Marita- A family History Center - there are 758 microfilm reels of land transactions for Rensselaer County in the LDS files. Early land transactions may show in Albany county, in Rensselaerwyck Manor records, possibly in Vermont records. You should also be aware that many of the early settlers were tenants rather than owners of land. Many of the early settlers migrated into central and western New York in the 1830's on. If your ancestor inherited the property, probate records may show the acquisition. A deed for the property may have not been recorded until it was sold, if owned, to a nonfamily member. It may have been bounty land for military service. ----- Original Message ----- From: riti Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 4:19 PM To: NY-HUDSONRV-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HudsonRV] Re: NY-HUDSONRV-D Digest V03 #48 Where would one find the early land transactions 1800-1810 of the Renssealer Land, in Berne Township? John Furman is on the 1800-1810 Census for Berne. So where might I find the documents where he received his land and any sales? I haven't been able to find his death information either. Thanks Marita ==== NY-HUDSONRV Mailing List ==== The NY-HudsonRV Mailing List Website http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/HudsonRV/ Site good for unsubbing, changing subscription, archives, links, etc.

Sorry, folks, I'd intended my look-up request to go to Margaret privately. Didn't notice the return address till after I sent it. Joy -- Do good with what thou hast, or it will do thee no good. WM PENN Outline trees for: HALLOCK, HEAD, PALMER, SELDEN at: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/e/a/Joyce-R-Weaver/ USA (northeast): Burnside, Green, Hallock, Head, Merritt, Morris, Palmer, Selden, Weaver./ CANADA (ON/QC): Brown, Clark, Grant, Weaver./ ENGLAND(Lanc.): Hunt, Wall. POLAND (Krasnik, Zaklikow, Lublin): Blumberg, Fogiel, Rosenel./ BELARUS (Wisoke-Litovsk, Brest, Grodno): Feinberg, Vilner, Greenberg, Petruskitz, Deibach.

Margaret, may I impose another look-up task on you? When you get a chance at the Newburgh library, could you check some Street Directories? City of Newburgh: Beginning 1875 and going back in time till he disappears: Joseph GRAF/F or GROF/F Beginning 1855 and going forward in time till 1865: John and Jacob WEAVER (Ignore John R(obinson) Weaver. That's not the one). From 1860 to whenever Joseph Graff shows up: Mary WEAVER. What should show up, but may not, is John or Jacob WEAVER from 1855 to 1860-64, then Mary WEAVER till 1868 when she married Joseph GRAFF. But the first I have on them is the 1875 census. The rest is from a family Bible and I'm not sure they were in Newburgh before that census. Hope that makes sense. And I hope this is not too much to ask. Any of it would be a help. Joy Weaver

Looking for descendants of Thomas Kiernan and Catherine Connors: Children included Stephen b 1883, Catherine b 1888, Margaret b 1890, Ursula b 1892 and Joseph b 1897. Thomas b in Ireland 1851 and Catherine b in Co. Limerick 1856. Their children were all born in Troy NY. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

