Hi. An ancestor of my wife died at his home at 344 East 58th Street, Manhattan, on August 7th 1911. His name was Patrick Goodman, and I'm hoping to find out where his funeral mass might have taken place. From his address would anyone know the parish/church that he would most likely have been attached to? Thanks, George Ryan

Thank you, Pat, for the great link. I have been at a loss as to where to look next. I have a great grandfather James J. Phelan who married Ellen Morrissey and I can't find record of them other than the 1910 census. Then they lived in Massachusetts where my family is now from. Something happened and my grandmother ended up in an orphanage so we don't know much. From what she said I she thought they had come to Massachusetts from New York and her birth record says both were from Waterford County. The 1910 census says they had been married for 8 years, or 1902, which seems about right as my grandmother was born 1903 (it also said she was 5 and she was 7 so usual variances in census info). I looked on the New York German site and they do have an Ellen Morrissey marrying a James J. Lenihan in 1899- possible misspelling I guess. It may be them but, unfortunately, I can't use it until I have searched and found no other record for them. With the link you provided I can now start to search the individual churches and see what I find. Do you have any other suggestions for me? I don't know their parents names at this point. Just that they were from Waterford. Thank you, Janet ________________________________ From: Pat Connors <nymets22@gmail.com> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, December 18, 2009 4:20:57 PM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Starting point I put this online a few years back: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nynewyo2/RCchurchregisters.htm It shows what records are available per church plus the church's address. This was from a book that contained work done by the federal program, the WPA, during the Great Depression. Wouldn't it be nice if through the new stimulus bill other such projects could be made available? > Any suggestions as to which Roman Catholic Church to start my quest? > The oldest source I have is his marriage certificate. St. Vincent De Paul > 116 West 24th St. 8 August, 1894. > > PS If you don't know the church, there are maps on the site that should help you find in what church parish your ancestors lived. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My grandfather Edward F Sullivan was born in New York in 1870. All the birth certs of his children either state US or New York as his birthplace. His marriage and death certs state New York. Since marriage, he lived in Manhattan and Queens Counties. He does not appear in any NYC birth indexs. Eventually, I will attempt to locate baptismal records one church at a time. Any suggestions as to which Roman Catholic Church to start my quest? The oldest source I have is his marriage certificate. St. Vincent De Paul 116 West 24th St. 8 August, 1894. Thank you, Robert T. Sullivan

I put this online a few years back: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nynewyo2/RCchurchregisters.htm It shows what records are available per church plus the church's address. This was from a book that contained work done by the federal program, the WPA, during the Great Depression. Wouldn't it be nice if through the new stimulus bill other such projects could be made available? > Any suggestions as to which Roman Catholic Church to start my quest? > The oldest source I have is his marriage certificate. St. Vincent De Paul > 116 West 24th St. 8 August, 1894. > > PS If you don't know the church, there are maps on the site that should help you find in what church parish your ancestors lived. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Documentary of 94 year old New Yorker. Barb

The database at Germangenealogygoup.com is good, but not complete and not completely accurate, either.  I've found some relatives there, some are not there, some are spelled way wrong, etc.  It's still extremely helpful! Anna Caulfield  

Hi Anna; Thank you for your search and suggestion. I followed the link and found the record you refer to. It looks like a good site. I agree that the birth year may be off but it's the only record I have of them in the United States as he arrived about 1901 and apparently died before the 1920 census. I figure if he was born early in the year and it's a bit off he could have been about 18 or so. Do you happen to know how complete their database is? I am also looking for a marriage for James Phelan and Ellen Morrissey prior to the birth of their daughter in 1903 in Massachusetts. If they were married in New York would that database have it? I ask because I found one for an Ellen Morrissey and James J Lenihan but no other. Lenihan seems a bit of a stretch from Phelan but I did not find any other record. !!! Thanks again, Janet ________________________________ From: Anna Caulfield <acaulfield182@yahoo.com> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 2:31:43 PM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] James Joseph Phelan and Ellen Phelan nee Morrissey If they got married in 1901, he would have been only 16! I think you may have your birth dates wrong. Of course, my Irish ancestors all got younger with each census! The New York City death index at Germangenealogygroup.com has a James J. Phelan, age 38, died Jan 14, 1915, Manhattan certificate # 1682. You can order the certificate online from the municipal archives for $17. Good luck Anna Caulfield ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Try searching the Library at Waterford in county Waterford. I was able to glean much from there. There is a large Phelan presence in an around Annstown/Annestown County Waterford. I hope you find family as I did using the Library. Judy Christopher On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Janet A Peterson <jpdion932@yahoo.com>wrote: > I am researching my great grandparents James Joseph Phelan born about 1885 > in Waterford County Ireland and Ellen Phelan nee Morrissey born about 1883 > also in Waterford County Ireland. I would appreciate any information on > them and/or their extended family. > > My records/research show he arrived in New York around 1901 and she arrived > about 1898. They married in New York and then moved to Massachusetts where > they had my grandmother in October 1903. This makes for a nice slim window > of marriage between 1901 and 1902. My grandmother was brought to an > orphanage about 1912 by James Phelan and he returned to New York to get work > and she said he died there about 1915. > > I have not been able to find a marriage for James and Ellen or a death > record for James. It seems to me New York is divided up into a lot a small > pieces and not a central place to do a search. Also, my grandmother appears > to have been their only child so there are not others researching I have > come accross. I have found a couple of arrivals for a James Phelan but have > not been able to tell if they are him - the one that seems closest is from > Tipperary which is not out of the question I suppose. > > Any information would be gratefully received. > > Janet > > > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Judy Christopher

