Good thought!! Ann

I'm coming a little late to the discussion of RRRB records -- but those interested in the subject might find RootsWeb's article on the subject helpful -- see http://rwguide.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ for their list of Guides, including the SSDI and RRRB guide. Hope that helps. Claire K seekay@comcast.net On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Sheilaploof1@aol.com wrote: > ...searching railroad records....I ...had no idea where to begin.

St. Mary's Cemetery Middletown Road Waterford 12188 Call Parish (518) 237-9625 Jack try calling the above number and ask. I have been able to get info like that from two catholic cemetaries, one in DC and other in Md. Ted Jack Carr wrote: Does anyone know if there is an on-line listing of: Name, DOB, and DOD for those buried at St. Mary's Cemetary in Waterford NY. Or who could I contact to get cemetary records. St. Mary's Cemetary Middletown Rd. Waterford, NY 12188 Thank You , Jack ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add y our NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: [1]http://www.connorsgenealogy. com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2]NY-IRISH-request@roots web.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the b ody of the message References 1. http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ 2. mailto:NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com

Does anyone know if there is an on-line listing of: Name, DOB, and DOD for those buried at St. Mary's Cemetary in Waterford NY. Or who could I contact to get cemetary records. St. Mary's Cemetary Middletown Rd. Waterford, NY 12188 Thank You , Jack

You're wonderful, Pat. What a great thing you're doing for all of us who are searching so long and hard. Thanks. On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 6:45 PM, Pat Connors <nymets11@pacbell.net> wrote: > I recently downloaded an 1899 report to the English Parliament on the > transportation scheme of Cromwell which moved the Irish to Connaught and > County Clare from the Google Old Books website. Within the report were > over 30 pages of names of those moved in the 1855-59 time period. There > are over 900 names grouped by alpha but not in strict order and, of > course, using old spellings. Much info includes where they moved from > and some have names of their parents, late husbands, children and more. > > I started transcribing the names and I am gradually getting them online > on the Ireland section of my website. So far, I have A and B names > completed and online. In the, Others Mentioned column, however, you > will find surnames starting with other letters of the alphabet (in laws, > maiden names, etc.). > > My goal is to get a letter done and online each day, so keep checking. > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Patricia A. Farrell, Ph.D. How to Be Your Own Therapist www.drfarrell.net 201-676-0478 This email, and any files transmitted with it, is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended addressee, nor authorized to receive for the intended addressee, you are hereby notified that you may not use, copy, disclose or distribute to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received this message in error, please immediately delete the message

I recently downloaded an 1899 report to the English Parliament on the transportation scheme of Cromwell which moved the Irish to Connaught and County Clare from the Google Old Books website. Within the report were over 30 pages of names of those moved in the 1855-59 time period. There are over 900 names grouped by alpha but not in strict order and, of course, using old spellings. Much info includes where they moved from and some have names of their parents, late husbands, children and more. I started transcribing the names and I am gradually getting them online on the Ireland section of my website. So far, I have A and B names completed and online. In the, Others Mentioned column, however, you will find surnames starting with other letters of the alphabet (in laws, maiden names, etc.). My goal is to get a letter done and online each day, so keep checking. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

