Correction on my post - Flatlands is a separate neighborhood in Brooklyn; not actually part of Flatbush. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: oconnortoo@aol.com Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:06:14 To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] NY Births 1868-1875 Don't know if you already have an answer but I would guess the Flatlands refer to the Flatbush area of Brooklyn, NY Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: MAS13751@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:13:17 To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] NY Births 1868-1875 The info I have is from the NY Emigrant Savings Bank 1850-1883. It gives his "residence" as "Flatland, NY". Don't know where that may have been back then... In a message dated 10/13/2009 2:16:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, B17mac@aol.com writes: When you talk about the flatlands do you mean the Flats in Livingston Co? In a message dated 10/13/2009 1:05:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, B17mac@aol.com writes: _Clare County Library_ (http://www.clarelibrary.ie/) In a message dated 10/13/2009 12:32:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, MAS13751@aol.com writes: My great-grandfather was Michael McMahon came over from Clare Ireland on the Antartic in 1864 and lived in the Flatlands, NY. He had 2 sons John & Thomas born in 1868 and 1871 before moving out to Iowa/Illinois. Are there birth/christening records available for those years - 1868-1871 - anywhere on-line? If not, is there any way to get those records? I'd like to find out his wife's name. Also, where would I find County Clare birth records...I know his parent's names and that he was born in Dec. 1841?? Mary Ann in CT ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't know if you already have an answer but I would guess the Flatlands refer to the Flatbush area of Brooklyn, NY Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: MAS13751@aol.com Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:13:17 To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] NY Births 1868-1875 The info I have is from the NY Emigrant Savings Bank 1850-1883. It gives his "residence" as "Flatland, NY". Don't know where that may have been back then... In a message dated 10/13/2009 2:16:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, B17mac@aol.com writes: When you talk about the flatlands do you mean the Flats in Livingston Co? In a message dated 10/13/2009 1:05:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, B17mac@aol.com writes: _Clare County Library_ (http://www.clarelibrary.ie/) In a message dated 10/13/2009 12:32:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, MAS13751@aol.com writes: My great-grandfather was Michael McMahon came over from Clare Ireland on the Antartic in 1864 and lived in the Flatlands, NY. He had 2 sons John & Thomas born in 1868 and 1871 before moving out to Iowa/Illinois. Are there birth/christening records available for those years - 1868-1871 - anywhere on-line? If not, is there any way to get those records? I'd like to find out his wife's name. Also, where would I find County Clare birth records...I know his parent's names and that he was born in Dec. 1841?? Mary Ann in CT ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Another resource for Brooklyn is... http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ Frank McCullough California ----- Original Message ----- From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 11:25:43 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] NY Births 1868-1875 That would have been what is part of Brooklyn now. MAS13751@aol.com writes: > The info I have is from the NY Emigrant Savings Bank 1850-1883. It gives > > his "residence" as "Flatland, NY". Don't know where that may have been > back > then... ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That would have been what is part of Brooklyn now. MAS13751@aol.com writes: > The info I have is from the NY Emigrant Savings Bank 1850-1883. It gives > > his "residence" as "Flatland, NY". Don't know where that may have been > back > then...

New York City vital records are kept separately from the rest of the state; NYC's are at the Municipal Archives in Manhattan (being indexed online at ItalianGen.org and GermanGenealogyGroup.com -- years vary by county, but there are at least some covering 1885 online). New York State (excluding NYC) vital records are kept at the NYS Department of Health -- see http://www.health.state.ny.us/ vital_records/ for information. Their yearly index is available at NARA NY, and possibly elsewhere. Neither of these sources keep Catholic records separately from any other religion / noon-religious service. For Catholic church records of the marriage, you need to know first in what parish the marriage took place -- and no, the Archdiocese does not have a central index. Your best bet is to start with the civil records. BTW, I have both Farrells and Carolans in my family, but on different lines, and not in NY. My Farrells are in Philadelphia and Co. Waterford, and my Carolans are in Philladelphia and Co. Tyrone. Still, it gave me a jolt to see both names in your post. Claire K seekay@comcast.net On Oct 14, 2009, at 8:33 AM, shortfilmer@gmail.com wrote: > I know that my grandparents, John Joseph Farrell and Margaret > Carolan, were > married around 1885 in either New York City or on Long Island > (Suffolk or > Nassau). Does anyone know if there's a central registry of Roman > Catholic > marriages in New York State anywhere? I'm flying blind on this one. > > Thanks.

