Did the irish take the census as regularly as us? Where can I find these census? Patricia IN

Census for the whole of Ireland were taken in 1821, 1831, 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1911. However, the 1st four were destroy in a fire in 1922 and only a couple pages/fragments survived. Those for 1861 to 1891 were completely destoyed by England before 1922. So, all that is left of the early censuses are 1901 and 1911. Here are some websites that have censuses transcribed online: A site that has a number of links to censuses online http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hiflyte/iredata/refdata/census_links/irl_cen_links.html The National Archives are currently putting the 1911 online fully searchable. They are doing iit by county and they are pretty slow. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ So far they have the current counties online: Dublin, Antrim, Down and Kerry NOTE: After 1911 censuses were done by the Republic and Northern Island (England) but haven't been released as yet. > Did the irish take the census as regularly as us? Where can I find these > census? > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

I am happy to announce that the transcription project for the 1865 NYS census for Troy is starting to go online. The first ward is now totally transcribed and I've started to get it online. Over the next day or two all of it will be online. There are 3,992 individuals in the first ward in 255 dwellings and 798 families. Here are the people to thank for taking time out of their lives to help others: Bob McConihe, Earl Smith, Kay Brearton, Amy LaPietra, Sharon King, Terry Bora, Lynn Grice, Gary Carver and Austin Fadden. The 2nd and 3rd wards are now totally assigned and we started the 4th ward this week. If you would like to help out on this project, email me off line. You can find a link to the census on the Troy page of my website. I have A to Crowley online tonight and hope to get the rest of the census online in the next day or two so keep checking the site out. Also, read the notes on the front page of the 1st ward, there is an explanation of the problems we encountered plus a description on how the tables are arranged. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

