Kevin, Yes, the parents names should be on the document. The beauty of a marriage certificate is that the information is typically reported by the individuals themselves so the likelihood of errors is reduced. Lynn

Kevin, I found the marriage of Patrick McArdle to Margaret McCauran in the Grooms Index at www.germangenealogygroup.com (Note: this website is not solely devoted to German genealogy) Go to "Databases" then to "Vital Records Databases" and finally to "New York City Grooms Index" The pertinent record is certificate # 784 - 20 Apr 1917 in Queens Co. NY. There is a link to a printable form to request a copy of the certificate from the Municipal Archives in New York City. I have used this method to get copies myself and it is very reliable and efficient. Good luck, Lynn Carey Grice

Jack, Since you have their death dates you might try the Fulton History site. He has many newspapers from upstate NY town available for browsing. _http://www.fultonhistory.com/_ (http://www.fultonhistory.com/) Jack Langton

I am searching for where my great grandparents John Callahan and Rose (Murphy) Callahan are buried -and birth and death dates for both. I have Census records for 1880, 1900, and 1910 which show John and Rose Callahan and their children living in Cohoes NY. John and Rose were born between 1844 and 1847. John was born in NY State and Rose was born in Ireland. I checked with Calvary and St. Agnes Cemeteries of Cohoes and St. Mary's Cemetery of Waterford NY and did not find them. Can anyone help Where would I look next? Much Thanks, Jack Carr

Thanks so much! These folks are buried right next to my Quigg relatives so I'm hopeful that there's a connection. Kathy > Mary A Quigg died 1/21/33: Kings death certificate #2103 age 62: in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Monday, 23 Jan 1933 obituaries: "QUIGG--MARY A QUIGG (nee McNally) on January 21, 1933, the beloved wife of William J Quigg and mother of Mae, William J, Matthew A, and Edward A; sister of Kitty McNally. Funeral from her residence, 1068 Myrtle Ave., on Tuesday, Jan. 24. Requiem Mass at St. John the Baptist RC Church at 9:30 AM. Interment at Holy Cross Cemetery." > > William J Quigg died 4/8/33: Kings death certificate #8202 age 64: in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Sunday, 9 Apr 1933 obituaries: "QUIGG--On Saturday, April 8 at his residence, 1068 Myrtle Ave., WILLIAM J QUIGG Sr., beloved husband of the late Mary A Quigg. Notice of funeral later." I have not had luck as I try to pull up a later date funeral notice... > > I found the death certificate info at italiangen.org and the obituaries at fultonhistory.com > > In the 1920 census, at 1068 Myrtle Ave., both are listed as born in NY to parents who were born in Ireland. William is a sizer of gents hats. In the 1900 census, they live at 492 Marcy Ave; William's birth details are given as Sept 1864 and Mary's are July 1866. Their oldest three children, Mary, William, and Matthew, are ages 6, 3, and 2 in the 1900 census. > > I hope something here is helpful! > > Cathy > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the NY-IRISH list administrator, send an email to > NY-IRISH-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the NY-IRISH mailing list, send an email to NY-IRISH@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of NY-IRISH Digest, Vol 5, Issue 175 > ****************************************

--- On Wed, 11/17/10, Kathy <ancestree@verizon.net> wrote: In Holy Cross Cemetery near my family grave we found Mary A Quigg died 1/21/33: Kings death certificate #2103 age 62: in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Monday, 23 Jan 1933 obituaries: "QUIGG--MARY A QUIGG (nee McNally) on January 21, 1933, the beloved wife of William J Quigg and mother of Mae, William J, Matthew A, and Edward A; sister of Kitty McNally. Funeral from her residence, 1068 Myrtle Ave., on Tuesday, Jan. 24. Requiem Mass at St. John the Baptist RC Church at 9:30 AM. Interment at Holy Cross Cemetery." William J Quigg died 4/8/33: Kings death certificate #8202 age 64: in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, Sunday, 9 Apr 1933 obituaries: "QUIGG--On Saturday, April 8 at his residence, 1068 Myrtle Ave., WILLIAM J QUIGG Sr., beloved husband of the late Mary A Quigg. Notice of funeral later." I have not had luck as I try to pull up a later date funeral notice... I found the death certificate info at italiangen.org and the obituaries at fultonhistory.com In the 1920 census, at 1068 Myrtle Ave., both are listed as born in NY to parents who were born in Ireland. William is a sizer of gents hats. In the 1900 census, they live at 492 Marcy Ave; William's birth details are given as Sept 1864 and Mary's are July 1866. Their oldest three children, Mary, William, and Matthew, are ages 6, 3, and 2 in the 1900 census. I hope something here is helpful! Cathy