I am researching our Flood line, the first of whom to come to the United States was my great grandfather, Patrick Flood. I have not located his arrival record, although census and other records state that he was born November 1844 in Ireland and entered the US in 1866. I have reviewed the passenger records at NARA NE, as well as those online at Castle Gardens and Ancestry, to no avail. At the heart of this is handed down family history. My uncle, Rev. Francis X. Flood, S.J., interviewed many family members in the 60's and 70's collecting family data. I have records that he interviewed his 1st cousin Thomas Flood. Thomas told him that he and his father, also Thomas, visited his father's close friend, John F. Dwyer, at the office of the Appraiser of the Port of New York, and that Mr. Dwyer showed them an entry in a book that the Floods (12 of them) had arrived in New York in their own boat. Thomas Flood was not sure of the date, but thought it might have been 1857. Dwyer was also the leader of a Democratic club in Brooklyn's 18th Ward. I have verified that John Dwyer was a close friend of Thomas Flood senior, as he was the executor of his estate, and that Dwyer was appointed Chief of the Bureau of Cancellation of Revenue Stamps (Stamp Deputy) in the Port Collector's office in 1914. This story is well known in the family and it is most probably true, subject to memory such as the date. In all my research I have not found a passenger list of 12 Floods in their own boat - all I find are passenger manifests apparently from commercial vessels. Am I looking in the wrong place? Would a privately owned boat be listed elsewhere? May those that love us, love us; and those that don't love us, may God turn their hearts, and if He doesn't turn their hearts, may He turn their ankles so we'll know them by their limp. Irish Prayer[KPF>] "Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar and fat."- Alex Levine. Kevin Patrick Flood, Esq.[KPF>] http://www.clanflood.org Jacksonville, FL & New York City 904-380-6758 Cell: 904-874-7838 Fax: 800-728-9619 -----Original Message----- From: nybrooklyn-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nybrooklyn-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Garrity Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 11:04 AM To: rhlnj@aol.com Cc: NYBrooklyn@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BKLYN] Cemeteries Lutheran All-Faiths Cemetery in Middle Village, Queens. rhlnj@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know where Norwegian Lutherans would have been buried in 1888-89? They lived in Brooklyn. > > Thank you > > > > > > > rita > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYBROOKLYN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Find her death date and get a cert and hopefully, it will have her maiden name. Also, maybe some of the children's birth certs, marriage certs and/or death certs might reveal the info you are looking for. Edward and Mary Hanlon show up as married in the 1880 Census living in > Cohoes, (Albany County), NY. > Mary's birthdate is abt 1845. I believe that she was born in Ireland > Her Children are: Mary, Margaret, Bridget, Patrick, and Julia. > > Can someone help me find Mary Hanlon's maiden name. > Also looking for a date of death for both Edward and Mary Hanlon. > > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Edward and Mary Hanlon show up as married in the 1880 Census living in Cohoes, (Albany County), NY. Mary's birthdate is abt 1845. I believe that she was born in Ireland Her Children are: Mary, Margaret, Bridget, Patrick, and Julia. Can someone help me find Mary Hanlon's maiden name. Also looking for a date of death for both Edward and Mary Hanlon. Thanks for any assist that you can provide. Jack

Join the U.S. Military and brcome a citizen even if you live in Bahdad, Iraq! "naturalized citizen service members recite the Pledge of Allegiance after being sworn in as U.S. citizens at the Al Faw Palace in Camp Victory, Baghdad.Official Army Photo" "If you are a member of the U.S. Armed Forces and are interested in becoming a U.S. citizen, you may be eligible to apply for citizenship under special provisions provided for in the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA)." "Recent changes in the relevant sections of the INA (Sections 328 and 329) make it easier for qualified military personnel to become U.S. citizens if they choose to file a naturalization application." "In addition, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) has created a stream-lined process specifically for military personnel serving in active-duty status or recently discharged." Eligibility Requirements Normally, a non-citizen wishing to become a United

For the uninformed or misinformed: By Executive Order Number 13269, dated July 3, 2002, President Bush declared that all those persons serving honorably in active-duty status in the Armed Forces of the United States at any time on or after September 11, 2001 until a date to be announced, are eligible to apply for naturalization in accordance with the service during hostilities statutory exception in Section 329 of the INA to the naturalization requirements. This means that individuals with even one day of honorable active duty service can apply for citizenship, regardless of how long they have been a resident. Note: Under this provision, individuals who apply for citizenship after discharge must present a DD Form 214, with service characterized as "Honorable," or "General." Those with other characterizations (including Entry Level Separation), are not eligible. Section 329 of the INA also applies to service-members who served on active duty during World War I, World War II, the Korean Conflict, the Vietnam Conflict, and Operation Desert Shield/Desert Storm. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Hokana" <hokafanti@verizon.net> To: <teduke@embarqmail.com>; <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [NY--date. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 270.12.26/2116 - Release Date: 5/15/09 6:16 AM > >

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Thank you for that information, I missed that, However, eligible to apply for naturalization does NOT make it automatic. Ted [1]tccrane@peoplepc.com wrote: For the uninformed or misinformed: By Executive Order Number 13269, dated July 3, 2002, President Bush declared that all those persons serving honorably in active-duty status in the Armed Forces of the United States at any time on or after September 11, 2001 until a date to be announced, are eligible to apply for naturalization in accordance with the service during hostilities statutory exception in Section 329 of the INA to the naturalization requirements. This means that individuals with even one day of honorable active duty service can apply for citizenship, regardless of how long they have been a resident. Note: Under this provision, individuals who apply for citizenship after discharge must present a DD Form 214, with service characterized as "Honorable," or "General." Those with other characterizations (including Entry Level Separation), are not eligible. Section 329 of the INA also applies to service-members who served on active duty during World War I, World War II, the Korean Conflict, the Vietnam Conflict, and Operation Desert Shield/Desert Storm. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Hokana" [2]<hokafanti@verizon.net> To: [3]<teduke@embarqmail.com>; [4]<ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [NY--date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 270.12.26/2116 - Release Date: 5/15/09 6:16 AM ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add y our NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: [5]http://www.connorsgenealogy. com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [6]NY-IRISH-request@roots web.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the b ody of the message References 1. mailto:tccrane@peoplepc.com 2. mailto:hokafanti@verizon.net 3. mailto:teduke@embarqmail.com 4. mailto:ny-irish@rootsweb.com 5. http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ 6. mailto:NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com

