Hi Fern. Sorry it's taken me a bit to get to this, but I wanted to take a look at some of the records first. The 1865 state census for the Janes family shows four of the five children listed as being born in Richmond Co. possibly in Castleton where the census was taken. The approximate birth dates for these children are 1853, 1858, 1860 & 1864 (depending on the month they were born in), which would lead me to think that the family was in Richmond Co. at the time of the 1860 census. But, they are nowhere to be found in that census. I used all the tricks I could think of (some that Barb listed and a few others), but they just don't show up. So I looked up some of their neighbors who were nearby to them in 1865. I found the Steers family and the Clute family living near each other in 1860, but no sign of the Janes family. However, there is a dwelling just after the Clutes listed as 'unoccupied'. It's possible that the family lived in that 'unoccupied' dwelling, but weren't home at the time of the census. I don't know if 'unoccupied' means no one is actually living there, or if it just means that no one was home at that time and the census taker never went back. One other thing I wanted to mention. There are five towns in Richmond Co. in the 1860 census. It's always possible they were in one of the other four and not in Castleton in 1860. I wish I could have been of more help to you. Maybe someone else on the List would have some other ideas for you. Terry -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of iamfernie22 via Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2016 3:43 PM Hi, My g,g-grandfather, Francis Janes, lived at 182 Madison St, N. Y. C in 1851 and 1854 according to naturalization records. I can't find him in censuses until the 1865 N. Y. State census as Frank Geans living on Staten Island, which is where the family stayed. I am willing to look page by page in the 1860 census if I knew how to locate the lower East Side area to barrow things down a bit. I realize he and the family might have been missed given the tenement situation. Thank you, Fern