Pat, is that the same group where you got those great Troy Baptismal records from? I think you had a book that they put out. I'm not sure about that. Terry -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Connors via Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 12:52 PM To: mizscarlettny; ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] FREE SEARCH>American Ancestors Thanks, Barb American Ancestors of New England Historic Genealogical Society > is offering guest users full access to ALL of their online records > from April 6th to April 14th. > I have not been on this site in years, I will definitely check it out. It used to be a great resource. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA

American Ancestors of New England Historic Genealogical Society is offering guest users full access to ALL of their online records from April 6th to April 14th. Some records pertain to areas outside of the traditional New England area. Just register without a credit card. Check it out> http://www.americanancestors.org/free-billion?utm_source=Billions+March+Promo&utm_campaign=Guest+Users+Billions&utm_medium=email Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

Thanks, Barb American Ancestors of New England Historic Genealogical Society > is offering guest users full access to ALL of their online records from > April 6th to April 14th. > I have not been on this site in years, I will definitely check it out. It used to be a great resource. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com nymets22@gmail.com

New Yorkers statewide are complaining about the state's archaic, deadlines for voter registration. They say that the Empire State has registration cut off dates much earlier than other states. Some NYC voters are finding that their names are missing from registered voters lists and contacting their county boards. Since the upcoming Presidential primary is April 17th, this is the time to check your voter status. Here is a list of all NY State Boards of Elections, by county. http://www.elections.ny.gov/CountyBoards.html Recently I found an interactive city-wide map of voting results from the last presidential primary. I was shocked to see that the Upper East Side of Manhattan had the largest number of voters = 24%. The majority of sections has single digit figures. FYI Only registered Democrats and Republicans can vote on these primaries. Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

I have just updated the County Leix Surname Registry on my website: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Leix/ If you submitted a name, please check your entry for accuracy. If I have made a mistake or your data has changed, please email me using directions at the bottom of the surname registry page and I will make the corrections with my next update of the site. Also, if you have changed your email address, remember to let me know so I can change it when I do my next update (2-4 times a year). I cannot tell you enough times about how I get emails from possible connections looking for a new email address for one that no longer works. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com nymets22@gmail.com

Dear Friends, Please excuse this off-topic post. When I was in Ireland, my daughter and I purchased fragrances from our favorite place in Ireland, the Burren Perfumery in County Clare. http://www.burrenperfumery.com/ Last month I ordered "Autumn Harvest" 100ml for my daughter instead of "Summer Harvest." If anyone is interested in the autumn version, please email me off list. Thanks very much, Barb

I have just updated the County Leitrim Surname Registry on my website: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Leitrim/ If you submitted a name, please check your entry for accuracy. If I have made a mistake or your data has changed, please email me using directions at the bottom of the surname registry page and I will make the corrections with my next update of the site. Also, if you have changed your email address, remember to let me know so I can change it when I do my next update (2-4 times a year). I cannot tell you enough times about how I get emails from possible connections looking for a new email address for one that no longer works. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com nymets22@gmail.com

Getcher popcorn ready!!! Tonight's a double hitter, same station> PBS = 28 Cablevision in Metro NYC 9pm eastern: "Who Do You think You Are?" [Possible star "Mr. Big"] 10pm eastern: "Long Lost Family" I'm getting mixed messages about names of stars, topics and countries researched. So, lots of surprises in store tonight. Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

