Did you know that the FamilySearch.org site has online telecasts on how to do Irish genealogy research? Well they do and the cover the following topics: Church Records, Civil Registration, Immigration Part 1: Strategies, Immigration Part 2: Famine/Post Famine Sources, Immigration Part 3: Ulster/Scots Irish Sources 1. Go to FamilySearch.org and under the Library tab, click on Education 2. Under 'Those sponsored by the Library include:' click on Family History Library Research Series Online 3. Click on Ireland Research (NEW) 4. Click on the topic of your interest I haven't used any of the online courses as yet but if you have, please post to the list about what you thought about them and whether they were worth watching. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

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Happy New Year! If anyone wants to see what has been added in 2009 use this tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/ylkyaar If you want to narrow to a county just put +kerry or +cork or +ryan (as examples) and you can narrow down items added in the last year. Or take the 2009 out and search all :) Regards, Christina http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ http://www.genrecords.org/irfiles/

Thanks to two wonderful people in New York State, the transcription for the Cloone Civil Parish GV is nearing completion. Today, I got their first work online for the part of the civil parish in Carrigallen Barony, over 600 names. The rest of the parish, Mohill Barony, is more than half way completed and should be online by the end of the month. Thanks to Rose and Kevin for their help in getting this very large civil parish online. If anyone else would like to help, contact me off the list. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Pat and Sheila, Great info and lots of work. Thanks for sharing with us. My focus is really County Galway but can't help but appreciate what you have made available...and wish... Another Sheila

I mean 2000 something Nancy

My sister went over there to ireland in 200 something and brought back a bunch of info on our family but still a lot missing on Hayes Nancy

Hi, I was in a hurry yesterday and I saw all the Ireland churches ,all the tings you sent out to somebody about grave sites etc do you remember that e-mail? You had a lot of info on Tipperary history on before 1800 nancy

Sheila, again great stuff! And I love how you put the yellow on the surnames, makes it very easy to search for our surnames. I've have been researching the US State Department records at the > US National Archives. These paper documents frequently identify the > townland connected to a person as well as a location in the United > States and names of relatives. These records only exist for a small > number of Irish people and only for limited years. I have transcribed > the names, places and dates from > > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

I am not really sure what you are referring to, Nancy? If you can be more specific over what 'stuff' I have, I can tell you how or where to get it. To make the web pages for the Tipperary website, I use books, maps and the internet. I use a combination of sources, most of which are free. > Is it possible to get a e-mail of all the Tipperary stuff? If not where can > I get this stuff that you got I will pay you for it if i have to. I would > kill to get all that you have. > <http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/> > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Hi, Is it possible to get a e-mail of all the Tipperary stuff? If not where can I get this stuff that you got I will pay you for it if i have to. I would kill to get all that you have. Thanks so much Nancy Hayes _NLH3000@aol.com_ (mailto:NLH3000@aol.com)

I've have been researching the US State Department records at the US National Archives. These paper documents frequently identify the townland connected to a person as well as a location in the United States and names of relatives. These records only exist for a small number of Irish people and only for limited years. I have transcribed the names, places and dates from - 190 reports of the death of American Citizen who died in Ireland 1910-1928 posted 31 Dec 2009 - 670 registration of American citizens living in Ireland 1907-1928 posted Nov 2009 The web site location is http://sites.google.com/site/irishgleanings/ Look to the left side and click on the entry "Extracts from the reports on the deaths of American Citizens in Ireland 1910-1929." There can be a few documents earlier than the listed beginning year or later than the listed end year. Perhaps you will find a connection to a person you are searching. Use the search function of the web browser to locate names and places. If you don't find your ancestor listed search for their brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles or cousins. Some of these people seem to have returned to Ireland for their permanent residence so their descendants may live in Ireland today. Hope this helps your search. Regards, Sheila irishgen2009@gmail.com

