Please excuse me if this is a stupid question... But in this message, There's a North St. almost up by the Menands border. East of Rt. 32 (No. Pearl St.) and North of I90, right by the railroad tracks. Don't know if it was there in the 1800s, but Joy Is this Menands a town? and if so just where is it located , do you know anything about it? According to my mom and dads marriage certificate, that is where they were married in 1932. I would like to know just where it is located. Thank you so very much. Lena

I don't know about Expedia, as I have never used them, but Mapquest places the house that I presently live in about 10 miles from its actual location, and on a completely different road. Kathryn

Wow, that is a REAL vacation by that route! In a message dated 8/5/03 1:11:00 AM, ggilligan@austin.rr.com writes: << You can start in New York City and go to Lake Champlain (small boats (30') only), Lake Ontario (and then the St.Lawrence river) or Lake Erie (and on to all the lakes). It is a somewhat boring trip until you get to the larger bodies of water. >>

In the Census sheet I have from 1900, indeed a great deal of the people are first generation NY born with Irish parents, only a few were born in Ireland. Nellie De Vos was the only one born in the Netherlands and her two children listed there were NY born. It occurred to me that someone might be interested in the families listed on this sheet. I know, it is a slim chance someone is looking for them but still it is possible. I am happy to do a look-up. I have listed them by street and name below: Mohawk St. 40 Stages (?) Mary, wife; Helen, Margaret, Elizabeth, Joseph, James 30 Russell, Thomas, Mary, Thomas, Joseph 30 Creed, Elen (m-i-l) 36 Corrigan, Ann, James 36 Patzig, Joseph, Minnie, Nellie 36 De Vos, Nellie, Frank North Pearl St. 486 Ros (Roe?) Mary with neices and Nephews: 486 Atkins, George, William, Leonard, Rosella, Florence 486 Brown, John (boarder) 486 Jordan, Mary Albany Street 39 Mullen, Frances, Alice, James, Margaret, Frances, Alice 39 Doyle, Mary (m-i-l) 41 Cunningham, Jane, John, James, Bridget, Ammie (?) 1900 US Census done in Albany County, City of Albany, State of New York. Vol. 2, ED 34, Sheet 12, lines1-38 Jean Bails In a message dated 8/4/03 9:59:55 PM, duclos@localnet.com writes: << All of those streets were there in 1876. My gggrandfather lived on North St, among other streets. It was primarily an Irish neighborhood. It was in the lumber district of Albany. Until 1871 North Albany was part of Watervliet. Joe Duclos >>

You can start in New York City and go to Lake Champlain (small boats (30') only), Lake Ontario (and then the St.Lawrence river) or Lake Erie (and on to all the lakes). It is a somewhat boring trip until you get to the larger bodies of water. ----- Original Message ----- From: <SwimBails@aol.com> To: <NY-HUDSONRV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [HudsonRV] Re: 1876 map > Jerry, > > Thank you for the information. I was not sure about the second canal: > Oswego but you have confirmed it. It sounds like a delightful but rather long area > to explore by pleasure boat. > > A De Vos cousin in the Netherlands will be happy to learn this information > because he spent many years exploring waterways in Europe with his pleasure > boat. Now he is in his 80s and does not do this anymore but the interest is still > there. He would have loved this waterway trip so much! > > Best Wishes, > Jean Bails > > In a message dated 8/4/03 12:58:33 PM, ggilligan@austin.rr.com writes: > > << The canal that goes to Lake Ontario is a separate canal, called the Oswego > > Canal - still much in use by pleasure boats. In the early 1900's, the Erie > > canal was renovated and called the Barge canal. In most cases it followed > > the path of the old canal, but in others it had a new course. My own > > experience is a little old (7 years), but then it was fully navigable by > > small boats at least to Oswego. > > > Jerry >> > > > ==== NY-HUDSONRV Mailing List ==== > The NY-HudsonRV Mailing List Website > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/HudsonRV/ > Site good for unsubbing, changing subscription, archives, links, etc. >

Jerry, Thank you for the information. I was not sure about the second canal: Oswego but you have confirmed it. It sounds like a delightful but rather long area to explore by pleasure boat. A De Vos cousin in the Netherlands will be happy to learn this information because he spent many years exploring waterways in Europe with his pleasure boat. Now he is in his 80s and does not do this anymore but the interest is still there. He would have loved this waterway trip so much! Best Wishes, Jean Bails In a message dated 8/4/03 12:58:33 PM, ggilligan@austin.rr.com writes: << The canal that goes to Lake Ontario is a separate canal, called the Oswego Canal - still much in use by pleasure boats. In the early 1900's, the Erie canal was renovated and called the Barge canal. In most cases it followed the path of the old canal, but in others it had a new course. My own experience is a little old (7 years), but then it was fully navigable by small boats at least to Oswego. Jerry >>

