In celebration of its 40th Anniversary, the NYC Transit Museum folks are running *vintage* subway trains from from Brighton Beach today and tomorrow. WOW! Those interiors look so spacious back in the day when straphangers really hung onto straps! Check out details and photos here>>>> http://ny.curbed.com/2016/6/24/12027150/vintage-train-brighton-beach-transit-museum Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

The latest from the NYC Municipal Archives is the retirement of Tony some two weeks ago. He was my go-to guy and their most hands-on-knowledgeable staff member. And, and he is not being replaced...as if he could be! Last I knew, he was the only one who could navigate the physical building-lot book for folks to order WPA house photographs.* Since microfilm cabinets were shuffled around, Tony was the *only* one who knew what landed where, or at least could figure it out! The Archives already has a backlog of internet and mail orders. Add in summer vacations, and it's leaning toward a long, hot queuefor folks ordering certificates. So...who ya gonna call? Yours truly. One of my keeping-it-close-to-the-vest bits about Tony was that he grew up nearby the Archives. Right around the corner from my gg grandfather's SE-gar shop! Ohhhh the stories. Yup, Tony was dutifully at work when the World Trade Center was hit. Just name the street, the address, the park, bridge, building, post-1950, and Tony lived it. So here's to my buddy, Tony. May his trips to DisneyWorld be many. May his beers always be cold. May the whiff of some lady's perfume always signal him home. Until we meet again, I'll never mimic his, "Fugitabowtit." * HOUSE/BUILDING PHOTOS http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/photos/photos.shtml Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

Yesterday I viewed the Marriage License, not Marriage Certificate, for Marguerite R. McKenna. Access to the NYC Marriage Licenses has a new online presence, but it is incomplete. NYC Marriage Licenses were required pre-marriage from 1908-1951. The NYC Municipal Archives has copies from 1908-1930 and they are a goldmine. Here are the partial results.>>> Queens NYC Marriage License, 22 September 1916, #2370 B: Marguerite R. McKenna Father: Michael McKENNA; Mother: Kate KELLY G: George Michael DENNIGE Marriage performed by Herbert FARRELL, priest in Far Rockaway This is all the information that I have. Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

Yesterday I viewed the Marriage License, not Marriage Certificate, for Bernard McKenna. Access to the NYC Marriage Licenses has a new online presence, but it is incomplete. NYC Marriage Licenses were required pre-marriage from 1908-1951. The NYC Municipal Archives has copies from 1908-1930 and they are a goldmine. Here are the partial results.>>> Queens NYC Marriage License, 24 November 1916, #3014 Bernard McKENNA, age 25, of Jersey City NJ, born Scotland married; Railroad employee Father : James McKENNA; Mother: Catherine McCAFFREY; both born IRE Catherine McKENNA, of Flushing [Queens NYC]; weaver Parents: James McKENNA & Mary CONWAY This is all the information that I have. Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

Yesterday I viewed 4 Death Certificates in Manhattan for Mary HAMILL. These re the results.>>> 1. MANH DEATHS; 1926/Nov 27 # 29183 White female widowed. Age 60y. Died St. Vincent's Hostpital Born US & lived there for life. Parents: Lawrence BRANNIGER & Margaret CULLEN; both born IRE Buried: St. Raymond's 2. MANH DEATHS; 1929/Feb 5 # 4452 White female widowed. DOB 10 Sept 1857. Age 71y 5 mo 5 da. Born and lived in NYC. Parents born IRE: George & Margaret ROBINSON Buried: Holy Cross 3. MANH DEATHS; 1931/Nov 21 # 1931 White single female. Age 63y born U.S. Occupation: Cleaner & Dyer. Parents born IRE Patrick HAMILL & Catherine DONOHUE Buried: Calvary 4. MANH DEATHS; 1935/Nov 5 # 23319 White female widowed. Age 74y, Died at French [Cancer] Hospital*, 330 West 36th Street. Home: 408 W 53 St. Parents: Patrick KEENAN & Bridget FINEGAN * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Hospital_(Manhattan) I hope this helps someone connect with their ancestors. Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

