What year was Alice supposed to have been born? Just looking at the 1930 census, I do see some discrepancies: 1. the eldest daughter is 16. Alice (mother) is listed aged 38, married at 24. This would mean she was only married for 14 years. Second, Patrick is listed as having it been 17 years from his marriage date. Don't put too much credence to this. There were always dates recorded wrong, etc. You do of course need proof, but as there are not any other "Ellen" or "Alice" Cody's (that I found), this is probably your's. By the 1950's, several of her children could have died. I'm not sure about this time period, but for any earlier, I've found it very common for deceased children to receive no mention. And in at least one case, a child who was still very much alive was omitted from his mother's obituary (his sister was included) but it was only when his father died several years later, and both children were included with residence's listed, did I realize he was still alive. I haven't done much research in NY, but I would assume it's like PA. In that case, I would suggest you first check the county courthouses in/around NY to see if you can find marriage certificates for these two sisters. That seems to me to be your best bet. Katie > Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:44:03 -0400 > From: marnold@princeton.edu > To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com; mizscarlettNY@aol.com > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Need some advice on finding marriage information > > Hi Barb, > > You have given others so much good advice on how to track down marriage > information I wonder if you can help me as well to find some "missing" > great-aunts. > > I am trying to locate marriages for my grandfather's two sisters, > Bridget Young and Ellen Young, Ellen's family nickname was "Alice" > though I haven't a clue why. > > Bridget Young was working as a servant in NYC in 1905 when her sister > Ellen arrived through Ellis Island. I have not found when or where > Bridget arrived. Then they both vanish! > > >From letters sent to their sister-in-law in Ireland by another sister in > the 1950's I know they both married, I presume in NYC or one of the > boroughs, but again don't have a clue as to when or to whom. The > letters stated Bridget died in childbirth either in the late 1930's or > early 1940's, no mention of her spouse or what happened to her 4 > children and her sister Ellen, known as Alice was married and living in > New York (no address) and also had three children. > > In my grandfather's obituary it mentions his sister Mrs. Patrick Cody > was still alive in 1961, but with no mention of any other useful details > and anyone that could tell me where that information came from is > deceased. > > I have located Patrick F. Cody with wife Alice M. and their children in > the U.S. Census for 1920 and 1930, but I am not sure they are MY > relatives because her ages and immigration dates don't match facts that > I am sure of for birth date and immigration year. Also the 1930 Census > has them as the parents of 6 children, but her sister had only mentioned > that she had 3 or 4 in the 1950s letter, though in the Census her 1st > born child, a girl, has the same 1st name as her deceased mother > (Johanna). > > In the 1920 Census they lived at 794 Madison St., Brooklyn, Kings > County. > In the 1930 Census they lived at 12 Newton Place, Hempstead, Nassau > County. > In both Census Patrick was listed as a bank guard at a "trust company." > > Any suggestions of where to look for their marriages and deaths, etc., > how to look, how I figure out if these are really my family or just > coincidentally people with the same names, would be most appreciated. > These sisters have been a "brick wall" for me for some time so all > suggestions are welcome. > > Thanks. > > Maryann > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > MizScarlettNY@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:41 PM > To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Miz-nomers > > Hi Toni from Elmira, > > With all good humor, every time I said I lived in Ossining, folks only > knew > it for the prison connection. Elmira has that same ring, y'know? > > Anyway, Marriage Licenses, of the bygone era were required from 1908 to > 1937. They are on file at the NYC Municipal Archives, 31 Chambers > Street, and > a very worthwhile search for those of Irish heritage. These were > applied > for pre-nuptially, > and are still required to be married anywhere in New York State. > > Barb > NYC Researcher > > > I would like to know when NYS began to require a license for > marriage. > > I went all over looking for a license application only to find out > that in > > 1894 a license wasn't required here in NY > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you. http://www.bing.com/cashback?form=MSHYCB&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MSHYCB_BackToSchool_Cashback_BTSCashback_1x1