I have just completed another large update for the County Tipperary website on the Ireland GenWeb Projects. I add webpages for five more civil parishes and 57 more townlands. There are now over 1,640 townland pages and 95 civil parish pages. All include links, surname contacts, and Family History Library film numbers. Most of the civil parish webpages also include maps of the parish with all the townlands delineated and the Samuel Lewis 1837 description of the parish. There are pictures and records on many of the pages. If you have records and pictures you'd like to contribute or comments on any of the pages, please contact me off the list. You can find the site at: http://www.irelandgenweb.com/~irltip/ -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Lois, I noticed the BOYLE name in your reply to 'Carol'. I wondered where in Ireland your Boyles are from. My paternal gggmother's maiden name was Winifred Boyle. She was from Annaghdown RC in Co. Galway. She was probably born sometime around 1800/1810, and was married to my gggfather, Thomas Divily/Divilly/Devilly (now Diviney). Terry Bora in Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lois Holcomb" <locomb@cruzio.com> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Searching back from NY to Ireland Dear Carol: I have used this site on a limited basis (it's very exoensive) but it could be useful I think. The information is often spotty and disappointing. Good luck, Irish research is tough. I've been doing it for 10 years. Lois Holcomb (Boyle-Irish name) On Dec 23, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Nick & Carol wrote:

Actually there is not a Waterford County in NY but in Ireland they usually say the county first, like County Waterford, River Shannon, etc. If you records say born 'County Waterford, Ireland', then don't look any further than Ireland. Probably written that way by a USA clerk. Since they were married 8 years in 1910 and there is no record for them in MA and they came from NY, is it possible they married in NY. Are we talking about the state or the City? If the City, there are good marriage records for that time and an index is online at: http://www.italiangen.org/VRECLIST.stm <http://www.italiangen.org/VRECLIST.stm> If they married in the City, you can send for their death certificate using the marriage number found in the index. Family History Library has filmed all the indexes and certificates and you can find their numbers at a site I maintain at: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nynewyo2/ <http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Enynewyo2/> Under the Genealogy button, click on Vital Records. Go to LDS Vital Records Films. As far as passenger records, have you tried the Ellis Island site? They started using the center in 1892 so you ancestors would have been processed there if the emigrated to NY first before going to MA. This is a great website with an excellent search engine. http://www.ellisisland.org/ And, it's free. > Actually there is not a Waterford County in NY but in Ireland they > usually say the county first, like County Waterford, River Shannon, > etc. If you records say born 'County Waterford, Ireland', then don't > look any further than Ireland. Probably written that way by a USA > clerk. Since they were married 8 years in 1910 and there is no record > for them in MA and they came from NY, is it possible they married in > NY. Are we talking about the state or the City? If the City, there > are good marriage records for that time and an index is online at: > http://www.italiangen.org/VRECLIST.stm > <http://www.italiangen.org/VRECLIST.stm> > > If they married in the City, you can send for their death certificate > using the marriage number found in the index. Family History Library > has filmed all the indexes and certificates and you can find their > numbers at a site I maintain at: > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nynewyo2/ > <http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/%7Enynewyo2/> > Under the Genealogy button, click on Vital Records. Go to LDS Vital > Records Films. > > > As far as passenger records, have you tried the Ellis Island site? > They started using the center in 1892 so you ancestors would have been > processed there if the emigrated to NY first before going to MA. This > is a great website with an excellent search engine. > http://www.ellisisland.org/ > And, it's free. > > > > > Hi Pat; I was just searching my e-mails for the NY-Irish and found > your response. I had missed it. Thank you for your response. I had > no idea there was a Waterford County in New York and that is something > I will have to keep in mind. I appreciate that. My grandmothers > birth record said parents place of birth was "Waterford County, > Ireland" but you know how that can be, they did come to Mass from New > York. I do not have a marriage record for them yet. That is what I > am currently trying to find as it would probably have parent names on > it. For the 1910 census they were living in Mass, had been married 8 > years and immigration dates were shown as 1901 for him and 1898 for > her. This means they would have to have married in the US. I know > there is no marriage record for them in Massachusetts. My grandmother > said they were in New York before they came to Massachusetts and she > was born in 1903. At least I have a fairly narrow window to search. Now > I am faced with the daunting prospect of searching New York which I > don't know much about. No immigration records have given a clue as to > possible family/extended family. > > btw - I have a membership at the New England Historical Society which > expires the end of January. It includes online access for > Massachusetts BMD's through 1915. If anyone needs anything looked up > please let me know and I will do that for you. The online database > includes a photo of the original record. > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