Take a look at Tom Gregory's transcriptions of Olde New York City Directories, 1786 - 1833. *It's indispensable, especially when you're unsure of their ancestors' religious persuasion.* He extracted names of ministers and/or churches from LDS microfilms, whichever appeared. Often the ward number is included. http://longislandgenealogy.com/NYC_Churches.html Remember, in those days, New York City was essentially Manhattan Island. This Dave Rumsey map from 1835 notes existing churches on the left. This is an interactive map. http://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~214674~5501698:City-Of-New-York?sort=Pub_Date%2CPub_List_No_InitialSort?&qvq=q:City%3D%27New%2BYork%27%22%2B;sort:Pub_Date%2CPub_List_No_InitialSort;lc:RUMSEY~8~1&mi=33&trs=603 Peruse the list head to tail. You'll see which religions predominated. For example, in the early days, there are many Dutch Reformed Churches, and more African Churches than Catholic. These are the total listings for 1787, as fledgling America launched. 1787- FHL fiche 6052945 No listing of churches. No ministers listed thru "D" ingeneralalphabetical listing page 120 - has list of ministers - does notindicate what churchstructure preached at. "Ministers of the Gospel" Episcopal Church- Rev Dr Samuel Provoost, Bishop, Rev Mr. Beache, RevMr Moore United Lutheran Church- Dr John Christopher Kunzie Methodist Church- Rev Morrell & Rev Mr Cloud St Peter's Church- Rev John O' Brien Presbyterian Church- Rev Dr John Rodgers Reformed Dutch Church- Dr J H Livingston, Rev Dr William Linn German Church- Rev Mr Gross Scotch Presbyterian Church- Rev Dr John Mason Baptist Church- Rev Mr Foster Jewish Synagogue- Rev [sic] Gershom Seixas Catholic churches were first identified in 1833, when only 3 parishes existed. This, before the surge of Famine era immigrants. St Patrick's Cathedral, Dubois - Mott c Prince Christ Church, Varela - Ann n William St Peters, Levins - Barclay c Church PLEASE NOTE: You might find early19th century births and marriages through Google books and by searching by name of minister. Often traveling ministers kept logs of marriages that they performed. The Brooklyn homepage has marriage listing, even for NYC, as early as 1820.>>>http://bklyn-genealogy-info.stevemorse.org/Marriage/index.html Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

Landed Estates, Tipperary http://catalogue.nli.ie/Search/Results?lookfor=landed+estates%2C+Tipperary&type=Subject&submit=FIND Landed Estates, Galway http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie/ The Landed Estates Database provides a comprehensive and integrated resource guide to landed estates and historic houses in Connacht and Munster, c. 1700-1914. The aim of this guide is to assist and support researchers working on the social, economic, political and cultural history of Connacht and Munster from c.1700 to 1914. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com nymets22@gmail.com

A neat list of NYC Methodist Marriage locations>>> https://familysearch.org/wiki/en/Marriages_-_Methodist_in_NYC,_NY_1785-1893 Barb Mizscarlettny@aol.com

OMG! As if NYC isn't conflated enough! I was multi-searching LES demolished synagogues and churches. Calling a: DO OVER! I. 12 ELDRIDGE STREET...location of the active Eldridge Street Synagogue & Museum (A) "The Eldridge Street Synagogue opened its doors at 12 Eldridge Street on September 4, 1887, just in time for the Jewish High Holidays. Hundreds of newly arrived immigrants from Russia and Poland gathered here to pray, socialize and build a community. It was the first time in America that Jews of Eastern Europe had built a synagogue from the ground up." http://www.eldridgestreet.org/history/ (B) Eldridge Street Museum Discount>>>https://www.livingsocial.com/deals/1594148-museum-at-eldridge-street-admission-and-tour?cvosrc=affiliate.cj.594343&utm_campaign=594343&utm_content=3724478&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=cj II. 89-93 "RIVINGTON STREET CHURCH": four separate congregations; [Consecutive street numbers indicate side by side lots. Even numbers on one side, odd on the opposite.] (A) What's ironic is that that this old Manhattan church was built for Presbyterians to convert Jewish residents, but it backfired! As history unraveled, it became the heart of Jewish life on the Lower East Side. In 1857, it was known as "First German Presbyterian Church" and "German Evangelical Church of NYC." Then, in 1864, it housed an Orthodox German-Jewish congregation. By 1890, it was known as the *Allen Street Memorial Church (Methodist). Finally, in 1902, it was the First Roumanian-American Congregation (Jewish), until the building collapsed in January 2006. [* The Allen Street congregation moved into the 89-93 Rivington Street building and retained its name. ]** (B) Building Architectural Photos>>> http://www.nyc-architecture.com/LES/LES036.htm As I used advise students: It's easier to edit than compose. Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Kathleen Scarlett O'Hara Naylor via kathleen.scarlett.ohara@gmail.com I think you may be conflating two different buildings.