We have Clark from Bailieborough, Cavan. Bernard Married Anna Cooney from Cavan. He was said to be the seventh son of a seventh son from a second marriage. One paper says he was from Crimlin, county Cavan. He came to NY on the 1800's. Any relation to yours. Nancy On Apr 25, 2009, at 2:19 PM, MizScarlettNY@aol.com wrote: > Hi Lisa. BINGO! > > BINGO for CLARKE/CLARK! > BINGO for Co Cavan! > BINGO for NYC merchants! > > Your timing is perfect as my distant cousin recently found me. He is > directly related to CLARKE and FARLEY/FARRELLY in Cavan today & has > heard the > basic story....which is this: > > "I have also been told that the entire CLARKE family is related to 4 > brothers named O'CLEIRACH who moved there [meaning Balieborough, > Nolagh, Relaghan, > Kileen] > from Donegal in the 1650s. They were related to the family that > wrote the > Annals of the Four Masters- a key book on Irish history written in > the early > 17th century." > > Ultimately, we emante from this group, but yours came to NYC via > Canada, > and mine, so far, came here directly. My g-g grandmother's wedding > Bible > includes about 20 prayer cards all in French, but I have not figured > who sent > them. > > A couple of points, for others who may also have NYC CLARKE/CLARK > family, > and then we'll takte this offlist. > > l) One Rootsweb surname list includes both spellings. Mine, in > Ireland show > as CLARKE, usually in NYC as CLARK. > > 2) CLARKE is the most common name in County Cavan. > > 3) Do you know of any of your family connections to O'CONNELL, > FARLEY/FARRELLY, MURPHY? What other surnames do you have? > > 4) My branch includes three brothers Andrew, James, and Patrick > CLARK who > established a NYC shoe store than expanded into a mini chain of > shops. My > cousin said that the family story is they sold the shop to a > relative FARLEY, > so that they could emigrate to the US around the Irish disapora. > > 5) My branch is related to Cardinal John Murphy FARLEY of NYC. > > 6) My gg-grandmother was Annie CLARKE, sister of the shoe shop > brothers, > also had two sisters in NYC that I have not found. Their parents > were Andrew > CLARKE and Margaret FARLEY. > > Opps, I am getting carried away. > > We need to share more offline. > Barb > N of NYC > > > > lisatutt@googlemail.com writes: >> >> I'm trying to find out more about my Clarke/Clark ancestors, and am >> hoping >> someone might be able to help me find more information about their >> years >> in >> Brooklyn (early 1850s until sometime in the 1870s). >> >> John Clarke was born in Co. Cavan, Ireland, about 1821. He >> emigrated in >> the >> early 1840s, first to Canada, then to the U.S. (in the 1850 census >> he's a >> Teamster in Allegheny, PA) and by about 1853 had a store somewhere >> in New >> York, I presume in Brooklyn as that's where they were living by >> 1860. The >> 1860 Federal Census shows him with his family -- name spelled >> CLARK -- in >> Ward 7, and gives his occupation as "Merchant." In the 1870 Census >> they >> are >> in the South Half of the 11th Ward, their name is given as CLARKE >> and he's >> a >> dry goods retailer, and two of his older sons are "clerks in store." >> >> In the 1859 Brooklyn Directory (searched on-line) there are two >> likely >> possibilities -- Ithink he must be either >> CLARK, John, dry goods, h. 57 Ryerson or >> CLARK, John H., merchant, 86 West N.Y., h. 105 Hicks >> >> But I don't have access to any directories from the 1860s. Living in >> Scotland, I can't make a research visit to any New York libraries are >> present! I wonder if anyone would be willing to search for him in >> any >> directories they might be looking up ancestors of their own? >> >> Also online, I've been able to search the 1873 directory, but I >> don't know >> if the one John Clark listed there (drygoods, 112 Myrtle Ave) is >> mine or >> not >> -- I don't know WHEN the family left Brooklyn, only that by the 1880 >> federal >> census, John and his wife Rebecca are in Kansas, where he was >> working as a >> "local preacher" (I think that means unofficial) -- they were a >> family of >> Methodists -- with one of his sons in Philadelphia and another in >> Colorado >> and two others lost to me. >> > > > > > ************** > Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the > web. Get the Radio Toolbar! > (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003 > ) > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Barb, curiosity led me to look up the Directories and I found the following: the small case LT means Lower Town. UP would be Upper Town. There's an explanation for these designations in the 1847 Directory, images 9 & 10. It refers to the way the city of Quebec was divided. Other designations are SJ (St. John) & SR (St.Roch). I guess it would help people find the Street, using the map McLaughlin encloses at the beginning of the Directory. Pretty good idea. Terry in Mich. ----- Original Message ----- From: <MizScarlettNY@aol.com> To: <NYNEWYOR@rootsweb.com>; <NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com>; <NYBRONX@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 3:21 PM Subject: [NY-IRISH] Irish in Quebec 1857; Directory > > Barb > N of NYC wrote: > > <<<<<<<Directories & Member Lists > Canadian City and Area Directories, > 1819-1899 > > Quebec > Quebec > 1857 > McLAUGHLIN'S QUEBEC DIRECTORY > > 67 resident listed on Champlain; I transcribed only those around # 300. > All show the letters "LT" in small font, after their addresses, and I > don't > know that this means>>>>>>>>>. > >

Since I'm still at a loss about Daniel O'Connell, tailor in NYC 1860 census, I decided to try Canada. It doesn't make sense to me that he would be in Canada in 1857, as the ship he arrived on in 1849 cross references with other documents related to NYC. I do know that some of his wife's family arrived in Canada. I hope this will be helpful to someone. Barb N of NYC Directories & Member Lists > Canadian City and Area Directories, 1819-1899 > Quebec > Quebec > 1857 McLAUGHLIN'S QUEBEC DIRECTORY 67 resident listed on Champlain; I transcribed only those around # 300. All show the letters "LT" in small font, after their addresses, and I don't know that this means. Torrance, Michel, laborer. 291 Champlain Quinlau, Catharine, seamstress, 296 Champlain Ryan, Phillip, laborer, 296 Champlain McCutchy, Robert, laborer, 298 Champlain Swendell, Robert, 298 Champlain Lawlor, Dennis, laborer, 299 Champlain Breslow, James, tailor, 316 Champlain Mulhearn, Bernard,boatman, 321 Champlain Hossack, C.G, grocer, 325 Champlain O'Day, William, laborer, 326 Champlain McTaggarth, 328 Champlain O'Bryan, James, police 329 Champlain Holton, Thomas, laborer, 329 Champlain Hanley, William, grocer, 329 Champlain Galgher, Michael, butcher 331 Champlain Tracy, James, shoemaker, 333 CHamplain Wall, John, confectioneer, 334 Champlain Wall, Patrick, confectioneer, 334 Champlain Kane, Patrick, laborer, 334 Champlain Welsh, Patrick, grocer, 334 Champlain Lucy, John, Laborer, 334 Champlain Hogan, Michael, servant, 335 Champlain McQuinn, Peter, 336 Champlain Quinn, William, laborer, 337 CHamplain Gallagher, Dennis, laborer 338 Champlain Sullivan, Patrick, shoemaker, 338 Champlain Foley, Michael, pedlar, 339 Champlain Hopkins, Patrick, laborer, 339 Champlain O'Connell, Daniel, tailor, 340 Champlain McHugh, Andrews, tailor, 341 Champlain Coochan[?], tailor 342 Champlain Garneau-----------343 Champlain Deon, Eugene, merchant, 346 Champlain ************** Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003)

