I have just added the following civil parish tithe applotments to the County Limerick section of my website: Athneasy, Athlacca. Sad to say, while Askeaton Civil Parish was on the same film, it was impossible to read. In fact, the whole film was hard to read, so read my transcription notes carefully to see what problems I encountered for the parish. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

I am passing this on.... Philadelphia-area Meetup Philadelphia-area Residents - Mark Your Calendars! There will be an informal "meetup" of members and friends of the Ulster American Society in the Philadelphia area on Monday, October 5th, 2009 from 5:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. at Kildare's, 826 Dekalb Pike, King of Prussia, PA, www.kildarespub.com <http://www.ulsteramerican.org/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=420&qid=117167>, 610-337-4772. The event is free but guests are responsible to pay for any food or beverages they order. 10% of our guests' receipts will be donated to the Ulster American Society. Click here to register <http://www.ulsteramerican.org/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=425&qid=117167>. There is no obligation to attend. Come and go as you please. *Bring a friend -- all are welcome!* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Click here <http://www.ulsteramerican.org/sites/all/modules/civicrm/extern/url.php?u=422&qid=117167> to visit the Ulster American Society's web site. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

I have just added to the County Galway section of my website, the tithe applotments for the following County Galway civil parishes: Ardrahan, Athenry and Inishmore. The film that they were on was a hardship. Because all the tithes on this film were hard to read (light pen strokes did not show up), please read my transcription notes carefully. In the Athenry parish, townlands from bordering parishes were found and not included in my transcription. Also, Inishmore was listed as Arranmore Civil Parish. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Does anyone know what years she was a Dominican nun, her name as a sister and at what schools she taught? Thanks. Nora Hopkins FitzGerald In a message dated 8/3/2009 3:06:33 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, _MizScarlettNY@aol.com_ (mailto:MizScarlettNY@aol.com) writes: A frequent contributor to our NYC lists for many years, Elizabeth V. CARDINAL passed on in Naples Florida, in July 2009. Her former profession, as a Dominican nun in Blauvelt, NY, inspired her to contribute to issues of Catholic practices and facilities. Additionally, she began an online web group to offer support to former sisters of all orders, which she led. _Elizabeth Cardinal?s Obituary by the Naples Daily News._ (http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/naplesnews/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pi d=129373633) **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=htt p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) ------------------------------ To contact the NY-IRISH list administrator, send an email to NY-IRISH-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the NY-IRISH mailing list, send an email to NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of NY-IRISH Digest, Vol 4, Issue 132 **************************************** **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115)

A frequent contributor to our NYC lists for many years, Elizabeth V. CARDINAL passed on in Naples Florida, in July 2009. Her former profession, as a Dominican nun in Blauvelt, NY, inspired her to contribute to issues of Catholic practices and facilities. Additionally, she began an online web group to offer support to former sisters of all orders, which she led. _Elizabeth Cardinal’s Obituary by the Naples Daily News._ (http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/naplesnews/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=129373633) **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115)

I have just finished a new update for the County Tipperary website on the Ireland GenWeb Project site at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/~irltip/ I have added webpages for the following civil parishes: Moyne, Uskane, Athnid, Ardmayle and Ardfinnan. Each site has links to all the townlands found in the parish, plus available Family History Library films for the parish and links, plus a parish map with all the townlands delineated. There are now webpages on the site for 89 Civil Parishes and 1,584 townlands. Other pages, such as Records and Links are also updated with new information. Many townland pages have also been updated with pictures, surname and links. If you have any records, pictures or suggestions to add to the site, email me off the list. I can use lots of help. There are over 3,000 townlands in County Tipperary and this update went over the half way mark, still a lot of work left. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

