Kelly, this website will give you the info. Be sure to click on the correct year first. http://www.stevemorse.org/census/index.html?ed2street=1 The streets in that ED are 2nd Ave, 72nd E, 73rd E & Lexington Ave. Terry Bora -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Kelly Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 5:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NY-IRISH] ED 707 Manhattan On 1900 Census that's all the info I have. C taker did not write name of street - ?#$%# How can I find out where this is? Kelly

Kelly thanks for letting me know. I moved my site a month ago from one server to another. If you could give me the exact link that you clicked on, I can fix it and you will be able to see what you were looking for. I clicked on the index for my ancestor ( Timmons ) on your above > page and got a weird deep blue half page "Connorsgenealogy.com" ? > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Hi Pat I clicked on the index for my ancestor ( Timmons ) on your above page and got a weird deep blue half page "Connorsgenealogy.com" ? Appreciate your help. Looking for John Timmons b IRE 1850 ish d before 1893 Rensaleer or Troy Wife - Mary ? Children: Anna Jennie Nellie Thanks very much Kelly

On 1900 Census that's all the info I have. C taker did not write name of street - ?#$%# How can I find out where this is? Kelly

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I WAS SURPRISED TOO! I THOUGHT THEY MIGHT SEND LIST OF HUSES HE WORKED OUT OF, ANY PROMOTIONS/MEDALS,ETC, BUT NOTHING ELSE BUT WHEN APPOINTED AND WHEN RETIRED, OH,YES HIS SALARY. I ALSO GOT A APPROX. AMOUNT OF HIS SALARY FROM ANCESTRY CENSUS OF 1940,WHICH KIND OF FIT, IT SAID $3000. FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR,EQUALS OUT TO THE AMOUNT HE RECEIVED IN '44-'66,$125.00 PER MONTH. HE ALSO REC'D A NAVY PENSION FOR DISABILITY (HERNIA WHILE PREFORMING HIS DUTY ABOARD SHIP)…..I DOUBT SNYONE COULD LIVE HIGH ON HOG BACK IN THOSE DAYS, ANY BETTER THAN NOW……HOWEVER, BACK IN THE '40s MANY PEOPLE THOUGHT YOU MUST BE RICH TO RETIRE…LOL. NEVER MIND HE HAD TO GET A "REAL" JOB JUST TO SUPPORT FAMILY. HE DID TRY TO RE-ENLIST IN NAVY SFTER RETIRING FROM PD, BUT HIS HALTH RECORD TURN HIM DOWN, HE HAD HEART ATTACK JUST BEFORE RETIRING FROM PD + THE HERNIA….. BUT HE DID BECOME A HOUSE DETECTIVE FOR SOME BIG HOTELS BACK THEN, SO HE MUST HAVE LIKED POLICE-WORK. MY SONS, ON THE OTHER HAND ARE BOTH FIRE DEP'T LT'S. ONE HERE IN FL, ONE IN NJ, JUST RETIRED., I WAS FOR 10 YEARS,ON A VOL.FD. MUST BE IN THE BLOOD, ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE "1830's"……AT LEAST ONE PERSON IN EACH GENRERATION SINCE THEN, I HAVE FOUND,SO FAR. 4 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Kathleen Scarlett O'Hara Naylor <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Pat, > > I'm really surprised to hear that. My great-grandfather served in the NYPD > at approximately the same time as your father (beginning in the 1920s; I > can't look up at the moment just when he retired) and the police department > was able to provide me with a substantial amount of