That is not necessarily true. There are certain criteria to be met before a non-citizen who joins the US Military can become a citizen. It is easier but not automatic. At one point in time the rules were the same for persons serving in the military as they were for any other non-citizen. Alaska being a district probably would fall under the same criteria that Washington DC fell under in that timeframe. Washington city is still in a District; the District of Columbia. Gerry -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of robert ryan Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 12:19 PM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-IRISH] Citizenship question Carol, I think that if and when you join the U S Military today's world you automatically become a citizen. You could try contacting any of the Military sources to see if it was true in the time span you are interested in. Google their sites and you might find out more. Bob ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks to Ted for his very thorough answer, and to Bob for his response, too. I had checked current laws about the military bestowing citizenship (they do not) but I had no idea where to look to find out the rules way back then or what the laws were concerning cases like Alaska. By the way, in my post I erroneously entered the year of my gg grandparents wedding in NYC as 1965 when it should have been 1865. I think you sharpies figured it out but I thought I should clarify that they were marriage did not begin a hundred years *after* their children were born! ;-) Thank you, Carol Hokana Boston area researching O'CONNELLs, SULLIVANs, and CALLAGHANs from Co. Cork to NYC (c 1855)

Since St. Patrick's Day is coming up fast (the parade is this Sunday on Staten Island) herewith a couple of lovely old-fashioned Irish songs, first sent to the list eight years ago. Don't know who wrote them, but i'm sure you'll enjoy them. The Babies on Our Block If you want more information, or in need of merriment, Come over with me socially to Murphy's tenement, He owns a row of houses in the first ward near the dock, Where Ireland's represented by the babies on our block. There's the Phelans and the Whelans, from the sweet Doknockadees, They're sitting on the railings with their children on their knees, All gossiping and talking with their neighbors in a flock, Singing "Little Sally Waters" with the babies on our block. On a warm day in the Summer when the breeze blows off the sea, A hundred thousand chil-deren lay on the Battery, They come from Murphy's buildings, oh the noise would stop a clock, Ah, there's no preambulatory with the babies on our block. There's the Clearys and the Learys, from the sweet backwater side, They're laying on the Battery and they're gazing at the tide, All royal blood and normal, all of Dan O'Connell stock, Singing "Little Sally Waters" with the babies on our block. It's good morning to you landlord, and how are you today, When Patrick Murphy Escue-ire comes down the alleyway In a shiny silken beaver, he's as solid as a rock, The envy of the neighbor boys aliving off our block. There's the Brennans and the Gannons, Far Down and Connaught men, Right easy with the shovel and so handy with the pen, All neighborly and friendly, with relations by the flock, Singing "Little Sally Waters" with the babies on our block. This one is in much the same vein: Paddy Duffy's Cart The many happy evenings I spent when but a lad, On Paddy Duffy's lumber cart, quite safe away from dad, It stood down on the corner, near the old lamplight, You'd see a congregation there on every Summer night. Ah, there was Tommy Dobson, now a sena-tore, Jimmy Flynn and Johnny Glynn, ah they were killed in war, All merry boyish comrades, recollections bring, All seated there in Duffy's cart on Summer nights to sing. We'd gather in the evening, all honest working boys, And climb on Paddy Duffy's cart, for no one marred our joys, All seated in the moonlight, laughing in it's rays, I love to talk of old New York, and of my boyish days. Ah, there was Henry Gleason, now a millionaire, Curly Bob and Whitey Hobb, they're living on the air, All merry boyish comrades, recollections bring, All seated there in Duffy's cart, on Summer nights to sing. Oh merry little maidens, so naughty, neat and coy, Asmiling up at Duffy's cart, upon their sweetheart boy, It made a jealous feeling, a quiet piece of chaff, But all in play it died away, and ended with a laugh. Oh, there was Bobby Thompson, he was a chum of mine, Larry Fehr and Sandy Greer, they died in forty-nine, All merry boyish comrades, recollections bring, All seated there on Duffy's cart, on Summer nights to sing.

