On 6/25/2010 10:56 AM, Claire K wrote: > There is no statewide registry of NYS marriages. There is a statewide INDEX (on microfiche) at NARA NY (and other places) which covers upstate (i.e., non- NYC) marriages, but you have to go through it painstakingly (it's been a while since I used them, but I think it's by year, then alphabetical), and the start dates vary. > > GermanGenealogyGroup.com and ItalianGen.org are transcribing the indexes from the NYC Municipal Archives -- so those indexes are only for the five boroughs of NYC, and do not include Long Island. Keep in mind the various dates that the boroughs were annexed to NYC, as records for pre-annexation years will not be found here. > > Your best bet is to try first to figure out in which borough / county the families lived at the time your Gparents married, as it will greatly simplify your search. > > HTH > > Claire K > seekay@comcast.net > > > On Jun 24, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Dr. Farrell wrote: > >> Does anyone know where a central New York State (for all counties) >> registry of marriages from the 1880s might be located? I don't know if > my grandparents were married in NYC, Nassau or Suffolk on Long Island ... > > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > I've got four choices; Manhattan, Brooklyn, Nassau or Suffolk. Lot of work to do there. Part of Suffolk, I think, in the 1880 was in Nassau and the towns shifted their records around, I know. What a Gordian Knot this has turned out to be.

That is basically the only way to get vital records before 1880 in NYS. Use the censuses to find addresses so you can find what church your ancestors attended. The federal censuses didn't list addresses till 1880 so in previous censuses, the wards can help you with area. Don't forget the state censuses which tended to give more info than the federal censuses, like what county in NY a person was born which is a great help. I visited Troy NY and visited the church rectory. Before going, I called and made an appointment and they were very gracious in helping me out and the data I found was invaluable. Since I live in CA, it is sometimes difficult to get back there to collect data. I needed a baptism record from New Rochelle and just called the church and while I was on the phone, the secretary looked it up and confirmed the baptism and then sent me a certificate without any charge. > Do you think any records could be found in church records? I know what > county and possibly the town. I am dealing with a date prior to 1880. > Possibly mid 1870's. > > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

There is no statewide registry of NYS marriages. There is a statewide INDEX (on microfiche) at NARA NY (and other places) which covers upstate (i.e., non- NYC) marriages, but you have to go through it painstakingly (it's been a while since I used them, but I think it's by year, then alphabetical), and the start dates vary. GermanGenealogyGroup.com and ItalianGen.org are transcribing the indexes from the NYC Municipal Archives -- so those indexes are only for the five boroughs of NYC, and do not include Long Island. Keep in mind the various dates that the boroughs were annexed to NYC, as records for pre-annexation years will not be found here. Your best bet is to try first to figure out in which borough / county the families lived at the time your Gparents married, as it will greatly simplify your search. HTH Claire K seekay@comcast.net On Jun 24, 2010, at 7:54 PM, Dr. Farrell wrote: > Does anyone know where a central New York State (for all counties) > registry of marriages from the 1880s might be located? I don't know if my grandparents were married in NYC, Nassau or Suffolk on Long Island ...

