> One problem here, though-- I'm not sure the fiche goes up as far as > the 1950s. Maybe someone can tell Linda the dates it covers? Here's what the Vital Records section of the NYS Health Dept website says: Vital records registration started in New York State outside of New York City in 1881. Generally, the New York State Department of Health provides uncertified copies of the following types of records for genealogy research purposes: * Birth certificates - if on file for at least 75 years and the person whose name is on the birth certificate is known to be deceased. * Death certificates - if on file for at least 50 years. * Marriage certificates - if on file for at least 50 years and the bride and groom are both known to be deceased. I would imagine the fiche covers the years and guidelines as stated above. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

In a message dated 2/24/03 1:02:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, NY-HUDSONRV-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > Anyway, it's arranged by year and then alphabetically by surname, then given > name. With > the fiche, it's really quick and easy. It gives you the date of death, the > locality in > which the death cert. was issued and the death cert. number. > Hi Joy - That info is very helpful!!! :) Once I locate these indexes it should be easy to find the missing Grandfather. I know he died in the 1950's. His last name is Wallhead. There aren't that many Wallheads in NY so the searching should go along pretty quickly. THANKS for your info!!! :) Linda In a message dated 2/24/03 1:02:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, NY-HUDSONRV-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > The New York State Vital Records microfiche are available to be searched at: > > The NY State Archives in Albany, NY > The Rundell Library in Rochester, NY > The Syracuse Library in Syracuse, NY > > These are the only places that I know about. > Hi Lanah - that's great news! :) I'm only 2 hours from Syracuse so a trip there is very possible. Thanks for your help! Linda

> FYI. MSN has been bouncing all of Rootsweb mail for a week now. > When this happens, the computer will automatically unsub an email address > after three bounces. Rootweb has been trying to deal with MSN but > they are unresponsive. There also may be a problem with Hotmail. Hi Pat, It has also been happening to me on Juno; with some rootsweb lists, but not all. Peggy ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com

For AOL folks particularly: if you are not receiving expected messages, it may be a problem with the way you have your mail settings set up in an effort to avoid receiving the spam. AOL has a setting that makes it so that you can only receive messages from people you have sent messages to. Since you have NOT sent a message to everyone on this group or other groups you may belong to, posts from those groups are not recognized as coming from someone you know. Hence, you don't get them. Another situation where you won't get expected mail is when you fill out a form on a website. AOL's mail filter will not recognize the address of the person you were sending the form to, and will bounce their response to you. My advice: don't use on AOL mail filter if you want to receive mail from e-groups like this one, or want to be able to get responses from forms you fill out on the web. Rely instead on your "delete" key. Geoff Brown Between the Lakes Group -----Original Message----- From: LanahDe@aol.com [mailto:LanahDe@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 3:13 PM To: NY-HUDSONRV-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HudsonRV] ADMIN MSG I guess the Rootsweb people will have to use the same system that all the sexual junk mail uses and all the other junk trying to be sold to you and all their messages will come thru just fine. I use AOL and all of a sudden I wasn't getting my newsletter's from Ancestry.com or my newsletter from Dick Eastman which I pay for!! Lanah

I guess the Rootsweb people will have to use the same system that all the sexual junk mail uses and all the other junk trying to be sold to you and all their messages will come thru just fine. I use AOL and all of a sudden I wasn't getting my newsletter's from Ancestry.com or my newsletter from Dick Eastman which I pay for!! Lanah

> > >I use AOL and all of a sudden I wasn't getting my newsletter's from Ancestry.com or my newsletter from Dick Eastman which I pay for!! > I have heard from many AOL users about this problem. Isn't it funny how they can't seem to block the junk you keep on getting that you don't want! -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

As many may or may not know, for the past week, MSN has not accepted mail from Rootsweb and as a result many of our regular posters have been dropped from the subscription lists. In checking my lists, I note that the Digest subbers are the only MSNs left since they receive less mail. Rootsweb has aggressively tried to resolve this issue but MSN has been totally unresponsive. I am hoping that the many MSN subbers that have been dropped are reading the archives to keep current. If you are, please let me know if you need help finding another provider. I do not suggest Hotmail, however, because they are part of MSN and are subject to the same rules. Yahoo would be my suggestion. I have an account with them and find it a good system. For those of us not using MSN, we will miss our regular subbers till they figure a way around the problem. If they try to post to the list, and they aren't subbed to the list, the post will bounce to me and I'll pass it on to the list. If you need help with your subscription, please email me OFF LIST and I'll do everything I can to help you. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, listowner http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

just checking to see if my email is a mess. Thanks Marlena Feuz Amalfitano mfamalfitano@msn.com fax: 775-239-6394