information, including > a photograph, records of his promotions and various transfers (even > temporary) within the department, etc. They were definitely keeping records > during that time period! > > When did you request the records? I understand that the NYPD has a database > that is used to access these records for this kind of request - if your > request was more than a few years ago, I wonder if trying again might yield > better results? Maybe the database is a relatively recent innovation > allowing them to fulfill family history requests. (My request was fulfilled > in 2009.) > > I sent my request to > > Chief of Personnel > Staff Services Section > 1 Police Plaza Room 1208 > New York, NY 10038 > > > -Katie > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Pat Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I SENT FOR MY FATHERS ' RECORDS TO A GENTLEMAN AT POLICE PLAZA IN NYC. >> HE HAD BEEN ON THE PD FROM 1922-1942. LAST SERVED IN THE 23RD PRECEINT >> ,NOW ON 102ND ST AND 2ND AVE AND A MUCH LARGER BUILDING THAN WHEN HE WAS >> THERE. THIS AREA BACK THEN WAS CONSIDERED HARLEM, EXTENDING W. TO 110TH >> ST, BACK THEN ,NOW CONSIDERED AS PART OF FROM 110TH & HUDSON RIVER TO PAST >> W. 125TH,FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD. WHEN HE RETIRED THE STREETS FROM MORNING >> SIDE HEIGHTS AND N TO ABOUT 125TH WERE CONSIDERED COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY AREA. >> THE ONLY RECORDS THEY HAD OF MY FATHER WAS DATE HE WAS SWORN IN AND DATE >> HE RETIRED, AND NOTICE OF HIS DEATH IN 1966. THEY SAID THERE WERE NO >> RECORDS KEPT AT THAT TIME OF THAT PERIOD. THEE IS PROBABLY MUCH MORE ON >> RECORDS OF TODAYS POLICE, WHAT WITH ALL THE COMPUTERS IN EACH STATION AND >> FORMS TO BE FILLED OUT. >> I DO KNOW FROM FAMILY STORIES/LORE, HE WAS A PLAINCLOTHES DETECTIVE DURING >> PROBITION WHEN HE WAS ASSIGNED AT ANOTHER STATION AT AT ONE TIME WORKED AT >> A STATION ON KINGS-BRIDGE RD. IN BRONX. >> GOOD LUCK IN YOUR SEARCH. >> ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== >> Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, >> check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: >> http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have not, although I have some FDNY ancestors as well - I might have to give it a try. I just googled "NYFD Personnel Records" and got this site: http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/html/after_fire/fire_records.shtml#records. It says that employee records are only available with "an original employee signed notarized authorization," but maybe calling the phone number listed would provide some information on whether there are any exceptions for genealogical requests, or records older than a certain date, etc. Katie On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 1:37 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]>wrote: > Has anyone tried or been successful obtaining records from the NYFD? > I have an ancestor who was a fireman and I sent an email to the NYFD Museum > (?) that I found on a web site. No answer and it's been several weeks. > > Thanks, > Ally > > >

