I just received a newsletter about new additions to the search engine that you may be interested in. They have added more genealogy websites to their search engine this week. You can now search for ancestors listed on the Irish 1901 and the 1911 census using our search engine. We have also added the following state archive genealogy records: Alabama; Arizona; Arkansas; Maine; Missouri; South Carolina; Tennessee; Texas; Utah; Virginia; Washington and Wisconsin. When posted to the Rootsweb mailing list, this link may get cut so you will have to copy both parts and paste to get it to work correctly. http://www.genealogyintime.com/GenealogyResources/Tools/advanced_genealogy_search_engine.html -- Pat Connors, Sacramento, CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

I just uploaded the Manulla Civil Parish tithe applotments to the County Mayo section of my website. Read my transcription notes to see the problems I encountered trying to transcribe this parish. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

I have added the following tithe applotments to the various Irish counties on my website: County Kilkenny-Mallardstown Civil Parish County Galway-Duniry Civil Parish, Tynagh Civil Parish County Tipperary-Twomileborris Civil Parish, Magorban Civil Parish, Magowry Civil Parish Coming soon: County Mayo-Manulla Civil Parish County Monaghan-Magheross Civil Parish -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Hello All, You have been a great help.......I like to help at the Irish end and I have passed on all of your advice to my friend in the States.   I've advised she join this list as I'm sure she can gain useful advice etc.   I'll unsubscribe now and once again many thanks.   Slán, Kevin.

Don't worry about me Pat....... there's more sources than just on line.   Slán, Kevin.   --- On Mon, 22/11/10, Pat Connors <nymets22@gmail.com> wrote: From: Pat Connors <nymets22@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] McArdle Brooklyn To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, 22 November, 2010, 17:04 Have you tried the County Clare Library website? http://www.clarelibrary.ie/ It is totally free and has all of County Clare's Griffith Valuation and Tithe Applotments plus much more.  Now there is a project to transcribe all the County Clare's RC records which is also in coordination with the library.  Some parishes are done and online.   I am sure you can find more online than you think.  You can't expect Kevin to do the research you need, especially when he would have to use the same resources that are found at the library, which you can research for free online. Kevin, I really don't have any records from County Clare.  I know what  you > mean about the McMahon name being common...thought the O'Keefe  might help > but that's probably very common also.  It took me 20 years  to find out he > was from Clare. (He seemed to change his birth year a  lot.)  The NY > Emigrants Savings Bank Records indicate he arrived in  1864 on the ship > Antartic. > Haven't been able to locate the  Antartic manifest on-line to see if other > family member were with him or  not.  Guess it's like finding a needle in a > haystack...thanks, Mary  Ann > > > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Terry, thats most helpful.   Thanks for taking the time to e mail.   Slán, Kevin. --- On Mon, 22/11/10, Terry Bora <terrybora@wowway.com> wrote: From: Terry Bora <terrybora@wowway.com> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] McArdle Brooklyn (marriage date discrepancy) To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, 22 November, 2010, 16:59 Hello Kevin.  I wanted to tell you a few things about these records because I know you have a discrepancy in the marriage dates.  I'm not sure how the German Gen. group volunteers get their information, but I've done transcriptions for the Italian Gen group.  www.italiangen.org  These two groups help each other with records. The records I worked on were deaths for the Boroughs.  The information was typed on index cards, and very difficult at times to read.  It's quite possible that the date of marriage for Patrick and Margaret was also difficult to read, and therefore was transcribed incorrectly.  If you're sure about the names, I think I would take a chance and send for the marriage cert. Be sure to enter 'Queens' as the Borough, and the cert. number. Terry Bora Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Mccormack" <thatsgrandso@yahoo.ie> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] McArdle Brooklyn I just spotted Lynn...... 1917? They were married pre 1908. Slán, Kevin. ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mary Ann, I'll do my best...... can you give me details on the family.....what port they arrived what records you have from Co Clare etc.   Of course McMahon is a very common name to Co Clare. (My fav. county to visit.)   Slán, Kevin, Co Cork. --- On Mon, 22/11/10, MAS13751@aol.com <MAS13751@aol.com> wrote: From: MAS13751@aol.com <MAS13751@aol.com> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] McArdle Brooklyn To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, 22 November, 2010, 13:37 Kevin, I've been trying to get info on my great grandfather Michael  McMahon who came to NY from Ireland in 1864.  He was born Dec. 1841 in  County Clare; parents were Michael McMahon and Hannora O'Keefe.  Would like  to know their birthdates and whether he had brothers or sisters.  They were  Catholic so I'm assuming he wasn't an only child.  Can you help?   Thanks, Mary Ann in CT In a message dated 11/22/2010 5:21:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  thatsgrandso@yahoo.ie writes: Hello  All, Thanks for  your much appreciated assistance. It's  certainly given me a better understanding of NY records. If  anyone needs help in Ireland just let me know. Slán,  Kevin. ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the  NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on  the Surname Registry:    http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to  NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes  in the subject and the body of the  message ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry, I didn't mean to have Kevin spend a lot of time on my needs. Just thought he might have some suggestions from the Ireland side. Yes, I have tried the Clare site...thanks....Mary Ann > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Kevin. I wanted to tell you a few things about these records because I know you have a discrepancy in the marriage dates. I'm not sure how the German Gen. group volunteers get their information, but I've done transcriptions for the Italian Gen group. www.italiangen.org These two groups help each other with records. The records I worked on were deaths for the Boroughs. The information was typed on index cards, and very difficult at times to read. It's quite possible that the date of marriage for Patrick and Margaret was also difficult to read, and therefore was transcribed incorrectly. If you're sure about the names, I think I would take a chance and send for the marriage cert. Be sure to enter 'Queens' as the Borough, and the cert. number. Terry Bora Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Mccormack" <thatsgrandso@yahoo.ie> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] McArdle Brooklyn I just spotted Lynn...... 1917? They were married pre 1908. Slán, Kevin.