I have just transcribed and put on line on the Tipperary section of my website, the tithe applotment indexes for Ardfinnan, Ardmayle and Athnid Civil Parishes. Please read the transcription notes carefully because I encountered a number of problems with the film. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Here is an obituary I found on this site...It is really something and speaks to the mores at the time. http://www.genealogybuff.com/ny/ny-misc.htm HER HEART BROKEN--from the Elmira Telegram HAMMONDSPORT, N.Y.--Dec. 25--On Tuesday of this week in our little village was played the last act of a sad, sad drama, and at 12 o'clock the curtain fell and the many spectators turned away from the new made grave of a beautiful and innocent girl with eyes red with weeping and hearts filled with sorrow, and many, we hope and doubt not, were sore and sick with remorse over the cruel words and thoughts that had been the principal means of laying her there years before her time. But it is over now and all that was mortal of poor Mary Bradley quietly rests in a beautiful bed of flowers and satin, far out of the reach and past the cruel sting of false and lying tongues, and her pure and gentle spirit has gone, we feel and trust, to a far kinder and more lenient judge than she found here among the people of her own creed and society. An account of the opening scenes of this sad tragedy was given in the columns of the Telegram some time in June last in an article dated from Bath, which gave the particulars of a circumstance alleged to have been witnessed during a walk through "the glen", just outside this village, by the Rev. Father Agler, at the time in charge of a church at this place, and Rev. Father McGinn, of Rochester, who were visiting here at the time. THS STORY IN SUBSTANCE--as it was given to the Telegram was: A Sabbath or two after the departure of the he loved and respected visiting priest, Father Agler related to his congregation the scene and act he claimed to have witnessed, however, giving no names to the partied, consequently, as is always the case in a small town like this, the report spread like wild fire, and every one was on the qui vive to find out who were the guilty partied, but every act and word of Agler for several weeks following in regard to the scandal was watched and reported from mouth to mouth. Sometimes the dark suspicion would seem to rest on one and sometimes on another, until finally it was decided by nine-tenths of the church society that the guilty girl, and the young man was said to have been a Protestant--was none other than handsome, quiet, unassuming Mary bradley, a girl who had always been stood the very highest in her church and own immediate circle of society, having been for a long time president of a society comprising about thirty young ladies of her church, and possessing a sunny, happy disposition. Her attractive ways won for her the admiration and respect of every one in the community outside her own church as well as in it. As a consequence in a few days tongues ran wild, those who had heretofore been deemed her firmest friends. WERE NOW THE ONES TO SAY THE--bitterest things against her and her good name. At that time she held a responsible position as clerk in the post office here, and many a time during the few weeks following was subjected to the most cutting taunts and insults from her own church people. The remainder of the community hardly knew what to think and merely looked on and wondered "how it would all come out." Very many people, however, firmly stood by poor Mary and never for a moment let a doubt of her innocence (whoever else might be the guilty one), enter their hearts and she was ever treated throughout all her trouble with the utmost kindness and respect by many persons, and every thing possible done to comfort and soothe her wounded feelings. But all of this was of no use, it was as gall and wormwood to her proud heart that her old friends turned against her so, and she soon on the score of poor health resigned her position in the post office. One Sunday evening, a few weeks after the commencement of the scandal, while it was still at fever heat, Agler left town on a short journey and at noon the next day the beautiful new Catholic church just built two seasons ago at a cost of about $8,000, was discovered to be on fire, but by the gallant efforts of the people and the fire department it was saved although badly smoked and soaked with water. The origin of the fire was found to have been in the cellar, where piles of kindling, smelling strongly of kerosene, had to all appearance been smoldering for hours, and had not the doors and windows been closed and the cellar nearly air tight the general opinion was the fire would have broken out in the early morning before anyone was astir, and no doubt had that been the case their handsome little church would have now been lying in ashes. Agler was immediately notified and came home at once and was terribly nervous and distressed over the whole affair. that same evening, after midnight, he was driven to Bath station by one of his parish ioners and has never since been seen or heard of directly by a soul in this place. Prominent members of his congregation say that their bishop knows no more about him than they themselves, and it is stated on good authority that several members of his flock are many dollars poorer by him, as he took with him sums belonging to them varying from $6 to $600. Many different rumors are also afloat as regards his present whereabouts. Many think he is dead, others that he has gone to Rome, and there are others still who say that he is in Canada where he cast off the robes of priesthood and married a lady of wealth. But all this, however, is gossip, and your correspondent cannot say how much of it is truth or how