I have recently had amazing success after 30 years of searching. A person from another branch of the Charles Rogers family answered my query and said, "I have the information you want." He had the original will of Charles' wife, Eliza Phillips', mother; original letter from Charles' brother dated in 1819; the original letter from Charles' sister dated in 1821; original court documents regarding a lawsuit against Eliza's guardian who took all of the money she inherited from her mother, Sarah Bowsfield, (1833); original accounting of what he claimed to have spent the money for; original letter from Eliza's brother, John Bridle, (1836); and an original letter from Eliza's uncle, James Phillips, who was in Kent, England (1836). He sent me copies of everything and it is a gold mine. Charles was living in Canajoharie, Montgomery County, NY, in 1819 and 1821. His brother, Henry Rogers, was in Plattsburgh, Clinton Co., NY, and his sister, Betsey Blanchard, lived in York, Livingston Co. now, Genesee Co., then, NY. Charles and Eliza Phillips were married in Stockbridge, Madison County, NY in 1830. They then went to Lockport, Niagara Co., where they filed the lawsuit about her mother's estate. She got about $15.00 out of an estate of over $500 in 1819. It is obvious that the accounting was written after they filed the suit. I found that they had a child who had died while they lived in Lockport which I didn't know about. From there they moved to Warren, Trumbull Co., OH, in 1837, and to Knoxville, IL, in 1844. Lucille

Hello New York Researchers: For those of you who have a deep interest in how, when and where your Surnames were formed I would like to direct you to 5 new pages we have recently added to our web site. Many researchers have for years believed that all ancestors with the same Surname were at some point related. That is simply not true. When you get back to proving your pre 1500s ancestors you will discover that there are in fact many Surnames that have passed through many families that have no relationship whatsoever. The 5 pages mentioned also contain information on many Forenames and their creation and some of the pages are large so relax and take your time. THE ORIGIN OF THE SURNAME PART 1 THE ORIGIN OF THE SURNAME PART 2 THE ORIGIN OF THE FORENAME FORENAMES OF WOMEN AND THEIR SIGNIFICANCE FORENAMES OF MEN AND THEIR SIGNIFICANCE .......................................................................... There is much information here that should be of interest to all. Go to our web site at: http://www.linkline.com/personal/xymox/ Once there enter the link titled "ORIGIN OF SURNAMES & FORENAMES" this will take you to the index for the 5 pages. For those of you who are AOL members you may have trouble connecting to many pages that may come up with a message such as "Page Does Not Exist" and you can cure that by using your browser feature of Copy and Paste the URL to your browser and then enter from there. All pages contained within our web pages are free for viewing and study by all interested researchers. The very best to you all. Enjoy. Harold Oliver Director America's First Families