What country did he come from, Fern? The propunciation may make a difference with the spelling. When in doubt, change the vowels in the surname. JANES= JUNES=JANIS etc Imagine the name written in script. Lot of loops. Try a wildcard search= J?ne? Barb -----Original Message----- From: iamfernie22 <iamfernie22@yahoo.com> To: mizscarlettny <mizscarlettny@aol.com>; ny-irish <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2016 3:43 pm Subject: Looking for enumeration ward #'s for 1850's Manhattan streets Hi, My g,g-grandfather, Francis Janes, lived at 182 Madison St, N. Y. C in 1851 and 1854 according to naturalization records. I can't find him in censuses until the 1865 N. Y. State census as Frank Geans living on Staten Island, which is where the family stayed. I am willing to look page by page in the 1860 census if I knew how to locate the lower East Side area to barrow things down a bit. I realize he and the family might have been missed given the tenement situation. Thank you, Fern Sent from my iPad > On Mar 16, 2016, at 5:12 PM, mizscarlettny via <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Thanks, Pat. Great and informative post. > > > Barb > > MizScarlettNY@aol.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Connors via <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> > To: ny-irish <ny-irish@rootsweb.com>; IRISH-AMERICAN <irish-american@rootsweb.com>; Irish-In-UK-L <Irish-In-UK-L@rootsweb.com>; can-ontario-irish <can-ontario-irish@rootsweb.com>; new-england-irish <new-england-irish@rootsweb.com>; ireland-roll-calls <ireland-roll-calls@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Mar 16, 2016 5:57 pm > Subject: [NY-IRISH] While you were away when the lists were down, > > I started to update the surname registries on my website. The following > lists were updated: > Albany County: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > County Armagh: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Armagh/ > County Clare: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/clare/ > Cornish American Mailing List: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/CornishAmerican/ > County Galway: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/galway/ > Hudson River Mailing List: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/HudsonRV/ > Ireland: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ > Louisburgh, County Mayo Mailing List: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Louisburgh/ > Irish in the UK Mailing List: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishUK/ > Irish American Mailing List: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > I still have many more to update so if you want to add or change any of > your data, now is the time to do so, see the instructions at the bottom of > the various Surname Registries. > > REMINDER: If you change your email, remember to make a new submission and > put "CHANGE" in the email. I will make the changes and/or additions when I > do my next update (a few times a year) > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > nymets22@gmail.com > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, My g,g-grandfather, Francis Janes, lived at 182 Madison St, N. Y. C in 1851 and 1854 according to naturalization records. I can't find him in censuses until the 1865 N. Y. State census as Frank Geans living on Staten Island, which is where the family stayed. I am willing to look page by page in the 1860 census if I knew how to locate the lower East Side area to barrow things down a bit. I realize he and the family might have been missed given the tenement situation. Thank you, Fern Sent from my iPad > On Mar 16, 2016, at 5:12 PM, mizscarlettny via <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Thanks, Pat. Great and informative post. > > > Barb > > MizScarlettNY@aol.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Connors via <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> > To: ny-irish <ny-irish@rootsweb.com>; IRISH-AMERICAN <irish-american@rootsweb.com>; Irish-In-UK-L <Irish-In-UK-L@rootsweb.com>; can-ontario-irish <can-ontario-irish@rootsweb.com>; new-england-irish <new-england-irish@rootsweb.com>; ireland-roll-calls <ireland-roll-calls@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Mar 16, 2016 5:57 pm > Subject: [NY-IRISH] While you were away when the lists were down, > > I started to update the surname registries on my website. The following > lists were updated: > Albany County: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ > County Armagh: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Armagh/ > County Clare: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/clare/ > Cornish American Mailing List: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/CornishAmerican/ > County Galway: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/galway/ > Hudson River Mailing List: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/HudsonRV/ > Ireland: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrelandList/ > Louisburgh, County Mayo Mailing List: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Louisburgh/ > Irish in the UK Mailing List: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishUK/ > Irish American Mailing List: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/IrishAmerican/ > > I still have many more to update so if you want to add or change any of > your data, now is the time to do so, see the instructions at the bottom of > the various Surname Registries. > > REMINDER: If you change your email, remember to make a new submission and > put "CHANGE" in the email. I will make the changes and/or additions when I > do my next update (a few times a year) > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > nymets22@gmail.com > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I just came across this post, about FREE access to Fold3's Civil War collection through April 15: https://blog.fold3.com/access-the-civil-war-collection-2/ The timing is perfect for me! Happy researching! Kathleen

