I am writing this for help from those that have Ancestry or are experience with it. I found a family tree on it today that had their McEntee family in the 1850 US census in Wyoming and the connected it with my Troy McEntee family, ignoring some of my date and documentation. I would like to contact the person who put the tree on Ancestry to compare notes. Does anyone know how? I spent hours trying to find out how to write them but never did find a way. Thanks, in advance, for you help, Pat -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com [email protected]

I found the Select Catholic BMD registers several months ago, a gold mine! I found several Murphy's that I was looking for and a few other surnames. One thing to be aware of, there are BMD registers listed for the parish of Donaghmore in Co. Donegal. This is a mistake!! The parish IS Donaghmore, but in Co. Tyrone. I know this for a fact since my ancestors lived in Co. Tyrone Also if you look up the townlands you'll see that they are in Tyrone. Other than that, it's great that these registers are online! Ally -------Original Message------- From: mizscarlettny via Date: 9/10/2014 12:56:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NY-IRISH] IMPT> Irish Cathoic Marriage Register on Ancestry Dear Friends, You may be interested in these real live Catholic Marriages on Ancestry. All of the information is cut and pasted from their site. I'm viewing unbelievably old marriages from Armagh, with paper that appears to be more like woven cloth, with distinct interweaving. Add to this pen and ink handwriting, and this is rough to transcribe. Barb Search > Birth, Marriage & Death Ireland, Select Catholic Marriage Registers, 1775-1912 Source Information Ancestry.com. Ireland, Select Catholic Marriage Registers, 1775-1912 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014. Original data: Celtic Catholic Registers. Digitized images. Dublin, Ireland: E-Celtic, Limited. About Ireland, Select Catholic Marriage Registers, 1775-1912 This collection includes Catholic marriage registers from 62 parishes in Ireland, with dates ranging from 1775 to 1912 (noninclusive; coverage will vary by parish). The details found in marriage registers vary but can include: names of bride and groom residences of bride and groom parents’ names parents’ residences marriage banns any impediments to the marriage (e.g., consanguinity, age, previous marriage etc.) marriage date name of officiant names of witnesses and their residences Although the Church of Ireland was the established state church from 1536 to 1870, Ireland’s population remained overwhelmingly Roman Catholic. According to the 1861 census, almost 78 percent of the population was Catholic; by 1891, this had risen to 89 percent. This fact makes Catholic parish registers, where available, particularly valuable sources for Irish family history, both before and after civil registration began in 1864. Registers from the following parishes are included in this collection: Addergoole Allen Annacarty Armagh Aughrim Backs Ballina (Ardnaree) Ballina (Kilmoremoy) Ballinakill Ballon and Rathoe Ballyadams Ballybricken Ballycastle Ballyconneely Ballyfin Baltinglass Bangor Erris Caherlistrane (Donaghpatrick and Kilcooney) Canice's (Finglas and St Margaret) Cappawhite Carlingford Carlingford and Omeath Carnaross Castleconnor Clifden Cooley Crossmolina Darver Donaghmore Easkey Emly Golden and Kilpack Inishboffin Kilcommon Erris Kilcurry (Faughart) Kilglass Kill Killala Killursa Knockbridge Knockmore and Rathduff Lackagh Lacken Louisburgh Louisburgh (Kilgeever) Louth Magherafelt Malahide Mountrath Moy Moy (Clonfeacle) Naas Portlaoise (Maryborough) Rathvilly Skreen and Dromard Solohead Summerhill Termonmaguirc Tinryland Tourlestrane Tourlestrane (Kilmactigue) Tullow See our Latin glossary for help with some terms found in these records ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Friends, You may be interested in these real live Catholic Marriages on Ancestry. All of the information is cut and pasted from their site. I'm viewing unbelievably old marriages from Armagh, with paper that appears to be more like woven cloth, with distinct interweaving. Add to this pen and ink handwriting, and this is rough to transcribe. Barb Search > Birth, Marriage & Death Ireland, Select Catholic Marriage Registers, 1775-1912 Source Information Ancestry.com. Ireland, Select Catholic Marriage Registers, 1775-1912 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014. Original data: Celtic Catholic Registers. Digitized images. Dublin, Ireland: E-Celtic, Limited. About Ireland, Select Catholic Marriage Registers, 1775-1912 This collection includes Catholic marriage registers from 62 parishes in Ireland, with dates ranging from 1775 to 1912 (noninclusive; coverage will vary by parish). The details found in marriage registers vary but can include: names of bride and groom residences of bride and groom parents’ names parents’ residences marriage banns any impediments to the marriage (e.g., consanguinity, age, previous marriage, etc.) marriage date name of officiant names of witnesses and their residences Although the Church of Ireland was the established state church from 1536 to 1870, Ireland’s population remained overwhelmingly Roman Catholic. According to the 1861 census, almost 78 percent of the population was Catholic; by 1891, this had risen to 89 percent. This fact makes Catholic parish registers, where available, particularly valuable sources for Irish family history, both before and after civil registration began in 1864. Registers from the following parishes are included in this collection: Addergoole Allen Annacarty Armagh Aughrim Backs Ballina (Ardnaree) Ballina (Kilmoremoy) Ballinakill Ballon and Rathoe Ballyadams Ballybricken Ballycastle Ballyconneely Ballyfin Baltinglass Bangor Erris Caherlistrane (Donaghpatrick and Kilcooney) Canice's (Finglas and St Margaret) Cappawhite Carlingford Carlingford and Omeath Carnaross Castleconnor Clifden Cooley Crossmolina Darver Donaghmore Easkey Emly Golden and Kilpack Inishboffin Kilcommon Erris Kilcurry (Faughart) Kilglass Kill Killala Killursa Knockbridge Knockmore and Rathduff Lackagh Lacken Louisburgh Louisburgh (Kilgeever) Louth Magherafelt Malahide Mountrath Moy Moy (Clonfeacle) Naas Portlaoise (Maryborough) Rathvilly Skreen and Dromard Solohead Summerhill Termonmaguirc Tinryland Tourlestrane Tourlestrane (Kilmactigue) Tullow See our Latin glossary for help with some terms found in these records