Hi everyone, Do you think any records could be found in church records? I know what county and possibly the town. I am dealing with a date prior to 1880. Possibly mid 1870's. Toodles, Ginny in Houston --- drfarrell22@gmail.com wrote: From: "Dr. Farrell" <drfarrell22@gmail.com> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] marriage records Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:54:23 -0400 On 6/25/2010 12:26 PM, Pat Connors wrote: > Some general information: > > New York State did not mandate civil registration for births and marriages > until 1880. Most counties did not fully comply till early 1900s, however. > I have been to Albany a number of times to view the indexes (on microfilm by > year and occasion). Many early records just don't exist for the first 10-20 > years. The indexes are not on line anywhere. But they are in a few places > in the state, like Buffalo and NYC, check the state's archives website for > full info. > http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/research/res_topics_gen_vitalstats.shtml > > The NYS records, however, didn't include NYC and some towns like Yonkers, > Albany and Buffalo aren't included in the early records before 1914, again > check the NYS Health Dept website. > http://www.nyhealth.gov/vital_records/genealogy.htm > > New York City, Manhattan registration for births and marriage started in > 1847 and deaths in 1795, for Brooklyn 1866 for births and marriages, deaths > 1847, for Bronx, Queens and Staten Island most records start in 1898. These > dates vary and have gaps, check the archives website for more exact dates. > > > Does anyone know where a central New York State (for all counties) >> registry of marriages from the 1880s might be located? I don't know if >> my grandparents were married in NYC, Nassau or Suffolk on Long Island >> and I need this certificate. >> >> Have you tried the indexes at http://www.germangenealogygroup.com ? Very >> useful! >> >> > Thanks. ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some general information: New York State did not mandate civil registration for births and marriages until 1880. Most counties did not fully comply till early 1900s, however. I have been to Albany a number of times to view the indexes (on microfilm by year and occasion). Many early records just don't exist for the first 10-20 years. The indexes are not on line anywhere. But they are in a few places in the state, like Buffalo and NYC, check the state's archives website for full info. http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/research/res_topics_gen_vitalstats.shtml The NYS records, however, didn't include NYC and some towns like Yonkers, Albany and Buffalo aren't included in the early records before 1914, again check the NYS Health Dept website. http://www.nyhealth.gov/vital_records/genealogy.htm New York City, Manhattan registration for births and marriage started in 1847 and deaths in 1795, for Brooklyn 1866 for births and marriages, deaths 1847, for Bronx, Queens and Staten Island most records start in 1898. These dates vary and have gaps, check the archives website for more exact dates. Does anyone know where a central New York State (for all counties) > registry of marriages from the 1880s might be located? I don't know if > my grandparents were married in NYC, Nassau or Suffolk on Long Island > and I need this certificate. > > Have you tried the indexes at http://www.germangenealogygroup.com ? Very > useful! > > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

On 6/25/2010 7:54 AM, Anna Caulfield wrote: > somebody asked: >> > Does anyone know where a central New York State (for all counties) > registry of marriages from the 1880s might be located? I don't know if > my grandparents were married in NYC, Nassau or Suffolk on Long Island > and I need this certificate. > > Have you tried the indexes at http://www.germangenealogygroup.com ? Very useful! > > > Anna Caulfield > > > > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > I've tried just about everywhere, but I'll search this one, too.

somebody asked: >    Does anyone know where a central New York State (for all counties) registry of marriages from the 1880s might be located?  I don't know if my grandparents were married in NYC, Nassau or Suffolk on Long Island and I need this certificate.   Have you tried the indexes at http://www.germangenealogygroup.com  ?  Very useful! Anna Caulfield

On 6/24/2010 7:21 PM, Sandra J Hawley wrote: > If you haven't already, try birth, marriage or death certificates for > their children. For my family (gg grandparents), on one of their > children's death certificates in WI, it told where the parents were born > in Ireland. We had already known Co Tipperary, but this verified a > specific location that gave specific places to look. Then I found > baptismal records for 11 out of their 13 grandchildren - all because of > what it said on this child's death certificate. > > On 6/17/2010 6:22 AM, Anna Caulfield wrote: > >> Pat, I have her death certificate. That's where I got her parents' names. but for place of birth it just says "Ireland." >> >> Anna Caulfield >> >> >> >> --- On Thu, 6/17/10, Pat O'Fallon<cdro@att.net> wrote: >> >> >> From: Pat O'Fallon<cdro@att.net> >> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Taggarts >> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com >> Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 9:03 AM >> >> >> Anna, >> I think I have run across those names in Ireland. Do you have any idea which part? If you have the marriage, birth or dead certificates it should tell you at least the county. Pat >> >> --- On Thu, 6/17/10, Anna Caulfield<acaulfield182@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> From: Anna Caulfield<acaulfield182@yahoo.com> >> Subject: [NY-IRISH] Taggarts >> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com >> Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 7:56 AM >> >> >> Pat, I have Taggarts that I'm trying to trace. I know it's a fairly common name. All I know is my ggm, Mary Taggart, was born in Ireland about 1842, parents: John Taggart and Bridget Quinn., came to NY around 1860, married John McNulty about 1871, lived in Brooklyn. For the longest time I thought a John and Bridget Taggart who lived in Manhattan were her parents but then found out they're not. >> Anna Caulfield >> >> >> >> --- On Wed, 6/16/10, Pat O'Fallon<cdro@att.net> wrote: >> >> >> From: Pat O'Fallon<cdro@att.net> >> Subject: [NY-IRISH] Scotland/Ireland departures/arrivals list >> To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com >> Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 5:38 PM >> >> >> Thanks all for the help. What I am trying to find is when my Taggart side of the family came to Ireland from Scotland. I was told to look at the departures/arrivals from Glasgow to Londonderry. I can trace back to 1833 Upper Cumber, Londonderry when my gggrandparents got married. But this is as far as I can go without knowing which/when the Taggarts came to Ireland. It was a long shot but guess there's no record of this. Thanks again, Pat >> ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== >> Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== >> Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== >> Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== >> Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Does anyone know where a central New York State (for all counties) registry of marriages from the 1880s might be located? I don't know if my grandparents were married in NYC, Nassau or Suffolk on Long Island and I need this certificate. Thanks for any help.