Do you have access to the Emigrant Savings Bank records? I'm looking for my grandmother, Margaret Carolan around 1882-1887 (prior to her marriage in NYC/Long Island). Thanks. Any help would be appreciated. On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 3:13 PM, <MAS13751@aol.com> wrote: > The info I have is from the NY Emigrant Savings Bank 1850-1883. It gives > his "residence" as "Flatland, NY". Don't know where that may have been > back > then... > > > In a message dated 10/13/2009 2:16:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > B17mac@aol.com writes: > > When you talk about the flatlands do you mean the Flats in Livingston > Co? > > > In a message dated 10/13/2009 1:05:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > B17mac@aol.com writes: > > > _Clare County Library_ (http://www.clarelibrary.ie/) > > In a message dated 10/13/2009 12:32:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > MAS13751@aol.com writes: > > My great-grandfather was Michael McMahon came over from Clare Ireland on > > > the Antartic in 1864 and lived in the Flatlands, NY. He had 2 sons > John > > & > Thomas born in 1868 and 1871 before moving out to Iowa/Illinois. Are > there > birth/christening records available for those years - 1868-1871 - > anywhere > on-line? If not, is there any way to get those records? I'd like to > find > out his wife's name. Also, where would I find County Clare birth > records...I know his parent's names and that he was born in Dec. 1841?? > > Mary Ann in > CT > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Patricia A. Farrell, Ph.D. How to Be Your Own Therapist www.drfarrell.net 201-676-0478 This email, and any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended addressee, nor authorized to receive for the intended addressee, you are hereby notified that you may not use, copy, disclose or distribute to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received this message in error, please immediately delete the message

I know that my grandparents, John Joseph Farrell and Margaret Carolan, were married around 1885 in either New York City or on Long Island (Suffolk or Nassau). Does anyone know if there's a central registry of Roman Catholic marriages in New York State anywhere? I'm flying blind on this one. Thanks.

Yes, I knew that much, but the archives online don't go back far enough for my search. ----- Original Message ----- From: <mizscarlettny@aol.com> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Poughkeepsie > > According to Gannet newspapers, the Poughkeepsie Journal is the oldest > newspaper in NY State, > and the third oldest in the nation. > > Barb > NYC Researcher > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Ryan <ryanblack@cox.net> > To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, Oct 12, 2009 11:37 am > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Poughkeepsie > > > > > > > > > > > Anne, Libraries generally have directories for their cities or towns. Some > of > the bigger libraries have directories for more than one town or city. If > you > have a historical library in your area they might have a greater number of > directories. If you live in another state I doubt that your library will > have > copies. Some directories contain more than just the address, one of which > is, > if, for example in 1930 he lived at 2 xyz street and in 1931 he moved to > another > town, it was usually noted, removed to that town or just moved. Also, if > remarried his children might have continued to live at that address after > he > passed away. Check for a copy of his will, it is public information, from > the > Poughkeepsie city hall. Poughkeepsie has a very informative site that is > worth > looking at. Look at these sites. http://www.cityofpoughkeepsie.com/ > http://www.poklib.org/ Also, go to Yahoo and find their newspaper. Let me > know > how you make out. > Bob > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add > your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.16/2435 - Release Date: 10/14/09 06:33:00

Hi Mary Ann, There won't be a birth record in Ireland, as birth registrations did not begin until 1864. You may find a church record of his baptism, but first you'd have to know what parish he was from - that, or search all Clare parishes that have records dating back far enough. You can see which parishes have records on the John Grenham / Irish Times website -- see http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/sitemap.htm for sitemap to navigate through, or just check Grenham's TRACING YOUR IRISH ANCESTORS (maybe at your local library). Generally speaking, you don't want to jump to Irish research until you've found a more specific origin, or have exhausted all possible sources in the US without luck. Hope that helps. Claire K seekay@comcast.net On Oct 13, 2009, at 12:22 PM, MAS13751@aol.com wrote: > My great-grandfather was Michael McMahon came over from Clare > Ireland on > the Antartic in 1864 ...where would I find County Clare birth > records...I know his parent's names and that he was born in Dec. > 1841??

