I can try to help you find something. What were their names? possible birth years? etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare Higgins" <clarehiggins@comcast.net> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com>; <nycolumb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:05 AM Subject: [NY-IRISH] Question: Canada Immigration Records > Hi, everybody. I have reason to believe that my great-great-grandparents > emigrated from Ireland and landed in Canada. This is because the first > record I find of them in the U.S. is a census record from 1850, in Moira, > Franklin County, New York. I've learned that Canadian immigration records > are not available on line. Does anybody know where I can go to research > them? Thanks. > > > > Clare Higgins > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, everybody. I have reason to believe that my great-great-grandparents emigrated from Ireland and landed in Canada. This is because the first record I find of them in the U.S. is a census record from 1850, in Moira, Franklin County, New York. I've learned that Canadian immigration records are not available on line. Does anybody know where I can go to research them? Thanks. Clare Higgins

Report on the Extent and Plight of Emigrants in New York. SOURCE The Belfast Mercury, April 19th, 1851 EMIGRATION TO THE UNITED STATES. - NEW YORK, APRIL 2.-The Marine Hospital at STATEN ISLAND is crowded to excess, and a New York paper observes:-" The number of poor people from Ireland who are wandering the through the streets, in a starving condition, is dreadful. Every night they go to the police station-houses for food and shelter. Last night, in the Fourth-ward station-house, there were 80 poor people, of this description, huddled together, and when food was laid before the children, they rushed at it, and devoured it like hungry wolves. Such are the victims of Irish Landlordism." - Freeman. The Marine/Quarantine Hospital operated from 1799-1858 here on Staten Island. Countless immigrants of all nationalities, entered into New York Harbor during those perilous years only to be found with infectious disease, held in quarantine at the Marine Hospital on Staten Island, died and were buried in mass graves on the compound. During the mid 19th century immigration through New York was considerable: Although no complete listing survives from the Marine Hospital of the tens of thousands of inmates, the Richmond County Mortality Schedule for a 6 month period from 1849-1850 shows that the majority of the 650 individuals listed were the victims of the Great Irish Hunger. The cemetery was largely obliterated in the 1950’s to make the current municipal parking lot. A few years ago during a recent State of New York construction project at the lot, a section of the original cemetery was found intact under the asphalt as well as finding substantial scattered human remains throughout the site. The majority of these were removed and were brought back to Staten Island yesterday, Sept. 29 courtesy of Herb Smith III, Meislohn Silvie Funeral Home. Caskets holding the remains of the immigrants that were exhumed from the St. George municipal parking lot will be brought into St. Peters Catholic Church and lead by the Staten Island Pipes and Drums, Ancient Order of Hibernian's Honor Guard for the memorial service. When: Saturday, October 17, 2009 10 AM Memorial Service: St. Peter's Catholic Church St. Marks Place, S.I. NY 10301 Edward Cardinal Egan, Monsignor James Dorney & Reverand Richard Michael officiating Reception at: 11:00 AM - 3 PM Tappen Park Oktoberfest A German/Irish Immigrant Celebration Bay Street @ Water and Canal Street Stapleton, S.I. 10304 Kilmeyers Old Bavarian Inn & Manhattan Beer Distributors will provide an Oktoberfest Cafe. Refreshments can be purchased Sponsored by: City Parks Foundation, NYC Dept. of Parks and Recreation, Friends of Abandoned Cemeteries and Ancient Order of Hibernians. Music donated by: Andy Cooney and His Band & The Moonshiners Band Lynn A. Rogers Executive Director 917-545-3309 Friends of Abandoned Cemeteries, Inc. Staten Island 158 Myrtle Avenue Staten Island, New York 10310 The Friends of Abandoned Cemeteries is a not for profit, New York State Charitable Organization incorporated in the State of NY in 1983. We currently serve to protect, preserve, beautify the 20 known S.I. abandoned, neglected or otherwise forgotten Staten Island cemeteries. We maintain approximately 40 acres of cemetery property as well as preserving the obscure burial records dating back over 200 years. We can gather the information of our ancestors for genealogy, which is the easy part. We can also provide a dignified final resting place which is the part that takes all your energy.