much false. As regards Miss Bradley's troubles, those who had merely thought her innocent and had wondered who the guilty parties really were, decided at once that the vile story had been aimed at poor Mary, and that she was an innocent victim of malice. During the long, weary months of suffering that followed she and her widowed mother and loving sisters have possessed the love and deepest sympathy of a large portion of the community who have nobly stood by the poor girl and her stricken family to the last. The affair told terribly on the sensitive heart of this innocent girl and the weary weeks rolled by brightened, however, by tokens of love and affection from friends far and near, who proved true until death and after. Her sick room was literally one greenhouse of the choicest flowers and delicacies of fruit and game, to temp the appetite of an invalid, where constantly at hand, but it was all of no use, the silver thread that bound her to earth had been rudely broken by false and malicious tongues, and on Saturday evening about 10'oclock she closed her eyes to earthly things and sweetly fell asleep. The funeral was held on Tuesday, December 21. The remains, inclosed in an elegant white casket, were followed to the church by a large concourse of sorrowing and sympathetic friends. Beautiful and expensive hothouse flowers were sent in great profusion from friends here and from other places as well, who had known and loved her in life and wished to do honor to her in death. The services at the church were conducted by the Rev. Father O'Laughlin, of Buffalo, a cousin ot the deceased, assisted by Fathers McGinn, of Rochester; O'Boyne, of Buffalo; Baxter of Bath, and Naughton, of this place. It was the noble Rev. Father McGinn whom Agler claimed was with him at the time of making the discovery in the gien, out of which grew all this terrible trouble. It was one of poor Mary's earnest requests that he be present at her burial, that he might , before the Protestant public, more fully vindicate her fair name. The good and pious priest spoke very tenderly and feelingly of the whole affair, and said, that as God was his judge, the whole story was as black and false a lie as ever stained the spotless name of a fair and innocent girl, and that Mary Bradley died as pure and virtuous as she had always lived ; that she gave all she had to give to vindicate her good name (her life); that her sad death should be a warning and a sorrow to her church, they who had so wronged and driven her to her death. All honor to this noble priest for his splendid words of vindication. We doubt not that some learned doctors might say she died of consumption, but we, who are acquainted with all the circumstances, know that it was of a broken heart she died, caused by cruel words and acts of those who should have been her truest friends. By some she was persecuted to the last, as her dying request as to who should sing at mass for her departed soul, was refused; and as the good and beloved Father McGinn feelingly said, with tears in his eyes, at the close of his remarks, in reference to that last insult; "This cruel and malicious malice and persecution by her own has truly followed this innocent and virtuous girl even into her grave." ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Cribbs" <cribbswh@gt.rr.com> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:40:40 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [NY-IRISH] New York obituaries added Hi all, A bunch of New York obituaries have been added to GenealogyBuff.com in the User-Contributed Data Forum. The New York files have been broken out as with all of the states and can be found at http://www.genealogybuff.com/ucd/states/ny_ucd.htm Similarly, the Obituary Forum entries for New York forum can be found at http://www.genealogybuff.com/uco/states/ny_uco.htm The Library of Files for New York can be found at http://www.genealogybuff.com/ny/ New York Newspapers can be researched from http://www.genealogybuff.com/np/newyork_newspapers.htm The Cities of New York can be found at http://www.genealogybuff.com/us_cities/newyork_cities.htm The Counties of New York can be found at http://www.genealogybuff.com/us_counties/newyork_counties.htm Other valuable parts of the site are: Search Central - http://www.genealogybuff.com/search.htm Library of Files - http://www.genealogybuff.com/library.htm Research Tools - http://www.genealogybuff.com/research.htm Canadian Obituary Forum - http://www.genealogybuff.com/canada-bbs/webbbs_config.pl Free Ancestry Databases Shortcut - http://www.genealogybuff.com/ancestry_free.htm Hope this helps. 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Hi all, A bunch of New York obituaries have been added to GenealogyBuff.com in the User-Contributed Data Forum. The New York files have been broken out as with all of the states and can be found at http://www.genealogybuff.com/ucd/states/ny_ucd.htm Similarly, the Obituary Forum entries for New York forum can be found at http://www.genealogybuff.com/uco/states/ny_uco.htm The Library of Files for New York can be found at http://www.genealogybuff.com/ny/ New York Newspapers can be researched from http://www.genealogybuff.com/np/newyork_newspapers.htm The Cities of New York can be found at http://www.genealogybuff.com/us_cities/newyork_cities.htm The Counties of New York can be found at http://www.genealogybuff.com/us_counties/newyork_counties.htm Other valuable parts of the site are: Search Central - http://www.genealogybuff.com/search.htm Library of Files - http://www.genealogybuff.com/library.htm Research Tools - http://www.genealogybuff.com/research.htm Canadian Obituary Forum - http://www.genealogybuff.com/canada-bbs/webbbs_config.pl Free Ancestry Databases Shortcut - http://www.genealogybuff.com/ancestry_free.htm Hope this helps. Bill