Good work, Joyce. On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Joyce Presnall via <[email protected]> wrote: > I just got a call from Ellis Island and they assured me they are listening > to what we have to say and will make changes as fast as they can. If you > are on Facebook you can go to the Ellis Island page and post what issues > you see so they can get everything fixed. > > They WANT us to put the site through the paces and try to identify > problems we find and post them on Facebook. > > Please pass this on to all the lists you are on. > > They know the search function is not working well right now and are working > on that. They are also going to make the "list" function (rather than the > "postcard" view) easier to find. > > Unfortunately any people you saved before 2010 are gone...they don't have > room to store it all. > > They had thought that our email addies and sign in info had previously been > brought over, but found out they were not...but it will get transferred > over. > > Unfortunately I now have a crazy website assigned password and can find no > way to change it... > > So the good news is they are listening...the bad news is they are not going > to give up this new website and the changes that make it not very user > friendly. They were advised to combine 4 websites into one which is a big > part of why the site is so confusing now. > > They know the pages on documents are showing up in reverse order and > apparently there is nothing they can do to fix that either. > > I am just glad I found most my folks before these changes, but I do have > one person I am trying to find now and don't know if I ever will the way > things are going... > > This may just be one website I don't use at all anymore...but I did not use > it a lot before...But I have one person now I am trying to find and these > new changes are slowing me down a lot. :-( > > Have a good day and I hope everyone gets pro-active with posting > facebook--that seems to be the best way to contact them right now. > > Joyce > > -- > Researching Stephenson/Stevenson, Fleury, Heald, Lindelof, Young, Rubino, > Cammarota, Mandracchia, Vaiarelli, Mulhern, Johnson, Haight, Erickson, > Munson, Northrup, Sears, Camp, Gunn, Allen, Gorham, Plumb, Beard, Rogers, > Eliot, Briscoe, Bradley, Mix, Wilmot, Pritchard, Mew, Stone, Sparke, > Bayley, Bailey, Redfield, Redfin, Howland, Tilley, Sturgis, Hinckley, Kirk, > Norton, Gerard, and many more... > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com [email protected]

These are the Cemeteries of County Kildare> http://kildare.co/Kildare-Graveyards-by-Parish.asp Barb