Troy Record, Thursday, Jan 3, 1929 CONNORS--In this city, Jan. 2, 1929, James Connors, husband of the late Ellen Powers; father of Mrs. Joseph Martel and Peter J. Connors. Funeral from the residence, 4 park Avenue, Saturday morning at 9 o'clock, thence to St. Patrick's Church, whre a requiem high mass will be celebrated. Interment in St. Peter's Cemetery. Friends are invited. Troy Times, Tuesday, February 12, 1929 CONNORS--In Watervliet, NY, February 12, 1929, James H. Connors, husband of Mary M. Leary; father of James B. and Mary Louise Connors of Watervliet; Sister M. Helena of Sisters of Mercy, St. Vincent de Paul of Albany; and Joseph G. Connors of Mechanicville; brother of Mrs. Charles McOmber of Watervliet and John Connors of Geneva NY. Funeral from his late residence, 309 Sixth Street, Friday morning at 9 o'clock and from St. Bridget's Church at 9:30 where a solemn requiem high mass will be sung. Friends are invited. Burial St. Agnes' Cemetery, Albany. Troy Times, Monday, February 18, 1929 O'CONNOR--In this city, February 17, 1929, at the residence, 1636 Fifth Avenue, James P. O'Connor, son of Margaret A. Donnelly and the late John J. Connor. Funeral from the residence Wednesday morning at 9 o'clock, thence to St. Mary's Church, where at 9:30 o'clock a solemn requiem high mass will be sung. Friends are invited. Troy Record, Monday, February 5, 1928 CONNORS--In this City, November 3, 1928, James Connors Sr., husband of the late Mary McEntee, father of Mrs. S.A. Young of Princeton NJ, James T. Jr. and John F. Connors, and brother of Mrs. C. Keirnan of Albany NY. Funeral from the home of John J. O'Neill, 43 Stowe Avenue Tuesday morning at 9 o'clock, thence to St. Michael's Church where a requiem high mass will be sung. Friends may call at the home from 7 to 10 o'clock tonight. Burial in St. Joseph's Cemetery. (this is my ggrandfather, if any of the above names look familiar, I would love to hear from you) CONNOR-In this city, November 3, 1828 at the residence, 865 Seventh Avenue North, Anna J. Wainer, wife of the late Andrew M. Connor, mother of Edward J., Andrew C., Harold G, and Gertrude Connor, Mrs. D.G. Morgan, Jrs. W. Morgan and Mrs Thomas Grailty (?) of Troy, sister of Mrs. Will Brown of Fort Edward, NY. Funeral from the residence Tuesday morning at 8 o'clock thence to St. Augustine's Church at 9:30 o'clock, where a requiem high mass whill be sung. Friends are invited to attend. Burial at St. Mary's Cemetery, Waterford. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

After ten years of work/research, I narrowed my great grandfather's death date down to between 1925-1930 through searching the all censuses of Troy NY from 1905 to 1930. A friend who lives near Albany looked at the fiche in the Archives building (Heath Dept) and found the below: James P. O'Conner, dod Jan 16, 1926, Albany James Connors, November 3, 1928, Troy (mine) James J. O'Connor, May 1, 1928, Watervliet James Connors, January 2, 1929, Troy James H. Conners, February 12, 1929, Watervliet James O'Conner, December 17, 1929, Albany James P. O'Conner, February 17, 1929, Troy James Connors, January 23, 1930, Troy James Connors, November 13, 1930, Watervliet James O'Connor, March 25, 1930, Schenectady It is amazing so many with basically the same name, living in the same area, died within 5 years of each other. Maybe, this info will help someone else besides me. Today I sent away my great grandfather's death certificate which will hopefully give me his parents' names. If so, I will have proof to either validate or negate my assumptions. If not, since I also was sent his obit from the Troy Record, I found a sister living in Albany at the time of his death that I didn't know about. So, I will look for her marriage and death date and send for her records if I need to...and the hunt goes on. Another interesting twist, I found one of my grandfather's brother still alive. Family lore had him dead before 1920. So, need to rethink that one. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

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I agree with Jan, I bought a set of 16 cd's an found nothing other than my dad's soc. sec. #. I was broken hearted after spending some $ 80. margaret N.Y.

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In a message dated 4/11/03 7:17:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nymets11@pacbell.net writes: << http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/troy/troynaturalization.html >> Hi Pat, I'm sure you are very happy having your ancestors naturalization records. It is very touching to see your gggrandfather's signature on his. Do you think it is easy to obtain a record by mail? Thank you. Mary L. Flynn Casey

> > >it is easy to obtain a record by mail? > I am not sure you can obtain a copy of the record by mail but maybe the info in the record would be given to you. But, if you order the film from LDS, you can make a copy of the original record. FYI The records are kept in the Rensselaer County Clerk's off ice in Troy. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

I, too, wonder, though. I have paid subscriptions to both genealogy.com and ancestry.com. Seems like they may need to do something about duplication of services and pro-rating subscription fees. Joy W. David Samuelsen wrote: > They haven't eliminated competiton. > > They still has to deal with ProQuest and LDS Church as well as > the volunteers within various Projects (USGenWeb, WorldGenWeb, > AGHP, etc who are dedicated to keeping records for free access.) > > David Samuelsen > > Pat Connors wrote: > >> PROVO, Utah, April 8 /PRNewswire/ -- MyFamily.com, Inc., a leading online >>subscription business and the leading network for connecting families, and A&E >>Television Networks (AETN) announced today that MyFamily has acquired >>Genealogy.com, producer of the award-winning family tree software, Family Tree >>Maker(R), and provider of extensive online genealogy resources. In addition, >>MyFamily will receive promotion on AETN television properties. >> Genealogy.com joins the MyFamily network of websites -- Ancestry.com, >>MyFamily.com, and RootsWeb.com -- giving customers a full complement of >>Internet services focused on connecting families with their histories and one >>another. Combined, the network of websites receives over 10 million unique >>visitors each month and has more than one million paid subscriptions. >> >>MY NOTE: Seems like they have eliminated the competition. I wonder how this will effect >>us all??? >>