In Holy Cross Cemetery near my family grave we found Mary A Quigg died 1/21/33 and William J Quigg died 4/8/33. Does anyone know these folks? Kathy

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Kathleen, this site should help you. This is for the Boroughs only. http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/home.shtml Terry Bora ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Donnelly" <thefalls46@yahoo.com> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 6:40 PM Subject: [NY-IRISH] Death records in Queens NY Gentlepeople I know this is not alluded to general geneology. But can anyone tell me where I can send for death certificate for a deceased person. I need the death certificate. Thank you in advance. Kathleen

Thank you so much, Terry, for sending an email to the list that didn't have all those signatures. Your email to the list was perfectly edited. Kathleen, this site should help you. This is for the Boroughs only. > > http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/home.shtml > > Terry Bora > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathleen Donnelly" <thefalls46@yahoo.com> > To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 6:40 PM > Subject: [NY-IRISH] Death records in Queens NY > > > Gentlepeople I know this is not alluded to general geneology. But can > anyone > tell me where I can send for death certificate for a deceased person. I > need > the death certificate. Thank you in advance. Kathleen > > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, list admin http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Kathleen, this has very much to do with genealogy. Where did the person die? Gentlepeople I know this is not alluded to general geneology. But can anyone > tell me where I can send for death certificate for a deceased person. I need > the death certificate. Thank you in advance. Kathleen > > PS: I am biting my tongue! You sent your message with the ADMIN MSG attached. The one asking everyone to delete those copied signatures and posts that don't pertain to your message. Maybe you should read it again. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, list admin http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Thanks...Mary Ann In a message dated 11/8/2010 11:44:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, kpaton@optonline.net writes: Mary Ann, If you go to the Brooklyn Genealogy Page at http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ you will find information and links about Brooklyn. I lived in Flatlands a long time ago. It was a Dutch town established sometime in the 1600s. It didn't become part of Brooklyn until the second half of the 1890s, so doesn't always appear on Brooklyn directories, etc. It is near Bergen Beach, Flatbush, Mill Basin. A map at http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Map/Bklyn.Neighborhood.html clearly shows the neighborhoods of Brooklyn that will help you find it on other maps that show streets. Some of the street names are Flatlands Ave, Avenues L, M & N, numbered streets beginning with "East", particularly above the East 40s. Do you have them or their sons on any censuses or know the dates of death of any of them? Have you tried the FamilySearch.org site? They have the 1865 census for Flatlands. Near the end of the New York, Kings section, Flatlands is a choice. It contains 37 images and you can't search, but would have to browse each page. http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#w=0&p=waypoint&s=waypo intsOnly&c=fs%3A1491284 The Brooklyn Genealogy Page has, under Worship, a large section about Catholic churches, their locations and dates of establishment. I don't know of any in that area that existed in the 1870s, but one possibility is "Holy Family [1871] - Flatlands & E. 98th {off map - Canarsie} (the Diocese indicates this church opened in 1883)". Churches that opened later were Mary Queen of Heaven (1927) and St Thomas Aquinas (1884). Kathleen ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gentlepeople I know this is not alluded to general geneology. But can anyone tell me where I can send for death certificate for a deceased person. I need the death certificate. Thank you in advance. Kathleen --- On Tue, 11/9/10, Pat Connors <nymets22@gmail.com> wrote: From: Pat Connors <nymets22@gmail.com> Subject: [NY-IRISH] ADMIN MESSAGE: please read To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 9:56 AM Please, please, please, please... When replying to a message posted to the list and your mail program automatically copies the original post, please edit it before sending to the list. Please get rid of all of these: > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, > > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Those on the digest format have a hard time finding the message with all these repeated signature files.  If you want to get your post read, remember to delete these.  Thanks for your cooperation. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, list admin http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ray, Let me put in a plug for Holy Cross church at 329 W 42nd St., across from the NYC Port Authority bus depot. Still going strong, it is the oldest building on 42nd St. from the East River to the Hudson. One of it's pastors was Fr. Duffy, of Fighting 69th fame, there is a plaque on the outside wall commemorating him. A bit of a walk from 26th St., but things were different then. Jack Langton