Hi Judy; I just checked the Waterford County Library. It looks to me like the searching available references a microfilm and then you must go there to search it. I live in the US so that is not possible. Is there some online searchable database that I missed? Thanks, Janet ________________________________ From: judy christopher <ajuntasc@gmail.com> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 3:18:16 PM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] James Joseph Phelan and Ellen Phelan nee Morrissey Try searching the Library at Waterford in county Waterford. I was able to glean much from there. There is a large Phelan presence in an around Annstown/Annestown County Waterford. I hope you find family as I did using the Library. Judy Christopher On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Janet A Peterson <jpdion932@yahoo.com>wrote: > I am researching my great grandparents James Joseph Phelan born about 1885 > in Waterford County Ireland and Ellen Phelan nee Morrissey born about 1883 > also in Waterford County Ireland. I would appreciate any information on > them and/or their extended family. > > My records/research show he arrived in New York around 1901 and she arrived > about 1898. They married in New York and then moved to Massachusetts where > they had my grandmother in October 1903. This makes for a nice slim window > of marriage between 1901 and 1902. My grandmother was brought to an > orphanage about 1912 by James Phelan and he returned to New York to get work > and she said he died there about 1915. > > I have not been able to find a marriage for James and Ellen or a death > record for James. It seems to me New York is divided up into a lot a small > pieces and not a central place to do a search. Also, my grandmother appears > to have been their only child so there are not others researching I have > come accross. I have found a couple of arrivals for a James Phelan but have > not been able to tell if they are him - the one that seems closest is from > Tipperary which is not out of the question I suppose. > > Any information would be gratefully received. > > Janet > > > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Judy Christopher ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If they got married in 1901, he would have been only 16!  I think you may have your birth dates wrong.  Of course, my Irish ancestors all got younger with each census!   The New York City death index at Germangenealogygroup.com has a James J. Phelan, age 38, died Jan 14, 1915, Manhattan certificate # 1682.  You can order the certificate online from the municipal archives for $17.   Good luck Anna Caulfield 

I am researching my great grandparents James Joseph Phelan born about 1885 in Waterford County Ireland and Ellen Phelan nee Morrissey born about 1883 also in Waterford County Ireland. I would appreciate any information on them and/or their extended family. My records/research show he arrived in New York around 1901 and she arrived about 1898. They married in New York and then moved to Massachusetts where they had my grandmother in October 1903. This makes for a nice slim window of marriage between 1901 and 1902. My grandmother was brought to an orphanage about 1912 by James Phelan and he returned to New York to get work and she said he died there about 1915. I have not been able to find a marriage for James and Ellen or a death record for James. It seems to me New York is divided up into a lot a small pieces and not a central place to do a search. Also, my grandmother appears to have been their only child so there are not others researching I have come accross. I have found a couple of arrivals for a James Phelan but have not been able to tell if they are him - the one that seems closest is from Tipperary which is not out of the question I suppose. Any information would be gratefully received. Janet

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The finder of an old photo would like to return it to the proper family. Please see the message below with more information. Maryann -----Original Message----- From: leonard-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:leonard-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shelley Cardiel Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 9:13 AM To: LEONARD@rootsweb.com Subject: [LEONARD] SHERMAN - LEONARD Family Photograph I've "rescued" an old photograph of Rosemond Sherman of Pine City, New York which was taken at the Bailey & McCausland Normal School Studio in Mansfield, PA. The photograph is dated 1896 with Rosemond likely in her teens at the time it was taken. Based on limited research I was able to gather the following information regarding Rosemond and her family: Rosemond E. SHERMAN b. 1878 in NY to parents John Nelson SHERMAN (b. 1844 in Southport, NY) and Sarah E. AYERS (b. May 1844 in PA). Rosemond married Solomon S. LEONARD. Census records provide the following information: 1880 census of Southport, NY: John SHERMAN, age 36, a Farmer, born NY, parents born NY Sarah SHERMAN, wife, age 35, Keeping House, born PA, parents born NY William SHERMAN, son, age 5, born NY Rose E. SHERMAN, dau, age 2, born NY Allen SHERMAN, son, age 6 months, born NY 1900 census of Lansing Township, NY: - home of Samuel & Emma GOODWIN Rosemond SHERMAN, boarder, age 20, born Oct 1879, born NY, parents born NY, a School Teacher 1910 census of Elmira, NY: Rosemond SHERMAN, age 25, born NY, parents born NY, a Public School Teacher Florence SHERMAN, sister, age 23, born NY, parents born NY, a Hospital Nurse + 1 Boarder 1920 census of Elmira, NY: Rosemon SHERMAN, age 42, born NY, parents born NY/PA, a Public School Teacher I am hoping to locate someone from her family so that this wonderful old treasure can be returned to the care of her family. If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to LEONARD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The town of Saranac Lake, NY became a TB treatment center, based on the work of Dr.Trudeau (the institute still carries on immune system research). My grandmother & grandfather met there - they were staying at different "cure cottages." Mail from NYC arrived twice daily. There is a lovely book called "Cure Cottages of Saranac Lake." The library here sill has recirds from the old Trudeau Clinic, and I found records of my grandmother & aunt early 1900's). --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Joy Bugos <joybugos@yahoo.com> wrote: > From: Joy Bugos <joybugos@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Question about TB sanatorium > To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 11:52 AM > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Kay Brearton <Kbrearton@nycap.rr.com> > To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, October 4, 2009 11:00:05 AM > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Question about TB sanatorium > > I have a relative who died of TB at home. I thought > everyone who had it wer removed from the home, but I guess > not all were. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Erin James" <ej@tampabay.rr.com> > To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:16 AM > Subject: [NY-IRISH] Question about TB sanatorium > > > > Seeing the post about the Quarantine Hospital gave me > a thought: I've been > > told that my grandmother traveled from Ireland to New > York to cure her TB. > > This would have been in the late 1890s,  I think. I > have my doubts about > > the > > story but wonder if anyone can think of some way to > check it out? The > > person > > who told me is the last remaining member of the family > and her memory may > > be > > flawed, but I'd love to find out. Any thoughts? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <ny-irish-request@rootsweb.com> > > To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:01 AM > > Subject: NY-IRISH Digest, Vol 4, Issue 168 > > > > > >> > >> > >> ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > >> Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing > list website.  