Since St. Patrick's Day is coming up fast (the parade is this Sunday on Staten Island) herewith a couple of lovely old-fashioned Irish songs, first sent to the list eight years ago. Don't know who wrote them, but i'm sure you'll enjoy them. The Babies on Our Block If you want more information, or in need of merriment, Come over with me socially to Murphy's tenement, He owns a row of houses in the first ward near the dock, Where Ireland's represented by the babies on our block. There's the Phelans and the Whelans, from the sweet Doknockadees, They're sitting on the railings with their children on their knees, All gossiping and talking with their neighbors in a flock, Singing "Little Sally Waters" with the babies on our block. On a warm day in the Summer when the breeze blows off the sea, A hundred thousand chil-deren lay on the Battery, They come from Murphy's buildings, oh the noise would stop a clock, Ah, there's no preambulatory with the babies on our block. There's the Clearys and the Learys, from the sweet backwater side, They're laying on the Battery and they're gazing at the tide, All royal blood and normal, all of Dan O'Connell stock, Singing "Little Sally Waters" with the babies on our block. It's good morning to you landlord, and how are you today, When Patrick Murphy Escue-ire comes down the alleyway In a shiny silken beaver, he's as solid as a rock, The envy of the neighbor boys aliving off our block. There's the Brennans and the Gannons, Far Down and Connaught men, Right easy with the shovel and so handy with the pen, All neighborly and friendly, with relations by the flock, Singing "Little Sally Waters" with the babies on our block. This one is in much the same vein: Paddy Duffy's Cart The many happy evenings I spent when but a lad, On Paddy Duffy's lumber cart, quite safe away from dad, It stood down on the corner, near the old lamplight, You'd see a congregation there on every Summer night. Ah, there was Tommy Dobson, now a sena-tore, Jimmy Flynn and Johnny Glynn, ah they were killed in war, All merry boyish comrades, recollections bring, All seated there in Duffy's cart on Summer nights to sing. We'd gather in the evening, all honest working boys, And climb on Paddy Duffy's cart, for no one marred our joys, All seated in the moonlight, laughing in it's rays, I love to talk of old New York, and of my boyish days. Ah, there was Henry Gleason, now a millionaire, Curly Bob and Whitey Hobb, they're living on the air, All merry boyish comrades, recollections bring, All seated there in Duffy's cart, on Summer nights to sing. Oh merry little maidens, so naughty, neat and coy, Asmiling up at Duffy's cart, upon their sweetheart boy, It made a jealous feeling, a quiet piece of chaff, But all in play it died away, and ended with a laugh. Oh, there was Bobby Thompson, he was a chum of mine, Larry Fehr and Sandy Greer, they died in forty-nine, All merry boyish comrades, recollections bring, All seated there on Duffy's cart, on Summer nights to sing.

To all that responded to me about this I want to tell you that a woman from the Butler library answered me and told me that that year there was a yearbook published for the undergraduates that year but not for the School of Law Thank you all for your input. Patricia IN. ________________________________ My great uncle graduated from Columbia University Law school in 1877. Would there have been yearbooks then? If so where would i find them? Patricia ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ -------------------------------

You can find it here: http://www.archive.org/details/1930_census You have to look at it the old way, page by page, not searchable. But it is free. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Sorry, really anyone who may have been to Ireland and knows where to start looking at records. I'm a novice at this. I may have been doing this for over 10 years but most of mine is internet and not sure where to go at brick and morter site. Thanks for any help...Pat

Nancy, I am going to Ireland in May to do family research and need advise. Do you know where would be the best place for doing research in both Northern and Ireland? I know the PRONI has alot of info but is this the best place in Northern Ireland? My family came from Co Tyrone. My husbands family came from Altone and I have no idea where to consider starting there. Any suggestions?? I'll be there for 2-3 weeks. Thanks for any help offered.