Hi Lisa. BINGO! BINGO for CLARKE/CLARK! BINGO for Co Cavan! BINGO for NYC merchants! Your timing is perfect as my distant cousin recently found me. He is directly related to CLARKE and FARLEY/FARRELLY in Cavan today & has heard the basic story....which is this: "I have also been told that the entire CLARKE family is related to 4 brothers named O'CLEIRACH who moved there [meaning Balieborough, Nolagh, Relaghan, Kileen] from Donegal in the 1650s. They were related to the family that wrote the Annals of the Four Masters- a key book on Irish history written in the early 17th century." Ultimately, we emante from this group, but yours came to NYC via Canada, and mine, so far, came here directly. My g-g grandmother's wedding Bible includes about 20 prayer cards all in French, but I have not figured who sent them. A couple of points, for others who may also have NYC CLARKE/CLARK family, and then we'll takte this offlist. l) One Rootsweb surname list includes both spellings. Mine, in Ireland show as CLARKE, usually in NYC as CLARK. 2) CLARKE is the most common name in County Cavan. 3) Do you know of any of your family connections to O'CONNELL, FARLEY/FARRELLY, MURPHY? What other surnames do you have? 4) My branch includes three brothers Andrew, James, and Patrick CLARK who established a NYC shoe store than expanded into a mini chain of shops. My cousin said that the family story is they sold the shop to a relative FARLEY, so that they could emigrate to the US around the Irish disapora. 5) My branch is related to Cardinal John Murphy FARLEY of NYC. 6) My gg-grandmother was Annie CLARKE, sister of the shoe shop brothers, also had two sisters in NYC that I have not found. Their parents were Andrew CLARKE and Margaret FARLEY. Opps, I am getting carried away. We need to share more offline. Barb N of NYC lisatutt@googlemail.com writes: > > I'm trying to find out more about my Clarke/Clark ancestors, and am hoping > someone might be able to help me find more information about their years > in > Brooklyn (early 1850s until sometime in the 1870s). > > John Clarke was born in Co. Cavan, Ireland, about 1821. He emigrated in > the > early 1840s, first to Canada, then to the U.S. (in the 1850 census he's a > Teamster in Allegheny, PA) and by about 1853 had a store somewhere in New > York, I presume in Brooklyn as that's where they were living by 1860. The > 1860 Federal Census shows him with his family -- name spelled CLARK -- in > Ward 7, and gives his occupation as "Merchant." In the 1870 Census they > are > in the South Half of the 11th Ward, their name is given as CLARKE and he's > a > dry goods retailer, and two of his older sons are "clerks in store." > > In the 1859 Brooklyn Directory (searched on-line) there are two likely > possibilities -- Ithink he must be either > CLARK, John, dry goods, h. 57 Ryerson or > CLARK, John H., merchant, 86 West N.Y., h. 105 Hicks > > But I don't have access to any directories from the 1860s. Living in > Scotland, I can't make a research visit to any New York libraries are > present! I wonder if anyone would be willing to search for him in any > directories they might be looking up ancestors of their own? > > Also online, I've been able to search the 1873 directory, but I don't know > if the one John Clark listed there (drygoods, 112 Myrtle Ave) is mine or > not > -- I don't know WHEN the family left Brooklyn, only that by the 1880 > federal > census, John and his wife Rebecca are in Kansas, where he was working as a > "local preacher" (I think that means unofficial) -- they were a family of > Methodists -- with one of his sons in Philadelphia and another in Colorado > and two others lost to me. > ************** Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003)

