Someone posted seeking a headstone photographer for St. Raymond's Cemetery in the Bronx. Please contact me offlist, if you are interested. Barb NYC Researcher Cemetery Photographer

No. NY City Clerk marriage licenses began in 1908. However, the NYC Department of Health marriage certificates became law in 1880, although those married sacramentally in a RC parish, often ignored this law. Barb NYC Researcher jtorre@prodigy.net writes: > Great informtion Barb. Thank you. I know that at the NYC Municipal > Archives there are indexes and DOH certificates for marriages before 1908. Are > there also NY City Clerk licenses before 1908? > > J Torre

Would someone kindly clarify Clare's search info, date, and county?  Thank you. This was Clare's original question In a message dated 8/12/09 3:26:59 PM, clarehiggins@comcast.net writes: > Hi, everybody. My great-grandfather, John Lynch, was a sewer worker in > New > York City. Tragically, he drowned in a sewer flood on August 26 in 1908. I > obtained a copy of his death certificate from the NY Dept of Health in New > York City. At the bottom, where it said cause of death was "submersion," > it > also said, "Inquest pending." > > I couldn't stay long enough at the Dept of Health to investigate this. > Does > anyone know how I can find results of the inquest? Should I go back to the > Dept of Health, or look elsewhere? > > Thanks for any help. > > Clare Higgins > >

Would someone kindly clarify Clare's search info, date, and county? Thank you.

In a message dated 8/13/09 11:17:54 AM, clarehiggins@comcast.net writes: > There's a New York State library in Albany. I'll check them out. They > might > have one! Thanks! > > > > Clare > Great Let me know how you make out--IL had the archives in regional libraries at colleges around the state and I just had to check the correct region Erica

Clare, I don't know if the site I'm enclosing will be of any help to you, but you might want to look at it. Also, Barb (Miz Scarlett) is extremely knowledgeable about NYC. She might be able to steer you in the right direction. Good luck. Terry Bora Mich. http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/collections/collections_coroner.shtml ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare Higgins" <clarehiggins@comcast.net> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 3:26 PM Subject: [NY-IRISH] Finding Inquest Information > Hi, everybody. My great-grandfather, John Lynch, was a sewer worker in New > York City. Tragically, he drowned in a sewer flood on August 26 in 1908. I > obtained a copy of his death certificate from the NY Dept of Health in New > York City. At the bottom, where it said cause of death was "submersion," > it > also said, "Inquest pending." > > I couldn't stay long enough at the Dept of Health to investigate this. > Does > anyone know how I can find results of the inquest? Should I go back to the > Dept of Health, or look elsewhere? > > Thanks for any help. > > Clare Higgins > >

There's a New York State library in Albany. I'll check them out. They might have one! Thanks! Clare _____ From: VOOLICH@aol.com [mailto:VOOLICH@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:25 PM To: clarehiggins@comcast.net; ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Finding Inquest Information Clare In Illinois the results of the coroner's inquests were in the state archives and I was able to get a copy of one (by mail) from the 1890s. Erica In a message dated 8/12/09 3:26:59 PM, clarehiggins@comcast.net writes: Hi, everybody. My great-grandfather, John Lynch, was a sewer worker in New York City. Tragically, he drowned in a sewer flood on August 26 in 1908. I obtained a copy of his death certificate from the NY Dept of Health in New York City. At the bottom, where it said cause of death was "submersion," it also said, "Inquest pending." I couldn't stay long enough at the Dept of Health to investigate this. Does anyone know how I can find results of the inquest? Should I go back to the Dept of Health, or look elsewhere? Thanks for any help. Clare Higgins ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Clare In Illinois the results of the coroner's inquests were in the state archives and I was able to get a copy of one (by mail) from the 1890s. Erica In a message dated 8/12/09 3:26:59 PM, clarehiggins@comcast.net writes: > Hi, everybody. My great-grandfather, John Lynch, was a sewer worker in > New > York City. Tragically, he drowned in a sewer flood on August 26 in 1908. I > obtained a copy of his death certificate from the NY Dept of Health in New > York City. At the bottom, where it said cause of death was "submersion," > it > also said, "Inquest pending." > > I couldn't stay long enough at the Dept of Health to investigate this. > Does > anyone know how I can find results of the inquest? Should I go back to the > Dept of Health, or look elsewhere? > > Thanks for any help. > > Clare Higgins > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > >

True. I did a lot of rolling down of windows and grinding of gears before I got the hang of it - first on the left in California (I learned in Ireland), then on the right when I moved back. BTW - where on earth did "Eddied" come from? Or was someone trying to say "Ed died"? In which case, I hope they didn't mean me! :) No offense taken, but it's definitely the strangest misnomer on my list. EDEL Codd, Tralee In Kerry/Dingle Peninsula: ASHE-Camp & Ballyknockane, & related; BROSNAN-Dingle Town, & related; CAVANAUGH–Holyoke, MA area (related to BROSNAN) In Wexford: CODD, Woodlands & Carne, & related; FARDY, Coolboy, Gusserane, & related; PRESCOTT – Albany, NY --- On Wed, 8/12/09, John Steitz <johnst@luckbros.com> wrote: From: John Steitz <johnst@luckbros.com> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Eddied Codd.re Paulines e-mail To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 10:53 AM The left handed stick shift is a bit tricky on the mountain passes but a little wear and tear and tear on a rental car's clutch is ok. :) John Steitz Luck Brothers, Inc. 73 Trade Road Plattsburgh, NY 12901 518-561-4321 T 518-561-8462 F 518-569-0140 C johnst@luckbros.com -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of pat lewis Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:17 PM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-IRISH] Eddied Codd.re Paulines e-mail Thanks for the input and addition to Pauline's message about renting cars in Ireland/England. I will definitly be checkin into Avis and hertzz re this  ne w policy where over 75 can drive..... and YES I do and can drive stick shift........was a bus driver for  many years before automatic shifts came into being for them.drove  stick shift in all but 2  owned cars, and taught my kids  on stick shifts........... Thanks for the update. ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, everybody. My great-grandfather, John Lynch, was a sewer worker in New York City. Tragically, he drowned in a sewer flood on August 26 in 1908. I obtained a copy of his death certificate from the NY Dept of Health in New York City. At the bottom, where it said cause of death was "submersion," it also said, "Inquest pending." I couldn't stay long enough at the Dept of Health to investigate this. Does anyone know how I can find results of the inquest? Should I go back to the Dept of Health, or look elsewhere? Thanks for any help. Clare Higgins

I hope this will clarify the topic of NYC Marriages. >From 1908 to 1937 two NYC governmental entities hold civil [non religious copies] of marriage records: l ) the NYC Department of Health [DOH], & 2 ) the New York City Clerk's Office. A) The DOH marriage certificate is post facto, after the deed was done. The index to the DOH marriages are searchable online, thanks to hundreds of volunteer transcribers in the NYC metro area for the German and Italian Genealogy Groups. Marriages cited via the homepages of GGG & IGG, search-engine-whiz Steve Morse, and requested from the NYC Municipal Archives [1908-1937] are DOH copies. B) The New York City Clerk's marriage license was filed pre-marriage; think of it as the declaration of intentions for marriages 1908-1937. License applications were frequently posted in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle newspaper. However, a marriage license filing does not insure that a marriage eventually occurred. These records are only searchable in person at the NYC Municipal Archives, 31 Chambers Street. The Muni staff does not perform searches of these files. Marriage licenses are much more time consuming to find; there is no index, marriages are filed by borough and then year. So, if you are uncertain about the year or borough, it will take a professional researcher longer to locate the marriage license than the DOH record. The upside of a license copy is its rich gengealogical information. It's a fabulous resource for Roman Catholic marriage records, especially Irish Catholics, who married sacramentally in their local parishes. Barb NYC Marriage License Researcher @BL-8/12/2009 ========================================= 8/12/09, BSKTBTQUE@aol.com <BSKTBTQUE@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > I was able to receive my Great Uncle's Marriage License, Certificate > and > > Record of Marriage and Clergymen record. > > > > I do have a question, hopefully somone on list will be able to answer > it. > > > > The affadavit for License to Marry has no date on it (saw applicantion > > info on Bklyn Eagle dated Oct. 15, 1915). The Certificate and Record > of > > Marriage has date of October 22, 1915 but the Clergymen and Magistrates > > copy > > says they were married on November 13, 1915. Why two different > dates?...