I just got a call from Ellis Island and they assured me they are listening to what we have to say and will make changes as fast as they can. If you are on Facebook you can go to the Ellis Island page and post what issues you see so they can get everything fixed. They WANT us to put the site through the paces and try to identify problems we find and post them on Facebook. Please pass this on to all the lists you are on. They know the search function is not working well right now and are working on that. They are also going to make the "list" function (rather than the "postcard" view) easier to find. Unfortunately any people you saved before 2010 are gone...they don't have room to store it all. They had thought that our email addies and sign in info had previously been brought over, but found out they were not...but it will get transferred over. Unfortunately I now have a crazy website assigned password and can find no way to change it... So the good news is they are listening...the bad news is they are not going to give up this new website and the changes that make it not very user friendly. They were advised to combine 4 websites into one which is a big part of why the site is so confusing now. They know the pages on documents are showing up in reverse order and apparently there is nothing they can do to fix that either. I am just glad I found most my folks before these changes, but I do have one person I am trying to find now and don't know if I ever will the way things are going... This may just be one website I don't use at all anymore...but I did not use it a lot before...But I have one person now I am trying to find and these new changes are slowing me down a lot. :-( Have a good day and I hope everyone gets pro-active with posting facebook--that seems to be the best way to contact them right now. Joyce -- Researching Stephenson/Stevenson, Fleury, Heald, Lindelof, Young, Rubino, Cammarota, Mandracchia, Vaiarelli, Mulhern, Johnson, Haight, Erickson, Munson, Northrup, Sears, Camp, Gunn, Allen, Gorham, Plumb, Beard, Rogers, Eliot, Briscoe, Bradley, Mix, Wilmot, Pritchard, Mew, Stone, Sparke, Bayley, Bailey, Redfield, Redfin, Howland, Tilley, Sturgis, Hinckley, Kirk, Norton, Gerard, and many more...

This is an interesting site in that it basically covers gravestone inscriptions from India but they also include Ireland. They have an easy index and the info you get are the names and the places, no pictures but if can give you an idea where the name is found if you are like me and still looking for my McEntees. Also, if you find a name that could be your family, it gives you a place to start searching (Griffith's Valuations, Tithes, etc.) http://kabristan.org.uk/kabristan-indexes/ireland-indexes -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com [email protected]

Thank you very much, Terry. Barb -----Original Message----- From: Terry Bora <[email protected]> To: 'mizscarlettny' <[email protected]>; ny-irish <[email protected]>; NYNEWYOR <[email protected]>; NYBrooklyn <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Sep 8, 2014 2:18 pm Subject: RE: [NY-IRISH] Ntional Cemeteries for Veterans ???? Barb, here's a bit of what I found: HISTORICAL INFORMATION Calverton National Cemetery is located in eastern Long Island between the towns of Manorville and Riverhead in Suffolk County. When the National Cemetery System constructed Calverton National Cemetery in 1978, the cemetery became the third national cemetery to be located on Long Island. The other national cemeteries situated on Long Island are Cypress Hills National Cemetery, in Brooklyn, N.Y., which was established in 1862 and Long Island National Cemetery, in Farmingdale, N.Y., established in 1936. Terry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mizscarlettny via Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 2:05 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [NY-IRISH] Ntional Cemeteries for Veterans ???? Dear Friends, I found the site for the National Cemeteries Administration but cannot find the date that NY cemeteries opened for burials. Does anyone know about Calverton, Long Island National, Cypress Hills Albany Rural Appreciate any leads. Barb

Barb, here's the Albany Rural info. There's more at the site than what I copied & pasted below. http://www.cem.va.gov/cems/lots/albany_rural.asp HISTORICAL INFORMATION Albany Rural Cemetery is located in the city of Albany, New York, on an elevated plateau overlooking the Hudson River. The cemetery was established as a result of a public reaction to overcrowded and deteriorating church burial grounds in the state's capital. The citizens sought a "rural cemetery" outside the city proper, which was incorporated on April 2, 1841. Albany Rural, true to its name, opened Oct. 7, 1844, and it remains one of the oldest examples of this style of picturesque cemeteries in the country. The cemetery, now 467 acres, is the last resting place for the 21st U.S. president, Chester Arthur, along with legions of national and state politicians. Terry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mizscarlettny via Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 2:05 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [NY-IRISH] Ntional Cemeteries for Veterans ???? Dear Friends, I found the site for the National Cemeteries Administration but cannot find the date that NY cemeteries opened for burials. Does anyone know about Calverton, Long Island National, Cypress Hills Albany Rural Appreciate any leads. Barb