Has anyone tried or been successful obtaining records from the NYFD? I have an ancestor who was a fireman and I sent an email to the NYFD Museum (?) that I found on a web site. No answer and it's been several weeks. Thanks, Ally -------Original Message------- From: Kathleen Scarlett O'Hara Naylor Date: 4/3/2014 12:34:13 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] Police (employment) records Hi Kelly, I described where I wrote and how I requested information on an NYPD ancestor in this post: http://whereyoucamefrom.blogspot com/2009/08/obtaining-genealogical-information.html I should add that I have since successfully requested information about other ancestors where I was able to provide much less biographical information, with no problems. Katie

Hi Pat, I'm really surprised to hear that. My great-grandfather served in the NYPD at approximately the same time as your father (beginning in the 1920s; I can't look up at the moment just when he retired) and the police department was able to provide me with a substantial amount of information, including a photograph, records of his promotions and various transfers (even temporary) within the department, etc. They were definitely keeping records during that time period! When did you request the records? I understand that the NYPD has a database that is used to access these records for this kind of request - if your request was more than a few years ago, I wonder if trying again might yield better results? Maybe the database is a relatively recent innovation allowing them to fulfill family history requests. (My request was fulfilled in 2009.) I sent my request to Chief of Personnel Staff Services Section 1 Police Plaza Room 1208 New York, NY 10038 -Katie On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Pat Lewis <[email protected]> wrote: > I SENT FOR MY FATHERS ' RECORDS TO A GENTLEMAN AT POLICE PLAZA IN NYC. > HE HAD BEEN ON THE PD FROM 1922-1942. LAST SERVED IN THE 23RD PRECEINT > ,NOW ON 102ND ST AND 2ND AVE AND A MUCH LARGER BUILDING THAN WHEN HE WAS > THERE. THIS AREA BACK THEN WAS CONSIDERED HARLEM, EXTENDING W. TO 110TH > ST, BACK THEN ,NOW CONSIDERED AS PART OF FROM 110TH & HUDSON RIVER TO PAST > W. 125TH,FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD. WHEN HE RETIRED THE STREETS FROM MORNING > SIDE HEIGHTS AND N TO ABOUT 125TH WERE CONSIDERED COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY AREA. > THE ONLY RECORDS THEY HAD OF MY FATHER WAS DATE HE WAS SWORN IN AND DATE > HE RETIRED, AND NOTICE OF HIS DEATH IN 1966. THEY SAID THERE WERE NO > RECORDS KEPT AT THAT TIME OF THAT PERIOD. THEE IS PROBABLY MUCH MORE ON > RECORDS OF TODAYS POLICE, WHAT WITH ALL THE COMPUTERS IN EACH STATION AND > FORMS TO BE FILLED OUT. > I DO KNOW FROM FAMILY STORIES/LORE, HE WAS A PLAINCLOTHES DETECTIVE DURING > PROBITION WHEN HE WAS ASSIGNED AT ANOTHER STATION AT AT ONE TIME WORKED AT > A STATION ON KINGS-BRIDGE RD. IN BRONX. > GOOD LUCK IN YOUR SEARCH. > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I SENT FOR MY FATHERS ' RECORDS TO A GENTLEMAN AT POLICE PLAZA IN NYC. HE HAD BEEN ON THE PD FROM 1922-1942. LAST SERVED IN THE 23RD PRECEINT ,NOW ON 102ND ST AND 2ND AVE AND A MUCH LARGER BUILDING THAN WHEN HE WAS THERE. THIS AREA BACK THEN WAS CONSIDERED HARLEM, EXTENDING W. TO 110TH ST, BACK THEN ,NOW CONSIDERED AS PART OF FROM 110TH & HUDSON RIVER TO PAST W. 125TH,FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD. WHEN HE RETIRED THE STREETS FROM MORNING SIDE HEIGHTS AND N TO ABOUT 125TH WERE CONSIDERED COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY AREA. THE ONLY RECORDS THEY HAD OF MY FATHER WAS DATE HE WAS SWORN IN AND DATE HE RETIRED, AND NOTICE OF HIS DEATH IN 1966. THEY SAID THERE WERE NO RECORDS KEPT AT THAT TIME OF THAT PERIOD. THEE IS PROBABLY MUCH MORE ON RECORDS OF TODAYS POLICE, WHAT WITH ALL THE COMPUTERS IN EACH STATION AND FORMS TO BE FILLED OUT. I DO KNOW FROM FAMILY STORIES/LORE, HE WAS A PLAINCLOTHES DETECTIVE DURING PROBITION WHEN HE WAS ASSIGNED AT ANOTHER STATION AT AT ONE TIME WORKED AT A STATION ON KINGS-BRIDGE RD. IN BRONX. GOOD LUCK IN YOUR SEARCH.

The Brooklyn Eagle is now online free from 1841 thru 1955 at http://newsstand.bklynpubliclibrary.org/  I just went to their old site to search a name and the announcement popped up. It must have just happened as I was on the old site the other day.  I have just taken a quick look but there seems to be a better search function, at least for the post-1900 era--time will tell.  But this is fantastic news for all of us with Brooklyn roots. There are a number of new functions, including being able to save to your Ancestry tree, if you have a subscription.  Virginia

