"Reclaim the Records"[RtR] (https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/) should really be called "Release OUR Records" as our ancestral NYers originally paid for them. It's like they've been held hostage! For what? Go down Moses...Let our records go! Technically, in NY State AND City [Yonkers* is no exception], Marriages and Deaths more than 50 years, and Births more than 75 years, are classified as "Historical." This means that even non-direct-line folks can order them, just follow the Ps & Qs when ordering: form, photo ID, and buck$$$. NYC DOH, scores #1 on my most offensive NYC repository, and needs constant reminders about historical status. Next time, red-magic-marker your requests "H I S T O R I C A L." Works for me every time. Oh, BTW If you're coming to town, skip DOH. The lines are so chronically long that you could get TKTS to "Hamilton" faster. Ahhh I digress...back to RtR...Since my focus is Metro NYC, I'm jiggin' that NYC Births 1910 -1915 are in the wings. They are, after all, OVER 100 years old and hunkered down at NYC DOH (Worth Street), whose Comish, FARLEY, refused to transfer them to NYC Muni Archives. Why? He said "homeland security" since Muslims digested the World Trade Center. Yup. "Identity-theft prevention." Oh yeah, I can just seem some burka-clad illegal face-timing as my blue-eyed Irish grandmother who died in 1953. Pullllleeeze! What it's really about? An interdepartmental power play. It's new YAWK folks. Nothin's easy. Please peruse Reclaim the Records' To Do List amidst the rockets red glare. It ain't just NYC. https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/to-do/ *Yonkers long since wore out their handle of "City of Gracious Living." They score #1 in my most colvouted town t get records from Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

You are very welcome, Marie. I don't know when 1937+ Marriage Licenses Index will be accessible online. For questions such as yours, to learn about other "Reclaim the Records" projects, and take their online survey, go here>>> (https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/) I'm doing a RUN for LICENSES next week for years 1908 -1930. Just email me offlist if interested. Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: bsktbtque Thank you for these easy to follow instructions. Do you know how soon the 1937+ marriages will be posted? Marie ------------------------------------------------ If you right click on the image, you can save the image to your computer Gail ------------------------------------------------ (This is the continuation of: "NEWish: NYC Marriages LICENSES 1908-1951, Pt. 1") THE LINK....TA DAAAA>>>>>>https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex NOW, make notes: YEAR, COUNTY, VOLUME #, LICENSE #, DATE, NAME

(This is the continuation of: "NEWish: NYC Marriages LICENSES 1908-1951, Pt. 1") These NYC Marriage License Indexes are fantastic, but...tricky to navigate. That's why I've composed these basics, These two emails are the culmination of about 4 hours of work. If you know the marriage date, search from it backwards 3 months. If you are searching without a date, check your surname in every month. THE LINK....TA DAAAA>>>>>>https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex THE BASICS: Print this page? l) Brides and Grooms are intermingled. Grooms on the left of page, brides on the right. EX: If you were searching a HARING groom and a HANNIGAN bride, both will appear on the HA- page. 2) After you proceed from YEAR to COUNTY to 1st ALPHABETICAL LETTER of SURNAME... go the first page where that letter begins. This is where it gets tricky! The listings are NOT fully chronological. Using the HARING= HANNIGAN example...Listings are not sequestial, but will appear as HA- to HZ- for January, then HA- to HZ- for February, etc While scrolling, notice the MONTH shown on the left of image. Yes, you got it! You may have to search through 12 alphabetized sections in one calendar year. Each surname is NOYt sequentially listed. Remember, HA- HB- HB- for each month or quarter. PANNING FOR GOLD: l) Go into>>> https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex 2) Click on the YEAR you want from list on the right.. 3) A group of COUNTIES will surface; click on the county you want. 4) Scroll down your MOUSE about 10 times. 5) Increase IMAGE SIZE by clicking on magnifying glass + image on lower right.. WARNING: If you increase later, the page may jump around. 6) Move SLIDER BAR to the right, until you reach the ALPH LETTER you need. 7) Go to the FIRST page of that alphabetical letter. 8) As you scan through images, make sure to view every month note on the left. 9) Search for both the bride and groom for each year. 10) VOILA!!!...You found both the bride and groom! You just performed a "cross referencing." NOW, make notes: YEAR, COUNTY, VOLUME #, LICENSE #, DATE, NAME PLEASE do not email me with questions until you understand parts 1 and 2. Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com @BAMS, 6-30-2016= Do not forward or repost w/o my consent.