The left handed stick shift is a bit tricky on the mountain passes but a little wear and tear and tear on a rental car's clutch is ok. :) John Steitz Luck Brothers, Inc. 73 Trade Road Plattsburgh, NY 12901 518-561-4321 T 518-561-8462 F 518-569-0140 C johnst@luckbros.com -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of pat lewis Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:17 PM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-IRISH] Eddied Codd.re Paulines e-mail Thanks for the input and addition to Pauline's message about renting cars in Ireland/England. I will definitly be checkin into Avis and hertzz re this ne w policy where over 75 can drive..... and YES I do and can drive stick shift........was a bus driver for many years before automatic shifts came into being for them.drove stick shift in all but 2 owned cars, and taught my kids on stick shifts........... Thanks for the update. ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the input and addition to Pauline's message about renting cars in Ireland/England. I will definitly be checkin into Avis and hertzz re this ne w policy where over 75 can drive..... and YES I do and can drive stick shift........was a bus driver for many years before automatic shifts came into being for them.drove stick shift in all but 2 owned cars, and taught my kids on stick shifts........... Thanks for the update.

A couple of things: This is a PRACTICE of the car rental companies, and not a law. It is legal for people over the age of 70 to drive. Secondly, as it is only a practice and not a law, the agreement cited only applies to that particular rental company. You should check with whomever you're renting from before you get too excited. Also, be aware that you still have to be in good health and will probably have to have current motor insurance before the company will rent you the car.  For any American renting a car (or anyone who typically drives an automatic) - if you are comfortable driving a stick shift, specify that's what you want. The difference between the price of renting a stick versus an automatic borders on scalping (in my opinion). For anyone driving in Ireland, a couple of other odd practices they have here that I've seen cause confusion and trouble - If a driver flashes his lights at you, it means one of two things, depending on the circumstances: If you're on a windy road and simply passing each other, there's some sort of obstruction ahead and you should slow down. Often as not, it's sheep or cattle on the road.  If you're trying to turn, he's indicating he's giving you right of way. Secondly, if you come upon a vehicle with it's hazards on, slow down and try to see around the vehicle. DO NOT pass it. Hazard lights are required when a vehicle has to stop where it shouldn't regardless of the cause. It does not mean that the vehicle is broken down. There could be road works or an accident ahead. Apparently, a car with it's brake lights on is not considered sufficient inducement to the vehicle coming up behind to stop. This particular practice still confuses the heck out of me, and I can never remember to put mine on - I still think a brake light says "STOP!" Edel Codd, Tralee In Kerry/Dingle Peninsula: ASHE-Camp & Ballyknockane, & related; BROSNAN-Dingle Town, & related; CAVANAUGH–Holyoke, MA area (related to BROSNAN) In Wexford: CODD, Woodlands & Carne, & related; FARDY, Coolboy, Gusserane, & related; PRESCOTT – Albany, NY --- On Sat, 8/8/09, pat lewis <carmodyp@bellsouth.net> wrote: From: pat lewis <carmodyp@bellsouth.net> Subject: [NY-IRISH] Thanks to Pauline To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 9:56 AM In regards to message below a HUGE Thank you to Pauline Hello:                  A wise man who drove for 50 years encountered a problem on a visit to Ireland from his home in Australia.   He was told over the age of 70 he would have to pay an "age surcharge" of 25 Euros a day.   It did not sit well with him so he contacted The Equality Authority.   Read what has now changed because of this man and his challenge:  http://www.equality.ie/index.asp?docID=742 I had hoped to be able to travel once again to both England and Ireland for  a chance to see things I missed on previous trips but had been told I "HAD" to make the trip and finish it by my 75th birthday.......or pay extra IF I was allowed at all to rent a car and drive. Now "thanks" to Pauline sending this message I can stop worry about going, and make the trip next year instead. Some health problem came up which had me concerned about the trip and then the fact of being in Florida and wanting to travel between Sep't and Oct.......which is still hurricane season and the last hurricane  that hit my area and did damage was my birthday 4 years ago while I was in Kanturk, so I was doubting I would ever be able to do this trip again. Now I can make plans for a late spring trip, depending on the economy. For those of you over 70....read the site given in message above .GOOD NEWS!!!!!! ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This law has been in place for many years. My sister & I had to pay this fee too many times. -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Pauline Salmon Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 7:30 PM To: New York Irish; nybrooklyn@rootsweb.com; irish-american@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-IRISH] Age Restrictions in hiring a car in Ireland Hello: A wise man who drove for 50 years encountered a problem on a visit to Ireland from his home in Australia. He was told over the age of 70 he would have to pay an "age surcharge" of 25 Euros a day. It did not sit well with him so he contacted The Equality Authority. Read what has now changed because of this man and his challenge: http://www.equality.ie/index.asp?docID=742 ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In regards to message below a HUGE Thank you to Pauline Hello: A wise man who drove for 50 years encountered a problem on a visit to Ireland from his home in Australia. He was told over the age of 70 he would have to pay an "age surcharge" of 25 Euros a day. It did not sit well with him so he contacted The Equality Authority. Read what has now changed because of this man and his challenge: http://www.equality.ie/index.asp?docID=742 I had hoped to be able to travel once again to both England and Ireland for a chance to see things I missed on previous trips but had been told I "HAD" to make the trip and finish it by my 75th birthday.......or pay extra IF I was allowed at all to rent a car and drive. Now "thanks" to Pauline sending this message I can stop worry about going, and make the trip next year instead. Some health problem came up which had me concerned about the trip and then the fact of being in Florida and wanting to travel between Sep't and Oct.......which is still hurricane season and the last hurricane that hit my area and did damage was my birthday 4 years ago while I was in Kanturk, so I was doubting I would ever be able to do this trip again. Now I can make plans for a late spring trip, depending on the economy. For those of you over 70....read the site given in message above .GOOD NEWS!!!!!!