NARA is supposed to have records of railway employees. Barb

All aboard! In a recent online discussion, family searchers sought employment records for ancestors who worked for the railroad and early subways. I found a book, in the public domain, that is a little gold mine for family names in Canal and Railroad Reports! Train lines are not limited to New York, but include nearby areas in New Jersey, upstate New York, and other Eastern U.S. areas. Although financial records and reports are the title, names and specifics about injured employees are listed month by month, within these annual reports. At times it is indicated that such employees died from injuries sustained at work, but with the limitations of medicine in that era, a serious injury, such as a loss of a limb, may hint at in inevitable, forthcoming death. Another point is that if a NYC resident worked on a NJ line, he may have died there. Ah ha! No wonder you couldn't locate a death certificate via the NYC German or Italian Genealogy transcription projects. If you've been unlucky finding a death certificate for a male ancestor, I recommend that you search this site at> http://tinyurl.com/yjhz8je You may also be interested in searching the alphabetized biographies of Railway Officials from 1906, at> http://www.onlinebiographies.info/railroad/index.htm Source: The Biographical Directory of the Railway Officials of America Edition of 1906 Edited and compiled by T. Addison Busbey Associate Editor The Railway Age. Chicago 1906 On a link to the homepage of The Western New York Railway Archive, the anonymous author states that genealogical queries for personnel files were often lost or destroyed. SEE: http://wnyrails.org/index.htm Before you leave this site, check out the map of railway lines stretched like spaghetti across northern NYS. Plus, there are some valuable links, directly below the title. For genealogical records, the recommendation is to contact the U.S. Railroad Retirement Board at> http://www.rrb.gov/mep/genealogy.asp This should be enough homework to keep you railroad buffs busy for a week! Full steam ahead! Barb NYC Researcher

Hudson Valley Irish Fest Saturday, September 26th 1am-7pm Peekskill Riverfront Green an easy walk from the Hudson division of Metro North Irish Step Dancing! Watch the championship step dance performances! Traditional Irish Food Enjoy all of the world class traditional Irish food you can eat, along with an Irish beer of course! Irish Sport Demonstrations Learn about Gaelic Football, Hurling and more... (Join In and Play!) Irish Vendors Find a variety of Irish clothing, jewelry, photography, trinkets and more.. MUSICAL PERFORMANCES by: SHILELAGH LAW, Seisiun, The Ruffians, Mary Courtney & Morning Star, Scotty Mettey & The Craicheads, Pipebands & more! The event will raise funds to support Irish Music, Art and Culture in the lower Hudson Valley. Admission donation is $10.00 for adults. Children under 13 are free. The festival is being co-sponsored by Peekskill Division 18 of the Ancient Order of Hibernians and in cooperation with the Peekskill St. Patrick's Committee. Fine food, drink and some of the best Irish beers will also be on tap to refresh the soul after sampling over a dozen vendors and merchants carrying top class Irish goods, souvenirs and handcraft. Children will have ponies to ride, games to play, a giant bouncy castle to bounce around in, music to listen to, food to enjoy and other activities. "It's exciting to present this premiere Irish-American event in one of the most beautiful venues the Hudson Valley has to offer, and share the locality's wealth of talent and pride in their Irish roots," said Dan Dennehy, Event Chairman, who also will serve as an aide to Peekskill's 2010 St. Patrick's Parade Grand Marshal Ray Bermingham. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOBoP_8Ta-E

"New York Foundling Hospital is holding a reunion and gathering weekend October 9th through October 12th, 2009. They are also hoping to create an online community of anyone associated with NY Foundling at their website. "You can visit the Homecoming registration site at http://donors.nyfoundling.org/homecoming "Registration and all events during the homecoming weekend are free. The press release is up on Reuters at" > http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS191451+02-Dec-2008+PRN20081202 SOURCE: http://ungratefullittlebastard.blogspot.com/2009/01/new-york-foundling-hospi tal-reunion-and.html