Barb, I meant to enclose the website where I located this info. http://www.cem.va.gov/cems/nchp/calverton.asp Terry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mizscarlettny via Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 2:05 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [NY-IRISH] Ntional Cemeteries for Veterans ???? Dear Friends, I found the site for the National Cemeteries Administration but cannot find the date that NY cemeteries opened for burials. Does anyone know about Calverton, Long Island National, Cypress Hills Albany Rural Appreciate any leads. Barb

Barb, here's a bit of what I found: HISTORICAL INFORMATION Calverton National Cemetery is located in eastern Long Island between the towns of Manorville and Riverhead in Suffolk County. When the National Cemetery System constructed Calverton National Cemetery in 1978, the cemetery became the third national cemetery to be located on Long Island. The other national cemeteries situated on Long Island are Cypress Hills National Cemetery, in Brooklyn, N.Y., which was established in 1862 and Long Island National Cemetery, in Farmingdale, N.Y., established in 1936. Terry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of mizscarlettny via Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 2:05 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [NY-IRISH] Ntional Cemeteries for Veterans ???? Dear Friends, I found the site for the National Cemeteries Administration but cannot find the date that NY cemeteries opened for burials. Does anyone know about Calverton, Long Island National, Cypress Hills Albany Rural Appreciate any leads. Barb

Dear Friends, I found the site for the National Cemeteries Administration but cannot find the date that NY cemeteries opened for burials. Does anyone know about Calverton, Long Island National, Cypress Hills Albany Rural Appreciate any leads. Barb

Great point, Diane. Obviously they did not look at other models. I found some ships manifests on Olive Tree, but all the ads on it make it hard to follow. Great info there though. Barb -----Original Message----- From: Diane Jacobs [email protected] If they had checked with http://www.stevemorse.org they would have seen what a wonderful searchable database is. Here you can search many ways which added to your chances of you Finding the manifest you were looking for and to find others that You did not know were your family. Diane Jacobs

The comments are there, you need to look on left and pull up posts to page Joyce On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Pat Connors via <[email protected]> wrote: > I also suggest that if any are on FaceBook, to go to the Ellis Island page > and declare your upset over the new website. I did so yesterday and in no > time I had 'likes' and comments. I checked this morning and they have > removed mine and other posts that were also upset with the new website. > The Facebook has a more public view then our lists so maybe if those with > FB accounts also register their dismay, they will change the website faster > than Eastman suggests. Here is where you can find the site: The Statue of > Liberty-Ellis Island Foundation, Inc. They are still soliciting. 'Tell > people what you think'. But only have 3 comments all favorable. > > > > > Eventually tweaks will be made to this mess, but it's going to take > > time. And nothing will happen until we yell. I am asking my Genealogy > > Group to sign letter from the group, in addition to sending there own > > personal objections. > > > > > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > [email protected] > ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== > Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, > check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Researching Stephenson/Stevenson, Fleury, Heald, Lindelof, Young, Rubino, Cammarota, Mandracchia, Vaiarelli, Mulhern, Johnson, Haight, Erickson, Munson, Northrup, Sears, Camp, Gunn, Allen, Gorham, Plumb, Beard, Rogers, Eliot, Briscoe, Bradley, Mix, Wilmot, Pritchard, Mew, Stone, Sparke, Bayley, Bailey, Redfield, Redfin, Howland, Tilley, Sturgis, Hinckley, Kirk, Norton, Gerard, and many more...