Rec'd from Hudson County Genalogical Soc. Jeanine       Forwarded Message: [NJ-GSNJ] 1868-1878 Marriage Index Posted to State Archives Website [NJ-GSNJ] 1868-1878 Marriage Index Posted to State Archives Website Monday, April 20, 2009 3:34 PM From: "Joseph Klett" <Joseph.Klett@SOS.STATE.NJ.US> To: "H-Net Network on New Jersey history" <H-NEW-JERSEY@H-NET.MSU.EDU>, nj-gsnj@rootsweb.com, MARAC_NJ_CAUCUS@Princeton.EDU, "Archives & Archivists (A&A) List" <archives@forums.archivists.org> Dear List Members: I am delighted to announce New Jersey State Archives' posting of the 1868-1878 marriage index to our website this afternoon. The new data can be searched, along with the previously posted 1848-1868 marriage index, at the following URL: https://wwwnet1.state.nj.us/DOS/Admin/ArchivesDBPortal/Marriage1867.aspx The index now contains roughly 147,000 entries. Order forms for copies of these records can be generated directly from the database. The State Archives "Searchable Databases" site provides online access to over 550,000 index entries from various collections including birth, marriage and death records, colonial land records, court cases, and so on. For more information, check out the databases page here: http://www.njarchives.org/links/databases.html Kudos to Cheri Wortmann for her incredible data-entry feat, and to Vivian Thiele for making the new marriage index accessible online. Please feel free to forward this posting to any other genealogy, history or archives lists as appropriate. With best regards, Joseph R. Klett Deputy Director for Archives NJ Division of Archives & Records Management

I'm finding myself in the great but unlucky position of going to Ireland this June but before I'm ready. My ancestors came to NY via Newfoundland(NF) and Boston during the 1800's.I admit to having an aged memory and putting things away safe! I've scoured and filed all my Kavanagh & Furlong docs, prints from micro, and censuses. Here are my Irish: Thomas Furlong birth unk [virtually all the NF Furlongs came from Co Wexford] marr NF 1835: Margaret Paris who my memory says b Ireland but none of my docs indicate that. James Kavanagh of Co Wexford who married in 1813, NF his d-i-l: Ellen Kelly marr in NF 1845 said b Ireland many times & her 1914 DC says her parents were Patrick Kelly and Mary Kehoe both b Ireland and Ellen was 81 at death [@1833]. My memory says either Margaret or Ellen was from Co Tipperary but I can't find any docs to that effect. My memory says I within the last 6 mos found a doc that said Ellen was from Tipperary and gave an exact DOB in Oct 1828 [which agreed with her 1900 census]. I looked on Familysearch and found no RC records for Wexford and only Diocese of Killaloe for Tipperary. I don't know what years Killaloe covers. Are there RC films in Dublin or do I have to find out all the possible parishes and write to them? I don't have a choice about scheduling the Irish trip. My dtr set it up to go with her because I only have a few years left at best and we don't know when I'll have to go back into chemo. Any advice would be appreciated. judy

In two documents I saw that my g-grandmother was born in "S.I." but I thought it said "L.I." in script, and ignored it. Finally, Emigrant Savings Bank noted that the family moved in 1866 to "Van Pelt Pkwy, S.I." All along, the father was listed as a tailor in Manhattan, so I searched old maps for ferry routes, checked dates of origin of churches there, and BINGO! the first church I contacted had the birth certificate. Seeking contact re: Godparents. Thank you, Barb N of NYC =============== Name: Mary Elizabeth O'CONNELL > Child of: Daniel O'CONNELL & Ann CLARKE > born in : Staten Island > on the 27th day of September 1869 > Was BAPTIZED > at St. Mary of the Assumption Parish---Roman Catholic > 2230 Richmond Terrace > Staten Island, New York 10302 > on the 10th day of October 1869 > by Rev. John BARRY > SPONSORS: John DORAN [seeking information] > Eliza BENNETT [seeking information] > ======================================== > NOTES > > l) O'CONNELL family residences: moved to "Van Pelt Ave, North Shore S. I. " > from 25 Orchard St., NY, NY circa 26 August 1866; 1870 census, they resided > in Manhattan, NY > > 2) Father: Daniel O'CONNELL: Occupation: Tailor; 1836 b Clogaharkinka/-tea, > Co. Kildare; 1849, Sept. Immig to NYC via Forest King; 1859---Married:NY, > location?; 1898, March---Died Chrystie St., NY, NY > Parents: unknown > > 3) Mother: Anne CLARKE b Co. Cavan IRE @ 1839; 1893, March---Died Chrystie > St, NY, NY, > Parents: Andrew CLARKE & Margaret FARLEY/FARRELLY > > 4) Mary Elizabeth O'CONEELL md Frank SNELLBACK, June 1890 St. Patrick's Old > Cathedral; Died 1952 Astoria, Queens Co, NYC > > 5) Sponsor, John DORAN probably related to CLARKE family > > 6) Sponsor Eliza BENNETT probably sister of Daniel O'CONNELL > > 7) Cardinal John Murphy FARLEY was once assigned to a parish in Staten > Island as a priest. He is related to my CLARKE family. > > SURNAMES: > O'CONNELL, CLARKE, FARLEY/FARRELLY, DORAN, BENNETT, SNELLBACK > ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621488x1201450096/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62)