If you haven't already, try birth, marriage or death certificates for their children. For my family (gg grandparents), on one of their children's death certificates in WI, it told where the parents were born in Ireland. We had already known Co Tipperary, but this verified a specific location that gave specific places to look. Then I found baptismal records for 11 out of their 13 grandchildren - all because of what it said on this child's death certificate. On 6/17/2010 6:22 AM, Anna Caulfield wrote: > Pat, I have her death certificate. That's where I got her parents' names. but for place of birth it just says "Ireland." > > Anna Caulfield > > > > --- On Thu, 6/17/10, Pat O'Fallon<cdro@att.net> wrote: > > > From: Pat O'Fallon<cdro@att.net> > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Taggarts > To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 9:03 AM > > > Anna, > I think I have run across those names in Ireland. Do you have any idea which part? If you have the marriage, birth or dead certificates it should tell you at least the county. Pat > > --- On Thu, 6/17/10, Anna Caulfield<acaulfield182@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > From: Anna Caulfield<acaulfield182@yahoo.com> > Subject: [NY-IRISH] Taggarts > To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 7:56 AM > > > Pat, I have Taggarts that I'm trying to trace. I know it's a fairly common name. All I know is my ggm, Mary Taggart, was born in Ireland about 1842, parents: John Taggart and Bridget Quinn., came to NY around 1860, married John McNulty about 1871, lived in Brooklyn. For the longest time I thought a John and Bridget Taggart who lived in Manhattan were her parents but then found out they're not. > Anna Caulfield > > > > --- On Wed, 6/16/10, Pat O'Fallon<cdro@att.net> wrote: > > > From: Pat O'Fallon<cdro@att.net> > Subject: [NY-IRISH] Scotland/Ireland departures/arrivals list > To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 5:38 PM > > > Thanks all for the help. What I am trying to find is when my Taggart side of the family came to Ireland from Scotland. I was told to look at the departures/arrivals from Glasgow to Londonderry. I can trace back to 1833 Upper Cumber, Londonderry when my gggrandparents got married. But this is as far as I can go without knowing which/when the Taggarts came to Ireland. It was a long shot but guess there's no record of this. Thanks again, Pat > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