I also suggest that if any are on FaceBook, to go to the Ellis Island page and declare your upset over the new website. I did so yesterday and in no time I had 'likes' and comments. I checked this morning and they have removed mine and other posts that were also upset with the new website. The Facebook has a more public view then our lists so maybe if those with FB accounts also register their dismay, they will change the website faster than Eastman suggests. Here is where you can find the site: The Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Foundation, Inc. They are still soliciting. 'Tell people what you think'. But only have 3 comments all favorable. > Eventually tweaks will be made to this mess, but it's going to take > time. And nothing will happen until we yell. I am asking my Genealogy > Group to sign letter from the group, in addition to sending there own > personal objections. > > -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com [email protected]

Thank you for pointing out the list view option, that was the "missing feature" that was most upsetting to me...but I have to say I still don't like the new site. Joyce On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Mary D. Taffet <[email protected]> wrote: > Joyce & Barb, > > I think some of the functionality you are missing may still be there. I > was able to get a list of all passengers with the last name "Taffet" for > instance. > > I went to "Passenger Search", entered a last name, and then clicked on the > right arrow to perform the search. The list came up, though I had to click > on the little icon indicating that I wanted to see a list view instead of > the larger horizontal icon view it starts with. > > I clicked first on the Passenger Record for one of the names in the list. > At that point I had to create a new account. It might be that if I had > used the correct email address with the "Forgot your Password" link, it > would have recognized me but then told me I needed to create a new > password. Anyways, once I created the new account, I was able to view the > passenger record, and from there I could view the manifest. True the > manifest enlarger is no longer there, but it is incorporated into the page > that shows you the manifest. Putting your mouse over the manifest image > will enlarge it right there in front of you, though you do have to be > careful to not scroll too fast with your mouse. You can save the image to > your profile, but I haven't investigated that function yet. > > If you want to do some filtering of your results list, just click on the > little filter funnel, which brings up several different types of filtering > that you can do (Contains, Exact Matches, Close Matches, Sounds Like, > Alternate Spellings, and Last Name as First). I don't see a way to do true > wild card searching (like "T*f*t" for example), but I haven't used the site > directly in so long that I don't recall if that type of functionality was > ever there to begin with. > > Steve Morse's search tools (stevemorse.org) will still take you to the > page with the passenger you want on it. If you find his search tools > easier to use, you might want to make his search page your front end for > the Ellis Island site. > > -- Mary > > > > > On 9/7/2014 5:31 PM, Joyce Presnall via wrote: > >> The biggest problem I see (although I see many) is that you can no longer >> get a list by last name and where they are from...often that is our >> biggest >> clue as to who other family members are. Additionally, you cannot use >> your >> "back browser" to view something you just looked at...it tells you the >> image has expired and you need to start your search over. >> >> I read on Facebook that they are going to move over who is saved in your >> file BUT from now on those saved files will only stay there 30 days...so >> if >> you don't do something with that file in 30 days, POOF it is gone and you >> have to start your search all over again...so they are trying to force you >> "buy the image this month or you will lose it" >> >> I don't see any option for wildcard searches.... >> >> But to ME not being able to see a list of 25-100 ppl at one time is the >> biggest drawback...THAT is your biggest clue as to who family members may >> be... >> >> Ugh they have messed up so many things it is hard to know which ones are >> the worst... >> >> They have 20 something year old kids designing something that 60-80+ year >> old people are trying to use. Their search options were fine before--yes >> some things needed improvement but those improvements were minor. >> >> If they wanted to throw a bunch of money at the wall, they should have >> looked over records for transcription errors...sure the old site wasn't >> ideal, and a few things could have been improved, but they threw the baby >> out with the bathwater and the things that WERE good about the site are >> gone. >> >> There was a LOT more flexibility for searching the way the site used to be >> set up...It is quite clear they got NO input from the "user group"...The >> COULD have done a mass email to all who are registered on the site and ask >> about what changes people wanted to see...instead they got a bunch of IT >> guys who don't know anything about genealogy, and made the site pretty >> instead of functional...They should have put functionality first and they >> didn't. >> >> The primary reason they did the change to the way we see manifests is they >> did not want people copying the info via snipping tools...but the control >> over moving those passenger lists around is so imprecise that it is >> difficult to keep focused on the lines you are trying to follow to get the >> details on that person... >> >> Did they REALLY think this is going to make more people order copies from >> them for manifests? It is not. The plain truth is they are too >> expensive. People are just going to write down what they might have >> snipped a copy of before... >> >> They messed up so much stuff it is crazy...I have yet to talk to one >> person >> who likes the changes...they took a lot of our ability to research in a >> sane, organized manner away...this is a ship run amuck for sure... >> >> Joyce >> > -- Researching Stephenson/Stevenson, Fleury, Heald, Lindelof, Young, Rubino, Cammarota, Mandracchia, Vaiarelli, Mulhern, Johnson, Haight, Erickson, Munson, Northrup, Sears, Camp, Gunn, Allen, Gorham, Plumb, Beard, Rogers, Eliot, Briscoe, Bradley, Mix, Wilmot, Pritchard, Mew, Stone, Sparke, Bayley, Bailey, Redfield, Redfin, Howland, Tilley, Sturgis, Hinckley, Kirk, Norton, Gerard, and many more...

