Hi friends - I always want to turn her when I don't know what to do next. Folks here never fail to nudge me in the right direction. I have received a load of new info recently, and as it always does, it raises more questions. The big new piece of info I found was that my 2X great grandmother's parents possibly came over with her, based on her age. The earliest I have her is in the 1870 US census, married with kids. Going on that and later census info, she was born between 1833-1843, and she arrived in NY between 1850-1855. I recently got a copy of her DC and it said she was 62 when she died in Nov 1916. Since I am positive all of this is the same woman, Ann Daley Fox (husband Michael or Michel Fox) I am also positive many of these numbers are wrong. If she thought she was 33 in 1870, with 4 kids, she certainly was born in 1854, as her death cert suggests. So - knowing that, I have looked at a range of info including passenger, emigrant bank, old newspapers, and earlier census in the Fox and Daley/Daly names, and I haven't found anything I can connect to them in the US before 1870. Now that I suspect her parents probably came, too, I'm looking for them - James and Ann (Downs) Daley - in the US. Nothing anywhere suggests where in Ireland they came from. Thanks for any nudge... Judi

Thanks for this Jack..it's important. Who knew these places existed? So many women came alone - - - Kelly On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:07 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > There is an article in this week's CATHOLIC NEW YORK describing the Irish > Museum at Watson House at the tip of Manhattan (Our Lady of the Rosary > Church, > which includes The shrine to Mother Seton). The mission met the young, > mostly single girls at Castle Garden or later Ellis Island and made sure > they got off to a good start. The important thing for genealogists is that > they kept records, listing name, age, county, and name and address of > their destination party (usually a relative, which was so noted; brother, > cousin, etc.) There are thousands of entries. It is a very easy site to > negotiate. > and access is free. The URL given by CNY is > > watsonhouse.org > > From the article: Five bound ledgers, with mission history > from 1897 to 1940, were digitized. They include 35,000 records and can be > searched at > > watsonhouse.org > > which also displays information and pictures from the exhibit. > > Jack Langton > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There is an article in this week's CATHOLIC NEW YORK describing the Irish Museum at Watson House at the tip of Manhattan (Our Lady of the Rosary Church, which includes The shrine to Mother Seton). The mission met the young, mostly single girls at Castle Garden or later Ellis Island and made sure they got off to a good start. The important thing for genealogists is that they kept records, listing name, age, county, and name and address of their destination party (usually a relative, which was so noted; brother, cousin, etc.) There are thousands of entries. It is a very easy site to negotiate. and access is free. The URL given by CNY is watsonhouse.org From the article: Five bound ledgers, with mission history from 1897 to 1940, were digitized. They include 35,000 records and can be searched at watsonhouse.org which also displays information and pictures from the exhibit. Jack Langton