> > >just checking to see if my email is a mess > FYI. MSN has been bouncing all of Rootsweb mail for a week now. When this happens, the computer will automatically unsub an email address after three bounces. Rootweb has been trying to deal with MSN but they are unresponsive. There also may be a problem with Hotmail. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ny/nyfiles.htm < http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/cortland/wills/dains-henry.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/genesee/wills/baker-johnf.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/adams-arthurr.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/allyn-uretta.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/baxter-thelmaew.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/birch-thomase.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/bryant-kennethl.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/douglas-nancylb.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/edgar-tamathal.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/eisman-lisamarie.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/essom-williaml.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/gasper-nancyec.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/gillette-alma.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/gilmore-georgel.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/ginnegaw-larryg.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/goyette-gordonl.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/goyette-jleon.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/goyette-willard.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/johnson-gertrudemb.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/jugovic-peggyu.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/kenney-genevievef.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/kier-waltera.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/larosa-angelinep.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/lehman-haroldj.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/maginness-annapk.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/matthews-richarda.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/mcgarigle-jamesg.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/mihal-williaml.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/scott-junerg.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/stubbings-jayh.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/sullivan-allane.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/walker-madelinew.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/whelehen-patrickb.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/monroe/obits/williams-dorism.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/oneida/wills/dean-abiel.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/oneida/wills/deans-james.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/ontario/wills/dean-parley.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/orange/wills/dean-john.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/stlawrence/wills/starkey-mary.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/wayne/obits/obitstoc.htm http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/yates/wills/dains-jesse.txt > Got any will, deed, inestate, letters of administration, letters of testamentary, church records, cemetery records, newspaper clippings, bible records, biographies, funeral notices, or funeral cards to share with others? W. David Samuelsen, New York FM/Archivist W. David Samuelsen, FM/Archivist, New York/USGenWeb Archives

The New York State Vital Records microfiche are available to be searched at: The NY State Archives in Albany, NY The Rundell Library in Rochester, NY The Syracuse Library in Syracuse, NY These are the only places that I know about. Lanah

Linda, Others may know more than I do about this. The only places I know for sure have it are the State office in Albany and the National Archives New York City office. It starts in 1881, but I can't recall now how late it goes. I was looking at the 1880s, so I didn't pay much attention. Anyway, it's arranged by year and then alpabetically by surname, then given name. With the fiche, it's really quick and easy. It gives you the date of death, the locality in which the death cert. was issued and the death cert. number. I'd offer to check for you, but I don't get into the City very often, so I don't know when I'd get another chance to check it. Maybe someone who lives in Albany or NYC could do it for you. Joy Linda0828@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/23/03 11:07:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, > NY-HUDSONRV-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > >>I have not only the date of death, but the actual certificate number. I did >>a >>look-up yesterday at the National Archives office in New York City. They >>have fiche of the NY State Index, but not of the certificates. >> > > > Hi Joy - Can you tell me more about the NY State Index? I didn't realize > such a thing existed. How is the info organized? Wonder if it's available > outside the National Archives? For years I've been trying to find death info > on my hubby's Grandfather. I know he died in NY but where and when is still > a big mystery. > > THANKS for your help! :) > > Linda > > > ==== NY-HUDSONRV Mailing List ==== > The NY-HudsonRV Mailing List Website > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/HudsonRV/ > Site good for unsubbing, changing subscription, archives, links, etc. > > -- Do good with what thou hast, or it will do thee no good. WM PENN Outline trees for: HALLOCK, HEAD, PALMER, SELDEN at: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/e/a/Joyce-R-Weaver/ USA (northeast): Burnside, Green, Hallock, Head, Merritt, Morris, Palmer, Selden, Weaver./ CANADA (ON/QC): Brown, Clark, Grant, Weaver./ ENGLAND(Lanc.): Hunt, Wall. POLAND (Krasnik, Zaklikow, Lublin): Blumberg, Fogiel, Rosenel./ BELARUS (Wisoke-Litovsk, Brest, Grodno): Feinberg, Vilner, Greenberg, Petruskitz, Deibach.

In a message dated 2/23/03 11:07:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, NY-HUDSONRV-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: > I have not only the date of death, but the actual certificate number. I did > a > look-up yesterday at the National Archives office in New York City. They > have fiche of the NY State Index, but not of the certificates. > Hi Joy - Can you tell me more about the NY State Index? I didn't realize such a thing existed. How is the info organized? Wonder if it's available outside the National Archives? For years I've been trying to find death info on my hubby's Grandfather. I know he died in NY but where and when is still a big mystery. THANKS for your help! :) Linda