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I was born at 33rd St. between 9th and 10th Avenue. The Catholic Church was St. Michael's. Theresa On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:51 PM, <CasperVeth@aol.com> wrote: > Thanks. So that means my great grandfather lived in Hell's Kitchen if was > listed as living on 26th street. Does anyone know of a Catholic Church in > that area where they may have attended. The Surname is Latimer. > > Ray Veth, Middletown, NJ > > > In a message dated 11/8/2010 8:31:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jerrykelly@att.net writes: > > West Side to the river. Low 20s up to the 60s or so. The politicians > didn't > like the name "Hell's Kitchen" so they tried to replace it with > "Chelsea." > > Best, > Gearóid / Jerry > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "CasperVeth@aol.com" <CasperVeth@aol.com> > To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 6:20:08 PM > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Midway Borough in New York City? > > Where would the Hell's Kitchen section be located in Manhattan? > > > In a message dated 11/8/2010 2:08:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > nymets22@gmail.com writes: > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nynewyo2/neighborhoods/ > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add > your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

We're from Chelsea. My brother walked to Guardian Angel Elementary way over on 10th I think. It was around 21st where we lived, but we lived between 7th and 8th. MANY churches around. We also went to another more towards Gramercy. -----Original Message----- From: jerrykelly@att.net Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:05 PM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Hell's Kitchen - nearby Catholic church?? Claire's information is accurate. I mis-remembered. Le gach dea-ghuí / Best, Gearóid / Jerry -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Claire K Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:21 PM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Hell's Kitchen - nearby Catholic church?? Actually, Hell's Kitchen is a little north of 26th. I'd say the boundaries aren't definite, but Wikipedia says 34th to 59th, between 8th and the Hudson River. Chelsea is a different area, south of Hell's Kitchen -- Hell's Kitchen is a/k/a Clinton, not Chelsea. I was living in NYC when the realtors started trying to get people to use "Clinton" as the name and put out neighborhood maps showing "Clinton." NYers scoffed. 26th St. is Chelsea. St. Francis of Assisi is on W. 31 St., founded 1844; see http://www.stfrancisnyc.org/ . I can't swear that this is the right parish, but if not, they should be able to direct you to the current parish that covers your address, and that parish may be able to tell you when they were founded and what their mother parish was, if it was founded after the date you're interested in. HTH Claire K. On Nov 8, 2010, at 8:51 PM, CasperVeth@aol.com wrote: > Thanks. So that means my great grandfather lived in Hell's Kitchen if > was listed as living on 26th street. Does anyone know of a Catholic Church in > that area where they may have attended. The Surname is Latimer. > > Ray Veth, Middletown, NJ > > > In a message dated 11/8/2010 8:31:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jerrykelly@att.net writes: > > West Side to the river. Low 20s up to the 60s or so. The politicians > didn't > like the name "Hell's Kitchen" so they tried to replace it with "Chelsea." > ... > > ________________________________ > From: "CasperVeth@aol.com" <CasperVeth@aol.com> ... > Where would the Hell's Kitchen section be located in Manhattan? > > > In a message dated 11/8/2010 2:08:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > nymets22@gmail.com writes: > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nynewyo2/neighborhoods/ ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mary Ann, If you go to the Brooklyn Genealogy Page at http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/ you will find information and links about Brooklyn. I lived in Flatlands a long time ago. It was a Dutch town established sometime in the 1600s. It didn't become part of Brooklyn until the second half of the 1890s, so doesn't always appear on Brooklyn