The Brooklyn city directories from 1856,1857 and 1858 can be found at the Brooklyn Public Library's website: http://www.bklynpubliclibrary.org/brooklyn-collection/digitized-brooklyn-city-directories I don't know where the 1859 one can be found.   Anna Caulfield Professional Genealogist www.abcgenealogist.com On Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:47 AM, VLB <[email protected]> wrote: Thanks for this, Barb. Not everything is still there on the bklyn genealogy site. Any idea what happened to the 1859 Brooklyn city directory or where else can it be found? thanks, Virginia ________________________________ From: " [email protected]" Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:36 PM Subject: [NY-IRISH] "PAPER TRAILS" for homeless Docs & Certs Dear Friends, When you-have certificates and documentation That do not belong in your family, do not discard 'em. There is a place for thesis Birth, Marriage, Death, Natz, Baptism, Veterans Records, Wills, Social Security, etc. for the NYC Metro area., It's called "PAPER TRAILS," and is maintained by Nancy's Lutz on the Brooklyn homepage, for all NYC counties, at> http://bklyn-genealogy-info.stevemorse.org/PaperTrails/index.htmlJust email Nancy at [email protected] ask if she wants the scanned docs, mailed post. or transcribed. FYI, "PAPER TRAILS" is a great spot to search for records That might be yours, * before * playing the game send and wait. HOMEPAGE The BROOKLYN NYC is a must for every searcher NYC. It is chockfull of genealogical info for ALL of NYC, not just Brooklyn. Be sour to bookmark icts latest rental>  http://bklyn-genealogy-info.stevemorse.org/The free search at NYC marraiges (1600s to 1900s) is BKLN guided me to many ancestral marriages , a decade before the IGG & GGG transcription project. Just keep your mind open to various surname spellings here> http://bklyn-genealogy-info.stevemorse.org/Marriage/AZ/index.htmlWhen in doubt, try the Brooklyn . homepage ! Try it, you'll like it Barb From: Deb Woolley [email protected], I have two sets of naturalization papers That I ordered from the National Archives That Are not my Philip Fitzpatrick .... Contact me off line at [email protected] you want Either of thesis copies. ==== NY-Irish Mailing List ==== Do not forget to check out the NY-Irish Mailing list website. Also, check / add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/----------------------- -------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the post   ==== NY-Irish Mailing List ==== Do not forget to check out the NY-Irish Mailing list website. Also, check / add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ----------------------- -------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the post

The Daily Mercury published in Huntsville, AL September 19 1890 NEWS IN BRIEF ------- A Condensation of Interesting Items on Various Subjects ------- George Deistel shot and killed Francis Birk, who ran away with Mrs. Deistel, in New York. ------- Henry E. Abbey says Sarah Bernhardt will open her American engagement Feb. 9 at the Fifth Avenue. She will probably play “La Tosca.” ------- Francis Birk, who, after being introduced by George Deistel into his family ran away with Mrs. Deistel, was shot and killed by Deistel in New York. ------- Tommy Kelly, the “Harlem Spider,” * and Tommy Russell, also of Harlem, fought** a rattling brattle in New Jersey Tuesday. Twelve rounds settled Russell. SOURCE: http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?action=detail&id=116989 * Boxing, w/o gloves

Begin forwarded message: > From: Pat Lewis <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] seek Co. Dublin researcher > Date: March 20, 2014 3:39:22 PM EDT > To: [email protected] > Reply-To: [email protected] > > PUT OUT A EMAIL TO "ANNGREGG ON DUBLIN SITE…… SHE DOES GENEALOGY IN DUBLIN. I HAVE USUED HER IN THE PAST. I DO NOT HAVE HER EMAIL ADDRESS ANMORE SO TRY THE DUBLIN SITE FOR IT > > > > > On Mar 20, 2014, at 11:46 AM, [email protected] wrote: > >> >> Hello All, >> >> I live in the States and want to hire a reliable Co. Dublin researcher to >> search in the 1800s parish registers of St. Michael's Kingstown/Dun >> Laoghaire. If you know a good one, please give me details. >> >> Thanks. >> >> PJ >> >> >> >> ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== >> Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

PUT OUT A EMAIL TO "ANNGREGG ON DUBLIN SITE…… SHE DOES GENEALOGY IN DUBLIN. I HAVE USUED HER IN THE PAST. I DO NOT HAVE HER EMAIL ADDRESS ANMORE SO TRY THE DUBLIN SITE FOR IT On Mar 20, 2014, at 11:46 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Hello All, > > I live in the States and want to hire a reliable Co. Dublin researcher to > search in the 1800s parish registers of St. Michael's Kingstown/Dun > Laoghaire. If you know a good one, please give me details. > > Thanks. > > PJ > > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All, I live in the States and want to hire a reliable Co. Dublin researcher to search in the 1800s parish registers of St. Michael's Kingstown/Dun Laoghaire. If you know a good one, please give me details. Thanks. PJ

We had a Bridget in our Maguire family and it's interesting to read about the name's connotation in the United States. I always knew my grandmother as Lottie, and when I tried to find her marriage license in New York that is how I submitted the request. After about 3 unsuccessful tries I found her real name "Charlotte" on a census form and was finally able to secure the marriage license.