> > >They haven't eliminated competiton. > >They still has to deal with ProQuest and LDS Church as well as >the volunteers within various Projects > Guess I wasn't referring to the free volunteer projects, but to the subscription and cd business. I subscribe to Genealogy.com which I live very much and find it a good product for the cost. To get subbers, both this company and Ancestry when competitors had to offer something different and/or better to get business plus they had to keep their prices competitive...when I was wondering, it was wondering how the merger were effect prices and services. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

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They haven't eliminated competiton. They still has to deal with ProQuest and LDS Church as well as the volunteers within various Projects (USGenWeb, WorldGenWeb, AGHP, etc who are dedicated to keeping records for free access.) David Samuelsen Pat Connors wrote: > > PROVO, Utah, April 8 /PRNewswire/ -- MyFamily.com, Inc., a leading online > subscription business and the leading network for connecting families, and A&E > Television Networks (AETN) announced today that MyFamily has acquired > Genealogy.com, producer of the award-winning family tree software, Family Tree > Maker(R), and provider of extensive online genealogy resources. In addition, > MyFamily will receive promotion on AETN television properties. > Genealogy.com joins the MyFamily network of websites -- Ancestry.com, > MyFamily.com, and RootsWeb.com -- giving customers a full complement of > Internet services focused on connecting families with their histories and one > another. Combined, the network of websites receives over 10 million unique > visitors each month and has more than one million paid subscriptions. > > MY NOTE: Seems like they have eliminated the competition. I wonder how this will effect > us all??? > > -- > Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, listowner > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com > All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002 > > > ==== NY-HUDSONRV Mailing List ==== > The NY-HudsonRV Mailing List Website > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/HudsonRV/ > Site good for unsubbing, changing subscription, archives, links, etc.

PROVO, Utah, April 8 /PRNewswire/ -- MyFamily.com, Inc., a leading online subscription business and the leading network for connecting families, and A&E Television Networks (AETN) announced today that MyFamily has acquired Genealogy.com, producer of the award-winning family tree software, Family Tree Maker(R), and provider of extensive online genealogy resources. In addition, MyFamily will receive promotion on AETN television properties. Genealogy.com joins the MyFamily network of websites -- Ancestry.com, MyFamily.com, and RootsWeb.com -- giving customers a full complement of Internet services focused on connecting families with their histories and one another. Combined, the network of websites receives over 10 million unique visitors each month and has more than one million paid subscriptions. MY NOTE: Seems like they have eliminated the competition. I wonder how this will effect us all??? -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA, listowner http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

Lorine has done a wonderful job with her Naturaizationrecords.com website and here's one you should bookmark and check out regularly for new additions: http://naturalizationrecords.com/usa/ny_onlinedb.shtml -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

None of this relates directly to your question but it might help narrow things down a bit. These are all the mentions of cemeteries listed in the index of the book GOTHAM: History of New York city to 1898. 1797 "Potter's Field opened just north of today's Washington Square" (p 358) Before 1830 "New York had banned burials north of Canal Street" (p 582-83) 1830 New York Marble Cemetery opened (p 582-83) 1832 Henry E. Pierrepont proposed a city of the dead on the heights of Gowanus (p 582-83) between 1842 & 1846 Walt Whitman reported watching a group of women trying to block workman from digging up the Baptist Cemetery at the corner of Crystie and Delancy (p 706) 1848 Calvary Cemetery established by John Hughes (p 751) 1870s "Workmen digging a cellar for a building at Lexington and 107th St. uncovered a graveyard for British Soldiers" (p 930) Margaret > Subject: [HudsonRV] Burials in Old New York City > I have a Revolutionary War pensioner who died in New City June 2, > 1835. The > family lived on West St. NYC was young, small and down on the lover > end of > Manhattan. Cemeteries were probably north and moved as growth pushed > north.