directories, etc. It is near Bergen Beach, Flatbush, Mill Basin. A map at http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/Map/Bklyn.Neighborhood.html clearly shows the neighborhoods of Brooklyn that will help you find it on other maps that show streets. Some of the street names are Flatlands Ave, Avenues L, M & N, numbered streets beginning with "East", particularly above the East 40s. Do you have them or their sons on any censuses or know the dates of death of any of them? Have you tried the FamilySearch.org site? They have the 1865 census for Flatlands. Near the end of the New York, Kings section, Flatlands is a choice. It contains 37 images and you can't search, but would have to browse each page. http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#w=0&p=waypoint&s=waypo intsOnly&c=fs%3A1491284 The Brooklyn Genealogy Page has, under Worship, a large section about Catholic churches, their locations and dates of establishment. I don't know of any in that area that existed in the 1870s, but one possibility is "Holy Family [1871] - Flatlands & E. 98th {off map - Canarsie} (the Diocese indicates this church opened in 1883)". Churches that opened later were Mary Queen of Heaven (1927) and St Thomas Aquinas (1884). Kathleen -----Original Message----- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 10:31:34 -0500 (EST) From: MAS13751@aol.com Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] NYC Irish Neighborhoods in the 1800's To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <13d15.694124f8.3a0971d6@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Jackie, since you live in Brooklyn maybe you can help me with my search. My great grandfather Michael McMahon lived in "The Flatlands" in 1865. He married a Mary Sullivan and had 2 sons in NYC - Thomas & John - born between 1868 & 1875. They were Catholic so I've been trying to locate church marriage or baptismal records but don't know which churches may have been in that area at that time. Would you happen to know? If not the churches, which streets comprised "the Flatlands"? Thanks for any help...Mary Ann In a message dated 11/8/2010 9:13:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, Kiskatomcreek@aol.com writes:

Claire's information is accurate. I mis-remembered. Le gach dea-ghuí / Best, Gearóid / Jerry -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Claire K Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 10:21 PM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Hell's Kitchen - nearby Catholic church?? Actually, Hell's Kitchen is a little north of 26th. I'd say the boundaries aren't definite, but Wikipedia says 34th to 59th, between 8th and the Hudson River. Chelsea is a different area, south of Hell's Kitchen -- Hell's Kitchen is a/k/a Clinton, not Chelsea. I was living in NYC when the realtors started trying to get people to use "Clinton" as the name and put out neighborhood maps showing "Clinton." NYers scoffed. 26th St. is Chelsea. St. Francis of Assisi is on W. 31 St., founded 1844; see http://www.stfrancisnyc.org/ . I can't swear that this is the right parish, but if not, they should be able to direct you to the current parish that covers your address, and that parish may be able to tell you when they were founded and what their mother parish was, if it was founded after the date you're interested in. HTH Claire K. On Nov 8, 2010, at 8:51 PM, CasperVeth@aol.com wrote: > Thanks. So that means my great grandfather lived in Hell's Kitchen if > was listed as living on 26th street. Does anyone know of a Catholic Church in > that area where they may have attended. The Surname is Latimer. > > Ray Veth, Middletown, NJ > > > In a message dated 11/8/2010 8:31:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > jerrykelly@att.net writes: > > West Side to the river. Low 20s up to the 60s or so. The politicians > didn't > like the name "Hell's Kitchen" so they tried to replace it with "Chelsea." > ... > > ________________________________ > From: "CasperVeth@aol.com" <CasperVeth@aol.com> ... > Where would the Hell's Kitchen section be located in Manhattan? > > > In a message dated 11/8/2010 2:08:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > nymets22@gmail.com writes: > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nynewyo2/neighborhoods/ ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message