There is a McNally connected with my family. In a census it was written "McGalley". Yet another option. Thanks! Marian McCabe On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:25 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Going back a few years, I went to a lecture given by Mr. Sillinonte in one > of our Staten Island libraries, > and found him to be a very self-effacing, quiet gentleman who patiently > answered every question in > detail. And he got his start by simply "walking the ground" and recording > countless tombstones. > > Jack Langton > > > -----Original Message----- > From: VLB <[email protected]> > To: mizscarlettny <[email protected]>; NY-IRISH <[email protected]>; > NYBrooklyn <[email protected]> > Sent: Tue, Apr 1, 2014 5:10 pm > Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] surname with capital "G" > > > A very good tip. His book, Bishop Loughlin's Dispensations, is a treasure > trove. The diocesan archivist said Mr Silinonte had compiled volume 2 but > died > suddenly and no one knows what happened to it. A real shame for us and > for him > after all that work. Virginia > > > ________________________________ > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 4:21 PM > Subject: surname with capital "G" > > > > Dear Friends, > > It's difficult to believe that noted NYC Genealogist, author, and > Brooklynite Joseph Silinonte passed away in May 2004, > but his work lives on. > > While cleaning out old emails today, I found one where Mr Silinonte > notes that when researching an Irish, handwritten surname beginning with > Mc G*, the "G" looked like a "P", whereas I've suggested an "S." > > This may be just the clue someone needs. > > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks, Pat, for mentioning that you asked permission of the author prior to reposting them to this NY-Irish list. For those on lists: it is the polite and required protocol, and shows respect to the writer. No ONE has my authorization to copy and paste any of my posts to any other lists, journals, etc without seeking and receiving my specific permission. To "Deb," who cut and pasted my complete post about "Paper Trails": I never gave you permission to repost my original research and writing on Facebook. When I compose posts with links and history, I am donating my time and talents to my intended genealogy community/list. Some of my lengthy, documented posts take an hour or more to research, then compose. Please do not disrespect or disregard me or my work by (especially) reposting it on so called "social" media. When Walter Greenspan passed away, I consulted with his daughters and they authorized me to compose an online Obituary for my friend Walter. That took about 3 hours for me to research and compose. Again, I did not appreciate that a NY-Irish member forwarded it to Dick Eastman, who published it word for word in his newsletter, without the courtesy of citing me as the source. If you still do not understand, look up the word: plagiarize.* Barb @ BAM-4/2/2014 *http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plagiarize ======================================================================= From: Pat Connors [email protected] "I have permission to re-post them to this list from the poster."