I have just read on the Genealogy in Time online magazine that Find My Past is offering free access to their Irish records: http://www.findmypast.com/irish-parish-records Start exploring the records today for FREE, enjoy free access to 110 > million Irish records with a 14 day free trial. > Here are the records that they list that are free to see: Irish Army Census 1922 Ireland Diocesan and Prerogative Wills & Admistrations Indexes Irish Catholic Parish Registers Billion Graves Cemetery Index Ireland Census 1901 Ireland Census 1911 The Irish Catholic Parish Registers are wonderful and their results give you the link to the actual record on the Library of Ireland website. I have a 1 month subscription that ends tomorrow and once I got use to their program began to really love the access. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com nymets22@gmail.com

Getcher popcorn ready! NEW SEASON Sunday, April 4th "Who Do You Think You Are?" 9PM eastern Channel: TLC =The Learning Channel Focus: 6 celebs Barb

Thanks to Virginia for the heads up. In Metro NYC, at 10:30 pm on PBS [channel 13 here] 10:30 - 11:30pm >>> "1916 The Irish Rebellion: Part Two, The Insurrection." Securing German's support Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

Thanks so much, Virginia. To me, PBS is one of the most trustworthy sources. This whole "Easter 1916" topic has me by the throat. The more research I do, the more it upsets me. Of course I cheer for my ancestors' retrieval of rights taken away circa Cromwell, [religious freedom, formal education, property ownership, etc [[search Hedge Schools and English manorships]], but... l) The people aka the general potential voting population did not endorse the Easter 1916 Uprising. Livelihoods of the few were risked by judgment of a few. It was not put up for a vote of the populace, yet... 2) The leaders were bold politicos who risked their lives to reinstate privileges to the common, aka RC, populace, but... 3) Today's commemorative events appear *to me* as typical European ploys to extract and attract American dollars. This makes is a personal turn-off. Obviously the Easter Uprising of 1916 has a significant historical place in the lives of Irish Diaspora era peoples, especially Roman Catholics, but it feels that commemorations are a hyperbole, not of its impact, but of its superficial aspects. It's like memorializing the sensationalism of rebellion and war, versus confirming basic human rights, then profiteering from the exaggeration. Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: VLB via <vlbcfb@yahoo.com, PBS is showing a three-hour special on the Rising. It's called "1916, The Irish Rebellion". It is being shown tonight and several times over the next week. Times may vary on public TV stations in different areas. It is narrated by Liam Neeson and was sponsored by Notre Dame. It is also being shown on Irish TV on RTE and the BBC. It is a vast project with filming in many places.Google the title but it sounds as if it is not to be missed. Would enjoy hearing people's opinions after they have seen it. Virginia

PBS is showing a three-hour special on the Rising. It's called "1916, The Irish Rebellion".  It is being shown tonight and several times over the next week. Times may vary on public TV stations in different areas.                                It is narrated by Liam Neeson and was sponsored by Notre Dame.   It is also being shown on Irish TV on RTE and the BBC.  It is a vast project with filming in many places. Google the title but it sounds as if it is not to be missed.  Would enjoy hearing people's opinions after they have seen it.                                                         Virginia                                                                

Here are the latest additions to the Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives: CAVAN, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Annagh Cemetery - Old Drung Cemetery (CoI) (partial) Drung Old Cemetery (partial) http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/cavan/photos/tombstones/markers.htm DONEGAL, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Bundoran, St. Ninnidhs Graveyard (Left Side) Pt 2 http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/donegal/photos/tombstones/markers.htm DUBLIN, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Mt Jerome Cemetery - Parts 122-125 http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/mt-jerome-ndx.htm DUBLIN, Genealogy Archives - Vital Records Death Certs 1869 (updated) http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/deaths.htm FERMANAGH, Genealogy Archives - Church Records Marriages in Aghavea CoI 1815-1879 http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/fermanagh/church.htm LEITRIM, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Jamestown Abbey Graveyard http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/leitrim/photos/tombstones/markers.htm MAYO, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Addergoole Cemetery (Updated) Aughavale Old Cemetery (partial) Ballindine New Cemetery (McHUGHs) Ballynew, Castlebar Cemetery Cloghans Cemetery Crossboyne New Graveyard (WALSH) Crossboyne Old Graveyard (WALSH) Meelick Cemetery, Swinford St. Joseph's Church Graveyard, Ballindine (McHUGHs) Turlough Abbey Cemetery Turlough Church of Ireland http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/mayo/photos/tombstones/markers.htm MONAGHAN, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Carrickmaclim Headstones St. Patrick's Church Cemetery Ardragh Parish http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/photos/tombstones/markers.htm ROSCOMMON, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Taughmaconnell Cem (partial) Tibohine (CoI) Cemetery, Frenchpark, (Douglas HYDE) http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/roscommon/photos/tombstones/markers.htm SLIGO, Genealogy Archives - Headstones St. Mary's, Kilmacshalgan Headstones Sligo Cem - Middle Part, Section G Sligo Cem - Middle Part, Section K Sligo Cem - Middle Pt, Section J Sligo Cemetery - Old Part, Part 1 (A-Fe) http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/sligo/photos/tombstones/sligo-cem.htm Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ https://www.facebook.com/IrelandGenealogyProjects ===============================