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Pat, I have her death certificate. That's where I got her parents' names.  but for place of birth it just says "Ireland." Anna Caulfield --- On Thu, 6/17/10, Pat O'Fallon <cdro@att.net> wrote: From: Pat O'Fallon <cdro@att.net> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Taggarts To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 9:03 AM Anna, I think I have run across those names in Ireland. Do you have any idea which part? If you have the marriage, birth or dead certificates it should tell you at least the county. Pat --- On Thu, 6/17/10, Anna Caulfield <acaulfield182@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Anna Caulfield <acaulfield182@yahoo.com> Subject: [NY-IRISH] Taggarts To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 7:56 AM Pat, I have Taggarts that I'm trying to trace.  I know it's a fairly common name.  All I know is my ggm, Mary Taggart, was born in Ireland about 1842, parents: John Taggart and Bridget Quinn., came to NY around 1860, married John McNulty about 1871, lived in Brooklyn.  For the longest time I thought a John and Bridget Taggart who lived in Manhattan were her parents but then found out they're not. Anna Caulfield --- On Wed, 6/16/10, Pat O'Fallon <cdro@att.net> wrote: From: Pat O'Fallon <cdro@att.net> Subject: [NY-IRISH] Scotland/Ireland departures/arrivals list To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 5:38 PM Thanks all for the help. What I am trying to find is when my Taggart side of the family came to Ireland from Scotland. I was told to look at the departures/arrivals from Glasgow to Londonderry. I can trace back to 1833 Upper Cumber, Londonderry when my gggrandparents got married. But this is as far as I can go without knowing which/when the Taggarts came to Ireland. It was a long shot but guess there's no record of this. Thanks again,  Pat ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Anna, I think I have run across those names in Ireland. Do you have any idea which part? If you have the marriage, birth or dead certificates it should tell you at least the county. Pat --- On Thu, 6/17/10, Anna Caulfield <acaulfield182@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Anna Caulfield <acaulfield182@yahoo.com> Subject: [NY-IRISH] Taggarts To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 7:56 AM Pat, I have Taggarts that I'm trying to trace.  I know it's a fairly common name.  All I know is my ggm, Mary Taggart, was born in Ireland about 1842, parents: John Taggart and Bridget Quinn., came to NY around 1860, married John McNulty about 1871, lived in Brooklyn.  For the longest time I thought a John and Bridget Taggart who lived in Manhattan were her parents but then found out they're not. Anna Caulfield --- On Wed, 6/16/10, Pat O'Fallon <cdro@att.net> wrote: From: Pat O'Fallon <cdro@att.net> Subject: [NY-IRISH] Scotland/Ireland departures/arrivals list To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 5:38 PM Thanks all for the help. What I am trying to find is when my Taggart side of the family came to Ireland from Scotland. I was told to look at the departures/arrivals from Glasgow to Londonderry. I can trace back to 1833 Upper Cumber, Londonderry when my gggrandparents got married. But this is as far as I can go without knowing which/when the Taggarts came to Ireland. It was a long shot but guess there's no record of this. Thanks again,  Pat ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pat, I have Taggarts that I'm trying to trace.  I know it's a fairly common name.  All I know is my ggm, Mary Taggart, was born in Ireland about 1842, parents: John Taggart and Bridget Quinn., came to NY around 1860, married John McNulty about 1871, lived in Brooklyn.  For the longest time I thought a John and Bridget Taggart who lived in Manhattan were her parents but then found out they're not. Anna Caulfield --- On Wed, 6/16/10, Pat O'Fallon <cdro@att.net> wrote: From: Pat O'Fallon <cdro@att.net> Subject: [NY-IRISH] Scotland/Ireland departures/arrivals list To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 5:38 PM Thanks all for the help. What I am trying to find is when my Taggart side of the family came to Ireland from Scotland. I was told to look at the departures/arrivals from Glasgow to Londonderry. I can trace back to 1833 Upper Cumber, Londonderry when my gggrandparents got married. But this is as far as I can go without knowing which/when the Taggarts came to Ireland. It was a long shot but guess there's no record of this. Thanks again,  Pat ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pat, There were no passenger records kept for crossing from Ireland to Glasgow. Anne - Edinburgh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat O'Fallon" <cdro@att.net> To: <ny-irish-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 8:01 PM Subject: [NY-IRISH] Scotland/Ireland Ports > Does anyone know where to find, on the internet, passenger lists from Co > Derry Ireland and Glascoe Scotland? I am looking for both arrivals and > departures. Thanks > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.437 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2941 - Release Date: 06/16/10 06:35:00