Hi, All.. Chester Bennett, son of James Bennett, was born in PA on his family's journey settling towns and founding churches from Middlesex, MA through Broome Co., NY to Great Bend, PA and then on to Milton/Locke, Cayuga, NY. Some of Chester's cousins remained in Susquehanna, PA area, but his parents continued on to NY, while Chester later went on to IL, MO and back to Nunda, NY where Chester must have died. Chester married Orah Engel, whose precise parentage is unknown. The following appears in a history of Nunda, Allegany-later Livingston, Co., NY: James Bennett, wife and seven children, settled in Nunda in 1813. The children were James, Jr., Chester who married and soon after moved to Oakland. Three daughters were born to them - one moved west. Susan married Cornelius Van Riper - the Miller at Oakland; Mary, married Simeon Hall, and lived at Oakland. She was an editor of the Sunday Department of the Buffalo Evening News and a poetess of some merit. She published a book of poems entitled "Live Coals." She died at Oakland in 1908. Gaylord Bennet lived in Nunda twenty years; Vincent; Truman; Levi. The daughter, Lovina was thrice married. 1, Barak Tozer, 2 Richard Bowen; 3, Hiram Bishop. Her children were Barak Tozer, Jr.,James R. Bowen, a veteran, clergyman and autheor. He married Elizabeth Pratt, and an estimable lady in the west who survives him. Chester Bennett Bowen, (MOH recipient) veteran, married Josephine Colby; moved to Texas and died there in 1907. John J. Bowen, a veteran is still living (at time of history). Mrs. Lovina Bennett Bowen is authority for there being two camps of Indians in Nunda village; one south of the High School, and one west of Buffalo Street, in 1813. Note: (Lovina Bowen was a good friend and neighbor of the legendary Old White Woman, Mary Jemison). I'm not remembering just which states are included in NY Central List.... However, I thought this an interesting account of my family, Chester, being my ggggrandfather, and it covers several counties ... Lois ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen" <ladyaudris@earthlink.net> To: <NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 4:56 PM Subject: [NYCENTRAL] COLLEEN'S JULY CHALLENGE > Okay all you NY-CENTRA researchers! > > I'm back and ready to stir things up again! :) You've been so quiet > that we now have cobwebs in our archives. So, WAKE UP... WAKE UP!! > > July - the month of US Independence. However, we wouldn't have anything > if it weren't for our immigrants who started it all for us today. > > Your challenge: > > Tell us about your central New York immigrants. The time period is > irrelevant, but please include it in your post. Do not give just names > and dates please. TELL us about your people - none living, though. > > Send your challenge response to the list <NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com>. > > I'll be waiting to see if anyone picks up the gauntlet! > > Colleen > > > > > ==== NY-CENTRA Mailing List ==== > To post messages to the central New York discussion list, send them to NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com even if you receive the digest. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Well ok , Now that the mail is running again !! I`ll go ! , for starters my Ancestress is Emma Mira Potter , born Feb 17 1829 , Some place Unknown in New York , Emma married William Lenox ( son of James ) in About 1847-8 , Somewhere , In New York , Penns , Ohio , the family settled down in Ross Co Ohio for a few years , Having many babies , James bn 1849 being one of them , They picked up the clan and moved to St.Joseph Missouri about 1855 ish Where William Worked as a Policeman , City Councilman , and Assist. Marshal of the 1860 Census , William has shot dead by a baddy person in 1869 , Emma died in her bed of old age on a Saturday morning , March 10 1910 , , I would like to know where she was born !!!! , Phil ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen" <ladyaudris@earthlink.net> To: <NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 3:20 PM Subject: [NYCENTRAL] FROM THE ADMIN: PLEASE READ > Hi everyone, > > Well, it's been a week since I issued you all a challenge and only one > person has accepted the challenge. Where are all of you?

In a message dated 7/10/04 5:52:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, carrol@allthroughtheages.com writes: << I would love to accept the challenge but I don't know anything about the ancestors from that area except the names of a couple. >> I have no idea where or when my brick wall immigrated or if he did immigrate. A lot of mine were Indians and, of course, did not immigrate but were "removed".

I would love to accept the challenge but I don't know anything about the ancestors from that area except the names of a couple. Sorry I wish I could be more help. Carrol -----Original Message----- From: Colleen [mailto:ladyaudris@earthlink.net] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 3:20 PM To: NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYCENTRAL] FROM THE ADMIN: PLEASE READ Hi everyone, Well, it's been a week since I issued you all a challenge and only one person has accepted the challenge. Where are all of you? Are you setting your central New York research aside, and that's why we have no discussion going on here? C'mon! Let me know you're all still on the other side of my monitor! :) Colleen P.S. If you decide to accept the challenge, please make your subject line read JULY CHALLENGE: nameofancestor - changing nameofancestor to your own ancestor's name, but of course. :) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [NYCENTRAL] COLLEEN'S JULY CHALLENGE Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:55:56 -0600 Resent-From: NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:56:03 -0600 From: Colleen <ladyaudris@earthlink.net> Reply-To: NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com To: NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com Okay all you NY-CENTRA researchers! I'm back and ready to stir things up again! :) You've been so quiet that we now have cobwebs in our archives. So, WAKE UP... WAKE UP!! July - the month of US Independence. However, we wouldn't have anything if it weren't for our immigrants who started it all for us today. Your challenge: Tell us about your central New York immigrants. The time period is irrelevant, but please include it in your post. Do not give just names and dates please. TELL us about your people - none living, though. Send your challenge response to the list <NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com>. I'll be waiting to see if anyone picks up the gauntlet! Colleen ==== NY-CENTRA Mailing List ==== To post messages to the central New York discussion list, send them to NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com even if you receive the digest. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 ==== NY-CENTRA Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the list send your message to <NY-CENTRA-L-request@rootsweb.com> for individual list messages; <NY-CENTRA-D-request@rootsweb.com> for digest messages. Then put the word unsubscribe in the subject line and send your message. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 7/5/04 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.716 / Virus Database: 472 - Release Date: 7/5/04