Thanks, Margaret. I'll try that avenue...Mary Ann In a message dated 10/13/2009 3:57:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, vdamore@frontiernet.net writes: My great grandfather was born in Williamsburg, Brooklyn in 1864 and I have a copy of his baptismal certificate from St. Vincent de Paul parish. It is a copy made in 1932 when one of my great aunts needed to prove her citizenship to get a passport. Willamsburg and the Flatlands are both in the Diocese of Brooklyn, so if you can find the parish, you could have a pretty good shot at getting baptismal records (assuming a cooperative parish clerk) http://dioceseofbrooklyn.org/parish_search.aspx good luck! Margaret On Oct 13, 2009, at 2:16 PM, ny-irish-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:22:04 EDT > From: MAS13751@aol.com > Subject: [NY-IRISH] NY Births 1868-1875 > To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <bc2.52e11699.3806032c@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > My great-grandfather was Michael McMahon came over from Clare > Ireland on > the Antartic in 1864 and lived in the Flatlands, NY. He had 2 sons > John & > Thomas born in 1868 and 1871 before moving out to Iowa/Illinois. > Are there > birth/christening records available for those years - 1868-1871 - > anywhere > on-line? If not, is there any way to get those records? I'd like > to find > out his wife's name. Also, where would I find County Clare birth > records...I know his parent's names and that he was born in Dec. > 1841?? Mary Ann in > CT ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My great grandfather was born in Williamsburg, Brooklyn in 1864 and I have a copy of his baptismal certificate from St. Vincent de Paul parish. It is a copy made in 1932 when one of my great aunts needed to prove her citizenship to get a passport. Willamsburg and the Flatlands are both in the Diocese of Brooklyn, so if you can find the parish, you could have a pretty good shot at getting baptismal records (assuming a cooperative parish clerk) http://dioceseofbrooklyn.org/parish_search.aspx good luck! Margaret On Oct 13, 2009, at 2:16 PM, ny-irish-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:22:04 EDT > From: MAS13751@aol.com > Subject: [NY-IRISH] NY Births 1868-1875 > To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <bc2.52e11699.3806032c@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > My great-grandfather was Michael McMahon came over from Clare > Ireland on > the Antartic in 1864 and lived in the Flatlands, NY. He had 2 sons > John & > Thomas born in 1868 and 1871 before moving out to Iowa/Illinois. > Are there > birth/christening records available for those years - 1868-1871 - > anywhere > on-line? If not, is there any way to get those records? I'd like > to find > out his wife's name. Also, where would I find County Clare birth > records...I know his parent's names and that he was born in Dec. > 1841?? Mary Ann in > CT

The info I have is from the NY Emigrant Savings Bank 1850-1883. It gives his "residence" as "Flatland, NY". Don't know where that may have been back then... In a message dated 10/13/2009 2:16:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, B17mac@aol.com writes: When you talk about the flatlands do you mean the Flats in Livingston Co? In a message dated 10/13/2009 1:05:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, B17mac@aol.com writes: _Clare County Library_ (http://www.clarelibrary.ie/) In a message dated 10/13/2009 12:32:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, MAS13751@aol.com writes: My great-grandfather was Michael McMahon came over from Clare Ireland on the Antartic in 1864 and lived in the Flatlands, NY. He had 2 sons John & Thomas born in 1868 and 1871 before moving out to Iowa/Illinois. Are there birth/christening records available for those years - 1868-1871 - anywhere on-line? If not, is there any way to get those records? I'd like to find out his wife's name. Also, where would I find County Clare birth records...I know his parent's names and that he was born in Dec. 1841?? Mary Ann in CT ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