This is the best news for Metro NYC genealogists! Promise! The activist group called "Reclaim the Records" (https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/) filed FOIAs and gained online access to the Index to NYC Marriage Licenses. Wooo wooo! BACKSTORY: From 1908 to 1951 New York City required couples to apply for PRE-marriage ceremony LICENSES, in person at the marriage bureau. Think Norman Rockwell painting> http://www.wikiart.org/en/norman-rockwell/marriage-license-1935 *Licenses were valid for 3 months.* AFTER the marriage ceremony, the minister completed page 3 of the license application, then return it to the issuing NYC county clerk by the 10th of the next month. EXCEPTION: Some marriage ceremonies occurred, but the minister did not return his portion of the documentation. YEARS (All years are not accessible yet) : 1908-1951: Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, Richmond 1914-1951: Bronx (prior to 1914, search Manhattan)..........EXCEPTION *IMPT NOTE: Brides and Grooms are intermingled. Grooms on the left of page, Brides on the right.

This is the best news for Metro NYC genealogists! Promise! The activist group called "Reclaim the Records" (https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/) filed FOIAs and gained online access to the Index to NYC Marriage Licenses. Wooo wooo!   BACKSTORY: From 1908 to 1951 New York City required couples to apply for PRE-marriage ceremony LICENSES, in person at the marriage bureau. Think Norman Rockwell painting>>> http://www.wikiart.org/en/norman-rockwell/marriage-license-1935 *Licenses were valid for 3 months.* AFTER the marriage ceremony, the minister completed page 3 of the license application, then returned it to the *issuing NYC county* clerk by the 10th of the next month.  EXCEPTION: Some marriage ceremonies occurred, but the minister did not return documentation confirming the marriage occurred.     YEARS (All years are not accessible yet) : 1908-1951: Manhattan, Brooklyn, Queens, Richmond 1914-1951: Bronx (prior to 1914, search Manhattan)..........EXCEPTION (To be continued as: "USING: NYC Marriages LICENSES 1908-1951, Pt. 2") Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com @BAMS, 6-30-2016= Do not forward or repost w/o my consent.

Quick update! CARLOW, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Newtown, R.C. Church Cemetery (partial) http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/carlow/photos/tombstones/markers.htm FERMANAGH, Genealogy Archives - Church Records Maguiresbridge Presby. Births 1860-1930 http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/fermanagh/church.htm FERMANAGH, Genealogy Archives - Headstones St. Mary's Ardess Church Cem. (Additional) http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/fermanagh/photos/tombstones/markers.htm MAYO, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Leigue Cemetery, Ballina (partial) Old Kilmeena (CoI) Graveyard Balla Old Cemetery Teampall Maol Cem., Foxford Westport Road (CoI) Cemetery http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/mayo/photos/tombstones/markers.htm SLIGO, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Ahamlish Cemetery - Old, H-W (Transcribed) http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/sligo/photos/tombstones/grange-ndx.htm SLIGO, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Sligo Cem - Old Part, Section 3 Sligo Cem. Middle Pt, Section C (A-Lo) http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/sligo/photos/tombstones/sligo-cem.htm TIPPERARY, Genealogy Archives - Newspaper Records Vindicator, Evicted from Lattera 8 May 1844 Vindicator, Intent to Register to Vote 1846 http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/news.htm TIPPERARY, Genealogy Archives - Miscellaneous Vindicator, Licenced for sale of spirits 7 Oct 1846 http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/misc.htm TYRONE, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Clanabogan Parish Cem. (CoI), Omagh http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tyrone/photos/tombstones/markers.htm WESTMEATH, Genealogy Archives - Headstones Crowinstown (Parish of Delvin) http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/westmeath/photos/tombstones/markers.htm Enjoy! Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ https://www.facebook.com/IrelandGenealogyProjects ===============================