I have just put online, on the Tipperary section of my website, more of the Tipperary Town district 1852 Petty Court Session records. I now have all of 1852 transcribed and online. My transcription includes the names of the defendants and the complainants with the places they lived. The rest of the court record includes offense and sentence and is very interesting and I recommend you take the time to look at the films with these records if you find a name that maybe your ancestor. Some were sentenced to 'hard labor' and 'lashings'. However, beware of the spellings of both names and placenames. The court clerk was spelling challenged plus I believe he has some of the civil parishes wrong. In all there are over 2,000 cases for the year. Also on the Tipperary section of my website, you will find the tithe applotment index for Mora Civil Parish in the South Riding. Many thanks to Paul Delahunty who contributed the transcription to the website. I am currently working on St Patricksrock Civil Parish tithes and they should go online right after the New Year. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

I've used the site with excellent results, finding the death records for my gr-gr-grandparents in Leitrim. One death record gave the name of a son, who was witness to the death, which opened up a whole new line of research in Ireland, and now we have a lead on living cousins in Ireland. However, I did pay for a lot of records that were not my family, even though they sounded promising. Another option is to pay for research through the Irish county genealogy centers (who put together the database). I used the County Cavan one to research a gr-grandmother where after years of researching, I just had the names of her parents and siblings. I was able to send them this info, and they were able to provide a number of records that appear to be my family. I think the research cost about $120 US, but it included the copies of the records from the database, plus other information. They were able to weed through the records for similar names to find the ones belonging to my family. One of the advantages of using these genealogy centers is that they will then respond to questions, sometimes years later. A cousin paid for research in Leitrim, and they were so helpful many years later when I planned a trip to Leitrim, including looking up in the tax records to see who now owned property in the townland. This enabled me to contact the current owners and walk on the land where my gr-grandfather was born. If you do use one of these centers, be sure to ask lots of questions, such as the exact location of churches, in case you or another family member wants to visit years later. Melanie Egan Orlando (Researching Charles, Beirne, Curtis, Kelliher, Gleeson, Smith, Ahearn)

Hi Janet, First of all there is no Waterford County in New York. Waterford is a town in Saratoga County. Here is a link with all of the information on New York State vital records. http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/genealogy/vitrec.htm I would get a copy of the great grandparents' death certificates. They usually have the names of the parents. Assuming you locate a marriage record, contact the church for the parents' names. Good luck. I think you will be able to find the information you are looking for. Lynne I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you? http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html

Dear Carol: I have used this site on a limited basis (it's very exoensive) but it could be useful I think. The information is often spotty and disappointing. Good luck, Irish research is tough. I've been doing it for 10 years. Lois Holcomb (Boyle-Irish name) On Dec 23, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Nick & Carol wrote: > I'm trying to make the jump from my Irish ancestors in NY back to > County Cork but I have yet to make any concrete links. Partly this is > due to me not being able to find out when they immigrated so that > means I haven't been able to get any info on their home towns and > such. But that's another day's question... > > Has anyone used the website organized by the Irish Family History > Foundation, http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/? They've just added some > records to their online database, and I'd like to view some of them, > but at €5.00 per record, that can get pretty expensive pretty quick, > esp if the records don't contain the info I'm hoping for. So, if you > have paid to view records at that site, esp from Co. Cork, I have a > couple of questions for you. > > 1. Does the birth record give the full name of each parent (including > the mother's maiden name)? What other info does it give? > > 2. Does the marriage record give the names of the bride and groom's > parents? Does it give the town where the bride and groom are from? > Any other info? > > Thank you so much, > > Merry Christmas! > > Carol Hokana > Boston > (now researching HALLORAN, O'CONNELL, and HIGGINS in Co. Cork) > > > P.S. Their website is changing from http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/ > to http://www.RootsIreland.ie > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http:// > www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message