St. Joseph's Catholic Church of Greenwich Village was the only church that was uncooperative. I've acquired many certificates over the years. The gals over at St. Patrick's Old Cathedral were so fantastic, that they found Baptisms of two babies who died so young that they were never recorded in the family Bible. B carmodyp@bellsouth.net writes: > I have had similar problems requesting certificates or at least a look > up to see if my Parents and/or grandparents married at "certain" Rc > churches in NYC and never received an answer to any much less a > certificate...The lady there was very helpful in finding info in regard to > death/buriel info on relatives so she should be able to help you with a > baptismal. It is possible maybe that that church has records at > another area church. > ************** Hurry! April 15th is almost here. File your Federal taxes FREE with TaxACT. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220239440x1201335902/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.taxact.com%2F08tax.asp%3Fsc%3D084102950001%26p%3D82)

Miz Scarlett I have had similar problems requesting certificates or at least a look up to see if my Parents and/or grandparents married at "certain" Rc churches in NYC and never received an answer to any much less a certificate. I suggest in yur case possibly a letter to the Archdicese of St. Patrick's , I'm not sure of completer address at this moment but a google look up you should be able to find. Or Address it to 50th Street and 5th Ave. NYC. The lady there was very helpful in finding info in regard to death/buriel info on relatives so she should be able to help you with a baptismal. It is possible maybe that that church has records at another area church.

Hello Grace, St. Jos. in GV is the only parish that seems to be "user unfriendly" in my searches. Not only have they required a $25. "donation" for a Baptismal record, but this is their price for at least ten years. About ten years I asked them to confirm a Baptismal certificate that I had for my orphaned grandfather. The reason for confirmation was that the date it was provided, was when he left the orphanage. This may have been arranged for work identification, and he may not have been baptized there. or at all. Their response was that I had to request a new copy. A letter sent to their pastor went unanswered. Has anyone tried the Archdiocesan Archivist in these circumstances? Barb N of NYC ======================== > From: "Grace Smith" <gracesmith54@sbcglobal.net> > I have been trying to obtain a baptismal certificate for my great > grandmother from St. Joseph Catholic Church in Greenwich Village for about 2 years. I > have written four different letters (including a $25 check for the certificate > in each letter) to Ms. Joann Willard, the Secretary for Archives, over a > period of about 2 years. My checks have never been cashed, nor have my requests > been acknowledged. Does anyone know what is going on at St. Joseph's? ************** New Low Prices on Dell Laptops – Starting at $399 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220433304x1201394525/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fad.doubl eclick.net%2Fclk%3B213540718%3B35046385%3Be)

I have added a new section to my website for County Monaghan. It is still being configured and designed but I wanted to get the Ballybay Civil Parish tithe apploments online so have connected it today. These tithe applotments were huge with over 900 names. It was conducted in 1829 and it gives a good idea of who was living in the area at the time. Much like the Griffith's Valuation, however, it only list head of households. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

I can imagine your frustration. Why don't you give her a call...the squeaky wheel gets the grease. 212-741-1274 I had much the same problem, though not nearly as long, until I called and talked to the archivist. Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grace Smith" <gracesmith54@sbcglobal.net> To: "New York" <NY-Irish-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 7:18:26 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [NY-IRISH] St. Joseph Catholic Church in Greenwich Village I have been trying to obtain a baptismal certificate for my great grandmother from St. Joseph Catholic Church in Greenwich Village for about 2 years. I have written four different letters (including a $25 check for the certificate in each letter) to Ms. Joann Willard, the Secretary for Archives, over a period of about 2 years. My checks have never been cashed, nor have my requests been acknowledged. Does anyone know what is going on at St. Joseph's? Thanks, Grace Smith ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm not, but I'm a happy customer. ;-) I actually prefer it to Bailey's. Claire K. On Mar 28, 2009, at 11:09 PM, MizScarlettNY@aol.com wrote: > Might one of you be related to the company that makes "Irish Cream?" > Barb >