Roisin Lafferty is having trouble posting onlist and asked me to post this email for him. Thans all, Barb -----Original Message----- From: Roisin Lafferty <laffertyd@eircom.net> To: mizscarlettny <mizscarlettny@aol.com> Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2016 12:43 pm Subject: John F Christy hi Barb, thanks very much yes the details( age and parents names) are correct, I would be very happy if one of the people you found listed was my John f Christy but I honestly dont know. John christy gave his address for the draft card at 341 West Street in 1918 and the address for the declaration of intent is 25 South Street in 1921. That was some sort of sailor's hostel or headquarters. I mailed them to see if they kept records, they say they moved a few blocks away but didnt keep records but it is still in existence... it seems to have been some sort of religious place, Christy said he was single on his citizenship application papers signed July 1921 we have nothing further until 1926 when he wrote to my father giving his address at a mail collection service at no 1 Broadway, the headquarters of several shipping companies and now the head office of City Bank. Would the city directories throw any light on his whereabouts do you think? Do you think if he married in the intervening years he would have had a permanent address by 1926. My grandfather and he were co owners of a small farm in Ireland where Christy was born and my family still owned this place until about 10 years ago. his father Peter Christy died 1906 at 83 Elm Street, his sister Mary died early 1890s age 4 years and both are buried in St Marys Pawtucket. but john is not listed in the grave, nor is he in his aunts Catherine McBurneys grave in the same cemetery. I think that even if he fell on hard times the Irish community would have joined together to bury him with his family. Other than that if he were a sailor he may have been lost at sea or maybe died in an unknown port. maybe he did something awful and landed in prison... I will keep checking as we never know what new sources come online. Thanks for your help...its very much appreciated. Regards Roisin