Hi everyone, Well, it's been a week since I issued you all a challenge and only one person has accepted the challenge. Where are all of you? Are you setting your central New York research aside, and that's why we have no discussion going on here? C'mon! Let me know you're all still on the other side of my monitor! :) Colleen P.S. If you decide to accept the challenge, please make your subject line read JULY CHALLENGE: nameofancestor - changing nameofancestor to your own ancestor's name, but of course. :) -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [NYCENTRAL] COLLEEN'S JULY CHALLENGE Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 15:55:56 -0600 Resent-From: NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 15:56:03 -0600 From: Colleen <ladyaudris@earthlink.net> Reply-To: NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com To: NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com Okay all you NY-CENTRA researchers! I'm back and ready to stir things up again! :) You've been so quiet that we now have cobwebs in our archives. So, WAKE UP... WAKE UP!! July - the month of US Independence. However, we wouldn't have anything if it weren't for our immigrants who started it all for us today. Your challenge: Tell us about your central New York immigrants. The time period is irrelevant, but please include it in your post. Do not give just names and dates please. TELL us about your people - none living, though. Send your challenge response to the list <NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com>. I'll be waiting to see if anyone picks up the gauntlet! Colleen ==== NY-CENTRA Mailing List ==== To post messages to the central New York discussion list, send them to NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com even if you receive the digest. ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

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Tell us about your central New York immigrants. The time period is irrelevant, but please include it in your post. Do not give just names and dates please. TELL us about your people - none living, though. My FIELD/S came to Onondaga County sometime around 1815 from Massachusetts, probably the Taunton area. Charles and Subrana FIELD had their first three children in Massachusetts, and their last three in Onondaga. They were all farmers, as far as I know. Charles and Subrana had six children: Charles, Subrana, and Louisa (all born in MA), and Alson (my gggrandfather), Minerva, and Enos (all born in Onondaga). Alson married Elizabeth GOODMAN, b. 1822 in England. She was the daughter of Charles and Lucy GOODMAN of Somerset, England, who arrived in Onondaga before 1840. Many people came from the county of Somerset to work in the teasel industry, so Charles may have been one of these. Charles and Lucy GOODMAN also had a son named Francis who died in Washington, D. C. from injuries received in the Civil War. He was "a victim of the late slaveholders' rebellion". Elizabeth and Alson FIELDS were only married 10/11 years when she died in 1855 in Onondaga. She is buried there in Walnut Grove Cemetery. Alson took 4 of his five children and moved to Heath Twp., Allegan Co., MI 1858-1859. The second child, George, was apparently left behind, as he is not mentioned in the 1860 census for Allegan Co., MI. I don't know if he died or was left with a relative or what happened to him. Alson was apparently illiterate since he made his mark on land records. I don't know about Elizabeth. I also have ancestors in Clinton Co., NY. If that area is included in central NY, I will be glad to discuss them too. Judy Schor Kirkland, WA