Also, > >> check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname > Registry: > >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > >> > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >>  1. New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital (Lynne > Sisk) > >>  2. Re: New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital (judy > christopher) > >>  3. Re: New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital > (Kitty) > >>  4. Re: New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital (MizScarlettNY@aol.com) > >> > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:37:53 -0400 > >> From: "Lynne Sisk" <siskabob@nycap.rr.com> > >> Subject: [NY-IRISH] New York Harbor Quarantine > Hospital > >> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> > >> Message-ID: > <B2EEAB7A066D4705A09190429373366D@ownerc36a8f1bf> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; > charset="iso-8859-1"; > >> reply-type=original > >> > >> Could you tell me which town in the Richmond > County Mortality Schedule > >> would > >> have those Great Hunger related deaths?  Thank > you. > >> > >> Lynne > >> > >>> > >>> Message: 4 > >>> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:53:28 EDT > >>> From: SICemetery@aol.com > >>> Subject: [NY-IRISH] New York Harbor Quarantine > Hospital > >>> To: IRELAND@rootsweb.com, > IRISH-FAMINE@rootsweb.com, > >>> irish-famine-request@rootsweb.com > >>> Cc: genire-request@rootsweb.com, > ny-irish-request@rootsweb.com, > >>> NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com > >>> Message-ID: <d15.53b979c2.37f51138@aol.com> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >>> > >>> > >>> Report on the Extent and Plight of Emigrants > in New York.  SOURCE The > >>> Belfast > >>> Mercury, April 19th, 1851 > >>> > >>> EMIGRATION TO THE  UNITED STATES. - NEW YORK, > APRIL 2.-The Marine > >>> Hospital > >>> at STATEN ISLAND is  crowded to excess, and a > New York paper observes:-" > >>> The > >>> number of poor people  from Ireland who are > wandering the through the > >>> streets, in a starving condition,  is > dreadful. Every night they go to > >>> the > >>> police > >>> station-houses for food and  shelter. Last > night, in the Fourth-ward > >>> station-house, there were 80 poor  people, of > this description, huddled > >>> together, > >>> and when food was laid before the  children, > they rushed at it, and > >>> devoured > >>> it like hungry wolves. Such are > >>> the victims of Irish Landlordism." - Freeman. > >>> > >>> > >>> The Marine/Quarantine Hospital operated from > 1799-1858 here on Staten > >>> Island.  Countless immigrants  of all > nationalities, entered into New > >>> York > >>> Harbor during those perilous  years only to > be found with infectious > >>> disease, > >>> held in quarantine at  the Marine Hospital on > Staten Island, died and > >>> were > >>> buried in mass  graves on the compound. > >>> > >>> During the mid  19th century immigration > through New York was > >>> considerable: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Although  no complete listing survives from > the Marine Hospital of the > >>> tens > >>> of thousands  of inmates, the Richmond County > Mortality Schedule for a 6 > >>> month period from  1849-1850 shows that the > majority of the 650 > >>> individuals > >>> listed were the victims  of the Great Irish > Hunger. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> The cemetery was largely obliterated in the > 1950?s to make the current > >>> municipal parking lot.  A few years ago > during a recent State  of New > >>> York > >>> construction project at the lot, a section of > the original cemetery  was > >>> found > >>> intact under the asphalt as well as finding > substantial scattered  human > >>> remains throughout the site. The majority of > these were removed  and > >>> were > >>> brought back to Staten Island yesterday, Sept. > 29 courtesy of  Herb > >>> Smith > >>> III, > >>> Meislohn Silvie Funeral Home. > >>> > >>> Caskets holding  the remains of the > immigrants that were exhumed from > >>> the > >>> St. George municipal  parking lot will be > brought into St. Peters > >>> Catholic > >>> Church and lead by the  Staten Island Pipes > and Drums,  Ancient Order of > >>> Hibernian's Honor Guard  for the memorial > service. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> When: > >>> Saturday, October 17, 2009 > >>> 10  AM > >>> Memorial Service: > >>> St. Peter's Catholic  Church > >>> St. Marks Place, S.I. NY 10301 > >>> > >>> Edward Cardinal Egan, Monsignor  James Dorney > & Reverand Richard > >>> Michael > >>> officiating > >>> > >>> > >>> Reception at: > >>> 11:00 AM  - 3 PM > >>> Tappen Park Oktoberfest > >>> A German/Irish  Immigrant Celebration > >>> Bay Street @ Water and Canal Street > >>> Stapleton, S.I. 10304 > >>> > >>> > >>> Kilmeyers Old Bavarian  Inn & Manhattan > Beer Distributors will provide > >>> an > >>> Oktoberfest  Cafe.  Refreshments can  be > purchased  Sponsored by:  City > >>> Parks > >>> Foundation, NYC Dept. of Parks and  > Recreation, Friends of Abandoned > >>> Cemeteries and Ancient Order of  Hibernians. > >>> Music donated  by: > >>> Andy Cooney and His  Band > >>> & The Moonshiners  Band > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Lynn A.  Rogers > >>> Executive Director 917-545-3309 > >>> Friends of Abandoned Cemeteries,  Inc. Staten > Island > >>> 158 Myrtle Avenue > >>> Staten Island, New York  10310 > >>> > >>> The Friends of Abandoned Cemeteries is a  not > for profit, New York State > >>> Charitable Organization incorporated in the > State  of NY in 1983.  We > >>> currently serve to protect, preserve, beautify > the 20  known S.I. > >>> abandoned, > >>> neglected or otherwise forgotten Staten > Island  cemeteries.  We maintain > >>> approximately 40 acres of cemetery property > as  well as preserving the > >>> obscure burial > >>> records dating back over 200  years. > >>> > >>> We can gather the information of our ancestors > for  genealogy, which is > >>> the > >>> easy part.  We can also provide a dignified  > final resting place which > >>> is > >>> the part that takes all your  energy. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> email with no additional text. > >>> > >>> > >>> End of NY-IRISH Digest, Vol 4, Issue 167 > >>> **************************************** > >> > >> > >> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and > you? > >> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 2 > >> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:49:31 -0400 > >> From: judy christopher <ajuntasc@gmail.com> > >> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] New York Harbor Quarantine > Hospital > >> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com > >> Cc: genire-request@rootsweb.com, > irish-famine-request@rootsweb.com, > >> IRELAND@rootsweb.com, > ny-irish-request@rootsweb.com, > >> IRISH-FAMINE@rootsweb.com > >> Message-ID: > >> <102894300910010949u1d1006f8g33fd562be9b30a20@mail.gmail.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 > >> > >> This is very sad abd at the same time a good thing > is happening.  It is > >> too > >> bad that the names of these people have been > lost.  Judy Christopher > >> > >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 3:53 PM, <SICemetery@aol.com> > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Report on the Extent and Plight of Emigrants > in New York.  SOURCE The > >>> Belfast > >>> Mercury, April 19th, 1851 > >>> > >>> EMIGRATION TO THE  UNITED STATES. - NEW YORK, > APRIL 2.