Carol, --The following site says they would have been citizens if they were there unless they were of the native peoples (who were added in 1915). That corresponds with everything I have ever seen. [1]http://www.akhistorycourse.org/articles/article.php?artID=136 The 1867 Treaty of Cession with the Russians spelled out that the inhabitants of Alaska "with the exception of uncivilized native tribes, shall be admitted to the enjoyment of all the rights, advantages, and immunities of citizens of the United States. . ." --Persons entering the U. S.Military do NOT now become US citizens automatically. [2]http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/f/noncitizen.htm Question: Can a non-U.S. Citizen join the United States Military? Answer: Yes. A non-citizen can enlist in the military. However, federal law prohibits non-citizens from becoming commission or warrant officers. In order for a non-citizen to enlist in the military, he/she must first be a legal immigrant (with a green card), permamently residing in the United States. It's important to note that the military cannot and will not assist in the immigration process. One must immigrate first, using normal immigration quotas and procedures, and -- once they've established an address in the United States -- they can find a recruiter's office and apply for enlistment. hope this helps, Ted Carol Hokana wrote: I'm hoping one of you very experienced and wise genealogists can help me with this. My GG grandparents immigrated separately from Ireland, met in NYC, and married there in 1965. As far as I can tell, neither was a naturalized US citizen. He was in the US Army (enlisted in NYC in 1855), and they got stationed in California where their first child William was born. Then they got transferred to Sitka, Alaska, in the second half of 1867 or 1868 where their next two children were born, Mary and Thomas (in 1869 and 1870, resp). The purchase of Alaska was in 1867. I know that their oldest child William would be a US citizen since he was born on definite US soil--California was already a state in July, 1867--even if his parents weren't citizens. My question: are Mary and Thomas considered US citizens if Alaska wasn't a state or perhaps maybe even the purchase wasn't completed? Would Alaska be considered US soil in 1869 and 1870, ensuring them of US citizenship? At what point in the history of Alaska are people born there considered US citizens if their parents were not? According to one website ([3]http://www.50states.com/statehood.htm), Alaska was a "district" from Oct. 18, 1867, until it became an "organized territory" Aug. 24, 1912. Thank you, Carol Hokana researching O'CONNELLs, SULLIVANs, and CALLAGHANs from Co. Cork to NYC (c 1855) ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add y our NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: [4]http://www.connorsgenealogy. com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5]NY-IRISH-request@roots web.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the b ody of the message References 1. http://www.akhistorycourse.org/articles/article.php?artID=136 2. http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/f/noncitizen.htm 3. http://www.50states.com/statehood.htm 4. http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ 5. mailto:NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com

Carol, I think that if and when you join the U S Military today's world you automatically become a citizen. You could try contacting any of the Military sources to see if it was true in the time span you are interested in. Google their sites and you might find out more. Bob

I got to thinking about who might have written those songs, and it turned out to be Mr. Ed Harrigan (of Harrigan & Hart fame) back in the 1880's. They truly don't write them like that anymore. Jack Langton

I'm hoping one of you very experienced and wise genealogists can help me with this. My GG grandparents immigrated separately from Ireland, met in NYC, and married there in 1965. As far as I can tell, neither was a naturalized US citizen. He was in the US Army (enlisted in NYC in 1855), and they got stationed in California where their first child William was born. Then they got transferred to Sitka, Alaska, in the second half of 1867 or 1868 where their next two children were born, Mary and Thomas (in 1869 and 1870, resp). The purchase of Alaska was in 1867. I know that their oldest child William would be a US citizen since he was born on definite US soil--California was already a state in July, 1867--even if his parents weren't citizens. My question: are Mary and Thomas considered US citizens if Alaska wasn't a state or perhaps maybe even the purchase wasn't completed? Would Alaska be considered US soil in 1869 and 1870, ensuring them of US citizenship? At what point in the history of Alaska are people born there considered US citizens if their parents were not? According to one website (http://www.50states.com/statehood.htm), Alaska was a "district" from Oct. 18, 1867, until it became an "organized territory" Aug. 24, 1912. Thank you, Carol Hokana researching O'CONNELLs, SULLIVANs, and CALLAGHANs from Co. Cork to NYC (c 1855)