Eileen, My wife and I applied for a marriage license in Maryland and got married on June 18th in 1981. I went into the US NAVY and in December of 1981 a letter arrived at my parents house. My wife opened it when she visited and it said if I didn't use the license by the end on January it would be void. The priest had failed to return it. He did, we are legal! Ted Duke On 6/28/2016 1:05 PM, mizscarlettny via wrote: > Hi Eileen, > > > I recall helping you identify the correct Catholic church near a specific addresses. > > > > First, let me explain the steps involved. I tend to think that any multi-step process leave it open to fumbles. > > > The marriage "process" 1908-1951 began with the couple applying in-person for, then acquiring, a "License to Marry." > [I have one in front of me now.] The header title says "State of New York Affidavit for License to Marry." Couples applied for a license in the county where the ceremony would take place, usually where the bride lived. > > > The couple had 90 days to actually marry while the license was valid. Once the marriage ceremony was performed aka > "solemnized" [the word on the civil license form], the officiant was supposed to complete and return page three of the Marriage License to the county that issued the license. > > > According to the form in front of me, the officiant was supposed to return his confirmation of marriage "on or before > the 10th day" of the next month. > > > Since you have the marriage certificate from St. Bernard's RC Church, this tells me that: > l) The officiating priest neglected to complete then return the form to NYC, or returned it to the wrong county; or > 2) The marriage ceremony did not occur within the 90 day licensing window; or > 3) The officiating priest was not paid for his services; or > 4) The officiating priest and/or his parish felt that their "sacramental" records were not the business of civil authorities. > [This was quite common within the Irish culture.] > 5) The officiating priest returned his section later than the 10th of the next month. > > > > In general, when page 3 of the license was not filed by the officiant with the city, this could lead researchers to believe that a marriage ceremony did not occur. > > > FYI For each of the 5 marriage licenses that I purchased last week, none appear in the IGG/GGG marriage certificate search. I don't know if this is common or not. > > > Eileen, residential addresses of both bride and groom appear on the Marriage License. Please contact me offlist if > you'd like me to retrieve it for you. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chapman, Eileen <echapman@monmouth.edu> > > Thank you for the link, Barb. > I found my grandfather and grandmother both listed and at each of their names there is a "NO RETURN" stamp and no date provided for their marriage. To add to the mystery, I have a marriage certificate for their wedding at St Bernard's church but when I called the church asking if they had the bride's address on file, they were very accommodating and spent quite a bit of time on the phone with me but could find no record of the marriage. Would love your thoughts on this mystery. > > Eileen > > -----Original Message-----mizscarlettny via > > Access to Marriage LICENSE Index, not Marriage CERTIFICATES, 1908-1951. > I viewed and purchased a few last week at the Archives. > Informational and truly beautiful copies. > > > VIEW Marriage License Index here>>>> > https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex/&tab=collection > It's a goldmine to panhandle! > > > > > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This, from Bronx County 1916 Marriage License: Page 1 Heading: "State of New York Affidavit for License to Marry." [Dated 19 Sept 1916, signed by Bride & Groom and Bronx Clerk] Page 2 Heading: "New York State Department of Health, Bureau of Vital Statistics, Certificate and Record of Marriage" [Dated 19 Sept 1916, signed by Bride, Groom and Bronx City County Clerk] Page 3 Heading: "To Clergymen and Magistrates" [Dated 19 Sept 1916; signed by Bride, Groom and Priest] Completed by Priest Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Bob Raynor <boray51@hotmail.com> I haven't looked at the site; but in my research the Affidavit is for applying for a marriage license and there is also either on the same page the marriage information or there is a separate marriage license. Bob From: mizscarlettny via <nyqueens@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 1:28 PM To: james.castellan@gmail.com; nywestch@rootsweb.com; NYRICHMO@rootsweb.com; nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com; NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com; NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com; NYQUEENS@rootsweb.com; njbergen@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYQUEENS] NYC Marriage License Hi Jim, I was expecting this question since the moment that I pushed "send" as I have the same question. I do not know. Perhaps another reader knows? Yes, the header of NYC Marriage Licenses 1908-1951 says "State of New York Affidavit for License to Marry." Yes, we've learned that NYC and NYS records are kept separately. Yes, Westchester County NY has an Index to Marriage Licenses online 1908-1935. http://archives.westchestergov.com/browse-all-online-indexes-main/marriages-index Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: James Castellan <james.castellan@gmail.com> Dear Barb, From your post, I noticed: "The Marriage License header title says "State of New York Affidavit for License to Marry." but your header states: "NYC Marriage Procedure 1908 - 1951". Was a marriage license only required for NYC marriages during the 1908-1951 period or was this requirement state-wide? Thanks. Jim

Pat Carmody asked me to post this for her. Barb From: Lewis Pat <patcarmody1@gmail.com> MY ANSESTRAL FAMILIES BELOW. I THING I HAVE MY GREAT GREAT GREAT GRANDFATHER,PATRICK CARMODY AS BORN APPROX 1795-1805 IN "CO. CLARE" I DO NOT KNOW ANYMORE ABOUT HIM EXCEPT HIS SON DENIS WAS BORN IN 1824 SOMEWHERE IN "CORK". HIS FAMILY MOVED IN 1850'S TO LONDON AREA. COUNTY STARTS WITH "H" I CAN'T REMEMBER AT THIS MOMENT. OTHER CHILDREN WERE PATRICK, JOHNANNA AND DENIS. I HAVE HIS INFORMATION WITH WIFE AND 4 CHILDREN AND 3 OF THEM STAYED IN SAME AREA ONLY MY GREAT GRANDFATHER,JOHN ,MOVED TO USA. IN 1884,TO NY…THEN JOINED THE US ARMY AND ALSO FOUGHT IN SSP/AM. WAR AS ONE OF THE ROUGH RIDERS. THIS IS "ALL" I KMOW OF THEM…I HAD NO PARENTS OR OTHER CARMODY RELATIVES KNOWN AFTER I WAS 6 YEARS OLD IN BRONX, NY.