I have been trying to obtain a baptismal certificate for my great grandmother from St. Joseph Catholic Church in Greenwich Village for about 2 years.  I have written four different letters (including a $25 check for the certificate in each letter) to Ms. Joann Willard, the Secretary for Archives, over a period of about 2 years.  My checks have never been cashed, nor have my requests been acknowledged.  Does anyone know what is going on at St. Joseph's?   Thanks, Grace Smith

------Original Message------ From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com Sender: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com ReplyTo: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] NYC death certificate Sent: Mar 28, 2009 8:09 PM Might one of you be related to the company that makes "Irish Cream?" Barb dubhlaoich@qconline.com writes: > Seems like I've been in touch with you three. Just thought I would > toss in my Carolans from Nobber, Co. Meath. There were at least three - > Thomas and two children, Julia and Bernard - who came over in 1850 and 1852 > to New Jersey, then on to Illinois. Could be there were others who stayed in > the east but there's no proof....yet. > > Thanks, > > JD ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Might one of you be related to the company that makes "Irish Cream?" Barb dubhlaoich@qconline.com writes: > Seems like I've been in touch with you three. Just thought I would > toss in my Carolans from Nobber, Co. Meath. There were at least three - > Thomas and two children, Julia and Bernard - who came over in 1850 and 1852 > to New Jersey, then on to Illinois. Could be there were others who stayed in > the east but there's no proof....yet. > > Thanks, > > JD ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)

Seems like I've been in touch with you three. Just thought I would toss in my Carolans from Nobber, Co. Meath. There were at least three - Thomas and two children, Julia and Bernard - who came over in 1850 and 1852 to New Jersey, then on to Illinois. Could be there were others who stayed in the east but there's no proof....yet. Thanks, JD -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Claire K Sent: Saturday, March 28, 2009 6:53 PM To: Kelly6424@hotmail.com; ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] NYC death certificate Kath, Don't jump to a Dublin / Cavan location too quickly. My Carolans are from Co. Tyrone, where there are a LOT of Carolans, and very few of them show up in the IGI, assuming that's the FamilySearch database you refer to. Patricia, I have Carolans from Meenachrane, Co. Tyrone and Philadelphia, PA; Farrells from Waterford and Philadelphia (no connection between them -- the Carolans are on one side of the family, the Farrells on the other). Highly unlikely we'd be connected, as neither is an uncommon name, but seeing the two together in your post did make me wonder. Patricia, As for your question -- No one could easily look up this cert for you without knowing the year and borough. You are pretty sure your Margaret Farrell would have died in Manhattan; did you find the possible cert number in an index and was it for Manhattan? the index should tell you the year, too. HTH Claire K. On Mar 28, 2009, at 3:51 PM, kelly 6424 wrote: > > Patricia.. > > Do you know where she was from in Ireland? Does either Dublin or Cavan > sound familiar? I figure she was born in 1866/7 and on the LDS site > (google 'family search') ther are alot of hits for "margaret > carolan".. > > Kath > NYC > > ---------------------------------------- >> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:57:15 -0400 >> From: drfarrell22@gmail.com >> To: Kelly6424@hotmail.com; ny-irish@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] NYC death certificate >> >> Her name was Margaret Farrell (nee Carolan/Carlin), born in Ireland, >> probably died between 1932-1936 in Manhattan.... >> I know she died in St. Luke's Hospital because my mother told me many >> years ago.... >> >>> ... >>> ---------------------------------------- >>>> Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 14:04:02 -0400 >>>> From: drfarrell22@gmail.com >>>> To: NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: [NY-IRISH] NYC death certificate >>>> >>>> I'm wondering if anyone can look up a NYC death certificate for me >>>> (my paternal grandmother).... >>>> >>>> I believe it is #*12027* and she died in the 1930s, probably at St. >>>> Luke Hospital in Manhattan.... ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message