Mrs. Patrick Cody was still alive in 1961, but with no mention of any other useful details and anyone that could tell me where that information came from is deceased. I have located Patrick F. Cody with wife Alice M. and their children in the U.S. Census for 1920 and 1930, but I am not sure they are MY relatives because her ages and immigration dates don't match facts that I am sure of for birth date and immigration year. Also the 1930 Census has them as the parents of 6 children, but her sister had only mentioned that she had 3 or 4 in the 1950s letter, though in the Census her 1st born child, a girl, has the same 1st name as her deceased mother (Johanna). In the 1920 Census they lived at 794 Madison St., Brooklyn, Kings County. In the 1930 Census they lived at 12 Newton Place, Hempstead, Nassau County. In both Census Patrick was listed as a bank guard at a "trust company." Any suggestions of where to look for their marriages and deaths, etc., how to look, how I figure out if these are really my family or just coincidentally people with the same names, would be most appreciated. These sisters have been a "brick wall" for me for some time so all suggestions are welcome. Thanks. Maryann -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of MizScarlettNY@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:41 PM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Miz-nomers Hi Toni from Elmira, With all good humor, every time I said I lived in Ossining, folks only knew it for the prison connection. Elmira has that same ring, y'know? Anyway, Marriage Licenses, of the bygone era were required from 1908 to 1937. They are on file at the NYC Municipal Archives, 31 Chambers Street, and a very worthwhile search for those of Irish heritage. These were applied for pre-nuptially, and are still required to be married anywhere in New York State. Barb NYC Researcher > I would like to know when NYS began to require a license for marriage. > I went all over looking for a license application only to find out that in > 1894 a license wasn't required here in NY ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message