Ah! It looks like this guy may have been a bounty jumper: https://spotlights.fold3.com/2013/07/15/bounty-jumping/ "Bounty jumpers were men who enlisted in the army to get the money offered for joining, then deserted before reaching the front lines." Still not sure whether he's mine, but at least now I have some context in which deserting after 3 days would make sense. On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 1:19 AM, Kathleen Scarlett O'Hara Naylor < kathleen.scarlett.ohara@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Is the age discrepancy a "typo"? Did he lie about his age? Was there an > incentive (perhaps financial?) to travel upstate and lie about your age to > join the Army, particularly if you were just going to desert three days > later? (Which Richard Toner did! Apparently to ensure that he wouldn't be > found in pension records, the 1890 Veterans Census, etc. so I'd never know > whether he was my 3x great-grandfather.) Were men financially compensated > for enlisting such that they might do so and then try to sneak away with > the cash? > >

Thanks all. It seems like it's definitely a possibility that my ancestor could have enlisted upstate even if he was from Brooklyn. So: My guy: 42-year-old (-ish) Irish-born painter named Richard Toner who lived in Brooklyn This guy: 24-year-old Irish-born painter named Richard Toner who enlisted at Utica Is the age discrepancy a "typo"? Did he lie about his age? Was there an incentive (perhaps financial?) to travel upstate and lie about your age to join the Army, particularly if you were just going to desert three days later? (Which Richard Toner did! Apparently to ensure that he wouldn't be found in pension records, the 1890 Veterans Census, etc. so I'd never know whether he was my 3x great-grandfather.) Were men financially compensated for enlisting such that they might do so and then try to sneak away with the cash? The letters "DM+DR" is written several times in the margins of this (NYS) record. I don't know what it means. This man's brief enlistment was in April, 1864. My Richard Toner was listed in the 1864 Brooklyn City Directory as a laborer, and enumerated in the 1865 NYS Census living in Brooklyn. He didn't have any living sons named Richard. A (not particularly extensive) search doesn't easily turn up any Richard Toners of the correct age living in NYS in either 1860 or 1865. I've come across other Richard Toners in the past, but none who was a painter. Any further insight? I keep wanting to think it's him, but seem to be jumping through a lot of mental hoops to make it plausible. Kathleen On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 12:28 AM, <mizscarlettny@aol.com> wrote: > > One did not have to enlist near home. Men often enlisted with brothers or > friends. Various regions offered enlistment bonuses as an enticement. These > proverbial "carrots" were not equal to each other. My g-grandfather from > NYC enlisted in Avon/Palmyra NY. Another thing. This was definitely a poor > man's war. > Any man could buy his way out of the war for $300. I have two brothers, > one served as a substitute for > a wealthier draftee, the other brother paid his $300. for a substitute. > > > If you're uncertain about the records you have, try to cross reference the > soldier. There are several free sites online and the information is not > always consistent. >

On March 29, 1973, the last American troops left Viet Nam. Some towns near me had ceremonies today honoring our Viet Nam veterans. So, here's to my friends Frank, Zak, Daniel, Joyce, Gail's hub and nameless others, today: Thank you for all that you sacrificed for our country. Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com