-The Marine > >>> Hospital > >>> at STATEN ISLAND is  crowded to excess, and a > New York paper observes:-" > >>> The > >>> number of poor people  from Ireland who are > wandering the through the > >>> streets, in a starving condition,  is > dreadful. Every night they go to > >>> the > >>> police > >>> station-houses for food and  shelter. Last > night, in the Fourth-ward > >>> station-house, there were 80 poor  people, of > this description, huddled > >>> together, > >>> and when food was laid before the  children, > they rushed at it, and > >>> devoured > >>> it like hungry wolves. Such are > >>> the victims of Irish Landlordism." - Freeman. > >>> > >>> > >>> The Marine/Quarantine Hospital operated from > 1799-1858 here on Staten > >>> Island.  Countless immigrants  of all > nationalities, entered into New > >>> York > >>> Harbor during those perilous  years only to > be found with infectious > >>> disease, > >>> held in quarantine at  the Marine Hospital on > Staten Island, died and > >>> were > >>> buried in mass  graves on the compound. > >>> > >>> During the mid  19th century immigration > through New York was > >>> considerable: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Although  no complete listing survives from > the Marine Hospital of the > >>> tens > >>> of thousands  of inmates, the Richmond County > Mortality Schedule for a 6 > >>> month period from  1849-1850 shows that the > majority of the 650 > >>> individuals > >>> listed were the victims  of the Great Irish > Hunger. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> The cemetery was largely obliterated in the > 1950?s to make the current > >>> municipal parking lot.  A few years ago > during a recent State  of New > >>> York > >>> construction project at the lot, a section of > the original cemetery  was > >>> found > >>> intact under the asphalt as well as finding > substantial scattered  human > >>> remains throughout the site. The majority of > these were removed  and > >>> were > >>> brought back to Staten Island yesterday, Sept. > 29 courtesy of  Herb > >>> Smith > >>> III, > >>> Meislohn Silvie Funeral Home. > >>> > >>> Caskets holding  the remains of the > immigrants that were exhumed from > >>> the > >>> St. George municipal  parking lot will be > brought into St. Peters > >>> Catholic > >>> Church and lead by the  Staten Island Pipes > and Drums,  Ancient Order of > >>> Hibernian's Honor Guard  for the memorial > service. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> When: > >>> Saturday, October 17, 2009 > >>> 10  AM > >>> Memorial Service: > >>> St. Peter's Catholic  Church > >>> St. Marks Place, S.I. NY 10301 > >>> > >>> Edward Cardinal Egan, Monsignor  James Dorney > & Reverand Richard > >>> Michael > >>> officiating > >>> > >>> > >>> Reception at: > >>> 11:00 AM  - 3 PM > >>>  Tappen Park Oktoberfest > >>> A German/Irish  Immigrant Celebration > >>> Bay Street @ Water and Canal Street > >>> Stapleton, S.I. 10304 > >>> > >>> > >>> Kilmeyers Old Bavarian  Inn & Manhattan > Beer Distributors will provide > >>> an > >>> Oktoberfest  Cafe.  Refreshments can  be > purchased  Sponsored by:  City > >>> Parks > >>> Foundation, NYC Dept. of Parks and  > Recreation, Friends of Abandoned > >>> Cemeteries and Ancient Order of  Hibernians. > >>> Music donated  by: > >>> Andy Cooney and His  Band > >>> & The Moonshiners  Band > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Lynn A.  Rogers > >>> Executive Director 917-545-3309 > >>> Friends of Abandoned Cemeteries,  Inc. Staten > Island > >>> 158 Myrtle Avenue > >>> Staten Island, New York  10310 > >>> > >>> The Friends of Abandoned Cemeteries is a  not > for profit, New York State > >>> Charitable Organization incorporated in the > State  of NY in 1983.  We > >>> currently serve to protect, preserve, beautify > the 20  known S.I. > >>> abandoned, > >>> neglected or otherwise forgotten Staten > Island  cemeteries.  We maintain > >>> approximately 40 acres of cemetery property > as  well as preserving the > >>> obscure burial > >>> records dating back over 200  years. > >>> > >>> We can gather the information of our ancestors > for  genealogy, which is > >>> the > >>> easy part.  We can also provide a dignified  > final resting place which > >>> is > >>> the part that takes all your  energy. > >>> ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > >>> Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing > list website.  Also, > >>> check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the > Surname Registry: > >>> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > >>> NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Judy Christopher > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 3 > >> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:30:08 -0400 > >> From: Kitty <jewelrydolls@verizon.net> > >> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] New York Harbor Quarantine > Hospital > >> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> > >> Message-ID: <C6EC3D80.225B5%jewelrydolls@verizon.net> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >> > >> Lynne, it would have been in Stapleton, that's > where Marine Hospital was. > >> > >> > >> On 10/2/09 9:37 AM, "Lynne Sisk" <siskabob@nycap.rr.com> > wrote: > >> > >>> Could you tell me which town in the Richmond > County Mortality Schedule > >>> would > >>> have those Great Hunger related deaths?  > Thank you. > >>> > >>> Lynne > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 4 > >> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:42:23 EDT > >> From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com > >> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] New York Harbor Quarantine > Hospital > >> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com > >> Message-ID: <cbe.49a5b826.37f8221f@aol.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >> > >> Hi Lynne, > >> The Staten Island Marine/Quarantine Hospital was > built in the Stapleton > >> section of Richmond County. > >> > >> Barb > >> NYC Researcher > >> > >>> Could you tell me which town in the Richmond > County Mortality Schedule > >>> would > >>> have those Great Hunger related deaths?  > Thank you. > >>> > >>> Lynne > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> To contact the NY-IRISH list administrator, send > an email to > >> NY-IRISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > >> > >> To post a message to the NY-IRISH mailing list, > send an email to > >> NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com. > >> > >> > __________________________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > >> NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com > >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in > the subject and the > >> body > >> of the > >> email with no additional text. > >> > >> > >> End of NY-IRISH Digest, Vol 4, Issue 168 > >> **************************************** > >> > > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list > website.  Also, > > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname > Registry: > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list > website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the > Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > >       > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list > website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the > Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

