My great grandparents Jeremiah Murphy & Mary Crowley,both Irish immigrants,were married in 1875 at St. Elizabeth's Church in New York City. I did a Google search and found 2 possibilities- there is 1 St Elizabeth's located at 211 E 83rd St and another at 208 Wadsworth Ave at 187th St. The later did apparently exist in 1875 but couldn't find out if the church on 87th St was also in existence at that time period. Does anyone know of these churches? Since both are Catholic Churches I assume there was a large population of Irish who lived in the community around both churches.Can anyone confirm my assumption? I also found that there was a woman Elizabeth Ann Bayley Seton who was born in NYC and made a Saint and wondered if both of these St Elizabeth churches were named after her.Does anyone know? Noreen Maloney LaTour

Hi Noreen, According to CATHOLIC TELEPHONE GUIDE 2006 / 2007: A DIRECTORY OF CATHOLIC CHURCHES, SCHOOLS AND ORGANIZATION IN TH METROPOLITAN AREA, 72nd Annual Edition (New Rochelle, NY: The Catholic News Pub. Co., 2006): -- St. Elizabeth, 268 Wadsworth Ave. (West of 187th St.), New York, NY 10033 was established in 1869. -- St. Elizabeth of Hungary, 211 East 83rd St. (East of 3rd Ave.), New York, NY 10028 was established in 1891. Your 1875 marriage, then, would have been at St. E's on Wadsworth. Both are much too early to refer to Elizabeth Ann Seton -- the first American-born saint, canonized 1975 (and always officially referred to by her full name). The St. Elizabeth to whom the church was dedicated is from the Bible -- Mary's cousin and the mother of John the Baptist. Guessing purely by the name, I'd guess the original congregants at the 83rd St. St. E's would more likely be Hungarian than Irish. There were Irish in various neighborhoods (in various boroughs) at various times. In Manhattan, one of the most famous neighborhoods was Five Points, where a lot of Famine Irish emigrants settled. Hope that helps. Claire K. On Nov 8, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Noreen LaTour wrote: > My great grandparents ...married in 1875 at St. Elizabeth's Church in New York City. > > ...Google...found 2 possibilities- ...St Elizabeth's > located at 211 E 83rd St and another at 208 Wadsworth Ave at 187th St. The > later did apparently exist in 1875 but couldn't find out if the church on > 87th St was also in existence at that time period. ...I assume there was a large population of > Irish who lived in the community around both churches.Can anyone confirm my > assumption? > > I also found that there was a woman Elizabeth Ann Bayley Seton who was born > in NYC and made a Saint and wondered if both of these St Elizabeth churches > were named after her.Does anyone know? > > Noreen Maloney LaTour