Dear Friends, When you have certificates and documents that do not belong in your family, don't discard them. There is a place for these Birth, Marriage, Death, NATZ, Baptism, Veterans records, Wills, Social Security, etc for the NYC Metro area., It's called "PAPER TRAILS," and is maintained by Nancy's Lutz on the Brooklyn homepage, for all NYC counties, at> http://bklyn-genealogy-info.stevemorse.org/PaperTrails/index.html Just email Nancy at [email protected] and ask if she wants the docs scanned, post mailed. or transcribed. FYI, "PAPER TRAILS" is a great spot to search for records that might be yours, *before* playing the send and wait game. The BROOKLYN NYC HOMEPAGE is a must for every NYC searcher. It is chockfull of genealogical info for ALL of NYC, not just Brooklyn. Be sure to bookmark its latest location> http://bklyn-genealogy-info.stevemorse.org/ The free search at NYC MARRAIGES (1600s to 1900s) on BKLN guided me to many ancestral marriages, a decade before the IGG & GGG transcription project. Just keep your mind open to various surname spellings here> http://bklyn-genealogy-info.stevemorse.org/Marriage/AZ/index.html When in doubt, try the Brooklyn Homepage. Try it, you'll like it! Barb From: Deb Woolley [email protected] Hi, I have two sets of naturalization papers that I ordered from the National Archives that are not my Philip Fitzpatrick.... Contact me off line at [email protected] if you want either of these copies.

Thanks for this, Barb.  Not everything is still there on the bklyn genealogy site. Any idea what happened to the 1859 Brooklyn city directory or where else it can be found? thanks, Virginia ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 3:36 PM Subject: [NY-IRISH] "PAPER TRAILS" for homeless Docs & Certs Dear Friends, When you have certificates and documents that do not belong in your family, don't discard them. There is a place for these Birth, Marriage, Death, NATZ, Baptism, Veterans records, Wills, Social Security, etc for the NYC Metro area., It's called "PAPER TRAILS," and is maintained by Nancy's Lutz on the Brooklyn homepage, for all NYC counties,  at> http://bklyn-genealogy-info.stevemorse.org/PaperTrails/index.html Just email Nancy at [email protected] and ask if she wants the docs scanned, post mailed. or transcribed. FYI, "PAPER TRAILS" is a great spot to search for records that might be yours, *before* playing the send and wait game. The BROOKLYN NYC HOMEPAGE is a must for every NYC searcher. It is chockfull of genealogical info for ALL of NYC, not just Brooklyn. Be sure to bookmark its latest location>  http://bklyn-genealogy-info.stevemorse.org/ The free search at NYC MARRAIGES (1600s to 1900s) on BKLN guided me to many ancestral marriages, a decade before the IGG & GGG transcription project. Just keep your mind open to various surname spellings here> http://bklyn-genealogy-info.stevemorse.org/Marriage/AZ/index.html When in doubt, try the Brooklyn Homepage. Try it, you'll like it! Barb From: Deb Woolley [email protected] Hi, I have two sets of naturalization papers that I ordered from the National Archives that are not my Philip Fitzpatrick.... Contact me off line at [email protected] if you want either of these copies. ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It is strange how people were called by names other than their birth names. My Irish ancestors were no different, i.e., James Roger was called 'Buddy' (that's far off); my grandmother Alice Irene was called, Irene/Reeni; Hugh Edward was called Eddie, John was called Jack (that's common)....   Ally ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] A Rose by any other name.. We had a Bridget in our Maguire family and it's interesting to read about the name's connotation in the United States. I always knew my grandmother as Lottie, and when I tried to find her marriage license in New York that is how I submitted the request.  After about 3 unsuccessful tries I found her real name "Charlotte" on a census form and was finally able to secure the marriage license. ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website.  Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry:  http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All, Today's NY Times had this interesting article on the cemetery, and others in the city. The Graves of Forgotten New Yorkers By BESS LOVEJOY and ALLISON C. MEIER MARCH 18, 2014 http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/19/opinion/the-graves-of-forgotten-new-yorkers.html PJ