I am currently getting the 8th ward online. It is a huge ward which includes 5,400 residents living in 3,409 dwellings and in 5,694 families. The 9th ward is completed and I will be getting it ready to go online after I get the 8th ward online. The last ward, the 10th, is half transcribed and should be completed within two weeks. So far there are almost 30, 000 individual names in the first 8 wards. The wonderful people to thank who transcribed the 8th ward are: Terry Bora, Amy La Pietra, Sharon King, Bob McConihe, and Earl Smith. Our numbers have dwindled but our output is still great. You can find links to the 1865 NYS census on the Troy section of my website. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Please excuse using these airwaves for this topic, but it is pertinent to many of us. If it doesn't affect you, please delete. Folks who use an AOL mail system know that official AOL mail to you arrives coded in blue. I received a second such email that refers to a class action suit filed on behalf of AOL subscribers. Have others received this and do you understand what this is about? Barb

https://wwwnet1.state.nj.us/DOS/Admin/ArchivesDBPortal/CivilWarVouchers.aspx ----- Original Message ----- From: "jeanine" <joyzee_goil@yahoo.com> To: bannon-l@rootsweb.com, mathews-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 3:13:19 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: [NY-IRISH] Fw: [NJ-GSNJ] State Archives Posts 82, 467 Civil War Service Records to Website --- On Thu, 9/10/09, jeanine <jmatt413@comcast.net> wrote: From: jeanine <jmatt413@comcast.net> Subject: Fw: [NJ-GSNJ] State Archives Posts 82,467 Civil War Service Records to Website To: "jeanine" <joyzee_goil@yahoo.com> Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 5:57 PM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Klett" <Joseph.Klett@SOS.STATE.NJ.US> To: "H-Net Network on New Jersey history" <H-NEW-JERSEY@H-NET.MSU.EDU>; <nj-gsnj@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:17 AM Subject: [NJ-GSNJ] State Archives Posts 82,467 Civil War Service Records to Website > Dear List Members: > > > > I'm exceedingly pleased to announce, on behalf of New Jersey State > Archives, that we have just posted a new website providing access to > 82,467 entries from Adjutant General William S. Stryker's Record of > Officers and Men of New Jersey in the Civil War, 1861-1865. This > addition to the Archives' "Searchable Databases" site complements the > State Library's electronic version of the 1876 publication. Collection > Management Archivist Vivian Thiele created the new database with a > search engine that allows for multi-field searching and yields up to 500 > results per search. The search engine also allows the user to order > copies of service records directly from the State Archives. > > > > As we approach the sesquicentennial of the Civil War, this resource > will, undoubtedly, prove to be a major boon to historians and > genealogists researching the war and its servicemen. It and the Civil > War Treasury Vouchers database posted last month (with nearly 114,000 > entries providing access to documentation on soldiers' and survivors' > pay, wartime procurement and subsistence paid to families) radically > advance the accessibility of archival material on New Jersey in the > Civil War. > > > > I would like to publicly acknowledge and applaud the remarkable work of > Ms. Thiele, the State Archives' "Tsarina of Databases," who has > developed these wonderful expansions of the State Archives' online > resources. She single-handedly created the Stryker database, and did her > "magic" on the vouchers database produced by a number of State Archives > staff members over an eleven-year period. The latter was developed in > conjunction with, and initially made possible by funding from, the New > Jersey Civil War Heritage Association. > > > > The "Stryker's" database is available at > https://wwwnet1.state.nj.us/DOS/Admin/ArchivesDBPortal/CivilWarVouchers. > aspx). > > > > The Vouchers database is available at > https://wwwnet1.state.nj.us/DOS/Admin/ArchivesDBPortal/StrykerCivilWar.a > spx). > > > > Please forward this message to any other lists or bulletin boards as > appropriate. > > > > With best regards, > > > > Joseph R. Klett > > Deputy Director for Archives > > New Jersey Division of Archives & Records Management > > > > > > Visit the GSNJ Home Page for up-to-date info on Events, Collections, > Publications & more: > http://www.gsnj.org > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJ-GSNJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