When you talk about the flatlands do you mean the Flats in Livingston Co? In a message dated 10/13/2009 1:05:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, B17mac@aol.com writes: _Clare County Library_ (http://www.clarelibrary.ie/) In a message dated 10/13/2009 12:32:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, MAS13751@aol.com writes: My great-grandfather was Michael McMahon came over from Clare Ireland on the Antartic in 1864 and lived in the Flatlands, NY. He had 2 sons John & Thomas born in 1868 and 1871 before moving out to Iowa/Illinois. Are there birth/christening records available for those years - 1868-1871 - anywhere on-line? If not, is there any way to get those records? I'd like to find out his wife's name. Also, where would I find County Clare birth records...I know his parent's names and that he was born in Dec. 1841?? Mary Ann in CT ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

_Clare County Library_ (http://www.clarelibrary.ie/) In a message dated 10/13/2009 12:32:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, MAS13751@aol.com writes: My great-grandfather was Michael McMahon came over from Clare Ireland on the Antartic in 1864 and lived in the Flatlands, NY. He had 2 sons John & Thomas born in 1868 and 1871 before moving out to Iowa/Illinois. Are there birth/christening records available for those years - 1868-1871 - anywhere on-line? If not, is there any way to get those records? I'd like to find out his wife's name. Also, where would I find County Clare birth records...I know his parent's names and that he was born in Dec. 1841?? Mary Ann in CT ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My great-grandfather was Michael McMahon came over from Clare Ireland on the Antartic in 1864 and lived in the Flatlands, NY. He had 2 sons John & Thomas born in 1868 and 1871 before moving out to Iowa/Illinois. Are there birth/christening records available for those years - 1868-1871 - anywhere on-line? If not, is there any way to get those records? I'd like to find out his wife's name. Also, where would I find County Clare birth records...I know his parent's names and that he was born in Dec. 1841?? Mary Ann in CT