Hi, I have two sets of naturalization papers that I ordered from the National Archives that are not my Philip Fitzpatrick. Fortunately, the third set I ordered is my ancestor! If anyone wants these copies, just let me know off line. The first set is for Philip Fitzpatrick, filed in court Sept. 4, 1852. However, the oath of allegiance and intention to become a citizen was signed 19 Nov. 1849. The witness is a James Fitzpatrick, who signed on 4 Sept 1852, as did Philip Fitzpatrick, signing his oath. The papers are reverse copies of film and are stamped Superior Court NY Co. Bundle 35 Record No. 148 The second set is for Philip A. Fitzpatrick, filed in court 12 Oct 1852. His witness is John J. Reilly of No. 4 Mongumery (sp?) Street. Philip A. Fitzpatrick lived at No. 32 Scamel (?) Street. The papers are copies of film and are stamped Common Pleas NY Co. Bundle 114 Record No. 247. Sorry about the street names . I am not able to read them and am not that familiar with some of the old street names in NY or what these might be! Contact me off line at [email protected] if you want either of these copies.

The Daily Mercury published in: Huntsville, AL October 26 1890 Page 1, Column 6; Page 2, Column 4 ================ Page 1, Column 6 ================= A Farewell Reception ------- NEW YORK, Oct. 25. – Dr. F. M. Lieber, the well-known German statesman, was given a farewell reception at Cooper Union yesterday evening by the German Catholics of the city and vicinity. On the platform were many prominent citizens. Addresses were delivered by Bishop Wigger, of Newark, N. J., Archbishop Corrigan and others. Herr Lieber, who came to this country six weeks ago to ascertain the financial, social and religious standing of Germans in America, sails on Saturday for Germany. ================ Page 1, Column 7 ================= NEWS IN BRIEF In a fire in New York city John O’Grady, an aged paralytic, being unable to move from the building, was burned to death. ------- I. R. Creighton, a New York banker, committed suicide by taking morphine. A letter left by him indicates business discouragements. ------- Henry Seiffe, in the superior court at New York, obtained a judgment of $41,400 against the Cleveland railroad for damages to his property on Sixth avenue. This is the heaviest verdict so far of the kind. http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?action=detail&id=120226

The Daily Mercury published in Huntsville, AL October 24 1890 Page 1, Column 5 To Welcome Dillon and O’Brien ------- NEW YORK, Oct. 23. – The municipal council of the Irish National league* met Tuesday to arrange for a reception to William O’Brien and John Dillon.** A public demonstration was decided upon to be held at either the Madison Square garden or the Metropolitan opera house, Nov. 10. A general admission will be charged. http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?action=detail&id=120127 NOTEWORTHY * The Irish National League (INL) was a nationalist political party in Ireland. It was founded in October 1882 by Charles Stewart Parnell ** Catholic politican in IRE; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Dillon

Buffalo Courier published in Buffalo, NY October 8 1890 Page 1, Columns 2 & 7 ================ Page 1, Column 2 ================= Manslaughter in the First Degree NEW YORK, October 7.— Phoenix P. Palmer, a safe mover, who on March 26th last killed lawyer John H. Atkinson with a cart rung, was found guilty this evening of manslaughter in the first degree. The prisoner was remanded for sentence. Palmer was sent to remove a safe from Atkinson's office. A quarrel arose and Palmer hit the lawyer on the heed with a cart rung. The defense claimed Atkinson fell and his heed struck the rung. Palmer was a native of Poughkeepsie, and came here two years ago. Witnesses testified to his good character. Ex-Judge Smith of Cortland defended him. The penalty is from five to 20 years under the conviction. The cart rung felt, making a loud noise, just as the verdict arrived. It had been used in proving the case and was leaning against the wall ================ Page 1, Column 7 ================= Political Nominations ------- NEW YORK, Oct. 7.—The County Democrats in the First District to-night nominated Patrick McConville for the Assembly. http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?action=detail&id=119917