Kevin, I really don't have any records from County Clare. I know what you mean about the McMahon name being common...thought the O'Keefe might help but that's probably very common also. It took me 20 years to find out he was from Clare. (He seemed to change his birth year a lot.) The NY Emigrants Savings Bank Records indicate he arrived in 1864 on the ship Antartic. Haven't been able to locate the Antartic manifest on-line to see if other family member were with him or not. Guess it's like finding a needle in a haystack...thanks, Mary Ann ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All, Thanks for  your much appreciated assistance.   It's certainly given me a better understanding of NY records.   If anyone needs help in Ireland just let me know.   Slán, Kevin.

I have been to Ireland a number of times, Kevin, and while there are more sources in your country than what is online, they aren't all together. What is needed by Mary Ann is access to all the RC records and without knowing the area, it is hard to know which parish to look into. Her people emigrated in 1864, the year when civil registration started in your country. So, again Mary Ann needs RC records to piece her family together. I suggested she use the County Clare library so she could use the GV and the Tithe Applotments to find where in County Clare her surnames are found. After that research, maybe she can limit her search to fewer RC parishes. However, McMahon and O'Keefe are fairly common names. In fact, according to MacLysaght, McMahon is the most common surname in County Clare. Also, some RC parish records for County Clare are online at: http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/don_tran/bmd/index_bmd.htm Note the following parishes have been fully transcribed: Feakle, Tubber, plus much more parishes have partial transcriptions. By searching these records, if Mary Ann doesn't find her family, she can eliminate some RC parishes and her search gets narrower. Where are you in Ireland, Kevin? You have a wonderful and beautiful place to live. I am jealous. Don't worry about me Pat....... there's more sources than just on line. > > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Have you tried the County Clare Library website? http://www.clarelibrary.ie/ It is totally free and has all of County Clare's Griffith Valuation and Tithe Applotments plus much more. Now there is a project to transcribe all the County Clare's RC records which is also in coordination with the library. Some parishes are done and online. I am sure you can find more online than you think. You can't expect Kevin to do the research you need, especially when he would have to use the same resources that are found at the library, which you can research for free online. Kevin, I really don't have any records from County Clare. I know what you > mean about the McMahon name being common...thought the O'Keefe might help > but that's probably very common also. It took me 20 years to find out he > was from Clare. (He seemed to change his birth year a lot.) The NY > Emigrants Savings Bank Records indicate he arrived in 1864 on the ship > Antartic. > Haven't been able to locate the Antartic manifest on-line to see if other > family member were with him or not. Guess it's like finding a needle in a > haystack...thanks, Mary Ann > > > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Kevin, I've been trying to get info on my great grandfather Michael McMahon who came to NY from Ireland in 1864. He was born Dec. 1841 in County Clare; parents were Michael McMahon and Hannora O'Keefe. Would like to know their birthdates and whether he had brothers or sisters. They were Catholic so I'm assuming he wasn't an only child. Can you help? Thanks, Mary Ann in CT In a message dated 11/22/2010 5:21:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, thatsgrandso@yahoo.ie writes: Hello All, Thanks for your much appreciated assistance. It's certainly given me a better understanding of NY records. If anyone needs help in Ireland just let me know. Slán, Kevin. ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not sure if this is of any use but I  thought I'd post this.......   1900 Census Patrick McArdle and family are living on what looks like Boerman Place....running off Atlantic Avenue? Brooklyn Ward 3 District 21.   1910 Census Patrick with family on Nelson Street Brooklyn Ward 12 District 251   I may have confused matters earlier.......... 1st wife is in the 1900 census ( Anna)   2nd wife is there in 1910 census (Margaret)   I gave the censuses of 1900-1930 where I had the family....not what might have appeared as the time scale of my searches for marriages.   Apologies.   Slán, Kevin.