I think you may be conflating two different buildings. The Museum at Eldridge Street, which you linked to and which the Living Social deal is for, is at 12 Eldridge Street and is still standing. I believe the building has always been a Jewish synagogue, though I'm not sure. The building several blocks away at 83 Rivington St. is the one that has bounced around between religions and denominations and was demolished in 2007. I don't know if either of them was ever known as the Eldridge St. Church, as one was not a church and the other was not on Eldridge Street! Kathleen On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:46 PM, mizscarlettny via <nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Marie asked about the Eldridge Street Church at 89-93 Rivington Street. > http://www.eldridgestreet.org/museum-hours-admission-and-more/ > > > What's ironic is that that this old Manhattan church was built for > Presbyterians to convert Jewish residents, but it backfired! > As history unraveled, it became the heart of Jewish life on the Lower East > Side. > > > In 1857, it was known as "First German Presbyterian Church" and "German > Evangelical Church of NYC." Then, in 1864, > it housed an Orthodox German-Jewish congregation. By 1890, it was known as > the Allen Street Memorial Church (Methodist). > Finally, in 1902, it was the First Roumanian-American Congregation > (Jewish), until the building collapsed in January 2006. > > > View architectural photos, here>>> > http://www.nyc-architecture.com/LES/LES036.htm > > > Visitors may purchase a discounted museum admission through Living Social, > here>>> > > https://www.livingsocial.com/deals/1594148-museum-at-eldridge-street-admission-and-tour?cvosrc=affiliate.cj.594343&utm_campaign=594343&utm_content=3724478&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=cj > > > > > Barb > > MizScarlettNY@aol.com > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If your ancestors belonged to the First German Presbyterian Church of NYC, the Presbyterian Historical Society is the repository for the following records: Baptism (1852-1872): 3 volumes; call # Vault M146 N48ezb Marriages (1852-1872): call # Vault M146 N48ezm In addition, the Society is the repository for American Presbyterian records. . The Presbyterian Historical Society 425 Lombard Street Philadelphia PA 19147 215-627-1852 http://www.history.pcusa.org/ Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

Marie asked about the Eldridge Street Church at 89-93 Rivington Street. http://www.eldridgestreet.org/museum-hours-admission-and-more/ What's ironic is that that this old Manhattan church was built for Presbyterians to convert Jewish residents, but it backfired! As history unraveled, it became the heart of Jewish life on the Lower East Side. In 1857, it was known as "First German Presbyterian Church" and "German Evangelical Church of NYC." Then, in 1864, it housed an Orthodox German-Jewish congregation. By 1890, it was known as the Allen Street Memorial Church (Methodist). Finally, in 1902, it was the First Roumanian-American Congregation (Jewish), until the building collapsed in January 2006. View architectural photos, here>>> http://www.nyc-architecture.com/LES/LES036.htm Visitors may purchase a discounted museum admission through Living Social, here>>> https://www.livingsocial.com/deals/1594148-museum-at-eldridge-street-admission-and-tour?cvosrc=affiliate.cj.594343&utm_campaign=594343&utm_content=3724478&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=cj Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

