Add all that to the criminalization of teaching the Irish to read and write and what do you have? A world power. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:26 PM, <MizScarlettNY@aol.com> wrote: > Did you watch last Wednesday evening's "Faces of America," hosted by Henry > Louis Gates, Jr.? [Yes, Dr. Gates is an exceptional author and scholar, but > in this program he wears the hat of host, not genealogical researcher.] > > I'm referring to the section pertaining to the Irish Catholic genealogy of > political satirist (and devilishly handsome) Stephen Colbert. Some may know > him from the television program "The Colbert Report." > > Although my personal study of Irish history predominantly emanates from > books, museums, and archival repositories, lately its been enhanced by some > rich TV programming. > > This was the first time that I heard anyone publicly elucidate a documented > list of pound upon pound of food resources that the English exported, > congruently with Irish Catholics starving to death. Starving to death. > > This fact is one of the reasons I personally object to perpetuating the > misnomer today of the term "famine," in the context of Irish Catholics > circa > 1845. [The term famine denotes a near complete loss of crops and animal > sources of food, initiated by some act of nature, as resulted from h > Hurricane > Katrina.] It would be as politely and inaccurately naming of the > atrocities of > Jewish concentration camps, something as non descriptio as The Transported > Jewish. > > The first time I learned of English exportation of Irish-grown foodstuff > and Irish-raised meats, was at New York City's Hunger Memorial, on Vesey > Street in south western Manhattan. There displayed are excerpts from > primary > sources, and quotes from eyewitnesses, who headlined the human disregard > and > abuse of Irish Catholics, similar to the castration of Jewish life some > hundred > years later. > > A trip to Strokestown, Ireland and a tour of "The Famine Museum," increased > my loyalty to my beloved, brave Irish Catholic ancestors. The turning > point occurred > when I viewed two pieces of ephemera: the so called soup pot, and a car > jack like tool, that was specifically invented to break the internal > framing of > Irish homes, so that those evicted had no sheltering home. > > 'Tis true, Irish there now are not keen on discussing that era of their > history, nor continuing to lay blame at the foot of that Pilate of Irish > history. > > "What's in a name?" Plenty. > > Barb > NYC Researcher > IHR, GGG > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Patricia A. Farrell, Ph.D. How to Be Your Own Therapist www.drfarrell.net 201-676-0478 This email, and any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended addressee, nor authorized to receive for the intended addressee, you are hereby notified that you may not use, copy, disclose or distribute to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received this message in error, please immediately delete the message
To those of us that have both Irish and English ancestry, this is a very difficult and sad thing to wrestle with. Robin Galage Of Irish and English ancestry -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Farrell Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 10:24 PM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Irish Diaspora & "Faces of America" Add all that to the criminalization of teaching the Irish to read and write and what do you have? A world power. On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:26 PM, <MizScarlettNY@aol.com> wrote: > Did you watch last Wednesday evening's "Faces of America," hosted by Henry > Louis Gates, Jr.? [Yes, Dr. Gates is an exceptional author and scholar, but > in this program he wears the hat of host, not genealogical researcher.] > > I'm referring to the section pertaining to the Irish Catholic genealogy of > political satirist (and devilishly handsome) Stephen Colbert. Some may know > him from the television program "The Colbert Report." > > Although my personal study of Irish history predominantly emanates from > books, museums, and archival repositories, lately its been enhanced by some > rich TV programming. > > This was the first time that I heard anyone publicly elucidate a documented > list of pound upon pound of food resources that the English exported, > congruently with Irish Catholics starving to death. Starving to death. > > This fact is one of the reasons I personally object to perpetuating the > misnomer today of the term "famine," in the context of Irish Catholics > circa > 1845. [The term famine denotes a near complete loss of crops and animal > sources of food, initiated by some act of nature, as resulted from h > Hurricane > Katrina.] It would be as politely and inaccurately naming of the > atrocities of > Jewish concentration camps, something as non descriptio as The Transported > Jewish. > > The first time I learned of English exportation of Irish-grown foodstuff > and Irish-raised meats, was at New York City's Hunger Memorial, on Vesey > Street in south western Manhattan. There displayed are excerpts from > primary > sources, and quotes from eyewitnesses, who headlined the human disregard > and > abuse of Irish Catholics, similar to the