Thanks Ann. I do have the cert. #, but I suspect it might still be quicker from Troy based on some of the responses I've gotten. Joy Annholohan@aol.com wrote: > If you have access to the index, and get the State certificate number, it is > usually turn around mail also. > > > ==== NY-HUDSONRV Mailing List ==== > The NY-HudsonRV Mailing List Website > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/HudsonRV/ > Site good for unsubbing, changing subscription, archives, links, etc. > > -- Do good with what thou hast, or it will do thee no good. WM PENN Outline trees for: HALLOCK, HEAD, PALMER, SELDEN at: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/e/a/Joyce-R-Weaver/ USA (northeast): Burnside, Green, Hallock, Head, Merritt, Morris, Palmer, Selden, Weaver./ CANADA (ON/QC): Brown, Clark, Grant, Weaver./ ENGLAND(Lanc.): Hunt, Wall. POLAND (Krasnik, Zaklikow, Lublin): Blumberg, Fogiel, Rosenel./ BELARUS (Wisoke-Litovsk, Brest, Grodno): Feinberg, Vilner, Greenberg, Petruskitz, Deibach.

If you have access to the index, and get the State certificate number, it is usually turn around mail also.

If you got the information from the index, with the certificate number, then order it from the State. If no certificate number, order it from Troy and pray. Ann

Thank you, Mike. This is what I'd hoped to hear. Joy Mike's AT&T Account wrote: > Hi Joy: > > Yes, my cousin Jeanne Daley had very good success with retrieving a > death certificate from Troy. The Deputy registrar's name is Heather > Holmes in the Troy, NY City Hall, Phone Number: 518-270-4587. My > cousin Jeanne described Heather as a "real doll". Jeanne was very > pleased with the cooperation she received. Cost of the Certificate is $ > 11.00. > > Mike Minahan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joyce Weaver [mailto:joyweave@erols.com] > Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 10:09 AM > To: NY-HUDSONRV-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HudsonRV] Troy, NY death cert > > > Hi folks-- > > Has anyone had experience with ordering a death certificate from the > city of Troy? I > think I found my husband's gggrandfather's second wife's death there in > the state index > and I'm wondering if it makes more sense to try to get the cert. from > Troy than from the > NYS Health Dept. > > Joy Weaver -- Do good with what thou hast, or it will do thee no good. WM PENN Outline trees for: HALLOCK, HEAD, PALMER, SELDEN at: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/e/a/Joyce-R-Weaver/ USA (northeast): Burnside, Green, Hallock, Head, Merritt, Morris, Palmer, Selden, Weaver./ CANADA (ON/QC): Brown, Clark, Grant, Weaver./ ENGLAND(Lanc.): Hunt, Wall. POLAND (Krasnik, Zaklikow, Lublin): Blumberg, Fogiel, Rosenel./ BELARUS (Wisoke-Litovsk, Brest, Grodno): Feinberg, Vilner, Greenberg, Petruskitz, Deibach.

Pat, I have not only the date of death, but the actual certificate number. I did a look-up yesterday at the National Archives office in New York City. They have fiche of the NY State Index, but not of the certificates. Joy Pat Connors wrote: > From what I have heard if you have the date of death it is probably > quicker to order from Troy. I have ordered many and when I had a > specific date, it was basically turn around mail. I have never ordered > from the state, however, but have heard that it sometimes takes six > months or longer. > -- Do good with what thou hast, or it will do thee no good. WM PENN Outline trees for: HALLOCK, HEAD, PALMER, SELDEN at: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/e/a/Joyce-R-Weaver/ USA (northeast): Burnside, Green, Hallock, Head, Merritt, Morris, Palmer, Selden, Weaver./ CANADA (ON/QC): Brown, Clark, Grant, Weaver./ ENGLAND(Lanc.): Hunt, Wall. POLAND (Krasnik, Zaklikow, Lublin): Blumberg, Fogiel, Rosenel./ BELARUS (Wisoke-Litovsk, Brest, Grodno): Feinberg, Vilner, Greenberg, Petruskitz, Deibach.

It's taken me longer than that sometimes. That's why I'm wondering about getting it from Troy directly. Joy Mmmvk1@aol.com wrote: > Joy it takes 4 mo.s to get your reply from Albany. NY > Margaret > > > ==== NY-HUDSONRV Mailing List ==== > The NY-HudsonRV Mailing List Website > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/HudsonRV/ > Site good for unsubbing, changing subscription, archives, links, etc. > > -- Do good with what thou hast, or it will do thee no good. WM PENN Outline trees for: HALLOCK, HEAD, PALMER, SELDEN at: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/e/a/Joyce-R-Weaver/ USA (northeast): Burnside, Green, Hallock, Head, Merritt, Morris, Palmer, Selden, Weaver./ CANADA (ON/QC): Brown, Clark, Grant, Weaver./ ENGLAND(Lanc.): Hunt, Wall. POLAND (Krasnik, Zaklikow, Lublin): Blumberg, Fogiel, Rosenel./ BELARUS (Wisoke-Litovsk, Brest, Grodno): Feinberg, Vilner, Greenberg, Petruskitz, Deibach.

Joy it takes 4 mo.s to get your reply from Albany. NY Margaret