Hi Jim, I was expecting this question since the moment that I pushed "send" as I have the same question. I do not know. Perhaps another reader knows? Yes, the header of NYC Marriage Licenses 1908-1951 says "State of New York Affidavit for License to Marry." Yes, we've learned that NYC and NYS records are kept separately. Yes, Westchester County NY has an Index to Marriage Licenses online 1908-1935. http://archives.westchestergov.com/browse-all-online-indexes-main/marriages-index Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: James Castellan <james.castellan@gmail.com> Dear Barb, From your post, I noticed: "The Marriage License header title says "State of New York Affidavit for License to Marry." but your header states: "NYC Marriage Procedure 1908 - 1951". Was a marriage license only required for NYC marriages during the 1908-1951 period or was this requirement state-wide? Thanks. Jim

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Eileen, Either the parish secretary made an error in his/her search or the priest/secretary at the time forgot to enter it in the parish records.  They were human. Not a rare event but frustrating for us descendants. And I'm not suggesting it about your ancestors but sometimes the priest 'forgot' on purpose--if the bride was pregnant--to save her embarrassment.  I know from early 20c newspaper stories that this definitely occurred with civil registration but I can't be sure about church records. I found one story where a priest was threatened with jail if he didn't send the state his marriage records. He refused but I never found that he was jailed. Good luck--Virginia From: "Chapman@lists2.rootsweb.com" <Chapman@lists2.rootsweb.com>   . To add to the mystery, I have a marriage certificate for their wedding at St Bernard's church but when I called the church asking if they had the bride's address on file, they were very accommodating and spent quite a bit of time on the phone with me but could find no record of the marriage. Would love your thoughts on this mystery. Eileen

Thank you for the link, Barb. I found my grandfather and grandmother both listed and at each of their names there is a "NO RETURN" stamp and no date provided for their marriage. To add to the mystery, I have a marriage certificate for their wedding at St Bernard's church but when I called the church asking if they had the bride's address on file, they were very accommodating and spent quite a bit of time on the phone with me but could find no record of the marriage. Would love your thoughts on this mystery. Eileen -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mizscarlettny via Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 11:31 AM To: brian@amason.net; nywestch@rootsweb.com Cc: njbergen@rootsweb.com; NYRICHMO@rootsweb.com; nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com; nynewyor@rootsweb.com; ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-IRISH] NYC NMarriage Licenses 1908 - 1951 Access to Marriage LICNESE Index, not Marriage CERTIFICATES, 1908-1951. This McKenna info was extracted from such a certificate. I viewed and purchased a few last week at the Archives. Informational and truly beautiful copies. I'll post the step-by-step directions of how to use this, later today.>>> https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex/&tab=collection It's a goldmine to panhandle! Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

UGHHH NOT all years for all 5 counties have been uploaded online yet. NYC Marriage Licenses. Search by year, then county. >>> https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex/&tab=collection Please cut out email junk at the bottom before replying. Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Lauri Russell via < lauri.russell@gmail.com I only see up to 1935-36. I'm interested in later years, anyone else having this issue? >