Here are today's Obituaries from Westchester County, NY. Suburban Westchester sits on the northern border of Bronx NYC. Many residents in Westchester originated from NYC, especially the Bronx, and larger southern cities such as Yonkers and White Plains. http://obits.lohud.com/obituaries/lohud/ Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

Sorry about that! Note got sent before I finished telling you about the Rooneys. - Thomas *ROONEY was born in Ireland about 1827 - possibly Sligo, He first went to Canada and then Watertown, New York. From there to Illinois and then Minnesota. I have very little information on his sister,* *Catherine Rooney *(my ggm), also born in Ireland, She came to MN where she married my ggf *Thomas GARRICK. They had 8 children, including my grandmother, Agnes, b 1877 in MN. she married Joseph LYNCH in 1901.* *I think the BAXTERS, FIELDS and ROONEYS *probably all came to America through Canada but can find no records. Any help with these therr families will be greatly appreciated. Thank you! Janet Magnuson

My NY Irish ancestors are: Baxter, Fields and Rooney - James *BAXTER *(my gggf) b 1802 in Northern Irelane - *possibly Antrim* - m Jane *WIER* in Ireland. They lived in Lisbon, St. Lawrence Cty NY from 1836 - no immigration or naturalization records. Died 16 Jan 1887 in Lisbon. Jane was born 1805 in Northern Ireland. They had 9 children, 7 born in No. Ireland they were: Sarah, b 1827 (my gggm) m Wm *Fields* in Lisbon 1852 - no record found. They had 3 children, all born in Lisbon:: James be 07 Nov 1845; Mary(my ggm) b 08 Dec 1855; and John b 1858. I have no records verifying these birth dates. Sarah and William moved to St. Clair, MN about 1865-1870. All 5 died in St. Clair. - John *FIELDS* (my gggf*) *was born in No. Ireland abt 1800. He married Mary* McELWAIN* before 1829 in No. Ireland. Don't have any records indicating where in No. Ireland this family is from. They came to Lisbon, NY before 1829 as their son, William,(my ggf) was born there in 1829 as were their other 9 children. John and Mary died in Lisbon. - Thomas *ROONEY *

Here's a website about the SMITH family in county Monaghan. https://archive.org/details/recordofsmithfam00harr Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

I replied to your post yesterday but it has never appeared.      Virginia From: mizscarlettny via <ny-irish@rootsweb.com>   Are there any savvy Catholics out there? Virginia? Jim Garrity? Please add to this. Many folks are writing me about the prolonged delay of Chief Stack's Roman Catholic funeral and how cruel this was to the Stack family. Judie Cook suggested informing Pope Francis of this travesty of humane justice.

Thank you. My Mom (née Gleeson) and I have also done the familytreedna for autosomal.and my Mom did Mtdna. My son has done Y, m, and Autosomal I love the Gleeson Dna group; they are extremely knowledgable . Wish some of my male Gleeson cousin's would do it too. My family believes the Gleeson's are from Tipperary but not yet documented. Not sure about the Hayes. My Catherine Hayes married Richard Hotter. Their daughter Henrietta (my grandmother) married my Grandfather John Gleeson. All from Brooklyn NY. The search continued!! Best Henny Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 18, 2016, at 6:04 PM, Kelly Kellett via <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello Henny, > Probably far afield, but I have a Thomas Gleeson (from Boherlahan, Tipperary) who married Ellen Hayes (aka Nelly) in Killenaule, Tipperary in 1835. They had 8 children, 1 of whom went to England, 1 died in infancy in Ireland and the rest emigrated with parents in 1854 - they went to Australia. > There's a wealth of Gleeson information at the blog of Maurice Gleeson, who manages the Gleason/Gleeson DNA project. https://www.blogger.com/profile/03920753459154271648 > > I did the Family Tree DNA autosomal test and that's how I got on to Maurice. I'm confident in saying I know next to nothing about DNA and the project's DNA reports. But if that doesn't interest you, check out the Most Distant Known Ancestor Profiles and Post Your Pedigree sections for more on various Gleeson lines. There's also a link to the Gleeson Genealogy Forum on Facebook. > Hope this helps a bit - cheers, Kelly > >

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