>From everything I have read, if your grandmother had TB when leaving Ireland (a) she probably would not have been allowed on the ship to start with and (b) if she had it when entering NY (exhibiting symptoms) she would have been immediately quarantined and transferred from Ellis Island to one of the other island hospitals so she did not infect others. TB was highly contagious, especially back then and with the close quarters onboard. She would have been held in quarantine until she was well, died or was deported back to Ireland. Many ship passengers contracted serious illnesses while on shipboard, but since the trip from Ireland to NY took about 7 to 10 days (depending on stops) in the 1890s, if she contracted the illness onboard ship she probably would not have been sick enough upon entry into NY to be showing symptoms and quarantined. Maryann -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joy Bugos Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:53 PM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Question about TB sanatorium ________________________________ From: Kay Brearton <Kbrearton@nycap.rr.com> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, October 4, 2009 11:00:05 AM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Question about TB sanatorium I have a relative who died of TB at home. I thought everyone who had it wer removed from the home, but I guess not all were. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erin James" <ej@tampabay.rr.com> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:16 AM Subject: [NY-IRISH] Question about TB sanatorium > Seeing the post about the Quarantine Hospital gave me a thought: I've been > told that my grandmother traveled from Ireland to New York to cure her TB. > This would have been in the late 1890s,  I think. I have my doubts about > the > story but wonder if anyone can think of some way to check it out? The > person > who told me is the last remaining member of the family and her memory may > be > flawed, but I'd love to find out. Any thoughts? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ny-irish-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:01 AM > Subject: NY-IRISH Digest, Vol 4, Issue 168 > > >> >> >> ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== >> Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, >> check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>  1. New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital (Lynne Sisk) >>  2. Re: New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital (judy christopher) >>  3. Re: New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital (Kitty) >>  4. Re: New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital (MizScarlettNY@aol.com) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:37:53 -0400 >> From: "Lynne Sisk" <siskabob@nycap.rr.com> >> Subject: [NY-IRISH] New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital >> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <B2EEAB7A066D4705A09190429373366D@ownerc36a8f1bf> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Could you tell me which town in the Richmond County Mortality Schedule >> would >> have those Great Hunger related deaths?  Thank you. >> >> Lynne >> >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:53:28 EDT >>> From: SICemetery@aol.com >>> Subject: [NY-IRISH] New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital >>> To: IRELAND@rootsweb.com, IRISH-FAMINE@rootsweb.com, >>> irish-famine-request@rootsweb.com >>> Cc: genire-request@rootsweb.com, ny-irish-request@rootsweb.com, >>> NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com >>> Message-ID: <d15.53b979c2.37f51138@aol.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> >>> Report on the Extent and Plight of Emigrants in New York.  SOURCE The >>> Belfast >>> Mercury, April 19th, 1851 >>> >>> EMIGRATION TO THE  UNITED STATES. - NEW YORK, APRIL 2.-The Marine >>> Hospital >>> at STATEN ISLAND is  crowded to excess, and a New York paper observes:-" >>> The >>> number of poor people  from Ireland who are wandering the through the >>> streets, in a starving condition,  is dreadful. Every night they go to >>> the >>> police >>> station-houses for food and  shelter. Last night, in the Fourth-ward >>> station-house, there were 80 poor  people, of this description, huddled >>> together, >>> and when food was laid before the  children, they rushed at it, and >>> devoured >>> it like hungry wolves. Such are >>> the victims of Irish Landlordism." - Freeman. >>> >>> >>> The Marine/Quarantine Hospital operated from 1799-1858 here on Staten >>> Island.  Countless immigrants  of all nationalities, entered into New >>> York >>> Harbor during those perilous  years only to be found with infectious >>> disease, >>> held in quarantine at  the Marine Hospital on Staten Island, died and >>> were >>> buried in mass  graves on the compound. >>> >>> During the mid  19th century immigration through New York was >>> considerable: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Although  no complete listing survives from the Marine Hospital of the >>> tens >>> of thousands  of inmates, the Richmond County Mortality Schedule for a 6 >>> month period from  1849-1850 shows that the majority of the 650 >>> individuals >>> listed were the victims  of the Great Irish Hunger. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The cemetery was largely obliterated in the 1950?s to make the current >>> municipal parking lot.  A few years ago during a recent State  of New >>> York >>> construction project at the lot, a section of the original cemetery  was >>> found >>> intact under the asphalt as well as finding substantial scattered  human >>> remains throughout the site. The majority of these were removed  and >>> were >>> brought back to Staten Island yesterday, Sept. 29 courtesy of  Herb >>> Smith >>> III, >>> Meislohn Silvie Funeral Home. >>> >>> Caskets holding  the remains of the immigrants that were exhumed from >>> the >>> St. George municipal  parking lot will be brought into St. Peters >>> Catholic >>> Church and lead by the  Staten Island Pipes and Drums,  Ancient Order of >>> Hibernian's Honor Guard  for the memorial service. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> When: >>> Saturday, October 17, 2009 >>> 10  AM >>> Memorial Service: >>> St. Peter's Catholic  Church >>> St. Marks Place, S.I. NY 10301 >>> >>> Edward Cardinal Egan, Monsignor  James Dorney & Reverand Richard >>> Michael >>> officiating >>> >>> >>> Reception at: >>> 11:00 AM  - 3 PM >>> Tappen Park Oktoberfest >>> A German/Irish  Immigrant Celebration >>> Bay Street @ Water and Canal Street >>> Stapleton, S.I. 10304 >>> >>> >>> Kilmeyers Old Bavarian  Inn & Manhattan Beer Distributors will provide >>> an >>> Oktoberfest  Cafe.  Refreshments can  be purchased  Sponsored by:  City >>> Parks >>> Foundation, NYC Dept. of Parks and  Recreation, Friends of Abandoned >>> Cemeteries and Ancient Order of  Hibernians. >>> Music donated  by: >>> Andy Cooney and His  Band >>> & The Moonshiners  Band >>> >>> >>> >>> Lynn A.  Rogers >>> Executive Director 917-545-3309 >>> Friends of Abandoned Cemeteries,  Inc. Staten Island >>> 158 Myrtle Avenue >>> Staten Island, New York  10310 >>> >>> The Friends of Abandoned Cemeteries is a  not for profit, New York State >>> Charitable Organization incorporated in the State  of NY in 1983.  We >>> currently serve to protect, preserve, beautify the 20  known S.I. >>> abandoned, >>> neglected or otherwise forgotten Staten Island  cemeteries.  We maintain >>> approximately 40 acres of cemetery property as  well as preserving the >>> obscure burial >>> records dating back over 200  years. >>> >>> We can gather the information of our ancestors for  genealogy, which is >>> the >>> easy part.  We can also provide a dignified  final resting place which >>> is >>> the part that takes all your  energy. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> email with no additional text. >>> >>> >>> End of NY-IRISH Digest, Vol 4, Issue 167 >>> **************************************** >> >> >> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? >> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:49:31 -0400 >> From: judy christopher <ajuntasc@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital >> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com >> Cc: genire-request@rootsweb.com, irish-famine-request@rootsweb.com, >> IRELAND@rootsweb.com, ny-irish-request@rootsweb.com, >> IRISH-FAMINE@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <102894300910010949u1d1006f8g33fd562be9b30a20@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >> >> This is very sad abd at the same time a good thing is happening.  It is >> too >> bad that the names of these people have been lost.  Judy Christopher >> >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 3:53 PM, <SICemetery@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Report on the Extent and Plight of Emigrants in New York.  SOURCE The >>> Belfast >>> Mercury, April 19th, 1851 >>> >>> EMIGRATION TO THE  UNITED STATES. - NEW YORK, APRIL 2.-The Marine >>> Hospital >>> at STATEN ISLAND is  crowded to excess, and a New York paper observes:-" >>> The >>> number of poor people  from Ireland who are wandering the through the >>> streets, in a starving condition,  is dreadful. Every night they go to >>> the >>> police >>> station-houses for food and  shelter. Last night, in the Fourth-ward >>> station-house, there were 80 poor  people, of this description, huddled >>> together, >>> and when food was laid before the  children, they rushed at it, and >>> devoured >>> it like hungry wolves. Such are >>> the victims of Irish Landlordism." - Freeman. >>> >>> >>> The Marine/Quarantine Hospital operated from 1799-1858 here on Staten >>> Island.  Countless immigrants  of all nationalities, entered into New >>> York >>> Harbor during those perilous  years only to be found with infectious >>> disease, >>> held in quarantine at  the Marine Hospital on Staten Island, died and >>> were >>> buried in mass  graves on the compound. >>> >>> During the mid  19th century immigration through New York was >>> considerable: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Although  no complete listing survives from the Marine Hospital of the >>> tens >>> of thousands  of inmates, the Richmond County Mortality Schedule for a 6 >>> month period from  1849-1850 shows that the majority of the 650 >>> individuals >>> listed were the victims  of the Great Irish Hunger. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The cemetery was largely obliterated in the 1950?s to make the current >>> municipal parking lot.  A few years ago during a recent State  of New >>> York >>> construction project at the lot, a section of the original cemetery  was >>> found >>> intact under the asphalt as well as finding substantial scattered  human >>> remains throughout the site. The majority of these were removed  and >>> were >>> brought back to Staten Island yesterday, Sept. 29 courtesy of  Herb >>> Smith >>> III, >>> Meislohn Silvie Funeral Home. >>> >>> Caskets holding  the remains of the immigrants that were exhumed from >>> the >>> St. George municipal  parking lot will be brought into St. Peters >>> Catholic >>> Church and lead by the  Staten Island Pipes and Drums,  Ancient Order of >>> Hibernian's Honor Guard  for the memorial service. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> When: >>> Saturday, October 17, 2009 >>> 10  AM >>> Memorial Service: >>> St. Peter's Catholic  Church >>> St. Marks Place, S.I. NY 10301 >>> >>> Edward Cardinal Egan, Monsignor  James Dorney & Reverand Richard >>> Michael >>> officiating >>> >>> >>> Reception at: >>> 11:00 AM  - 3 PM >>>  Tappen Park Oktoberfest >>> A German/Irish  Immigrant Celebration >>> Bay Street @ Water and Canal Street >>> Stapleton, S.I. 10304 >>> >>> >>> Kilmeyers Old Bavarian  Inn & Manhattan Beer Distributors will provide >>> an >>> Oktoberfest  Cafe.  Refreshments can  be purchased  Sponsored by:  City >>> Parks >>> Foundation, NYC Dept. of Parks and  Recreation, Friends of Abandoned >>> Cemeteries and Ancient Order of  Hibernians. >>> Music donated  by: >>> Andy Cooney and His  Band >>> & The Moonshiners  Band >>> >>> >>> >>> Lynn A.  Rogers >>> Executive Director 917-545-3309 >>> Friends of Abandoned Cemeteries,  Inc. Staten Island >>> 158 Myrtle Avenue >>> Staten Island, New York  10310 >>> >>> The Friends of Abandoned Cemeteries is a  not for profit, New York State >>> Charitable Organization incorporated in the State  of NY in 1983.  We >>> currently serve to protect, preserve, beautify the 20  known S.I. >>> abandoned, >>> neglected or otherwise forgotten Staten Island  cemeteries.  We maintain >>> approximately 40 acres of cemetery property as  well as preserving the >>> obscure burial >>> records dating back over 200  years. >>> >>> We can gather the information of our ancestors for  genealogy, which is >>> the >>> easy part.  We can also provide a dignified  final resting place which >>> is >>> the part that takes all your  energy. >>> ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== >>> Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, >>> check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: >>> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Judy Christopher >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:30:08 -0400 >> From: Kitty <jewelrydolls@verizon.net> >> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital >> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <C6EC3D80.225B5%jewelrydolls@verizon.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >> >> Lynne, it would have been in Stapleton, that's where Marine Hospital was. >> >> >> On 10/2/09 9:37 AM, "Lynne Sisk" <siskabob@nycap.rr.com> wrote: >> >>> Could you tell me which town in the Richmond County Mortality Schedule >>> would >>> have those Great Hunger related deaths?  Thank you. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:42:23 EDT >> From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital >> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <cbe.49a5b826.37f8221f@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> Hi Lynne, >> The Staten Island Marine/Quarantine Hospital was built in the Stapleton >> section of Richmond County. >> >> Barb >> NYC Researcher >> >>> Could you tell me which town in the Richmond County Mortality Schedule >>> would >>> have those Great Hunger related deaths?  Thank you. >>> >>> Lynne >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the NY-IRISH list administrator, send an email to >> NY-IRISH-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the NY-IRISH mailing list, send an email to >> NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of NY-IRISH Digest, Vol 4, Issue 168 >> **************************************** >> > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. 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FYI, this book is out of print, for anyone interested in purchasing it. Additionally, Mr. Joseph SILINONTE, renowned NYC area genealogist, is deceased for about four years. He had his own website, where his books could be ordered, and now that web address is up for sale. Kind of a sad ending to a man who had such passion for his city and its people. Barb NYC Researcher MAS13751@aol.com writes: > Does anyone have access to Bishop Loughlin's Dispensations, Diocese of > Brooklyn, 1859-1866, Volume I: Genealogical Information from the Marriage > > Dispensation Records of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Brooklyn, Kings, > Queens > and Suffolk Counties, New York. by Silinote, Joseph M.?