--- On Thu, 9/10/09, jeanine <jmatt413@comcast.net> wrote: From: jeanine <jmatt413@comcast.net> Subject: Fw: [NJ-GSNJ] State Archives Posts 82,467 Civil War Service Records to Website To: "jeanine" <joyzee_goil@yahoo.com> Date: Thursday, September 10, 2009, 5:57 PM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Klett" <Joseph.Klett@SOS.STATE.NJ.US> To: "H-Net Network on New Jersey history" <H-NEW-JERSEY@H-NET.MSU.EDU>; <nj-gsnj@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:17 AM Subject: [NJ-GSNJ] State Archives Posts 82,467 Civil War Service Records to Website > Dear List Members: > > > > I'm exceedingly pleased to announce, on behalf of New Jersey State > Archives, that we have just posted a new website providing access to > 82,467 entries from Adjutant General William S. Stryker's Record of > Officers and Men of New Jersey in the Civil War, 1861-1865. This > addition to the Archives' "Searchable Databases" site complements the > State Library's electronic version of the 1876 publication. Collection > Management Archivist Vivian Thiele created the new database with a > search engine that allows for multi-field searching and yields up to 500 > results per search. The search engine also allows the user to order > copies of service records directly from the State Archives. > > > > As we approach the sesquicentennial of the Civil War, this resource > will, undoubtedly, prove to be a major boon to historians and > genealogists researching the war and its servicemen. It and the Civil > War Treasury Vouchers database posted last month (with nearly 114,000 > entries providing access to documentation on soldiers' and survivors' > pay, wartime procurement and subsistence paid to families) radically > advance the accessibility of archival material on New Jersey in the > Civil War. > > > > I would like to publicly acknowledge and applaud the remarkable work of > Ms. Thiele, the State Archives' "Tsarina of Databases," who has > developed these wonderful expansions of the State Archives' online > resources. She single-handedly created the Stryker database, and did her > "magic" on the vouchers database produced by a number of State Archives > staff members over an eleven-year period. The latter was developed in > conjunction with, and initially made possible by funding from, the New > Jersey Civil War Heritage Association. > > > > The "Stryker's" database is available at > https://wwwnet1.state.nj.us/DOS/Admin/ArchivesDBPortal/CivilWarVouchers. > aspx). > > > > The Vouchers database is available at > https://wwwnet1.state.nj.us/DOS/Admin/ArchivesDBPortal/StrykerCivilWar.a > spx). > > > > Please forward this message to any other lists or bulletin boards as > appropriate. > > > > With best regards, > > > > Joseph R. Klett > > Deputy Director for Archives > > New Jersey Division of Archives & Records Management > > > > > > Visit the GSNJ Home Page for up-to-date info on Events, Collections, > Publications & more: >     http://www.gsnj.org > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NJ-GSNJ-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The County Leitrim websites (names and links below) have been updated. A webpage for the Carrigallen Civil Parish has been added with pages for all the townlands found in the parish plus those requested by readers are also added. There are currently webpages for over 667 townlands in the county all with links and genealogical information including Family History Library film numbers. Some have pictures, records and surnames contributed by those interested in the townland/civil parish. These are community website meant for those doing research regarding County Leitrim. Records, pictures and surnames are gladly added to the various pages. If you would like to contribute or if you find mistakes, contact me off list. Ireland Genealogical Projects, County Leitrim http://www.igp-web.com/leitrim/index.htm Ireland GenWeb, County Leitrim http://www.irelandgenweb.com/~irllet/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Hello Kellen2000 and All, Emigrant Industrial Savings Bank's history (searchable online) was begun for the Irish by an Irish cultural society, but did not discriminate against account holders of other cultural persuasions. The same holds true for the Freedman's Savings and Trust Company, which no longer exists. Both are searchable online, via paid subscriptions to various genealogical seach services. Although Emigrant is still an active NYC bank, you cannot research historical records there in person, nor would the local branches have access to earliest records. That's the beauty of online researching...saves time, thus money. With all due respect to my Italian friends, the bank utilized by my Sicilian ancestors was Banco Sotto il Materasso. Barb NYC Researcher ================================== kellen2000@seanet.com writes: > ank...immigrants from Sicily...early...20th century [forward]

Thanks to Nick Reddan, I have added a number of new tithes to the Limerick section of my website that he transcribed from film at the Archives of Ireland in Dublin and contributed to the website. A couple, Bruff and Athneasy Civil Parishes were also transcribed by me so I offer both transcriptions. Most entries are the same but there are some different interpretations of the handwriting. New civil parishes added are Ballinggaddy, Kilflyn, St Peter's & St Paul's, Kilfinne, Kilbreedy Minor and Kilbreedy Major. All are linked to the County Limerick section of my website. Note, I added a County Limerick civil parish map with the parishes that are transcribed and on the website, colored in. If anyone else has parishes transcribed that they would like to add to the site, write me off list and I will gladly add them. As a Barony gets completed, I am creating indexes for easy search. I have also added a Google search of the website which also should help you find your surnames. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