Hi Joy, Yes, I think this is the same North Street today as in 1876. North Albany seems to have been built up some but remains a fairly small community. I wondered why it was not expanded more to the West, South, North. It appears that golf courses were added around the city (?Township) in more recent times. Something else that surprised me about today's Albany area was that i found a town called Conroy not far from Corrallis. James de Vos' grandson was named William CONROY de Vos!! I guess he was named after the town or the famous person who the town was named after. Life is full of interesting surprises! :-) North Albany looks like a very pleasant area that would be fun to visit. Thanks for your help, Joy! Jean Bails In a message dated 8/4/03 1:16:52 PM, joyweave@erols.com writes: << Hi, thought I'd chime in with a current Albany map-- There's a North St. almost up by the Menands border. East of Rt. 32 (No. Pearl St.) and North of I90, right by the railroad tracks. Don't know if it was there in the 1800s, but it looks like the one described below. Joy SwimBails@aol.com wrote: > Marita, {Snip} > > I think I found North St. by your directions--isn't it the street furthest > North on the East side of Broadway in North Albany? It is almost but not quite > a continuation of Third St.? Mapquest did a miserable job with North St. > Whatever they were showing me was not it and twice a requested zoom resulted in > an aereal view of Sacramento, CA!! [snip] >

All of those streets were there in 1876. My gggrandfather lived on North St, among other streets. It was primarily an Irish neighborhood. It was in the lumber district of Albany. Until 1871 North Albany was part of Watervliet. Joe Duclos

I thought the Erie Canal terminated at Waterford.

Hi, thought I'd chime in with a current Albany map-- There's a North St. almost up by the Menands border. East of Rt. 32 (No. Pearl St.) and North of I90, right by the railroad tracks. Don't know if it was there in the 1800s, but it looks like the one described below. Joy SwimBails@aol.com wrote: > Marita, > > I can see you are a practical person. $300 for an 1876 Albany City > Atlas...pfft! > > Thank you for the directions from your map. Much of the lettering is blurry > in my copy. Mapquest.com gave me a good idea of where Sherman St. is--just N > of Washington/Central and very close to Washington Park. > > I think I found North St. by your directions--isn't it the street furthest > North on the East side of Broadway in North Albany? It is almost but not quite > a continuation of Third St.? Mapquest did a miserable job with North St. > Whatever they were showing me was not it and twice a requested zoom resulted in > an aereal view of Sacramento, CA!! > > So that leaves Mohawk, which appears to be also in North Albany and going > North on Broadway, leaving Albany, it is the third street to the left (West) of > Broadway? > -- Do good with what thou hast, or it will do thee no good. WM PENN Outline trees for: HALLOCK, HEAD, PALMER, SELDEN at: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/e/a/Joyce-R-Weaver/ USA (northeast): Burnside, Green, Hallock, Head, Merritt, Morris, Palmer, Selden, Weaver./ CANADA (ON/QC): Brown, Clark, Grant, Weaver./ ENGLAND(Lanc.): Hunt, Wall. POLAND (Krasnik, Zaklikow, Lublin): Blumberg, Fogiel, Rosenel./ BELARUS (Wisoke-Litovsk, Brest, Grodno): Feinberg, Vilner, Greenberg, Petruskitz, Deibach.

