This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040405070306050203060909 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Allen & Mary Gilmore" Subject: Re: Re: [NYCAYUGA] Surrogates Records - Box 7 - John TOBIAS (1830)] Date: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:34 AM It does depend on what paper anyone wants. We have a new reader/printer for microfilm, if we have the year and date one needs at Seymour Library. In fact the only papers we do not permit copying are the bound vols. in the History Room. So if you have not checked with Seymour Library lately, you will find that microfilm is available by asking at the main desk for the year and date you need, they will set it up for you (if it is there at all as many very early dates are not, however many are) the main desk is open at all times the library is open. The History room has separate hours and the bound copies are in that room, all information available on website at www.seymourlibrary.org Even with the bound copies, if a person has a digital camera, they may take a picture of a wanted item with that but you are correct, for those bound copies no photo copying is done for many years as they are SO FRAGILE. Mary Gilmore, History Room, Seymour Library, 176 Genesee St., Auburn, N.Y. 13021 315-252-2571 www.seymourlibrary.org all links available. also study http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycayuga/seymourl.htm that list might help, newspapers at # 4, 25, 29 & 30 thanks for Bernie & Sue Corcoran who maintain that site. --------------040405070306050203060909 Content-Type: text/plain; name="Re_ Re_ [NYCAYUGA] Surrogates Records - Box 7 - John TOBIAS (1830)].txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Re_ Re_ [NYCAYUGA] Surrogates Records - Box 7 - John TOBIAS (1830)].txt" From: "Allen & Mary Gilmore" <Allgilmore@adelphia.net> To: "Bill Hecht" <wsh6@cornell.edu>; <undisclosed-recipients:> Subject: Re: Re: [NYCAYUGA] Surrogates Records - Box 7 - John TOBIAS (183= 0)] Date: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:34 AM It does depend on what paper anyone wants. We have a new reader/printer f= or=20 microfilm, if we have the year and date one needs at Seymour Library. In = fact the only papers we do not permit copying are the bound vols. in the = History Room. So if you have not checked with Seymour Library lately, you= =20 will find that microfilm is available by asking at the main desk for the = year and date you need, they will set it up for you (if it is there at al= l=20 as many very early dates are not, however many are) the main desk is open= at=20 all times the library is open. The History room has separate hours and th= e=20 bound copies are in that room, all information available on website at=20 www.seymourlibrary.org Even with the bound copies, if a person has a digital camera, they may ta= ke=20 a picture of a wanted item with that but you are correct, for those bound= =20 copies no photo copying is done for many years as they are SO FRAGILE. Mary Gilmore, History Room, Seymour Library, 176 Genesee St., Auburn, N.Y= =2E=20 13021 315-252-2571 www.seymourlibrary.org all links available. also study http://www.tootsweb.com/~nycayuga/seymourl.htm that list migh= t=20 help, newspapers at # 4, 25, 29 & 30 thanks for Bernie & Sue Corcoran wh= o=20 maintain that site. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Bill Hecht" <wsh6@cornell.edu> To: <undisclosed-recipients:> Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 10:16 AM Subject: [Fwd: Re: [NYCAYUGA] Surrogates Records - Box 7 - John TOBIAS=20 (1830)] > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [NYCAYUGA] Surrogates Records - Box 7 - John TOBIAS (1830)= > Resent-Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:07:53 -0700 > Resent-From: NYCAYUGA-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 09:53:14 -0800 > From: Emma May Hunter <genie@usadatanet.net> > Reply-To: NYCAYUGA-L@rootsweb.com > To: NYCAYUGA-L@rootsweb.com > References: <20050210105016.73831.qmail@web41525.mail.yahoo.com> > > > > I would like to know if the old newspapers at the Cayuga Co. Historian= 's > office are on microfilm, and if you permit people to make copies of > newspaper articles? The Seymour Library does not the last time I was=20 > there. > Thank you, > EM > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "janet gibbens" <jwgibbens2@yahoo.com> > To: <NYCAYUGA-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:50 AM > Subject: Re: [NYCAYUGA] Surrogates Records - Box 7 - John TOBIAS (1830)= > > >> Regarding what paper for TOBIAS ca 16 Aug 1830: >> My ancestors' notices for that period were in 'The Cayuga Patriot'. >> >> See NYS Newspaper Project for list of Auburn papers, and film location= s: >> http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/206.htm >> >> The Cayuga Patriot, 1814-1847, weekly, microfilms at Cayuga County >> Historian (Auburn). Am sure Seymour librarian, Mary Gilmore, would adv= ise >> also. >> >> >> >> --- Nancy Ward <nward2@twcny.rr.com> wrote: >> >> > EM- >> > Thank you for the kind offer. CCC (the SUNY college) is one place I >> > have not been able to get to, to check yet. >> > The dates that someone kindly posted from the Tobias Cemetery are >> > correct: >> > >> > John Tobias d. Aug 16, 1830 in 66th yr >> > Polly, wife of John, d. Aug 17, 1830 in 58th yr. >> > >> > These have been confirmed with the actual stones. Ironically, this >> > cemetery is on private land today- property owned by people that unt= il >> > recent years had no idea that John and Polly were their ancestors. >> > >> > Suggestions of Seymour Library and the Historian's Office are great,= >> > except I've already tried there myself. It was at Seymour that we fo= und >> > a notation that there was an article in "the local paper" at that ti= me, >> > but no indication of what paper or copy of the article itself. >> > >> > Nancy >> > >> > >> > On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:48 PM, Emma May Hunter wrote: >> > >> > > Nancy, >> > > Do you have a death date for Polly and John Tobias? Sometimes whe= n I >> > > am in >> > > Auburn I stop at the SUNY College there and go through their=20 >> > > newspaper >> > > microfilm collection. If I have a date I could look next time I g= o. >> > > If I >> > > find anything I would make a copy and send it to you. >> > > EM >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Nancy Ward" <nward2@twcny.rr.com> >> > > To: <NYCAYUGA-L@rootsweb.com> >> > > Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 5:26 PM >> > > Subject: Re: [NYCAYUGA] Surrogates Records - Box 7 - John TOBIAS >> > (1830) >> > > >> > > >> > >> Wilma- >> > >> Yes this family becomes very messy at this point. Shortly after, = the >> > >> only child left in Cayuga Co was John, Jr. >> > >> Lodema (Lodana) the youngest, apparently went to live with her ol= der >> > >> sister, Betsy and her husband Asa Spicer. >> > >> Many of the siblings were living in the Mt Morris area or moved=20 >> > >> there >> > >> shortly and then on to Michigan. >> > >> David Palmer was the husband of Mercy. >> > >> >> > >> Nancy >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Feb 7, 2005, at 7:55 PM, Greenpen2@aol.com wrote: >> > >> >> > >>> Nancy, >> > >>> >> > >>> Your comments were really interesting and might help explain why= I >> > >>> thought >> > >>> that file was a bit confusing, besides very long. >> > >>> >> > >>> Items I did not get included from my notes for John TOBIAS' file= >> > >>> were: >> > >>> >> > >>> 1. Lodana TOBIAS was a minor and Asa SPICER was guardian >> > >>> >> > >>> 2. John SHARPSTEEN filed the petition with the court >> > >>> >> > >>> 3. References to Livingston County included the location of Mou= nt >> > >>> Morris >> > >>> >> > >>> 4. David PALMER is identified in the documents as "son-in-law" >> > >>> >> > >>> Best wishes, >> > >>> Wilma in Colorado >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>>> From: Nancy Ward <nward2@twcny.rr.com> >> > >>>> Subject: Re: [NYCAYUGA] Surrogates Records - Box 7 (part 1 of 2= ), >> > >>>> ca. >> > >>>> 1830s >> > >>>> Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2005 18:46:09 -0500 >> > >>>> References: <1df.34c8df6f.2f3940fc@aol.com> >> > >>>> In-Reply-To: <1df.34c8df6f.2f3940fc@aol.com> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On Feb 7, 2005, at 5:09 PM, Greenpen2@aol.com wrote: >> > >>>> >> > >>>>> John TOBIAS of Springport; 1830 >> > >>>>> bond: John SHARPSTEEN; Benjamin F. COMSTOCK; Joseph SMITH; Joh= n >> > >>>>> TOBIAS >> > >>>>> kin: Betsey wife of Asa SPICER (Livingston County); Lodana TOB= IAS >> > >>>>> of >> > >>>>> Springport; James and John TOBIAS of Springport; Daniel TOBIAS= of >> > >>>>> Michigan; Polly >> > >>>>> wife of George SIMMONS of Pennsylvania; Helen wife of Benjamin= >> > >>>>> CRANDALL; Henry >> > >>>>> TOBIAS of Livingston County; Mersy wife of David PALMER; Hanna= h >> > >>>>> wife >> > >>>>> of Leman >> > >>>>> POWERS (Springport); Catherine wife of Henry THATCHER=20 >> > >>>>> (Springport) >> > >>>>> >> > >>>> If anybody is looking for more information on this family, plea= se >> > >>>> contact me. John and Polly (Polly deceased one day after John) = are >> > >>>> my >> > >>>> 4th great-grandparents. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Additionally, there was supposed to be a write-up in a local pa= per >> > >>>> about their deaths. If anybody has found it, please let me know= =2E=20 >> > >>>> As >> > >>>> the >> > >>>> "legend" goes that I would like to find out about: John shot Po= lly >> > >>>> and >> > >>>> then turned the gun on himself. The motive behind this is unkno= wn >> > by >> > >>>> their descendants. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Nancy Ward >> > >>>> Syracuse, NY >> > >>>> nward2@twcny.rr.com >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D NYCAYUGA Mailing List =3D=3D=3D=3D >> > >>> Have you visited the NYGenWeb project home page lately? >> > >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb >> > >>> >> > >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > >>> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family = and >> > >>> the >> > >>> areas they lived. 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