John, The new issue of Family History magazine announced several new sites for those seeking information about Limerick, Ireland. I assume they are free as no mention of a fee was made in the article which you may find of interest. http://limerick.ie/digitalarchives/privatepapersandbusinesscollections/ This site includes "rentals and particulars of sale 1808-1923" "Devon estate rentals, 1774-1893" and "Fair Rent Tribunal, 1881-1916" among other things. http://limerick.ie/digitalarchives/limerickcitycouncilandlocalgovernment collections/ This site has the rate valuation books from 1893-1971 so you may be able to find the address you are interested in from the Census data. http://limerick.ie/digitalarchives/mountstlawrenceburialregisterbookone1 855-1896/ http://limerick.ie/digitalarchives/mountstlawrenceburialregisterbooktwo1 896-1935/ http://limerick.ie/digitalarchives/mountstlawrenceburialregisterbookthre e1935-1961/ Mount St. Lawrence is Limerick's largest cemetery and their posting a hundred years of information is a great resource. Enjoy, Maryann -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Burke Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 2:33 PM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] 1911 Ireland census Thanks! This is great. On Aug 28, 2009, at 2:28 PM, Pat Connors wrote: > I wish I could help you, John, but don't have your answer. Maybe some > of the literature about the census on the Archives of Ireland website > might help. Or maybe a question to the Limerick mailing list might > get you an answer better than this. > > > > >> >> This is great. A question... when a census results gives you the >> number of a house, for example, Residents of house number 2 in >> Bunavie >> (Grean, Limerick), how do you find what property that is? >> > > > > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Below are files added in August: General Ireland Genealogy Archives Apothecaries, 1791-1796 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/countrywide/misc.htm Antrim Genealogy Archives - Miscellaneous Voters for Clements Monepenny - 1744 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/antrim/misc.htm Clare Genealogy Archives - Military & Constabulary RIC men Sep - Dec 1852 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/clare/military.htm Clare Genealogy Archives - Obits Finnerty, Mary Murray June 10, 1900 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/clare/obits.htm Cork Genealogy Archives Royal Irish Constabulary with native county of Cork Sep 1852-Dec 1852 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/cork/military.htm Cork Genealogy Archives - Census 1901 Baltimore area census www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/cork/census.htm Cork Genealogy Archives - Vitals Jeremiah McCarthy - 1950 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/cork/vitals.htm Cork Genealogy Archives - Obituaries Church, Miss 1827 Doody, Michael April 10, 1898 Trant, Philip 1785 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/cork/obits.htm Derry Genealogy Archives - Obituaries Murphy, James March 24, 1906 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/derry/obits.htm Dublin Genealogy Archives - Headstones Deansgrange Cemetery, South West Section Part 1 *additions www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/photos/tombstones/markers.htm Dublin Genealogy Archives - Obits Gleeson, Patrick Coleman 1875 McCabe, Bridget 1827 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/obits.htm Dublin Genealogy Archives - Military Additional RIC men http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/dublin/military.htm Fermanagh Genealogy Archives - Church Kinawley Parish Registers, GILBRIDE & FEE 1836-1855 1661-1900 Monea Churchwardens Inismasaint Parish Baptisms 1800-1803 Inismasaint Parish Baptisms - Derrygonelly Churchyard 1800-1814 Inishmacsaint Rectors, Curates, Churchwardens, Clerks sorted by name Inishmacsaint Rectors, Curates, Churchwardens by date www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/fermanagh/church.htm Fermanagh Genealogy Archives - Census Substitutes List of Landowners 1870's - M-N www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/fermanagh/censubs.htm Fermanagh Genealogy Archives - Military Records RIC men from Fermanagh Sep-Dec 1852 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/fermanagh/military.htm Galway Genealogy Archives - Obituaries DILLON & TIERNEY http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/galway/obits.htm Kerry Genealogy Archives - Military & Constabulary Records RIC men from Kerry Sep-Dec 1852 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/kerry/military.htm Kildare Genealogy Archives - Census Substitutes List of Landowners in 1870 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/kildare/censubs.htm Laois Genealogy Archives - Military RIC men from Queen's Co. Sep 1852-Feb 1853 http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/laois/military.htm Limerick Genealogy Archives - Census Substitutes List of Landowners in 1870' www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/limerick/censubs.htm Limerick Genealogy Archives - Military RIC men from Limerick Sep-Dec 1852 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/limerick/military.htm Mayo Genealogy Archives - Obituaries Foy, Thomas 1903 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/mayo/obits.htm Monaghan Genealogy Archives - Obituaries Ransbury, Mary Ann 1827 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/monaghan/obits.htm Tipperary Genealogy Archives - Obituaries www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/obits.htm Tipperary Genealogy Archives - Photos Military Squad Image www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/photos.htm Tyrone Genealogy Archives - Obituaries Meenan, Owen February 10, 1916 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tyrone/obits.htm Waterford Genealogy Archives - Obits Nelson, Captain Oliver 1827 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/waterford/obits.htm Wexford Genealogy Archives - Obituaries Russell, Mary Radford June 2, 1879 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wexford/obits.htm Wicklow Genealogy Archives - Church Newcastle Church of Ireland Burials - ARCHER, HAYES, TRIM, VICKERS Powerscourt Church of Ireland, Burials - BOOTH/BOOTHE Wicklow CoI Burials - ATKINSON, BESTIL, BRYAN, HAYES, VICERS/VICARS www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wicklow/church.htm Wicklow Genealogy Archives - Headstones Kilcoole, Co.Wicklow Interior Memorials from St. Patrick's, Kilquade, Co.Wicklow Newcastle Parish Church Cemetery, Pt 2, (CoI) *additions Redford Catholic Cemetery, Greystones, Part 4 & 5 Wicklow Parish Church, Wicklow http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wicklow/photos/tombstones/markers.htm Wicklow Genealogy Archives - Obituaries Redmond, Dennis January 1852 www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wicklow/obits.htm Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/