I just spotted Lynn...... 1917? They were married pre 1908.   Slán, Kevin. --- On Sun, 21/11/10, Lynn Grice <megrice@attglobal.net> wrote: From: Lynn Grice <megrice@attglobal.net> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] McArdle Brooklyn To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, 21 November, 2010, 15:33 Kevin, I found the marriage of Patrick McArdle to Margaret McCauran in the Grooms Index at www.germangenealogygroup.com (Note: this website is not solely devoted to German genealogy) Go to "Databases" then to "Vital Records Databases" and finally to "New York City Grooms Index" The pertinent record is certificate # 784 - 20 Apr 1917 in Queens Co. NY. There is a link to a printable form to request a copy of the certificate from the Municipal Archives in New York City.    I have used this method to get copies myself and it is very reliable and efficient. Good luck, Lynn Carey Grice ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is excellent news Lynn...thank you very much.   Can I expect to learn of the parents names from this?   Slán, Kevin. --- On Sun, 21/11/10, Lynn Grice <megrice@attglobal.net> wrote: From: Lynn Grice <megrice@attglobal.net> Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] McArdle Brooklyn To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, 21 November, 2010, 15:33 Kevin, I found the marriage of Patrick McArdle to Margaret McCauran in the Grooms Index at www.germangenealogygroup.com (Note: this website is not solely devoted to German genealogy) Go to "Databases" then to "Vital Records Databases" and finally to "New York City Grooms Index" The pertinent record is certificate # 784 - 20 Apr 1917 in Queens Co. NY. There is a link to a printable form to request a copy of the certificate from the Municipal Archives in New York City.    I have used this method to get copies myself and it is very reliable and efficient. Good luck, Lynn Carey Grice ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All, This is my first post.   I'm attempting to help out a friend of mine..... I have Patrick McArdle in 1900 married to Anna (she dies) and from 1910 -1930 married to Margaret with children incl twins John and Peter. (1908)   I'm in Ireland so you'll have to bear with me reg. NY records. I believe Margaret to be Margaret McGauran (various spellings) and they lived in Brooklyn.   What Id like to obtain is a marriage or death record of Patrick and/or Margaret too.   I'd also be interested in any avenue that could give me information.   Ultimately I need anything to help me gain records further back here in Ireland regarding the couple.   Any advice or assistance would be most welcome.  ( can NY records/library info be accessed inter state?)   Best regards. Slán, Kevin. Co Cork, Ireland.