Okay all you NY-CENTRA researchers! I'm back and ready to stir things up again! :) You've been so quiet that we now have cobwebs in our archives. So, WAKE UP... WAKE UP!! July - the month of US Independence. However, we wouldn't have anything if it weren't for our immigrants who started it all for us today. Your challenge: Tell us about your central New York immigrants. The time period is irrelevant, but please include it in your post. Do not give just names and dates please. TELL us about your people - none living, though. Send your challenge response to the list <NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com>. I'll be waiting to see if anyone picks up the gauntlet! Colleen

Elaine I recently had a similar discussion abt a Clarke Cem in Oswego. I think 'the company moved the bones' and set up a memorial. Was that sufficient and legally satisfactory? Lauren -----Original Message---From: ElaineDecker@cs.com [mailto:ElaineDecker@cs.com] Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 5:51 PM To: NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com Re: [NYCENTRAL] TOWN OF ESOPUS CEMETERY In a message dated 6/13/04 4:23:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Soszkaej@aol.com writes: << it.  This right-of-way may be taken away due to a company wanting to build homes in that area & they have a no trespassing sign posted (needless to say, we did not pay attention to it) - the company is Lighthouse Bluff LLC.  I will be in contact with the Planning Board of the Town of Esopus regarding this cemetery! >> I am pretty sure there are laws about this subject. Please let me know what you find out. A friend of mine in Rhode Island fought a huge construction company and the town and, sure enough, there were laws prohibiting taking away the right of way and the company had to adhere to a lot of rules regarding how far around the cemetery was sacred ground and couldn't be built upon. This is a very important subject and I would like to know all I can on it. Elaine Decker

In a message dated 6/15/04 8:51:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Soszkaej@aol.com writes: << addresses, and have put them together for presentation to the Town of Esopus Planning Board.  There were a number of web sites that were mentioned that I also ran off copies for this presentation also. >> Hi Jan, Did anyone mention that the town of Esopus most likely has an attorney? Maybe he could answer all those maybe questions, maybe....giggle! Elaine

Dear Great List Members: I want to thank all of you for such great information/ideas/concerns.  It was just great. I took each reply on the mailing list, did a cut & paste, blanked out E-mail addresses, and have put them together for presentation to the Town of Esopus Planning Board.  There were a number of web sites that were mentioned that I also ran off copies for this presentation also. I did call the Town of Esopus Planning Board & spoke with the secretary.  She was most helpful, but always used the "I think" - which is not too good.  But I did get the phone number for the company (Lighthouse Bluff, LLC) that is presently working up there & will give them a call tomorrow & see what they have to say. Want to get all my 'hens in a row' before doing anything & each & every one of you have helped. Thanks again, Jan Scholar of Godfrey Memorial Library Volunteer for:  Italian Genealogical Group and USGenWeb Census Project Scholar of Godfrey Memorial Library Volunteer for: Italian Genealogical Group and USGenWeb Census Project

Dear Friends with Ulster Co. Relatives buried in the Terpenning Family Burial Ground. Just last Wednesday, June 9th, I too visited the Town of Esopus cemetery you described as my Revolutionary War ancestor, wife, and some family members,(ZACHARIAH BURGER) as well as the in-laws of his daughter (JACOBUS LOW OR LOUW ) are buried there. It is in amazingly good condition and Daniel Terpenning, Assessor for the town of Esopus originally helped us locate it. The complete list of burials from Poucher's work is listed on the Ulster Co. Genweb page, and that was how I pin-pointed it originally. We encountered an "environmentalist" employed by the owner who was working in the woods, and explained that we had left a note on our windshield explaining but not excusing our tresspassing. I have extensive information on the Low(Louw) family from the Kingston area and also the Klynn Esopus Church (Museum) where these families worshipped. Glad to answer questions.. Margaret B. Redmond MOGGYR@JUNO.COM