Hi, I see three Patrick Higgins in the 1865 Trow. Higgins Patrick, laborer, h 86 Sheriff Higgins Patrick, laborer, h 28 Roosevelt Higgins Patrick, morocco, h 9 Vandewater I am assuming the "morocco" means he was a leather-worker. There is also: (since Nellie is a nickname for Ellen) Higgins Ellen, medicine, h 29 E 11th Higgins Ellen, wid. Thomas, h 80 W 25th Higgins E. wid James, h 184 1/2 Ludlow and: Higgins Edward, janitor, h 146 Grand Higgins Edward, laborer, h 801 First av. Higgins Edward, plumber, h 224 E 14th I hope this helps you.

I was looking for Patrick & Lucy Corcoran and son Patrick. I found Lucy listed as spinster. Patrick listed as Patt and no child Patrick age 1yr. Sometimes the manifest isn't perfect. -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pat Jones Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 11:30 AM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-IRISH] Need help/suggestions for a tough genealogicalsearch/brickwall First, thanks to all for the many responses/suggestions to my plea for help. This is where I stand at the moment. 1. Patrick Higgins landed in New York City in 1863. The date in the Emigrants' Savings Bank Entry is either Jan, Jun, or Jul. His son was born in late January 1864 in Ireland. Nature being what it is, that date is more than likely Jun or Jul. The ship name given is the Universe and it did land in NY in the likely timeframe - but I haven't been able to find his name on the passengers' list on any site including Steve Morse's and Ancestry that I have looked. His address is given as 57 Washington Street, City not stated. Since he was listed as a longshoreman and he had an account at the Emigrants' Savings Bank - and since the Brooklyn Bridge wasn't there at the time, my "educated" hunch is that he lived in New York on Manhattan. 2. His family came over in about 1865 (information from family memories and not confirmed by finding any passengers' listing for them as of yet). Patrick was naturalized in Iowa in September 1868. So it would appear that the family was only in the New York area from the earliest Jun 1863 to the latest Sep 1868. BTW, probably the first papers towards citizenship were done in NY State and that avenue has not yet been pursued. Anyone with knowledge of how to do this intelligently? Would they give any informtion that would be worth the effort in trying to locate them? 3. Miss Nellie Higgins, age unknown, lived in Brooklyn in 1927. She was supposed to be on a trip to visit the West. Don't know anything more about her other than she was a relative of some kind to my Grandfather, the son (above) that was born in Ireland in January 1864. I have researched the 1920 and 1930 Federal census and have some possible candidates. Next avenue of research appears to be looking for phone books, criss-cross, city directories, possibly newspapers. Other suggestions welcome. 4. Going back to research in Ireland. Patrick married Ellen/Eleanor McDermottroe in the Roman Catholic church in Boyle, Co Roscommon (proven). She was born in Copse, a tiny settlement just outside of Boyle (proven). The children were christened/baptised in the same church (proven) so one would assume that the family lived in that area. Patrick was listed as a licensed publican (tavern owner/keeper) (proven) so again, one would assume that they were living in or very near Boyle. There was a Higgins family that once owned a fairly respectful home in the area (now fallen down). That might be an avenue to pursue. As for Patrick, I do not know where he was born nor who his parents or siblings were and am in the process of looking at the LDS microfilm for the church involved to see if I can find anything. Other suggestion welcome. ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have the Trow from 1865, with Higgins's in it. If you want the info, I will check back and see if this posts. Have been having trouble posting to the list. Kitty On 7/18/09 10:51 AM, "Pat Jones" <kin-hunter25@cox.net> wrote: > I need some help/suggestions from you experienced genealogists involving a > really big brickwall. > > My grandfather once told me that when his family came over from Ireland (Co > Roscommon) to New York in the mid-1860s and then on almost immediately to > Illinois, they left behind in New York other members of his father's family; > however, he never said their names of if he did, I have no memory of them. I > do not know anything about his father's family and am trying to trace them in > both New York and Ireland. This request pertains only to New York. > > His father, Patrick Higgins, came over ahead of his wife and children in 1863 > and informtion in the Emigrants' Saving Bank Enrties indict that he was > working as a long shoreman and living at 57 Washington St, no city given. I > am told that there is/was a 57 Washington Street in both New York City and > Brooklyn at that time, so I'm not sure of which city Washington Street would > have been in. The only other clue is that the family no doubt was Catholic. > > Then I found this little notice in the newspaper from Decatur, Illinois. > Newspaper article, Decatur (Illinois) Daily Review, 14 Aug 1927 indicates that > a Miss Nellie Higgins of Brooklyn, NY was the guest of Mr and Mrs Edward > Higgins, 1052 East Eldorado St. > Edward Higgins was my grandfather and I'm thinking that Nellie Higgins may be > a descendant of the family left behind in New York. Finding information about > her and her family is the only hint I have. > > How would you go about following up on this lead with the little information I > have? I have no living relatives that can shed any light. I've tried Federal > census without much success and have been told that city directories aren't > available. Who knows if she had a phone and if so, how it was listed. I'm > stuck. > > kin-hunter25@cox.net Oklahoma > > > > > > > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add > your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