Third time trying to post. Here's hoping it gets through to you on your personal email. Claire K. Begin forwarded message: > From: Claire K <seekay@comcast.net> > Date: November 21, 2010 11:48:59 AM EST > To: NY Irish <ny-irish@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] McArdle Brooklyn > > Hi Kevin, > > GermanGenealogyGroup.com has a NYC Grooms Record Index that includes Brooklyn (Kings Co.) Grooms from 1864 to 1907, Manhattan (New York Co.) Grooms from 1866 to 1907, Richmond (Staten Island) Grooms from 1898 to 1907, and New York City Grooms (all 5 boroughs, including Brooklyn), from 1908 to 1937. > > Groom's index entries for Kings Co. only, supplemented with Bride info (looking for both marriages): > > McArdle Patrick May 9 1872 Kings 800 - Bride Alice O'Donnell > McArdle Patrick Apr 19 1934 Kings 5645 - Bride Birdie Quinn > McArdle Patrick Jul 14 1936 Kings 12450 - Bride Lucy Robillard > McArdle Patrick J Sep 3 1924 Kings 12137 - not available online > > As you can see, none seem to match either or Patrick's marriages: to Anna (before 1900) or to Margaret (between 1900 and 1910), so I moved the search to Manhattan and found: > > McArdle Patrick Feb 18 1895 Manhattan 2855 - Bride Sarah McLeod > McArdle Patrick Jan 10 1883 Manhattan 22541 - Bride Ann Stanton > McArdle Patrick May 24 1870 Manhattan 495 - Bride Catharine Nash > McArdle Patrick Oct 21 1896 Manhattan 16126 - Bride Margaret Connell > McArdle Patrick Jan 24 1897 Manhattan 1412 - Bride Ann Donnelly > McArdle Patrick Jul 5 1899 Manhattan 10640 - Bride Ellen Coyle > McArdle Patrick Nov 12 1905 Manhattan 24779 - Bride Catherine Gardiner > McArdle Patrick Jul 18 1908 Manhattan 13253 - Bride Anna McArdle > McArdle Patrick Dec 26 1927 Manhattan 284 - Bride Anna Crozier > McArdle Patrick Apr 23 1923 Manhattan 15600 - not available online > > As you can see, there are two possible matches for Patrick and Ann before 1900 -- which is the more likely depends on their ages (I assume your info comes from censuses? if so, there should be more clues in the census -- years married, age of first child, year of emigration, etc., that might help you decide if either of these Patrick and Ann marriages are a likely match). > > Moving the search to Queens, I found what looks like Patrick's second marriage, though the date is later than you specified: > > McArdle Patrick Apr 20 1917 Queens 784 - Bride Margaret McCauran > > Might the Patrick McA married to Margaret McC/G be a different couple than the Patrick and Margaret you're looking for? It all depends on what you base your knowledge of "your" Margaret's maiden name. > > You might want to go through the birth and death indexes on the same site to see if you can find more details on the McArdle family you're searching (birth of the kids, death of the first wife, etc.). > > You can order certs online (and can pay be credit card, to avoid the foreign currency issue) from a link on http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/death.shtml > (it looks like the "by mail" option on the same page only allows for payment by check or money order). > > The list of what the archives has (which is more years than the GemanGenealogyGroup has yet indexed) is here: > http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vitalrecords/holdings.shtml > along with info on what you can and cannot request a search in > > Note that there are lots of other resources available, but it would help other listers to fill in gaps if we knew WHERE in Brooklyn the family lived -- some NYC resources are very specific to neighborhoods -- so be sure to give as many details as you have when you reply. > > Hope this is enough to get you started. > > Good luck! > > Claire K. > > > > On Nov 21, 2010, at 7:37 AM, Kevin Mccormack wrote: > >> ..... I have Patrick McArdle in 1900 married to Anna (she dies) and from 1910 -1930 married to Margaret with children incl twins John and Peter. (1908)...I believe Margaret to be Margaret McGauran...they lived in Brooklyn. >> >> What Id like to obtain is a marriage or death record of Patrick and/or Margaret too....any avenue that could give me information. >> ...to help me gain records further back here in Ireland regarding the couple. > >> ...( can NY records/library info be accessed inter state?) >> >> Best regards. >> Slán, Kevin. >> Co Cork, Ireland. > >