Thanks very much Judi ..he died in the 1930s Kelly On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 1:22 PM, judi <[email protected]> wrote: > > Kelly, this is the return address on the envelope... > If he died before 1898, they won't have it, but if he died on the job, > they > probably do. > Good luck! > Judi > > First Deputy Commissioner > > New York City Police Department > > One Police Plaza â RM. 1412 > New York, NY 10038 > > On 04/02/14, Kelly<[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Judi > Would you please share the address you wrote to for police records in > NYC? > Is there a fee? My great uncle > my great uncle Jack Devlin was an NYPD on foot patrolling in Harlem, > died > young. Family says when he was waked "half of Harlem came down to show > their affection " > Thanks > Kelly > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Judi <[1][email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I recently requested my 2X great grandfather's records from the NYPD. > I > > received a very nice response yesterday that a search of their records > > turned up nothing, though several state and federal censuses list his > > occupation as police, as do city directories and several articles in > the > > Brooklyn Daily Eagle. He was a patrolman with 20 years' service, and > the > > Eagle published his retirement announcement. The trouble seems to be > that > > he > > retired in 1892, and "Brooklyn was not consolidated into the > municipality > > of > > NYC" until 1898. Documents from that period are not maintained within > the > > NYCPD for that reason. > > > > They included pages of options as to what to do next - including > Municipal > > Archives, Dept of Health, and dozens of others, followed by > instructions > > for > > requesting BMD certs...which I don't need, in this instance. Has > anyone > > else > > encountered this, and if so, what did you do next? > > > > Thanks, > > Judi > > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > > [2]http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [3][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add > your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > [4]http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [5][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > References > > 1. mailto:[email protected] > 2. http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > 3. mailto:[email protected] > 4. http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > 5. mailto:[email protected] > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kelly, I described where I wrote and how I requested information on an NYPD ancestor in this post: http://whereyoucamefrom.blogspot.com/2009/08/obtaining-genealogical-information.html I should add that I have since successfully requested information about other ancestors where I was able to provide much less biographical information, with no problems. Katie On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Kelly <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Judi > > Would you please share the address you wrote to for police records in NYC? > Is there a fee? My great uncle > my great uncle Jack Devlin was an NYPD on foot patrolling in Harlem, died > young. Family says when he was waked "half of Harlem came down to show > their affection " > > Thanks > Kelly > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Judi <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > I recently requested my 2X great grandfather's records from the NYPD. I > > received a very nice response yesterday that a search of their records > > turned up nothing, though several state and federal censuses list his > > occupation as police, as do city directories and several articles in the > > Brooklyn Daily Eagle. He was a patrolman with 20 years' service, and the > > Eagle published his retirement announcement. The trouble seems to be that > > he > > retired in 1892, and "Brooklyn was not consolidated into the municipality > > of > > NYC" until 1898. Documents from that period are not maintained within the > > NYCPD for that reason. > > > > They included pages of options as to what to do next - including > Municipal > > Archives, Dept of Health, and dozens of others, followed by instructions > > for > > requesting BMD certs...which I don't need, in this instance. Has anyone > > else > > encountered this, and if so, what did you do next? > > > > Thanks, > > Judi > > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Kelly, this is the return address on the envelope... If he died before 1898, they won't have it, but if he died on the job, they probably do. Good luck! Judi First Deputy Commissioner New York City Police Department One Police Plaza â RM. 1412 New York, NY 10038 On 04/02/14, Kelly<[email protected]> wrote: Hi Judi Would you please share the address you wrote to for police records in NYC? Is there a fee? My great uncle my great uncle Jack Devlin was an NYPD on foot patrolling in Harlem, died young. Family says when he was waked "half of Harlem came down to show their affection " Thanks Kelly On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Judi <[1][email protected]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > I recently requested my 2X great grandfather's records from the NYPD. I > received a very nice response yesterday that a search of their records > turned up nothing, though several state and federal censuses list his > occupation as police, as do city directories and several articles in the > Brooklyn Daily Eagle. He was a patrolman with 20 years' service, and the > Eagle published his retirement announcement. The trouble seems to be that > he > retired in 1892, and "Brooklyn was not consolidated into the municipality > of > NYC" until 1898. Documents from that period are not maintained within the > NYCPD for that reason. > > They included pages of options as to what to do next - including Municipal > Archives, Dept of Health, and dozens of others, followed by instructions > for > requesting BMD certs...which I don't need, in this instance. Has anyone > else > encountered this, and if so, what did you do next? > > Thanks, > Judi > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > [2]http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [3][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: [4]http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ 3. mailto:[email protected] 4. http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ 5. mailto:[email protected]

So sorry! I was sending that to my house to get the address for Kelly :-) Too many things open here. I'll send it in a minute, Kelly! On 04/02/14, judi<[email protected]> wrote: Can you do me a favor? The env from the police (ny) is on the shelf where i keep my calendars. Can you send me the return address? On 04/02/14, Kelly<[1][email protected]> wrote: Hi Judi Would you please share the address you wrote to for police records in NYC? Is there a fee? My great uncle my great uncle Jack Devlin was an NYPD on foot patrolling in Harlem, died young. Family says when he was waked "half of Harlem came down to show their affection " Thanks Kelly On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Judi <[2][email protected]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > I recently requested my 2X great grandfather's records from the NYPD. I > received a very nice response yesterday that a search of their records > turned up nothing, though several state and federal censuses list his > occupation as police, as do city directories and several articles in the > Brooklyn Daily Eagle. He was a patrolman with 20 years' service, and the > Eagle published his retirement announcement. The trouble seems to be that > he > retired in 1892, and "Brooklyn was not consolidated into the municipality > of > NYC" until 1898. Documents from that period are not maintained within the > NYCPD for that reason. > > They included pages of options as to what to do next - including Municipal > Archives, Dept of Health, and dozens of others, followed by instructions > for > requesting BMD certs...which I don't need, in this instance. Has anyone > else > encountered this, and if so, what did you do next? > > Thanks, > Judi > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > [3]http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [4][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: [5]http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [6][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. mailto:[email protected] 3. http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ 4. mailto:[email protected] 5. http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ 6. mailto:[email protected]