castration of Jewish life some > hundred > years later. > > A trip to Strokestown, Ireland and a tour of "The Famine Museum," increased > my loyalty to my beloved, brave Irish Catholic ancestors. The turning > point occurred > when I viewed two pieces of ephemera: the so called soup pot, and a car > jack like tool, that was specifically invented to break the internal > framing of > Irish homes, so that those evicted had no sheltering home. > > 'Tis true, Irish there now are not keen on discussing that era of their > history, nor continuing to lay blame at the foot of that Pilate of Irish > history. > > "What's in a name?" Plenty. > > Barb > NYC Researcher > IHR, GGG > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Patricia A. Farrell, Ph.D. How to Be Your Own Therapist www.drfarrell.net 201-676-0478 This email, and any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended addressee, nor authorized to receive for the intended addressee, you are hereby notified that you may not use, copy, disclose or distribute to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received this message in error, please immediately delete the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
A Robin a chara / Dear Robin, Please don't be upset. None of us are responsible for the sins of our ancestors. Nor even for their virtues. Le gach dea-ghuí / Best, Gearóid / Jerry -------------- Original message from "Robin Galage" <rmgalage@msn.com>: -------------- > To those of us that have both Irish and English ancestry, this is a very > difficult and sad thing to wrestle with. > > Robin Galage > Of Irish and English ancestry > > -----Original Message----- > From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Patricia Farrell > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 10:24 PM > To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Irish Diaspora & "Faces of America" > > Add all that to the criminalization of teaching the Irish to read and write > and what do you have? A world power. > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 8:26 PM, wrote: > > > Did you watch last Wednesday evening's "Faces of America," hosted by Henry > > Louis Gates, Jr.? [Yes, Dr. Gates is an exceptional author and scholar, > but > > in this program he wears the hat of host, not genealogical researcher.] > > > > I'm referring to the section pertaining to the Irish Catholic genealogy of > > political satirist (and devilishly handsome) Stephen Colbert. Some may > know > > him from the television program "The Colbert Report." > > > > Although my personal study of Irish history predominantly emanates from > > books, museums, and archival repositories, lately its been enhanced by > some > > rich TV programming. > > > > This was the first time that I heard anyone publicly elucidate a > documented > > list of pound upon pound of food resources that the English exported, > > congruently with Irish Catholics starving to death. Starving to death. > > > > This fact is one of the reasons I personally object to perpetuating the > > misnomer today of the term "famine," in the context of Irish Catholics > > circa > > 1845. [The term famine denotes a near complete loss of crops and animal > > sources of food, initiated by some act of nature, as resulted from h > > Hurricane > > Katrina.] It would be as politely and inaccurately naming of the > > atrocities of > > Jewish concentration camps, something as non descriptio as The Transported > > Jewish. > > > > The first time I learned of English exportation of Irish-grown foodstuff > > and Irish-raised meats, was at New York City's Hunger Memorial, on Vesey > > Street in south western Manhattan. There displayed are excerpts from > > primary > > sources, and quotes from eyewitnesses, who headlined the human disregard > > and > > abuse of Irish Catholics, similar to the castration of Jewish life some > > hundred > > years later. > > > > A trip to Strokestown, Ireland and a tour of "The Famine Museum," > increased > > my loyalty to my beloved, brave Irish Catholic ancestors. The turning > > point occurred > > when I viewed two pieces of ephemera: the so called soup pot, and a car > > jack like tool, that was specifically invented to break the internal > > framing of > > Irish homes, so that those evicted had no sheltering home. > > > > 'Tis true, Irish there now are not keen on discussing that era of their > > history, nor continuing to lay blame at the foot of that Pilate of Irish > > history. > > > > "What's in a name?" Plenty. > > > > Barb > > NYC Researcher > > IHR, GGG > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Patricia A. Farrell, Ph.D. > How to Be Your Own Therapist > www.drfarrell.net > 201-676-0478 > > > This email, and any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended > solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If > you are not the intended addressee, nor authorized to receive for the > intended addressee, you are hereby notified that you may not use, copy, > disclose or distribute to anyone the message or any information contained in > the message. If you have received this message in error, please immediately > delete the message > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add > your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message