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First, thanks to all for the many responses/suggestions to my plea for help. This is where I stand at the moment. 1. Patrick Higgins landed in New York City in 1863. The date in the Emigrants' Savings Bank Entry is either Jan, Jun, or Jul. His son was born in late January 1864 in Ireland. Nature being what it is, that date is more than likely Jun or Jul. The ship name given is the Universe and it did land in NY in the likely timeframe - but I haven't been able to find his name on the passengers' list on any site including Steve Morse's and Ancestry that I have looked. His address is given as 57 Washington Street, City not stated. Since he was listed as a longshoreman and he had an account at the Emigrants' Savings Bank - and since the Brooklyn Bridge wasn't there at the time, my "educated" hunch is that he lived in New York on Manhattan. 2. His family came over in about 1865 (information from family memories and not confirmed by finding any passengers' listing for them as of yet). Patrick was naturalized in Iowa in September 1868. So it would appear that the family was only in the New York area from the earliest Jun 1863 to the latest Sep 1868. BTW, probably the first papers towards citizenship were done in NY State and that avenue has not yet been pursued. Anyone with knowledge of how to do this intelligently? Would they give any informtion that would be worth the effort in trying to locate them? 3. Miss Nellie Higgins, age unknown, lived in Brooklyn in 1927. She was supposed to be on a trip to visit the West. Don't know anything more about her other than she was a relative of some kind to my Grandfather, the son (above) that was born in Ireland in January 1864. I have researched the 1920 and 1930 Federal census and have some possible candidates. Next avenue of research appears to be looking for phone books, criss-cross, city directories, possibly newspapers. Other suggestions welcome. 4. Going back to research in Ireland. Patrick married Ellen/Eleanor McDermottroe in the Roman Catholic church in Boyle, Co Roscommon (proven). She was born in Copse, a tiny settlement just outside of Boyle (proven). The children were christened/baptised in the same church (proven) so one would assume that the family lived in that area. Patrick was listed as a licensed publican (tavern owner/keeper) (proven) so again, one would assume that they were living in or very near Boyle. There was a Higgins family that once owned a fairly respectful home in the area (now fallen down). That might be an avenue to pursue. As for Patrick, I do not know where he was born nor who his parents or siblings were and am in the process of looking at the LDS microfilm for the church involved to see if I can find anything. Other suggestion welcome.