In a message dated 6/13/04 4:23:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Soszkaej@aol.com writes: << it.  This right-of-way may be taken away due to a company wanting to build homes in that area & they have a no trespassing sign posted (needless to say, we did not pay attention to it) - the company is Lighthouse Bluff LLC.  I will be in contact with the Planning Board of the Town of Esopus regarding this cemetery! >> I am pretty sure there are laws about this subject. Please let me know what you find out. A friend of mine in Rhode Island fought a huge construction company and the town and, sure enough, there were laws prohibiting taking away the right of way and the company had to adhere to a lot of rules regarding how far around the cemetery was sacred ground and couldn't be built upon. This is a very important subject and I would like to know all I can on it. Elaine Decker

Dear List Members: My husband took me today to a very, very old cemetery located on River Road, in Ulster Park, Town of Esopus, Ulster County, New York.  Needless to say it was a very exciting experience.  I did take some photos of old headstones and would be more than willing to share these photos and/or try to find headstones of relatives of anyone interested.  Some pictures that I did take (just a few examples): Lyman-Elmore, 1781-1849 Terpenning, 08/30/1843 (14 days old) (yes this is how the surname is on headstone) Schryver, 07/02/1862 Norris, 1862-1942 Terpening, 187?-1949 & 1863-1942 Degraff-Bedford, 03/14/1868 (72 yrs, 5 mo., 19 days old) Hammond, 09/12/1854 Eckert, ?-1900 Houghtaling, 1815-1864 Many headstone were worn too much to be able to read, others where just a 'handmade' type headstone with just initials, etc., and many were just worn from age. This cemetery is about 1/2 mile back in a wooded area, with a right-of-way to it.  This right-of-way may be taken away due to a company wanting to build homes in that area & they have a no trespassing sign posted (needless to say, we did not pay attention to it) - the company is Lighthouse Bluff LLC.  I will be in contact with the Planning Board of the Town of Esopus regarding this cemetery! I do want to note that I have NO relations at this cemetery, nor does my husband, but feel that those put to rest there should be left to rest and that the cemetery should be treated with respect and it is historical (as far as I am concerned).  (Any help or suggestions as to what to do about this would be appreciated.) Should you want a photo or one taken due to relations, please let me know off list.  Any help with the preservation of this cemetery can be answered on list, as it may be helpful to others. Thanks, Jan Scholar of Godfrey Memorial Library Volunteer for:  Italian Genealogical Group and USGenWeb Census Project - Salamanca Village, Cataraugus County Scholar of Godfrey Memorial Library Volunteer for: Italian Genealogical Group and USGenWeb Census Project

The will transcripts had been uploaded to USGenWeb Archives, New York section, with SAMPUBCO's encouragement. http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/herkimer/wills/vg/moyer-john.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/stlawrence/wills/v12/rundell-obadiahk.txt http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/tompkins/wills/vb/wood-jonas-jr.txt W. David Samuelsen SAMPUBCO http://www.sampubco.com/

http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/ny/nyfiles.htm http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ny/chenango/cemeteries/abandoned01.txt if anyone know the name of this particular cemetery, it will be most appreciated. Got any newspaper clippings, obituaries, death certificates, old social security applications, wills, court records, deeds, etc laying around or in files to share? submit through http://www.genrecords.org/nyfiles.htm W. David Samuelsen, file manager New York section, USGenWeb Archives

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Thank you all so much for your rapid responses to my request below. Your suggestions were great, so please wish me happy hunting... :-) Linda J. Dodge ----- Original Message ----- From: Linda Dodge To: NYFingerLakes-L@rootsweb.com ; NY-CENTRA-L@rootsweb.com ; NYCAYUGA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 5:42 PM Subject: Gurnee My g-grandfather, John Riley Gurnee, was born somewhere in New York State abt. 1845, possibly the Finger Lakes region, but that too is uncertain. John moved as a young man to Michigan, married Emma J. Newton in Eaton County, Michigan, had his family in Michigan, and died in Michigan. None of our family knows who his parents were. Can anyone assist? Thank you, Linda J. Dodge