The canal that goes to Lake Ontario is a separate canal, called the Oswego Canal - still much in use by pleasure boats. In the early 1900's, the Erie canal was renovated and called the Barge canal. In most cases it followed the path of the old canal, but in others it had a new course. My own experience is a little old (7 years), but then it was fully navigable by small boats at least to Oswego. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <SwimBails@aol.com> To: <NY-HUDSONRV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:45 AM Subject: Re: [HudsonRV] Re: 1876 map > Marita, > > I can see you are a practical person. $300 for an 1876 Albany City > Atlas...pfft! > > Thank you for the directions from your map. Much of the lettering is blurry > in my copy. Mapquest.com gave me a good idea of where Sherman St. is--just N > of Washington/Central and very close to Washington Park. > > I think I found North St. by your directions--isn't it the street furthest > North on the East side of Broadway in North Albany? It is almost but not quite > a continuation of Third St.? Mapquest did a miserable job with North St. > Whatever they were showing me was not it and twice a requested zoom resulted in > an aereal view of Sacramento, CA!! > > So that leaves Mohawk, which appears to be also in North Albany and going > North on Broadway, leaving Albany, it is the third street to the left (West) of > Broadway? > > I have always wondered about the Erie Canal. It seems to go more directly to > Lake Ontario than to Lake Erie and also there are whole large sections in the > middle of the state where it appears to be dried up--except maybe in the > Spring. I remember reading about mules that pulled the boats through the > difficult areas. Dredging must have been difficult in those days. It seems that in > the summer the boats would run aground and in the winter the smaller passages > would freeze over. Still the prosperity of much of New York (before the > railways) was heavily dependent on the Erie Canal, I understand. In Albany it would > not be so much of a problem because of the Hudson River, I suppose. > > Best wishes and many thanks, > Jean > > In a message dated 8/4/03 12:01:40 AM, maritag@earthlink.net writes: > > << Jean > > I was able to purchase a copy of the 1876 Albany City Atlas on my > recent trip. I found it at an antique store. He wanted $300 for the > original so I opted for a copy. Marita > > > > > > > 51 Sherman > > 30 Mohawk > > North near the Canal (I guess that means North Street) > > 25 North- corner of Washington Ave. > > 36 Mohawk > > > These low numbers but the addresses close to the Hudson River. > > > > Washington Ave. goes from Eagle, opposite city hall west to the city > > line. > > Sherman goes from Lark to Partridge St. > > Mohawk goes from Broadway westerly to North Albany (near Pearl St.) > Broadway goes North westerly > > North St. goes from 1233 Broadway to the canal, North Albany > The Erie Canal parallels Broadway north westerly > North St. appears to be only about 1 block long east from Broadway > across champlain st and ends at the Rensselaer and Saratoga Railroad > and is in North Albany >> > > > ==== NY-HUDSONRV Mailing List ==== > The NY-HudsonRV Mailing List Website > http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/HudsonRV/ > Site good for unsubbing, changing subscription, archives, links, etc. >

Marita, I can see you are a practical person. $300 for an 1876 Albany City Atlas...pfft! Thank you for the directions from your map. Much of the lettering is blurry in my copy. Mapquest.com gave me a good idea of where Sherman St. is--just N of Washington/Central and very close to Washington Park. I think I found North St. by your directions--isn't it the street furthest North on the East side of Broadway in North Albany? It is almost but not quite a continuation of Third St.? Mapquest did a miserable job with North St. Whatever they were showing me was not it and twice a requested zoom resulted in an aereal view of Sacramento, CA!! So that leaves Mohawk, which appears to be also in North Albany and going North on Broadway, leaving Albany, it is the third street to the left (West) of Broadway? I have always wondered about the Erie Canal. It seems to go more directly to Lake Ontario than to Lake Erie and also there are whole large sections in the middle of the state where it appears to be dried up--except maybe in the Spring. I remember reading about mules that pulled the boats through the difficult areas. Dredging must have been difficult in those days. It seems that in the summer the boats would run aground and in the winter the smaller passages would freeze over. Still the prosperity of much of New York (before the railways) was heavily dependent on the Erie Canal, I understand. In Albany it would not be so much of a problem because of the Hudson River, I suppose. Best wishes and many thanks, Jean In a message dated 8/4/03 12:01:40 AM, maritag@earthlink.net writes: << Jean I was able to purchase a copy of the 1876 Albany City Atlas on my recent trip. I found it at an antique store. He wanted $300 for the original so I opted for a copy. Marita > > > 51 Sherman > 30 Mohawk > North near the Canal (I guess that means North Street) > 25 North- corner of Washington Ave. > 36 Mohawk > These low numbers but the addresses close to the Hudson River. > > Washington Ave. goes from Eagle, opposite city hall west to the city > line. > Sherman goes from Lark to Partridge St. > Mohawk goes from Broadway westerly to North Albany (near Pearl St.) Broadway goes North westerly > North St. goes from 1233 Broadway to the canal, North Albany The Erie Canal parallels Broadway north westerly North St. appears to be only about 1 block long east from Broadway across champlain st and ends at the Rensselaer and Saratoga Railroad and is in North Albany >>