What Nancy Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat O'Fallon" <cdro@att.net> To: <NY-IRISH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 10:21 AM Subject: [NY-IRISH] Ireland resources Nancy, I am going to Ireland in May to do family research and need advise. Do you know where would be the best place for doing research in both Northern and Ireland? I know the PRONI has alot of info but is this the best place in Northern Ireland? My family came from Co Tyrone. My husbands family came from Altone and I have no idea where to consider starting there. Any suggestions?? I'll be there for 2-3 weeks. Thanks for any help offered. ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Check the Proni website before going because they are moving and will be closed for months. If your research is for before 1920, you can find most of Northern Ireland records at the National Archives of Ireland and the National Library of Ireland, both in Dublin and easy to get to by bus. What kind of research are you doing? The NLI has RC church records for Northern Ireland. Check this site for the POS number (film number) and the dates available: http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/ If you are looking at tithes, censuses or such, you will find them for all of Ireland at the Archives. Check their site for what they have available: http://www.nationalarchives.ie/ > I am going to Ireland in May to do family research and need advise. Do you > know where would be the best place for doing research in both Northern and > Ireland? I know the PRONI has alot of info but is this the best place in > Northern Ireland? My family came from Co Tyrone. My husbands family came > from Altone and I have no idea where to consider starting there. Any > suggestions?? I'll be there for 2-3 weeks. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Well, folks, this appears to be the week for interesting genealogy and history programs on television. So, stock up on the popcorn, get your Snuggy ready, and ignore those phone calls. The new genealogy series, inspired from Great Britain's hit, "Who Do You Think You Are?" begins this Friday on WNBC-TV, at 8pm EST. I'm almost embarrassed to admit that when in Ireland, we'd plan our daily research and traveling around watching the show. It was a helpful way to learn about Irish resources. Enjoy! Barb NYC Researcher NYIHR, GGG http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/dolley/

Hi Phil. I thought I'd try your 'Lennox' name to see what you meant. I put the name in and also clicked on 'match all terms exactly'. There were only 4 hits...one for a Mary and three for a Nicholas (all the same person). Under 'test books' for Nicholas, it lists his address, occupation and where in Ireland he was from. The writing was a little difficult for me to read. The date of this entry is Dec. 18, 1855. The info on Mary is only an Index and contains nothing but her acct. number. It seems the most info is contained in 'test books'. I don't know if this is of any help at all to you, but I just wanted to pass it on to you. Terry Bora ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Stevens" <bstevens27@verizon.net> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] 1860 Census - Michael Dunn - NYC location question > That Place is a Damn Joke , I put in Lenox /ennox and get 200+ Of Lynch > > ----- Original Message ----- >

Hi Nancy, Before you go into the account, click on shared accounts. Often a person had more than one account, sometimes with a co-account holder's name. In order to attain details about the ancestor, you have to go into the Test Books section. Enlarge the font there. Some account holders do not have details in this section. Barb NYC Researcher NYIHR, GGG nposs1936@verizon.net writes: > I found a distant relative with the account number in the index. Where > or how do you get any more information (if any) ? > Thanks > Nancy >

Hi Terry , Umm , i got nada !!, Try it with the ' real name ' James Lenox " birth date 1783 , Phil BTW >> where did you find the botton 'match all terms exactly' IT WAS NOT ON MY PAGE !!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa Bora" <terrybora@wowway.com> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Lennox-Emigrant Svgs Bk > Hi Phil. I thought I'd try your 'Lennox' name to see what you meant. I > put > the name in and also clicked on 'match all terms exactly'. There were > only > 4 hits...one for a Mary and three for a Nicholas (all the same person). > Under 'test books' for Nicholas, it lists his address, occupation and > where > in Ireland he was from. The writing was a little difficult for me to > read. > The date of this entry is Dec. 18, 1855. The info on Mary is only an > Index > and contains nothing but her acct. number. It seems the most info is > contained in 'test books'. I don't know if this is of any help at all to > you, but I just wanted to pass it on to you. > > Terry Bora > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Stevens" <bstevens27@verizon.net> > To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 9:29 PM > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] 1860 Census - Michael Dunn - NYC location question > > >> That Place is a Damn Joke , I put in Lenox /ennox and get 200+ Of Lynch >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found a distant relative with the account number in the index. Where or how do you get any more information (if any) ? Thanks Nancy > The Emigrant Savings Bank records are an absolute goldmine (though I > haven't > struck personal gold - at least not yet.) The direct link to search > through > them on Ancestry is: http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8760 ________________________________ From: Phil Stevens <bstevens27@verizon.net> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 8:29:31 PM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] 1860 Census - Michael Dunn - NYC location question That Place is a Damn Joke , I put in Lenox /ennox and get 200+ Of Lynch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Cassara" <cassara.genealogy@gmail.com> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] 1860 Census - Michael Dunn - NYC location question > Thanks all - for all of the great suggestions and pointers. I still have > quite a bit of legwork ahead of me - but I'm determined to learn as much > as > possible about this branch of the family, and all of your knowledge has > been > a huge help. > > The Emigrant Savings Bank records are an absolute goldmine (though I > haven't > struck personal gold - at least not yet.) The direct link to search > through > them on Ancestry is: http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8760 > > Additionally, here's an interesting article about the collection: > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library/article.aspx?article=9800 > > > Many thanks, > > Michael Cassara > cassara.genealogy@gmail.com > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dotty, Hm. I had 45 instances come up for Michael Dunn when I searched. So far I haven't ascertained whether any of them could be my great-great-great-grandfather, but they definitely have some in that database. Ancestry's search function can be rather finicky at times, but I've found that searching straight from this link ( http://search.ancestry.com/iexec/Default.aspx?dbid=8760 ) is the cleanest way. Best, Michael Cassara cassara.genealogy@gmail.com On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:45 PM, <DotsterMcManus@aol.com> wrote: > I checked Ancestry, and there is no listing for Michael Dunn at Emigrant > Savings Bank > > Dotty McManus > >