Can you do me a favor? The env from the police (ny) is on the shelf where i keep my calendars. Can you send me the return address? On 04/02/14, Kelly<[email protected]> wrote: Hi Judi Would you please share the address you wrote to for police records in NYC? Is there a fee? My great uncle my great uncle Jack Devlin was an NYPD on foot patrolling in Harlem, died young. Family says when he was waked "half of Harlem came down to show their affection " Thanks Kelly On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 6:45 AM, Judi <[1][email protected]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > I recently requested my 2X great grandfather's records from the NYPD. I > received a very nice response yesterday that a search of their records > turned up nothing, though several state and federal censuses list his > occupation as police, as do city directories and several articles in the > Brooklyn Daily Eagle. He was a patrolman with 20 years' service, and the > Eagle published his retirement announcement. The trouble seems to be that > he > retired in 1892, and "Brooklyn was not consolidated into the municipality > of > NYC" until 1898. Documents from that period are not maintained within the > NYCPD for that reason. > > They included pages of options as to what to do next - including Municipal > Archives, Dept of Health, and dozens of others, followed by instructions > for > requesting BMD certs...which I don't need, in this instance. Has anyone > else > encountered this, and if so, what did you do next? > > Thanks, > Judi > > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > [2]http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [3][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: [4]http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5][email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:[email protected] 2. http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ 3. mailto:[email protected] 4. http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ 5. mailto:[email protected]

Going back a few years, I went to a lecture given by Mr. Sillinonte in one of our Staten Island libraries, and found him to be a very self-effacing, quiet gentleman who patiently answered every question in detail. And he got his start by simply "walking the ground" and recording countless tombstones. Jack Langton -----Original Message----- From: VLB <[email protected]> To: mizscarlettny <[email protected]>; NY-IRISH <[email protected]>; NYBrooklyn <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Apr 1, 2014 5:10 pm Subject: Re: [NY-IRISH] surname with capital "G" A very good tip. His book, Bishop Loughlin's Dispensations, is a treasure trove. The diocesan archivist said Mr Silinonte had compiled volume 2 but died suddenly and no one knows what happened to it. A real shame for us and for him after all that work. Virginia ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2014 4:21 PM Subject: surname with capital "G" Dear Friends, It's difficult to believe that noted NYC Genealogist, author, and Brooklynite Joseph Silinonte passed away in May 2004, but his work lives on. While cleaning out old emails today, I found one where Mr Silinonte notes that when researching an Irish, handwritten surname beginning with Mc G*, the "G" looked like a "P", whereas I've suggested an "S." This may be just the clue someone needs.

All good ideas. I will follow up, thank you! From: Kathleen Scarlett O'Hara Naylor [mailto:[email protected]] Hi Judi, If you don't have any luck with Brooklyn Historical, you can also try the Brooklyn Collection at the Brooklyn Public Library: http://www.bklynpubliclibrary.org/brooklyncollection. Also, have you searched the catalogs at the Brooklyn Historical Society, Brooklyn Public Library, New York Public Library, and New-York Historical Society? While they don't seem to have anything like employment records, there are a couple of titles that might interest you, including things like Brooklyn's Guardians: a record of the faithful and heroic men who preserve the peace in the city of homes by William E.S. Fales (1887) and the Annual Report of the Department of Police and Excise of the City of Brooklyn for years in the 1880s-1890s. I have no idea what, if anything, you might find to be of use in these, but you never know if something is going to list officers by name, or refer to other records that exist(ed), etc. to lead you in a promising direction. Katie