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In 1708-09, after years of continual religious persecution, war, and general upheavel, they left their homes in Mainz, Treves, Loraine, Alsace, Baden, and Wurttemberg and traveled along the Rhine River to Amsterdam, Holland. From there they set sail for London. Some became English citizens, others went to Ireland and about three thousand sailed for the Colony of New York with its newly appointed Governor, Robert Hunter. These men were, for the most part, shopkeepers, tradesmen, and farmers. Hunter intended to put them to work producing tar and turpentine for the Royal Navy. The only reason they had agreed to this was the promise of 40 acres of land each in what is today, Schoharie County. They wanted this land so that their children would have a means of support after they were gone. Around Christmas Day of 1709, they left London for New York. They were crowded together in ten ships without decent food or sanitary conditions. When they arrived in New York on 14 Jun 1710, there was so much illness that they were detained for a few more months on Nutten (Governors) Island. During that time Robert Hunter discovered that, not only was Schoharie 40 miles inland in an unbroken wilderness, but the trees were not suitable for the production of tar and turpentine. He then took money out of his own pocket and purchased some six hundred acres on the Hudson River in what is today, Columbia County. He also purchased another six hundred acres on the West side. Although small villages were given names, names which don't necessarily exist today, in general they were known as East and West Camp. In the Spring of 1711, the Palatines set about getting the Pine trees ready for tapping, but the work was slowed down while 105 volunteers were enlisted for a Colonial attack on the French in Canada. This campaign was a failure and Gov. Hunter soon discovered that northern Pine could not produce the amount of tar and turpentine expected so, this too was a failure. Hunter then found that he had almost depleated his funds and was unable to collect the money he had spent from England. Also the Palatines were very unhappy and close to rebellion. Not knowing what else to do, Hunter released them from their contracts and more or less told them to fend for themselves until such time as the Queen would require their services. Some, still believing in the land that had been promised them, forged a trail to Schoharie; some thirty families moved down river to Dutchess County; a few went to or remained in the West Camp and about three hundred remained in Livingston Manor, Columbia County. JOHANNES COONRADT BERINGER (later changed to Barringer) was one of the names that appeared on Gov. Hunter's ration list in 1710. In 1711 and 1714, he and his wife, ANNA ELIZABETH STAHL, were listed as parents in the baptismal records of St. Paul's Even- gelical Church of West Camp. On 17 Jan 1715/16, He was one of the Protestants of foreign birth who took the Oath of Allegiance to the Colony of New York at Albany. In 1717, he and his wefe were listed with five children at Hunterstown, East Camp. Religion was a very important part of the lives of the Palatines. Some were of the Lutheran faith and others, like Coonradt, were Calvanists (Reformed). Coonradt was one of the founders of what appears to have been the first church in Dutchess County. This church, which housed both the Lutheran and the Reformed congre- gations, was established at Kirchebock in 1716. The fact that he and his wife were listed as parents in the baptismal records of the Dutch Reformed Church at Kingston in 1722, may have been an indication of his desire for a separate reformed church. 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Karin, that is a great idea. I will try it. I was not sure the streets would still exist but at least two and maybe three still do. Thank you for the suggestion! Best wishes, Jean In a message dated 8/3/03 12:27:14 PM, JayFamNY@webtv.net writes: << Jean, have you tried EXPEDIA.COM or MAPQUEST ? You can go right down to the housenumber for a view. Have a wonderful day Karin >>

Jean I was able to purchase a copy of the 1876 Albany City Atlas on my recent trip. I found it at an antique store. He wanted $300 for the original so I opted for a copy. Marita > > > 51 Sherman > 30 Mohawk > North near the Canal (I guess that means North Street) > 25 North- corner of Washington Ave. > 36 Mohawk > These low numbers but the addresses close to the Hudson River. > > Washington Ave. goes from Eagle, opposite city hall west to the city > line. > Sherman goes from Lark to Partridge St. > Mohawk goes from Broadway westerly to North Albany (near Pearl St.) Broadway goes North westerly > North St. goes from 1233 Broadway to the canal, North Albany The Erie Canal parallels Broadway north westerly North St. appears to be only about 1 block long east from Broadway across champlain st and ends at the Rensselaer and Saratoga Railroad and is in North Albany > > ______________________________X-Message: #4

I have the certificate # of my grandmother's marriage, hopefully! Does anyone up in the Albany area know of someone that will go and get it for me. I understand the cost is now $22. plus whatever that person would charge. Thank you, Mary Anne Berrigan Anderson

Jean, have you tried EXPEDIA.COM or MAPQUEST ? You can go right down to the housenumber for a view. Have a wonderful day Karin searching for BROWN GARRISON PORTER FLORANCE LAMOREAUX FINCH BEERS HOUGHTAILING RICH FRINK LOW BAILEY in NY http://community.webtv.net/JayFamNY/EarlyAmerican

Thank you so very much Joe. This really does help a lot! Jean Bails In a message dated 8/2/03 10:46:50 PM, duclos@localnet.com writes: << Hi Jean Mohawk & North Streets still exist in No. Albany. I grew up on Genesee St, one block north of Mohawk. There was a De Vos family across the street from us. I don't remember the father's name, but there was a daughter named Sandra. She would probably be about 60 about now. Not much help but at least some info. Joe Duclos >>

Hi Jean Mohawk & North Streets still exist in No. Albany. I grew up on Genesee St, one block north of Mohawk. There was a De Vos family across the street from us. I don't remember the father's name, but there was a daughter named Sandra. She would probably be about 60 about now. Not much help but at least some info. Joe Duclos