The Daily Mercury published in Huntsville, AL September 19 1890 Page 1, Column 7 NEWS IN BRIEF ------- A Condensation of Interesting Items on Various Subjects ------- George Deistel shot and killed Francis Birk, who ran away with Mrs. Deistel, in New York. ------- Henry E. Abbey says Sarah Bernhardt will open her American engagement Feb. 9 at the Fifth Avenue. She will probably play “La Tosca.” ------- Francis Birk, who, after being introduced by George Deistel into his family ran away with Mrs. Deistel, was shot and killed by Deistel in New York. ------- *Tommy Kelly, the “Harlem Spider,” and Tommy Russell, also of Harlem, fought a rattling brattle in New Jersey Tuesday. Twelve rounds settled Russell. http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?action=detail&id=116989 NOTEWORTHY * Boxing, w/o gloves

The Watauga Democrat published in Boone, NC July 11 1912 Page 2, Columns 1 & 2 =============== Page 2, Column 1 ================= A New York dispatch to The Charlotte Observer say: A call to the people of the United States who are in sympathy with the National Progressive Movement to send delegates to a National convention to open in Chicago Aug 5, has been given out by Senator Joseph Dixon, of Montana, who is Colonel Roosevelt's campaign manager. The call is signed by members of the committee chosen at the meeting held in Chicago and Roosevelt followers in forty states. It is probable that this convention will adopt the name, "National Progressive" for the new party. Included in the list of signers to the call are three democrats, Judge Ben B. Lindsey, of Denver; Julian Harris, of Atlanta, son of Joel Chandler Harris, and John M. Parker, of New Orleans. --------------------- In New York Sunday Rev. Edward Harrigon of the Catholic church, preached a sermon against the “turkey trot" and all other dancing contortions. He declared them to be not only immoral but criminal, and said were he a magistrate and asked to sentence a couple for such that he would send the girl to the penitentiary for a year and the man to jail for three months. When a woman can thus lay aside all modesty, the worst is too good for her. =============== Page 2, Column 2 ================= Rev. M. L. Troutman, pastor of the First Methodist church in New York City, and well known in the South, died in that city on the 5th. http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?action=detail&id=119764

The Montgomery Advertiser published in Montgomery, AL January 10 1902 Capt. CLAYTON Free. Divorced From His Wife at White Plains, N.Y. Date: The following item in reference to a well known Alabamian, now residing in New York, is from The New York Journal of Westchester: Captain Bertram T. CLAYTON, U.S.A., was granted an absolute divorce from his wife yesterday by Justice Martin T. Keogh, in the Supreme Court at White Plains. By the decree Captain CLAYTON is awarded the custody of his two children, William B., aged 13, and Bertram T., Jr., aged 6. Testimony in the suit was heard by Justice Keogh on Monday. Mrs. CLAYTON did not oppose the action, she was not in court, and was not even represented by counsel. Captain CLAYTON is now on duty in the Philippines, and his testimony was taken there. He accused his wife of the statutory offence without naming the co-respondent. Detectives secured the evidence on which the suit was based. The news of Captain CLAYTON's divorce has been expected ever since the Journal exclusively announced on November 26 last that he had instituted a divorce action and that his wife would not defend it. At the same time, Mrs. CLAYTON, despite the fact that she was still a wife, then announced through this paper her engagement to George BAIN, an insurance broker, who has an office at No. 45 Pine Street. http://www.newspaperabstracts.com/link.php?action=detail&id=119713