I checked Ancestry, and there is no listing for Michael Dunn at Emigrant Savings Bank Dotty McManus

Thanks all - for all of the great suggestions and pointers. I still have quite a bit of legwork ahead of me - but I'm determined to learn as much as possible about this branch of the family, and all of your knowledge has been a huge help. The Emigrant Savings Bank records are an absolute goldmine (though I haven't struck personal gold - at least not yet.) The direct link to search through them on Ancestry is: http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8760 Additionally, here's an interesting article about the collection: http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library/article.aspx?article=9800 Many thanks, Michael Cassara cassara.genealogy@gmail.com

That Place is a Damn Joke , I put in Lenox /ennox and get 200+ Of Lynch ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Cassara" <cassara.genealogy@gmail.com> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] 1860 Census - Michael Dunn - NYC location question > Thanks all - for all of the great suggestions and pointers. I still have > quite a bit of legwork ahead of me - but I'm determined to learn as much > as > possible about this branch of the family, and all of your knowledge has > been > a huge help. > > The Emigrant Savings Bank records are an absolute goldmine (though I > haven't > struck personal gold - at least not yet.) The direct link to search > through > them on Ancestry is: http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8760 > > Additionally, here's an interesting article about the collection: > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library/article.aspx?article=9800 > > > Many thanks, > > Michael Cassara > cassara.genealogy@gmail.com > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Where does one find a listing of the deposits in the Ebigrant Savings Bank. I would appreciate any help which would point me in the right direction. Kathleeen Donnelly ________________________________ From: jeanine <joyzee_goil@yahoo.com> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 5:42:43 AM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] 1860 Census - Michael Dunn - NYC location question Hi Michael, You could also take a shot at ESB records  (Emigrant Savings Bank).  If you are lucky enough to find he had an acct there it will give you tons of info...My great great great gpa opened one in 1850.  I found from where in Ireland, when, age, parent's names ^ they were dec'd, 2 sisters names & from NYC, brother Patrick from Troy, NY...his wife's name, his kids names etc.  Worth a shot in the least, especially since he was in NYC. Good Luck Jeanine New list member - glad to be here! I've recently discovered that my great-great-great-grandfather, Michael Dunn, was living in NYC in 1860.  He and his wife Ellen (nee Keegan) had married in 1854 in Paterson, NJ, but by 1860 they're listed in NYC in the census.       ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Irish and Scots-Irish genealogy lecture tour The Ulster Historical Foundation announced their Irish and Scots Irish genealogy lecture tour for March 2010. * Philadelphia, PA -- Saturday, March 13th * Lancaster, PA -- Sunday, March 14th * Raleigh, NC -- Monday, March 15th * Naples (Ave Maria University), FL -- Tuesday, March 16th * Lincoln, NE -- Wednesday, March 17th * Bethpage (Long Island), NY -- Saturday March 20th I attended one of these in Portland OR a few years back and enjoyed it tremendously and highly recommend that if you are near where one is held that you try to attend it. You can find out more at: http://www.ancestryireland.com/index.php?id=1027&backPID=1008&tt_news=61 -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

This is a neat site, Jack. I found some Troy stuff there also, not to mention my NYC Smiths! There is a complete NYC 1859 directory at > > _http://www.distantcousin.com/Directories/NY/NYC/1859/_ > (http://www.distantcousin.com/Directories/NY/NYC/1859/) > > Best part is that it is free. If you come across a free site and they have google searches on it, use the google even if you aren't needing it at the time. The site gets paid for your searches and it enables them to keep the site online free. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Michael, For NYC ward boundaries see _http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Ward/1864.Man.html_ (http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Ward/1864.Man.html) Jack Langton