If it were me, I would contact the Valuation Office in Dublin and tell them what you're looking for. For a small price, I'm fairly sure they would copy information from their books and send it to you. We visited in person and were able to get copies from Griffith's Valuation and later information that we needed, as well as a copy of a section of the beautiful, original map that showed where our family had held land. (From that visit to the VO, we were able to actually find and walk the land.) If the VO doesn't do that sort of thing, you could hire a researcher for around 30 Euro who would go and get the info and send it to you. **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115)

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Not necessarily. It all depends on geography. They may be next to each other, across from each other, or in some other spatial relationship depending on terrain (mountain, stream, bog). Hence the value of the GV maps so you can see where farms (and geographical features) are in relation to each other and can guess in which order the census taker took the info. Claire K. On Aug 28, 2009, at 2:53 PM, John Burke wrote: > ...I guess maybe > you can assume that house 1 is next to house 2, but that's about it. > > > On Aug 28, 2009, at 2:45 PM, Claire K wrote: > >>>> >> >> The "house" number is just the order in which the houses were >> visited. It links from / to the Forms N, A, and B on the 1911 >> census, but not beyond that -- not to the 1901 house number or the >> Griffith's Valuation number, etc. If you have the GV map and some >> knowledge of your townland's history and people, you can usually >> figure it out, but there's no magic recipe. >> >> Claire K >> seekay@comcast.net >>

Yes, I noticed that on one of the other forms the houses listed are numbered, but, yes, it doesn't seem related to anything. I guess maybe you can assume that house 1 is next to house 2, but that's about it. Thanks, John On Aug 28, 2009, at 2:45 PM, Claire K wrote: >>> > > The "house" number is just the order in which the houses were > visited. It links from / to the Forms N, A, and B on the 1911 > census, but not beyond that -- not to the 1901 house number or the > Griffith's Valuation number, etc. If you have the GV map and some > knowledge of your townland's history and people, you can usually > figure it out, but there's no magic recipe. > > Claire K > seekay@comcast.net > > > >>> This is great. A question... when a census results gives you the >>> number of a house, for example, Residents of house number 2 in >>> Bunavie >>> (Grean, Limerick), how do you find what property that is? >>> > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message