I have a Revolutionary War pensioner who died in New City June 2, 1835. The family lived on West St. NYC was young, small and down on the lover end of Manhattan. Cemeteries were probably north and moved as growth pushed north. What happened to these cemeteries? Where are the records about this information? Widow was still alive at this time, filed widow's pension in Marine Court NYC. She may be affected by this as well. One ancestor died 1839 we know about because he was reinterred (from somewhere) to Cypress Hills Brooklyn in 1853. There must have been removals, and opportunities for families to intercede and claim loved ones. Where can I find information and details in this regard? Jan in California.

BOWNE this list is from the 1870 upstate printed census for ALL BOWNEs living in upstate NYS I would like birth date and where marriage date and where death date and where name of spouse name of mother and father name of brothers and sisters on each name are these on the 1880 census ? thank for your help I am connecting all BOWNEs worldwide and all years but most or some of these names posted below are my immediate family will post info when I receive it Will help with allied families married to a BOWNE birth year maybe give or take a year or two all living in PUTNAM,ORANGE,DUTCHESS,WESTCHESTER,OSWEGO,STLAWRENCE,ALBANY,ONEIDA,MONROE, DELEWARE,STEUBEN,JEFFERSON ,OSTEGO cos Abraham Bowne b 1810 Philipstown, Putnam Co NY Alfred Bowne b 1810 Montgomery, Orange Co NY spouse Emeline Davis Augustus Bowne b 1820 Cornwall, Orange co NY Benjamin Bowne b 1829 Cornwall, Orange Co NY Charles E Bowne b 1818 Poughkeepsie,Dutchess Co NY spouse Mary Haggerty Clara Bowne b 1818 Fishkill,Dutchess Co NY Clarinda Bowne b 1788 Fishkill,Dutchess Co NY Delila Bowne b 1810 Kent,Putnam Co NY E. Bowne b 1858 Poughkeepsie Dutchess Co NY Elias Bowne b 1796 Yonkers,Westchester Co NY Elizabeth Bowne b 1816 Oswego,Oswego Co NY George Bowne b 1804 Fishkill,Dutchess Co NY H.W. Bowne b 1768 Montgomery,Orange Co NY Harvey Bowne b 1801 Poughkeepsie,Dutchess Co NY James Bowne b 1835 Fishkill,Dutchess Co NY James Bowne b 1824 Gouveneur, St Lawrence Co NY James Bowne b 1820 Montgomery,Orange Co NY James Bowne b 1798 Poughkeepsie Dutchess Co NY spouse Phebe Conklin James Bowne b 1787 Gouveneur,St Lawrence Co NY spouse Elizabeth Wilson Jennie Bowne b 1851 Carmel,Putnam Co NY John R Bowne b 1822 Albany,Albany Co NY Joseph Bowne b 1819 Fishkill,Dutchess Co NY Joseph Bowne b 1817 Paris,Oneida Co NY spouse Elizabeth Weeden Joseph Bowne b 1789 Fishkill,Dutchess Co NY M Ransom Bowne b 1840 Oswego,Oswego Co NY Michael Bowne b 1820 Henrietta,Monroe Co NY Newton (Sydney?) Bowne b 1841/42 Hastings,Oswego Co NY spouse Margaret Clune Norwood Bowne b 1823 Delhi,Deleware Co NY Phebe B owne b 1810 Fishkill,Dutchess Co NY Rebecca Y Bowne b 1848 Delhi,Deleware Co NY Richard Bowne b 1807 Rochester,Monroe Co NY Rosetta Bowne b 1805 Philipstown,Putnam Co NY S.T. Bowne b 1857 Poughkeepsie,Dutchess Co NY Samuel Bowne b 1848 Urbana,Steuben Co NY Susan Bowne b 1851 Fishkill,Dutchess Co NY Theodore A Bowne b 1840 Fishkill,Dutchess Co NY spouse Eleanora ? on last name Thomas Bowne b 1831 Westchester,Westchester Co NY spouse Rebecca Legget Watson Walter Bowne b 1829 Oswego,Oswego Co NY Willet Bowne b 1822 Macomb,St Lawrence Co NY Willie Bowne b 1857 Antwerp,Jefferson Co NY William Bowne b 1845/46 Middlefield,Ostego Co NY spouse Hannah Morton William Bowne b 1844 Middleffield,Ostego Co NY thanks for any info Audrey Bowne Seattle gregbowne@earthlink.net