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I found a wonderful 1865 Viele Map of Manhattan online and it clearly shows Washington Street. Next question - would 57 Washington street be on the Battery/Castle Garden end of the street? If so, the docks are right there and the Emigrants Savings Bank (original location on Chambers St) not a far walk from Battery Park. Now I have a wonderful picture to add to the family database.

Have you tried google? Maybe some of the sites will help you find a contact person. On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:40 AM, Annie Nolan<annie.nolan1@btinternet.com> wrote: > > Please let me know how to contact County Clare Men's Association New York City. > > Thank you, > > Annie -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Using google I was able to find a few churches with Bethel in their names. I suggest you try google and see if any of the results help. On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Patricia Richardson<liz3638@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi List, Where would i find where this church, Bethel, a protestant episcopal was in 1855. I know it was in lower manhattan. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

What was Patrick's wife's name? His father's name? Definately are Higgins in Roscommon. What was Edwards mother's maiden name? Edward's wife's maiden name? First /last names? Was Edward born in Ireland or NYC or Illinois? Approx year? Edwards siblings names? Kelly ---------------------------------------- > From: kin-hunter25@cox.net > To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:51:56 -0500 > Subject: [NY-IRISH] Need help/suggestions for a tough genealogical search/brickwall > > I need some help/suggestions from you experienced genealogists involving a really big brickwall. > > My grandfather once told me that when his family came over from Ireland (Co Roscommon) to New York in the mid-1860s and then on almost immediately to Illinois, they left behind in New York other members of his father's family; however, he never said their names of if he did, I have no memory of them. I do not know anything about his father's family and am trying to trace them in both New York and Ireland. This request pertains only to New York. > > His father, Patrick Higgins, came over ahead of his wife and children in 1863 and informtion in the Emigrants' Saving Bank Enrties indict that he was working as a long shoreman and living at 57 Washington St, no city given. I am told that there is/was a 57 Washington Street in both New York City and Brooklyn at that time, so I'm not sure of which city Washington Street would have been in. The only other clue is that the family no doubt was Catholic. > > Then I found this little notice in the newspaper from Decatur, Illinois. Newspaper article, Decatur (Illinois) Daily Review, 14 Aug 1927 indicates that a Miss Nellie Higgins of Brooklyn, NY was the guest of Mr and Mrs Edward Higgins, 1052 East Eldorado St. > Edward Higgins was my grandfather and I'm thinking that Nellie Higgins may be a descendant of the family left behind in New York. Finding information about her and her family is the only hint I have. > > How would you go about following up on this lead with the little information I have? I have no living relatives that can shed any light. I've tried Federal census without much success and have been told that city directories aren't available. Who knows if she had a phone and if so, how it was listed. I'm stuck. > > kin-hunter25@cox.net Oklahoma > > > > > > > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®: Celebrate the moment with your favorite sports pics. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_QA_HM_sports_photos_072009&cat=sports