Excellent point about pregnant brides, Virginia. The other aspect comes under the heading of "separation of church and state." In the Catholic church, marriage is a sacrament. Often Irish parishes intentionally did not comply with civil authorities. On page 3 of license form it states "any person or persons who shall wilfully neglect to make such return within the time above [by the 10th of the next month], shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction thereof shall be punished by a fine no less than twenty-five dollars or more than fifty dollars for each and every offense." Since Tammany was running NYC until the 1950s, you better believe that no priest or parish would be fined. Ah the sweet smell of corruption at work! Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com I found one story where a priest was threatened with jail if he didn't send the state his marriage records. He refused but I never found that he was jailed.Good luck--Virginia

Hi Eileen, I recall helping you identify the correct Catholic church near a specific addresses. First, let me explain the steps involved. I tend to think that any multi-step process leave it open to fumbles. The marriage "process" 1908-1951 began with the couple applying in-person for, then acquiring, a "License to Marry." [I have one in front of me now.] The header title says "State of New York Affidavit for License to Marry." Couples applied for a license in the county where the ceremony would take place, usually where the bride lived. The couple had 90 days to actually marry while the license was valid. Once the marriage ceremony was performed aka "solemnized" [the word on the civil license form], the officiant was supposed to complete and return page three of the Marriage License to the county that issued the license. According to the form in front of me, the officiant was supposed to return his confirmation of marriage "on or before the 10th day" of the next month. Since you have the marriage certificate from St. Bernard's RC Church, this tells me that: l) The officiating priest neglected to complete then return the form to NYC, or returned it to the wrong county; or 2) The marriage ceremony did not occur within the 90 day licensing window; or 3) The officiating priest was not paid for his services; or 4) The officiating priest and/or his parish felt that their "sacramental" records were not the business of civil authorities. [This was quite common within the Irish culture.] 5) The officiating priest returned his section later than the 10th of the next month. In general, when page 3 of the license was not filed by the officiant with the city, this could lead researchers to believe that a marriage ceremony did not occur. FYI For each of the 5 marriage licenses that I purchased last week, none appear in the IGG/GGG marriage certificate search. I don't know if this is common or not. Eileen, residential addresses of both bride and groom appear on the Marriage License. Please contact me offlist if you'd like me to retrieve it for you. -----Original Message----- From: Chapman, Eileen <echapman@monmouth.edu> Thank you for the link, Barb. I found my grandfather and grandmother both listed and at each of their names there is a "NO RETURN" stamp and no date provided for their marriage. To add to the mystery, I have a marriage certificate for their wedding at St Bernard's church but when I called the church asking if they had the bride's address on file, they were very accommodating and spent quite a bit of time on the phone with me but could find no record of the marriage. Would love your thoughts on this mystery. Eileen -----Original Message-----mizscarlettny via Access to Marriage LICENSE Index, not Marriage CERTIFICATES, 1908-1951. I viewed and purchased a few last week at the Archives. Informational and truly beautiful copies. VIEW Marriage License Index here>>>> https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex/&tab=collection It's a goldmine to panhandle!

A nice send-off to 'Tony', Barb. Wish I could have known him. Terry -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mizscarlettny via Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 1:25 PM Subject: [NY-IRISH] After the NYC Municipal Archives... The latest from the NYC Municipal Archives is the retirement of Tony some two weeks ago.>>>>> <<<<<So here's to my buddy, Tony. May his trips to DisneyWorld be many. May his beers always be cold. May the whiff of some lady's perfume always signal him home. Until we meet again, I'll never mimic his, "Fugitabowtit." Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com

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Access to Marriage LICNESE Index, not Marriage CERTIFICATES, 1908-1951. This McKenna info was extracted from such a certificate. I viewed and purchased a few last week at the Archives. Informational and truly beautiful copies. I'll post the step-by-step directions of how to use this, later today.>>> https://archive.org/details/nycmarriageindex/&tab=collection It's a goldmine to panhandle! Barb MizScarlettNY@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Brian J Densmore <brian@amason.net> > Access to the NYC Marriage Licenses has a new online presence, but it is > incomplete. Did you share this new online presence with us and I missed it? What/where is this new presence?