Have you checked the different censuses?  They have nativity on them. IE; Mother: Ireland Father: Scotland etc.  Off the top of my head 1900 census comes to mind with lots of info for us seekers. Jeanine --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Pat <liz3638@comcast.net> wrote: From: Pat <liz3638@comcast.net> Subject: [NY-IRISH] Cummin To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 4:09 PM I have a list of " Cummin" names found in the family bible, there are 11 CUMMIN listed,  Births and deaths, the earliest is 1802 and the latest date is 1846, My question is are they Irish or Scotch? I do have a Thomas Cummings who is my g grandfather, do not know when or where  born  other than ireland, married Elenor lynch born ireland 1833, They both died in NYC, can not find his death certif,  But my question is would  the list of Cummin's  be irish or scotch, Where could i start to do some research? Patricia IN ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a list of " Cummin" names found in the family bible, there are 11 CUMMIN listed, Births and deaths, the earliest is 1802 and the latest date is 1846, My question is are they Irish or Scotch? I do have a Thomas Cummings who is my g grandfather, do not know when or where born other than ireland, married Elenor lynch born ireland 1833, They both died in NYC, can not find his death certif, But my question is would the list of Cummin's be irish or scotch, Where could i start to do some research? Patricia IN

________________________________ From: Kay Brearton <Kbrearton@nycap.rr.com> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, October 4, 2009 11:00:05 AM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Question about TB sanatorium I have a relative who died of TB at home. I thought everyone who had it wer removed from the home, but I guess not all were. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erin James" <ej@tampabay.rr.com> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:16 AM Subject: [NY-IRISH] Question about TB sanatorium > Seeing the post about the Quarantine Hospital gave me a thought: I've been > told that my grandmother traveled from Ireland to New York to cure her TB. > This would have been in the late 1890s,  I think. I have my doubts about > the > story but wonder if anyone can think of some way to check it out? The > person > who told me is the last remaining member of the family and her memory may > be > flawed, but I'd love to find out. Any thoughts? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ny-irish-request@rootsweb.com> > To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:01 AM > Subject: NY-IRISH Digest, Vol 4, Issue 168 > > >> >> >> ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== >> Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, >> check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>  1. New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital (Lynne Sisk) >>  2. Re: New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital (judy christopher) >>  3. Re: New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital (Kitty) >>  4. Re: New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital (MizScarlettNY@aol.com) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:37:53 -0400 >> From: "Lynne Sisk" <siskabob@nycap.rr.com> >> Subject: [NY-IRISH] New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital >> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <B2EEAB7A066D4705A09190429373366D@ownerc36a8f1bf> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Could you tell me which town in the Richmond County Mortality Schedule >> would >> have those Great Hunger related deaths?  Thank you. >> >> Lynne >> >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:53:28 EDT >>> From: SICemetery@aol.com >>> Subject: [NY-IRISH] New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital >>> To: IRELAND@rootsweb.com, IRISH-FAMINE@rootsweb.com, >>> irish-famine-request@rootsweb.com >>> Cc: genire-request@rootsweb.com, ny-irish-request@rootsweb.com, >>> NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com >>> Message-ID: <d15.53b979c2.37f51138@aol.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >>> >>> >>> Report on the Extent and Plight of Emigrants in New York.  SOURCE The >>> Belfast >>> Mercury, April 19th, 1851 >>> >>> EMIGRATION TO THE  UNITED STATES. - NEW YORK, APRIL 2.-The Marine >>> Hospital >>> at STATEN ISLAND is  crowded to excess, and a New York paper observes:-" >>> The >>> number of poor people  from Ireland who are wandering the through the >>> streets, in a starving condition,  is dreadful. Every night they go to >>> the >>> police >>> station-houses for food and  shelter. Last night, in the Fourth-ward >>> station-house, there were 80 poor  people, of this description, huddled >>> together, >>> and when food was laid before the  children, they rushed at it, and >>> devoured >>> it like hungry wolves. Such are >>> the victims of Irish Landlordism." - Freeman. >>> >>> >>> The Marine/Quarantine Hospital operated from 1799-1858 here on Staten >>> Island.  Countless immigrants  of all nationalities, entered into New >>> York >>> Harbor during those perilous  years only to be found with infectious >>> disease, >>> held in quarantine at  the Marine Hospital on Staten Island, died and >>> were >>> buried in mass  graves on the compound. >>> >>> During the mid  19th century immigration through New York was >>> considerable: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Although  no complete listing survives from the Marine Hospital of the >>> tens >>> of thousands  of inmates, the Richmond County Mortality Schedule for a 6 >>> month period from  1849-1850 shows that the majority of the 650 >>> individuals >>> listed were the victims  of the Great Irish Hunger. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The cemetery was largely obliterated in the 1950?s to make the current >>> municipal parking lot.  A few years ago during a recent State  of New >>> York >>> construction project at the lot, a section of the original cemetery  was >>> found >>> intact under the asphalt as well as finding substantial scattered  human >>> remains throughout the site. The majority of these were removed  and >>> were >>> brought back to Staten Island yesterday, Sept. 29 courtesy of  Herb >>> Smith >>> III, >>> Meislohn Silvie Funeral Home. >>> >>> Caskets holding  the remains of the immigrants that were exhumed from >>> the >>> St. George municipal  parking lot will be brought into St. Peters >>> Catholic >>> Church and lead by the  Staten Island Pipes and Drums,  Ancient Order of >>> Hibernian's Honor Guard  for the memorial service. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> When: >>> Saturday, October 17, 2009 >>> 10  AM >>> Memorial Service: >>> St. Peter's Catholic  Church >>> St. Marks Place, S.I. NY 10301 >>> >>> Edward Cardinal Egan, Monsignor  James Dorney & Reverand Richard >>> Michael >>> officiating >>> >>> >>> Reception at: >>> 11:00 AM  - 3 PM >>> Tappen Park Oktoberfest >>> A German/Irish  Immigrant Celebration >>> Bay Street @ Water and Canal Street >>> Stapleton, S.I. 10304 >>> >>> >>> Kilmeyers Old Bavarian  Inn & Manhattan Beer Distributors will provide >>> an >>> Oktoberfest  Cafe.  Refreshments can  be purchased  Sponsored by:  City >>> Parks >>> Foundation, NYC Dept. of Parks and  Recreation, Friends of Abandoned >>> Cemeteries and Ancient Order of  Hibernians. >>> Music donated  by: >>> Andy Cooney and His  Band >>> & The Moonshiners  Band >>> >>> >>> >>> Lynn A.  Rogers >>> Executive Director 917-545-3309 >>> Friends of Abandoned Cemeteries,  Inc. Staten Island >>> 158 Myrtle Avenue >>> Staten Island, New York  10310 >>> >>> The Friends of Abandoned Cemeteries is a  not for profit, New York State >>> Charitable Organization incorporated in the State  of NY in 1983.  We >>> currently serve to protect, preserve, beautify the 20  known S.I. >>> abandoned, >>> neglected or otherwise forgotten Staten Island  cemeteries.  We maintain >>> approximately 40 acres of cemetery property as  well as preserving the >>> obscure burial >>> records dating back over 200  years. >>> >>> We can gather the information of our ancestors for  genealogy, which is >>> the >>> easy part.  