Well, I am still flailing around with this thing. I took the tip of a lister whose name I unfortunately cannot credit and found that there is a way to scroll through the manifest as we used to be able to do. However, you can't stay long as the earlier images you were looking at time out in about 2or 3 minutes! No use trying to establish if Willie came over with his cousin down the boreen. Read Dick Eastman's recent newsletter. He refers to a "redesigned" web site he has been made aware of ( which he discreetly does not name ) and describes perfectly what will happen to Ellis Island's site. Essentially, it is a business model that is a complete failure with a well established history in the business of computer programming. This kind of thing happens all the time to banks, schools and libraries. Some salesman sells the management an idea about updating a particular service. Of course he/she has a interest, he/she recommends a provider, a group of "really smart and sharp young guys and gals, just out of school" who will save you from yourself. For a fee. Then the nightmare begins. It usually takes a year before anything improves and then only because the enterprise notices that both traffic and cash have stopped dead. Eventually tweaks will be made to this mess, but it's going to take time. And nothing will happen until we yell. I am asking my Genealogy Group to sign letter from the group, in addition to sending there own personal objections. Sheila Santa Barbara CA

On Sunday, September 14th at 2pm "Hudson River Brick Makers" 1870-1920 boom The Hudson River Valley was the largest brick making center in the world. The Peekskill Museum http://peekskillmuseum.org/ 124 Union Avenue, Peekskill, New York 10566 914-736-0473 Guest Speaker: Jim Ormond will host a program titled with guest speaker Jim Ormond, who said in a recent interview, "In the boom years, there were more than 130 brick yards along the Hudson. The last yard closed quietly in 2002. I hope people understand how the 12 hour days of the brick workers contributed to the growth of New York City and the Hudson River Valley. In the early years especially, before automation, it was back breaking labor. The brick yards are gone, but the many brick buildings in metropolitan New York stand as silent witnesses to this important industry. " Of the thousands of brickyard employees, an inordinate number were Irish immigrants to Verplanck, Kings Ferry, Buchanan, Montrose, Croton, and the Peekskill areas of Westchester County, as well as town along the Hudson River in Rockland County. The collateral industries which benefitted from the brickmaking days involved river dayliners, shipping, amusement parks, shipping, railroad and even churches.

Dear Friends, If you have not returned to research at the Ellis Island site in a while, 'tis time to test the waters to *really* understand what we're beefin' about, and it ain't the hot dogs! It's proper, present day handle is (Trumpets!) ta-da> T H E S T A T U E of L I B E R T Y - E L L I S I S L A N D F O U N D A T I O N, INC.* http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/ Ah ha, methinks the INC* is the rub, besides BETA search. What it has? Humungous picture book style photos, corporate milieu aka sausage-stuffing discards, more pics of nameless faces, links to purchase trinkets and tickets [to Liberty's crown = extra; once upon a time not], colorized timelines & visual effects, WEBCAMS, more frou frou, linked into vanity sites, FB etc Disney and Spielberg What it doesn't have? 1) Your account or your file. Yup, you have to begin anew. 2) It does not have USER FRIENDLY access to the ships' manifests to search by SURNAME only. NOTE: This is what family re-searchers do, Designers, search. We view whole manifests in search of matching surnames, finding other ancestors on board. Now, that's impossible. AND, Ships' Manifests were the heart of EllisIsland.org, as such, legally documenting arrivals of non citizens. 3) The design hand doesn't know what the genealogy hand needs. No professional sourcing here. Rootsweb is the largest participant- genealogy based group, and no IT pro, or designer was gracious enough to ask for input or inform us that changes were in the works? Gene-logically speaking, Barb