Hello: A wise man who drove for 50 years encountered a problem on a visit to Ireland from his home in Australia. He was told over the age of 70 he would have to pay an "age surcharge" of 25 Euros a day. It did not sit well with him so he contacted The Equality Authority. Read what has now changed because of this man and his challenge: http://www.equality.ie/index.asp?docID=742

Pauline, you may have run into a heavy volume of users when you were at the site. I just accessed the site now. I typed in three different names that I knew should be there. All came up. I would certainly keep trying. One thing I noticed was that the spelling of names seems to have to be exact. I couldn't find my Aunt Julia Linting in Detroit at first, but when I searched, using her husband's name (Hilbert Linting), it came up. Her name in the census was spelled incorrectly as 'Jewlia". Good luck. Terry Bora Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Salmon" <lordsalmon@cox.net> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] NY-IRISH Digest, Vol 4,Issue 135 Free access during August 1930 Census > Dear Listers: > > What an opportunity to be able to check the 1930 U.S. > Census records on Footnote.com for free during the month of August. > You must register. Did that. Type the names in and the answer > comes up. That worked for one person. Subsequent entries all came > up with unable to complete at this time. > It was disappointing. > > Pauline > > ====NY

Dear Listers: What an opportunity to be able to check the 1930 U.S. Census records on Footnote.com for free during the month of August. You must register. Did that. Type the names in and the answer comes up. That worked for one person. Subsequent entries all came up with unable to complete at this time. It was disappointing. Pauline

This may be of interest to some of you. It was posted today in the Eastman Gen newsletter. The 1930 US census is free for the month of Aug. You just have to register to access it. Terry Bora Michigan Subject: free access during August: 1930 US census http://go.footnote.com/1930census/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------