According to Gannet newspapers, the Poughkeepsie Journal is the oldest newspaper in NY State, and the third oldest in the nation. Barb NYC Researcher -----Original Message----- From: Bob Ryan <ryanblack@cox.net> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Oct 12, 2009 11:37 am Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Poughkeepsie Anne, Libraries generally have directories for their cities or towns. Some of the bigger libraries have directories for more than one town or city. If you have a historical library in your area they might have a greater number of directories. If you live in another state I doubt that your library will have copies. Some directories contain more than just the address, one of which is, if, for example in 1930 he lived at 2 xyz street and in 1931 he moved to another town, it was usually noted, removed to that town or just moved. Also, if remarried his children might have continued to live at that address after he passed away. Check for a copy of his will, it is public information, from the Poughkeepsie city hall. Poughkeepsie has a very informative site that is worth looking at. Look at these sites. http://www.cityofpoughkeepsie.com/ http://www.poklib.org/ Also, go to Yahoo and find their newspaper. Let me know how you make out. Bob ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Don't give up yet. If Social Services had him buried there has to be a copy of his death certificate. Cities and town have different systems of record keeping. In the town I frequent the most they mention, from 1900 forward, the informant and relation to, doctor and cause of death. This is not noted on a copy of a death certificate. If possible a view of the pages is a plus. A notice should have been put in the newspapers requesting information about the next of kin. A death notice must have been put in the paper and they had to hire a funeral parlor to prepare the internment. The funeral parlor had to know where to take the body. If you can locate the funeral parlor and (preferably) LOOK at their records you might find the grave location number. The same might hold true with the death certificate. I've tried , by mail & phone calls to Poughkeepsie, to contact funeral homes but I never was successful. Again, I would trust the Poughkeepsie Library to look for anything in the newspaper for help, especially the newspaper. Keep in touch. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Stapf" <ASTAPF@nycap.rr.com> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Poughkeepsie > Bob, Thanks for the info. My father was an alcoholic, and the death > certificate states that Social Services brought him to the hospital. I > checked with the town and they said because it happened almost 30 years > ago > there were no records! My father is buried at the Union Cemetery in Hyde > Park in an unmarked grave. I have called and written to the Cemetery to > find a location or plot # so that the grave could be marked - but I have > had > no response at all. My brother tried and all they would tell him was an > area in the cemetery no specific location! So it seems I keep running into > brick walls. But I will continue to try. Thanks again for your help. > AnneMarie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Ryan" <ryanblack@cox.net> > To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:37 AM > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Poughkeepsie > > >> Anne, Libraries generally have directories for their cities or towns. >> Some >> of the bigger libraries have directories for more than one town or city. >> If you have a historical library in your area they might have a greater >> number of directories. If you live in another state I doubt that your >> library will have copies. Some directories contain more than just the >> address, one of which is, if, for example in 1930 he lived at 2 xyz >> street >> and in 1931 he moved to another town, it was usually noted, removed to >> that town or just moved. Also, if remarried his children might have >> continued to live at that address after he passed away. Check for a copy >> of his will, it is public information, from the Poughkeepsie city hall. >> Poughkeepsie has a very informative site that is worth looking at. Look >> at >> these sites. http://www.cityofpoughkeepsie.com/ http://www.poklib.org/ >> Also, go to Yahoo and find their newspaper. Let me know how you make out. >> Bob >> ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== >> Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, >> check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.10/2429 - Release Date: 10/11/09 > 18:34:00 > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here is site where you can search by Surname for grave at Union Cemetery of Hyde Park, Inc. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=66531 Rte 9G (locally called Violet Ave) Hyde Park Dutchess County New York USA http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=66531 ----- Original Message ----- From: "A Stapf" <ASTAPF@nycap.rr.com> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 7:26 AM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Poughkeepsie > Bob, Thanks for the info. My father was an alcoholic, and the death > certificate states that Social Services brought him to the hospital. I > checked with the town and they said because it happened almost 30 years > ago > there were no records! My father is buried at the Union Cemetery in Hyde > Park in an unmarked grave. I have called and written to the Cemetery to > find a location or plot # so that the grave could be marked - but I have > had > no response at all. My brother tried and all they would tell him was an > area in the cemetery no specific location! So it seems I keep running into > brick walls. But I will continue to try. Thanks again for your help. > AnneMarie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Ryan" <ryanblack@cox.net> > To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:37 AM > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Poughkeepsie > > >> Anne, Libraries generally have directories for their cities or towns. >> Some >> of the bigger libraries have directories for more than one town or city. >> If you have a historical library in your area they might have a greater >> number of directories. If you live in another state I doubt that your >> library will have copies. Some directories contain more than just the >> address, one of which is, if, for example in 1930 he lived at 2 xyz >> street >> and in 1931 he moved to another town, it was usually noted, removed to >> that town or just moved. Also, if remarried his children might have >> continued to live at that address after he passed away. Check for a copy >> of his will, it is public information, from the Poughkeepsie city hall. >> Poughkeepsie has a very informative site that is worth looking at. Look >> at >> these sites. http://www.cityofpoughkeepsie.com/ http://www.poklib.org/ >> Also, go to Yahoo and find their newspaper. Let me know how you make out. >> Bob >> ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== >> Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, >> check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.10/2429 - Release Date: 10/11/09 > 18:34:00 > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Bob, Thanks for the info. My father was an alcoholic, and the death certificate states that Social Services brought him to the hospital. I checked with the town and they said because it happened almost 30 years ago there were no records! My father is buried at the Union Cemetery in Hyde Park in an unmarked grave. I have called and written to the Cemetery to find a location or plot # so that the grave could be marked - but I have had no response at all. My brother tried and all they would tell him was an area in the cemetery no specific location! So it seems I keep running into brick walls. But I will continue to try. Thanks again for your help. AnneMarie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Ryan" <ryanblack@cox.net> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Poughkeepsie > Anne, Libraries generally have directories for their cities or towns. Some > of the bigger libraries have directories for more than one town or city. > If you have a historical library in your area they might have a greater > number of directories. If you live in another state I doubt that your > library will have copies. Some directories contain more than just the > address, one of which is, if, for example in 1930 he lived at 2 xyz street > and in 1931 he moved to another town, it was usually noted, removed to > that town or just moved. Also, if remarried his children might have > continued to live at that address after he passed away. Check for a copy > of his will, it is public information, from the Poughkeepsie city hall. > Poughkeepsie has a very informative site that is worth looking at. Look at > these sites. http://www.cityofpoughkeepsie.com/ http://www.poklib.org/ > Also, go to Yahoo and find their newspaper. Let me know how you make out. > Bob > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.10/2429 - Release Date: 10/11/09 18:34:00