The biggest problem I see (although I see many) is that you can no longer get a list by last name and where they are from...often that is our biggest clue as to who other family members are. Additionally, you cannot use your "back browser" to view something you just looked at...it tells you the image has expired and you need to start your search over. I read on Facebook that they are going to move over who is saved in your file BUT from now on those saved files will only stay there 30 days...so if you don't do something with that file in 30 days, POOF it is gone and you have to start your search all over again...so they are trying to force you "buy the image this month or you will lose it" I don't see any option for wildcard searches.... But to ME not being able to see a list of 25-100 ppl at one time is the biggest drawback...THAT is your biggest clue as to who family members may be... Ugh they have messed up so many things it is hard to know which ones are the worst... They have 20 something year old kids designing something that 60-80+ year old people are trying to use. Their search options were fine before--yes some things needed improvement but those improvements were minor. If they wanted to throw a bunch of money at the wall, they should have looked over records for transcription errors...sure the old site wasn't ideal, and a few things could have been improved, but they threw the baby out with the bathwater and the things that WERE good about the site are gone. There was a LOT more flexibility for searching the way the site used to be set up...It is quite clear they got NO input from the "user group"...The COULD have done a mass email to all who are registered on the site and ask about what changes people wanted to see...instead they got a bunch of IT guys who don't know anything about genealogy, and made the site pretty instead of functional...They should have put functionality first and they didn't. The primary reason they did the change to the way we see manifests is they did not want people copying the info via snipping tools...but the control over moving those passenger lists around is so imprecise that it is difficult to keep focused on the lines you are trying to follow to get the details on that person... Did they REALLY think this is going to make more people order copies from them for manifests? It is not. The plain truth is they are too expensive. People are just going to write down what they might have snipped a copy of before... They messed up so much stuff it is crazy...I have yet to talk to one person who likes the changes...they took a lot of our ability to research in a sane, organized manner away...this is a ship run amuck for sure... Joyce On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 1:53 PM, mizscarlettny via <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > If you have not returned to research at the Ellis Island site in a while, > 'tis time to test the waters to *really* understand what we're beefin' > about, > and it ain't the hot dogs! > > It's proper, present day handle is (Trumpets!) ta-da> > > T H E S T A T U E of L I B E R T Y - E L L I S I S L A N D F O U > N D A T I O N, INC.* > http://www.libertyellisfoundation.org/ > > Ah ha, methinks the INC* is the rub, besides BETA search. > > What it has? > > Humungous picture book style photos, corporate milieu aka sausage-stuffing > discards, more pics of nameless faces, > links to purchase trinkets and tickets [to Liberty's crown = extra; once > upon a time not], colorized timelines & visual effects, > WEBCAMS, more frou frou, linked into vanity sites, FB etc Disney and > Spielberg > > What it doesn't have? > > 1) Your account or your file. Yup, you have to begin anew. > > 2) It does not have USER FRIENDLY access to the ships' manifests to search > by SURNAME only. > > NOTE: This is what family re-searchers do, Designers, search. We view > whole manifests in search of matching surnames, > finding other ancestors on board. Now, that's impossible. > > AND, Ships' Manifests were the heart of EllisIsland.org, as such, legally > documenting arrivals of non citizens. > > 3) The design hand doesn't know what the genealogy hand needs. No > professional sourcing here. > > Rootsweb is the largest participant- genealogy based group, and no IT pro, > or designer was gracious enough to ask for input or > inform us that changes were in the works? > > Gene-logically speaking, > > Barb > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Researching Stephenson/Stevenson, Fleury, Heald, Lindelof, Young, Rubino, Cammarota, Mandracchia, Vaiarelli, Mulhern, Johnson, Haight, Erickson, Munson, Northrup, Sears, Camp, Gunn, Allen, Gorham, Plumb, Beard, Rogers, Eliot, Briscoe, Bradley, Mix, Wilmot, Pritchard, Mew, Stone, Sparke, Bayley, Bailey, Redfield, Redfin, Howland, Tilley, Sturgis, Hinckley, Kirk, Norton, Gerard, and many more...