Claire's answer is excellent but you may want to add the Canadian records to your search. I have seen a bunch of Irish, particularly from the western and northern ports entering North America via the St Lawrence River. The Brits were trying to populate Canada by encouraging people to make the voyage. The south shore of the St Lawrence and Lake Ontario & Erie is NY State for a significant distance. Some of those headed south in staed of staying in Canada. John -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Claire K Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 4:49 PM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Cc: ny-irish-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Scotland/Ireland Ports Glasgow and Derry have been, in recent years (20th century? also late 19th?), one of multiple departure ports on a particular sailing -- e.g., a ship might board passengers at Glasgow, Liverpool, and Cork, and then arrive in, e.g., NYC. If you're looking for a ship that came into either NYC or other Atlantic coast US ports (including smaller ports in NYS), you would find them on the relevant NARA films (available at NARA or from the LDS), Ancestry databases, ISTG lists, etc. -- it doesn't matter where they left from, the US lists are arranged by where they arrived. As for ships leaving NYC or NYS for Derry and Glasgow, presumably any lists that survive would be in Ireland or Scotland, assuming those were the final destinations. As far as I know, the only passenger lists for the UK that are online are the English lists on findmypast. But keep in mind that, in the early days (up to early/mid 19th century?? certainly during the Great Famine), there were few passenger ships going TO Ireland -- the ships that brought immigrants to the US were usually cargo ships that had brought goods on the US-Europe leg. Maybe someone can give you a clearer answer if you let us know what time period you're interested in? No doubt someone can correct me on the various dates / multi-stop procedures. I know I've seen multiple embarkation ports on an arrival manifest; I'm not so sure I've seen multiple arrival ports and, if multiple stops on arrival did happen, whether the lists would have stayed with the ship (and so be at the final port) or would have been broken out at each port. Hope that helps a bit... Claire K. On Jun 16, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Pat O'Fallon wrote: > Does anyone know where to find, on the internet, passenger lists from Co Derry Ireland and Glascoe Scotland? I am looking for both arrivals and departures. Thanks ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Glasgow and Derry have been, in recent years (20th century? also late 19th?), one of multiple departure ports on a particular sailing -- e.g., a ship might board passengers at Glasgow, Liverpool, and Cork, and then arrive in, e.g., NYC. If you're looking for a ship that came into either NYC or other Atlantic coast US ports (including smaller ports in NYS), you would find them on the relevant NARA films (available at NARA or from the LDS), Ancestry databases, ISTG lists, etc. -- it doesn't matter where they left from, the US lists are arranged by where they arrived. As for ships leaving NYC or NYS for Derry and Glasgow, presumably any lists that survive would be in Ireland or Scotland, assuming those were the final destinations. As far as I know, the only passenger lists for the UK that are online are the English lists on findmypast. But keep in mind that, in the early days (up to early/mid 19th century?? certainly during the Great Famine), there were few passenger ships going TO Ireland -- the ships that brought immigrants to the US were usually cargo ships that had brought goods on the US-Europe leg. Maybe someone can give you a clearer answer if you let us know what time period you're interested in? No doubt someone can correct me on the various dates / multi-stop procedures. I know I've seen multiple embarkation ports on an arrival manifest; I'm not so sure I've seen multiple arrival ports and, if multiple stops on arrival did happen, whether the lists would have stayed with the ship (and so be at the final port) or would have been broken out at each port. Hope that helps a bit... Claire K. On Jun 16, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Pat O'Fallon wrote: > Does anyone know where to find, on the internet, passenger lists from Co Derry Ireland and Glascoe Scotland? I am looking for both arrivals and departures. Thanks

Thanks all for the help. What I am trying to find is when my Taggart side of the family came to Ireland from Scotland. I was told to look at the departures/arrivals from Glasgow to Londonderry. I can trace back to 1833 Upper Cumber, Londonderry when my gggrandparents got married. But this is as far as I can go without knowing which/when the Taggarts came to Ireland. It was a long shot but guess there's no record of this. Thanks again,  Pat

Does anyone know where to find, on the internet, passenger lists from Co Derry Ireland and Glascoe Scotland? I am looking for both arrivals and departures. Thanks

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