Another thought on this... Based on William Francis Smith being listed as single and living with his parents in Sambro in 1901, one would presume he married AFTER 1901. Was anyone able to find him in 1911 Census records? Would be important to note whether or not he was STILL single in 1911. If he's found, and listed married to an Anne/Annie/Ann/Anna, then that might help determine a rough date on the marriage. If he's still single, then his marriage would have taken place AFTER 1911. There are at least three Annie(etc) Slauenwhites born between 1873 and 1875 in Halifax County, any of which could be the one who married William. I'd not COUNT on her having married a Slauenwhite first, as it is QUITE rare for a widow to list a MARRIED name in these sorts of records. Not impossible, but rare. One would also have to venture a guess that she died after 1957, as there is no "matching" record of death in the NS VR database of an Annie(etc) Smith dying between 1954 and 1957. However, she could also have remarried after William's death, so that MAY be a moot point. Has anyone successfully tracked William in 1911? Jared > John Cordes wrote: >> I should have added: >> >> ... and of course there's still no clue how the name >> Slau(e)nwhite gets into the picture. > > I think that it would not be too difficult to program the search engine > for the VSs to include a search on the given name of the spouse in a > marriage record. AIR there are 236 marriage records with Slauenwhite. > > Bob can go through the records and find an Annie who married a > Slauenwhite. >> >> John >> >> On [2007-06-07 at 10:36pm] John Cordes <John.Cordes@dal.ca> wrote: >>> Bob, >>> >>> How about this marriage record? >>> >>> Anna A. Patten and William F. Smith married 1901 in Halifax >>> County >>> >>> 1901 - Book: 1819 - Page: 274 - Number: 333 >>> >>> He is William Francis Smith, from Sambro, age 30, s/o Henry & >>> Annie. She is Anna Archibald Patten, age 35, from Sydney. >>> >>> Seems close except for one thing: she is listed as a >>> spinster. Hm... >>> >>> John >>> >>> On [2007-06-07 at 06:53pm] John Cordes <John.Cordes@dal.ca> wrote: >>>> Hi Bob, >>>> >>>> I guess it goes without saying that you didn't find a >>>> marriage registration for Wm. Francis Smith and Annie >>>> Slauenwhite? >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> On [2007-06-07 at 06:50pm] Bob Hegerich <bobh36@cox.net> wrote: >>>>> William Francis SMITH is b. 16 Oct 1871 [NS Births, 1871, >>>>> book 1810, page 123, #1029] at Bald Rock, s/o Henry and Ann >>>>> Elizabeth (GRAY) SMITH, who m. 29 Jan 1870 [ibid]. He dies >>>>> 09 Aug 1954 at Halifax [NS deaths, 1954, book 1954, page >>>>> 4071]. Now here's the puzzle. >>>>> >>>>> On his death certificate, his wife says she is Annie >>>>> SLAUENWHITE SMITH. However, at this point, I haven't even >>>>> the foggiest notion who she might be. 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Hi Jared: William Francis SMITH m. Anna Archibald PATTEN on 18 Sep 1901 and she dies (as Mrs. SMITH) on 07 Jul 1940. So William Francis apparently married "Annie SLAUENWHITE" after 1940, when he was 70+ yrs of age. Unfortunately, there are a far larger number than three "Annie" SLAUENWHITE's living in the Halifax area at almost any time after about 1880 or so. :-) My suspicion is that this nut can be cracked only by one or more of the following: a. Somebody knows the family b. A church marriage record is found (unless somebody can sneak a peek at post-1930 civil marriages) c. A burial inscription or cemetery record for Annie (probably at Camp Hill Cemetery, if I had to guess) is found; if we had her date of DOB, it might help. This assumes that she could be ID'd as the right Annie which is problematic in itself d. An obit/death notice for Annie is found (so far, no luck). e. A funeral home record for Annie is found which gives her parents names. f. Just plain old dumb luck. :-) -----Bob H----- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jared Handspicker" <jedh@jedh.com> To: <nova-scotia-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [NS-L] William Francis SMITH of Bald Rock > Another thought on this... > > Based on William Francis Smith being listed as single and living with his > parents in Sambro in 1901, one would presume he married AFTER 1901. Was > anyone able to find him in 1911 Census records? Would be important to > note whether or not he was STILL single in 1911. If he's found, and > listed married to an Anne/Annie/Ann/Anna, then that might help determine a > rough date on the marriage. If he's still single, then his marriage would > have taken place AFTER 1911. There are at least three Annie(etc) > Slauenwhites born between 1873 and 1875 in Halifax County, any of which > could be the one who married William. I'd not COUNT on her having married > a Slauenwhite first, as it is QUITE rare for a widow to list a MARRIED > name in these sorts of records. Not impossible, but rare. One would also > have to venture a guess that she died after 1957, as there is no > "matching" record of death in the NS VR database of an Annie(etc) Smith > dying between 1954 and 1957. However, she could also have remarried after > William's death, so that MAY be a moot point. > > Has anyone successfully tracked William in 1911? > > Jared > > >> John Cordes wrote: >>> I should have added: >>> >>> ... and of course there's still no clue how the name >>> Slau(e)nwhite gets into the picture. >> >> I think that it would not be too difficult to program the search engine >> for the VSs to include a search on the given name of the spouse in a >> marriage record. AIR there are 236 marriage records with Slauenwhite. >> >> Bob can go through the records and find an Annie who married a >> Slauenwhite. >>> >>> John >>> >>> On [2007-06-07 at 10:36pm] John Cordes <John.Cordes@dal.ca> wrote: >>>> Bob, >>>> >>>> How about this marriage record? >>>> >>>> Anna A. Patten and William F. Smith married 1901 in Halifax >>>> County >>>> >>>> 1901 - Book: 1819 - Page: 274 - Number: 333 >>>> >>>> He is William Francis Smith, from Sambro, age 30, s/o Henry & >>>> Annie. She is Anna Archibald Patten, age 35, from Sydney. >>>> >>>> Seems close except for one thing: she is listed as a >>>> spinster. Hm... >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> On [2007-06-07 at 06:53pm] John Cordes <John.Cordes@dal.ca> wrote: >>>>> Hi Bob, >>>>> >>>>> I guess it goes without saying that you didn't find a >>>>> marriage registration for Wm. Francis Smith and Annie >>>>> Slauenwhite? >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> On [2007-06-07 at 06:50pm] Bob Hegerich <bobh36@cox.net> wrote: >>>>>> William Francis SMITH is b. 16 Oct 1871 [NS Births, 1871, >>>>>> book 1810, page 123, #1029] at Bald Rock, s/o Henry and Ann >>>>>> Elizabeth (GRAY) SMITH, who m. 29 Jan 1870 [ibid]. He dies >>>>>> 09 Aug 1954 at Halifax [NS deaths, 1954, book 1954, page >>>>>> 4071]. Now here's the puzzle. >>>>>> >>>>>> On his death certificate, his wife says she is Annie >>>>>> SLAUENWHITE SMITH. However, at this point, I haven't even >>>>>> the foggiest notion who she might be. Either my brain has >>>>>> temporarily ceased functioning, or she is someone I haven't >>>>>> seen before. Either way, if anyone has a clue as to her >>>>>> identity, I would really like to hear from you. >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> Basic List Commands: >>> >>> 1. To post to the list >>> Send a message to: >>> NOVA-SCOTIA-L@rootsweb.com >>> >>> 2. 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