Third time trying to post. Here's hoping it gets through to you on your personal email. Claire K. Begin forwarded message: > From: Claire K <seekay@comcast.net> > Date: November 21, 2010 11:48:59 AM EST > To: NY Irish <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] McArdle Brooklyn > > Hi Kevin, > > GermanGenealogyGroup.com has a NYC Grooms Record Index that includes Brooklyn (Kings Co.) Grooms from 1864 to 1907, Manhattan (New York Co.) Grooms from 1866 to 1907, Richmond (Staten Island) Grooms from 1898 to 1907, and New York City Grooms (all 5 boroughs, including Brooklyn), from 1908 to 1937. > > Groom's index entries for Kings Co. only, supplemented with Bride info (looking for both marriages): > > McArdle Patrick May 9 1872 Kings 800 - Bride Alice O'Donnell > McArdle Patrick Apr 19 1934 Kings 5645 - Bride Birdie Quinn > McArdle Patrick Jul 14 1936 Kings 12450 - Bride Lucy Robillard > McArdle Patrick J Sep 3 1924 Kings 12137 - not available online > > As you can see, none seem to match either or Patrick's marriages: to Anna (before 1900) or to Margaret (between 1900 and 1910), so I moved the search to Manhattan and found: > > McArdle Patrick Feb 18 1895 Manhattan 2855 - Bride Sarah McLeod > McArdle Patrick Jan 10 1883 Manhattan 22541 - Bride Ann Stanton > McArdle Patrick May 24 1870 Manhattan 495 - Bride Catharine Nash > McArdle Patrick Oct 21 1896 Manhattan 16126 - Bride Margaret Connell > McArdle Patrick Jan 24 1897 Manhattan 1412 - Bride Ann Donnelly > McArdle Patrick Jul 5 1899 Manhattan 10640 - Bride Ellen Coyle > McArdle Patrick Nov 12 1905 Manhattan 24779 - Bride Catherine Gardiner > McArdle Patrick Jul 18 1908 Manhattan 13253 - Bride Anna McArdle > McArdle Patrick Dec 26 1927 Manhattan 284 - Bride Anna Crozier > McArdle Patrick Apr 23 1923 Manhattan 15600 - not available online > > As you can see, there are two possible matches for Patrick and Ann before 1900 -- which is the more likely depends on their ages (I assume your info comes from censuses? if so, there should be more clues in the census -- years married, age of first child, year of emigration, etc., that might help you decide if either of these Patrick and Ann marriages are a likely match). > > Moving the search to Queens, I found what looks like Patrick's second marriage, though the date is later than you specified: > > McArdle Patrick Apr 20 1917 Queens 784 - Bride Margaret McCauran > > Might the Patrick McA married to Margaret McC/G be a different couple than the Patrick and Margaret you're looking for? It all depends on what you base your knowledge of "your" Margaret's maiden name. > > You might want to go through the birth and death indexes on the same site to see if you can find more details on the McArdle family you're searching (birth of the kids, death of the first wife, etc.). > > You can order certs online (and can pay be credit card, to avoid the foreign currency issue) from a link on http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/death.shtml > (it looks like the "by mail" option on the same page only allows for payment by check or money order). > > The list of what the archives has (which is more years than the GemanGenealogyGroup has yet indexed) is here: > http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/holdings.shtml > along with info on what you can and cannot request a search in > > Note that there are lots of other resources available, but it would help other listers to fill in gaps if we knew WHERE in Brooklyn the family lived -- some NYC resources are very specific to neighborhoods -- so be sure to give as many details as you have when you reply. > > Hope this is enough to get you started. > > Good luck! > > Claire K. > > > > On Nov 21, 2010, at 7:37 AM, Kevin Mccormack wrote: > >> ..... I have Patrick McArdle in 1900 married to Anna (she dies) and from 1910 -1930 married to Margaret with children incl twins John and Peter. (1908)...I believe Margaret to be Margaret McGauran...they lived in Brooklyn. >> >> What Id like to obtain is a marriage or death record of Patrick and/or Margaret too....any avenue that could give me information. >> ...to help me gain records further back here in Ireland regarding the couple. > >> ...( can NY records/library info be accessed inter state?) >> >> Best regards. >> Slán, Kevin. >> Co Cork, Ireland. > >