We can also provide a dignified  final resting place which >>> is >>> the part that takes all your  energy. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> email with no additional text. >>> >>> >>> End of NY-IRISH Digest, Vol 4, Issue 167 >>> **************************************** >> >> >> I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? >> http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 12:49:31 -0400 >> From: judy christopher <ajuntasc@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital >> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com >> Cc: genire-request@rootsweb.com, irish-famine-request@rootsweb.com, >> IRELAND@rootsweb.com, ny-irish-request@rootsweb.com, >> IRISH-FAMINE@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <102894300910010949u1d1006f8g33fd562be9b30a20@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 >> >> This is very sad abd at the same time a good thing is happening.  It is >> too >> bad that the names of these people have been lost.  Judy Christopher >> >> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 3:53 PM, <SICemetery@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Report on the Extent and Plight of Emigrants in New York.  SOURCE The >>> Belfast >>> Mercury, April 19th, 1851 >>> >>> EMIGRATION TO THE  UNITED STATES. - NEW YORK, APRIL 2.-The Marine >>> Hospital >>> at STATEN ISLAND is  crowded to excess, and a New York paper observes:-" >>> The >>> number of poor people  from Ireland who are wandering the through the >>> streets, in a starving condition,  is dreadful. Every night they go to >>> the >>> police >>> station-houses for food and  shelter. Last night, in the Fourth-ward >>> station-house, there were 80 poor  people, of this description, huddled >>> together, >>> and when food was laid before the  children, they rushed at it, and >>> devoured >>> it like hungry wolves. Such are >>> the victims of Irish Landlordism." - Freeman. >>> >>> >>> The Marine/Quarantine Hospital operated from 1799-1858 here on Staten >>> Island.  Countless immigrants  of all nationalities, entered into New >>> York >>> Harbor during those perilous  years only to be found with infectious >>> disease, >>> held in quarantine at  the Marine Hospital on Staten Island, died and >>> were >>> buried in mass  graves on the compound. >>> >>> During the mid  19th century immigration through New York was >>> considerable: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Although  no complete listing survives from the Marine Hospital of the >>> tens >>> of thousands  of inmates, the Richmond County Mortality Schedule for a 6 >>> month period from  1849-1850 shows that the majority of the 650 >>> individuals >>> listed were the victims  of the Great Irish Hunger. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The cemetery was largely obliterated in the 1950?s to make the current >>> municipal parking lot.  A few years ago during a recent State  of New >>> York >>> construction project at the lot, a section of the original cemetery  was >>> found >>> intact under the asphalt as well as finding substantial scattered  human >>> remains throughout the site. The majority of these were removed  and >>> were >>> brought back to Staten Island yesterday, Sept. 29 courtesy of  Herb >>> Smith >>> III, >>> Meislohn Silvie Funeral Home. >>> >>> Caskets holding  the remains of the immigrants that were exhumed from >>> the >>> St. George municipal  parking lot will be brought into St. Peters >>> Catholic >>> Church and lead by the  Staten Island Pipes and Drums,  Ancient Order of >>> Hibernian's Honor Guard  for the memorial service. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> When: >>> Saturday, October 17, 2009 >>> 10  AM >>> Memorial Service: >>> St. Peter's Catholic  Church >>> St. Marks Place, S.I. NY 10301 >>> >>> Edward Cardinal Egan, Monsignor  James Dorney & Reverand Richard >>> Michael >>> officiating >>> >>> >>> Reception at: >>> 11:00 AM  - 3 PM >>>  Tappen Park Oktoberfest >>> A German/Irish  Immigrant Celebration >>> Bay Street @ Water and Canal Street >>> Stapleton, S.I. 10304 >>> >>> >>> Kilmeyers Old Bavarian  Inn & Manhattan Beer Distributors will provide >>> an >>> Oktoberfest  Cafe.  Refreshments can  be purchased  Sponsored by:  City >>> Parks >>> Foundation, NYC Dept. of Parks and  Recreation, Friends of Abandoned >>> Cemeteries and Ancient Order of  Hibernians. >>> Music donated  by: >>> Andy Cooney and His  Band >>> & The Moonshiners  Band >>> >>> >>> >>> Lynn A.  Rogers >>> Executive Director 917-545-3309 >>> Friends of Abandoned Cemeteries,  Inc. Staten Island >>> 158 Myrtle Avenue >>> Staten Island, New York  10310 >>> >>> The Friends of Abandoned Cemeteries is a  not for profit, New York State >>> Charitable Organization incorporated in the State  of NY in 1983.  We >>> currently serve to protect, preserve, beautify the 20  known S.I. >>> abandoned, >>> neglected or otherwise forgotten Staten Island  cemeteries.  We maintain >>> approximately 40 acres of cemetery property as  well as preserving the >>> obscure burial >>> records dating back over 200  years. >>> >>> We can gather the information of our ancestors for  genealogy, which is >>> the >>> easy part.  We can also provide a dignified  final resting place which >>> is >>> the part that takes all your  energy. >>> ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== >>> Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, >>> check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: >>> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Judy Christopher >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:30:08 -0400 >> From: Kitty <jewelrydolls@verizon.net> >> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital >> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <C6EC3D80.225B5%jewelrydolls@verizon.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >> >> Lynne, it would have been in Stapleton, that's where Marine Hospital was. >> >> >> On 10/2/09 9:37 AM, "Lynne Sisk" <siskabob@nycap.rr.com> wrote: >> >>> Could you tell me which town in the Richmond County Mortality Schedule >>> would >>> have those Great Hunger related deaths?  Thank you. >>> >>> Lynne >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 23:42:23 EDT >> From: MizScarlettNY@aol.com >> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] New York Harbor Quarantine Hospital >> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <cbe.49a5b826.37f8221f@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> Hi Lynne, >> The Staten Island Marine/Quarantine Hospital was built in the Stapleton >> section of Richmond County. >> >> Barb >> NYC Researcher >> >>> Could you tell me which town in the Richmond County Mortality Schedule >>> would >>> have those Great Hunger related deaths?  Thank you. >>> >>> Lynne >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the NY-IRISH list administrator, send an email to >> NY-IRISH-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the NY-IRISH mailing list, send an email to >> NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of NY-IRISH Digest, Vol 4, Issue 168 >> **************************************** >> > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks so much...turns out not my Michael McMahon... In a message dated 12/8/2009 12:36:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, marnold@princeton.edu writes: You are receiving this e-mail from http://www.ancestry.com at the request of marnold@princeton.edu. Sender's comments: This is an article written by the author of the "Dispensations" book. It will give you a better idea of what is covered in the book which should be available through inter-library loan if you are interested in searching it yourself ISBN: 0919387292 by Joseph Silinonte. Maryann Article details. Title: Marriage Dispensations: An Untapped Source for Catholics and Non-Catholics Abstract: Dispensation records can contain vital information about Catholics and non-Catholics, since they are records of appeals often regarding interfaith marriages. Tapping into this overlooked source can yield unique information. The full article can be found at: http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library/article.aspx?article=2447 ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message