Does anyone know where to find, on the internet, passenger lists from Co Derry Ireland and Glascoe Scotland? I am looking for both arrivals and departures. Thanks
Glasgow and Derry have been, in recent years (20th century? also late 19th?), one of multiple departure ports on a particular sailing -- e.g., a ship might board passengers at Glasgow, Liverpool, and Cork, and then arrive in, e.g., NYC. If you're looking for a ship that came into either NYC or other Atlantic coast US ports (including smaller ports in NYS), you would find them on the relevant NARA films (available at NARA or from the LDS), Ancestry databases, ISTG lists, etc. -- it doesn't matter where they left from, the US lists are arranged by where they arrived. As for ships leaving NYC or NYS for Derry and Glasgow, presumably any lists that survive would be in Ireland or Scotland, assuming those were the final destinations. As far as I know, the only passenger lists for the UK that are online are the English lists on findmypast. But keep in mind that, in the early days (up to early/mid 19th century?? certainly during the Great Famine), there were few passenger ships going TO Ireland -- the ships that brought immigrants to the US were usually cargo ships that had brought goods on the US-Europe leg. Maybe someone can give you a clearer answer if you let us know what time period you're interested in? No doubt someone can correct me on the various dates / multi-stop procedures. I know I've seen multiple embarkation ports on an arrival manifest; I'm not so sure I've seen multiple arrival ports and, if multiple stops on arrival did happen, whether the lists would have stayed with the ship (and so be at the final port) or would have been broken out at each port. Hope that helps a bit... Claire K. On Jun 16, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Pat O'Fallon wrote: > Does anyone know where to find, on the internet, passenger lists from Co Derry Ireland and Glascoe Scotland? I am looking for both arrivals and departures. Thanks
Claire's answer is excellent but you may want to add the Canadian records to your search. I have seen a bunch of Irish, particularly from the western and northern ports entering North America via the St Lawrence River. The Brits were trying to populate Canada by encouraging people to make the voyage. The south shore of the St Lawrence and Lake Ontario & Erie is NY State for a significant distance. Some of those headed south in staed of staying in Canada. John -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Claire K Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 4:49 PM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Cc: ny-irish-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Scotland/Ireland Ports Glasgow and Derry have been, in recent years (20th century? also late 19th?), one of multiple departure ports on a particular sailing -- e.g., a ship might board passengers at Glasgow, Liverpool, and Cork, and then arrive in, e.g., NYC. If you're looking for a ship that came into either NYC or other Atlantic coast US ports (including smaller ports in NYS), you would find them on the relevant NARA films (available at NARA or from the LDS), Ancestry databases, ISTG lists, etc. -- it doesn't matter where they left from, the US lists are arranged by where they arrived. As for ships leaving NYC or NYS for Derry and Glasgow, presumably any lists that survive would be in Ireland or Scotland, assuming those were the final destinations. As far as I know, the only passenger lists for the UK that are online are the English lists on findmypast. But keep in mind that, in the early days (up to early/mid 19th century?? certainly during the Great Famine), there were few passenger ships going TO Ireland -- the ships that brought immigrants to the US were usually cargo ships that had brought goods on the US-Europe leg. Maybe someone can give you a clearer answer if you let us know what time period you're interested in? No doubt someone can correct me on the various dates / multi-stop procedures. I know I've seen multiple embarkation ports on an arrival manifest; I'm not so sure I've seen multiple arrival ports and, if multiple stops on arrival did happen, whether the lists would have stayed with the ship (and so be at the final port) or would have been broken out at each port. Hope that helps a bit... Claire K. On Jun 16, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Pat O'Fallon wrote: > Does anyone know where to find, on the internet, passenger lists from Co Derry Ireland and Glascoe Scotland? I am looking for both arrivals and departures. Thanks ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message