Hello Kim, Bob, Darlene, Lucie, Judy.... and all who responded to my query about Bourg's Passage; I believe I have my answer: In trying to track my ancestor, Jean Pierre Murphy, my uncle's notes said that John Pierre was in Chezzetcook at the time of Fr. J. Mathurin Bourg's passage (who was there briefly), and then left when Fr. James Jones arrived. Not knowing where Jean Pierre came from, but knowing he reared 10 children in Chezzetcook, this tells me that it did not mean Bourg had died, or had been deported, but that he "passed through Chezzetcook during the time Jean Pierre was there." Thank goodness for all of my genealogy friends, and your help. Sherry --- On Sun, 3/14/10, Kim Stevens <[email protected]> wrote: From: Kim Stevens <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NS-L] BOURG Question.... To: "Darlene Morrison" <[email protected]>, "bob gillis" <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 6:11 PM And so where are the registers of RC BMD in Halifax from 1785 to 1800? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Darlene Morrison Sent: Sunday, 14 March, 2010 14:41 To: bob gillis Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NS-L] BOURG Question.... It appears that this is when Father Joseph-Mathurin Bourge was transferred from Quebec to the new Catholic parish in Halifax. You can find it all here: www.umanitoba.ca/colleges/st_pauls/ccha/Back%20Issues/CCHA1950/ Osborne.pdf Another group of the flock now claimed attention. At Halifax a considerable number of English-speaking Catholics had settled and were in need of a resident priest to protect their interests in the new land. With a genuine spirit of charity Father Bourg made determined efforts to have the British authorities remove certain restrictions which prevented the Irish Catholics of Halifax the free exercise of their religion. We note that the unjust Statutes regarding the “holding of land” and “public worship” were repealed by the General Assembly of Nova Scotia on December 2nd, 1783, after concerted action had been taken by the Irish Catholics. This new law was ratified and sanctioned by the King on July 2nd, 1784. With the removal of restrictions to the practice of their religion the Catholics of Halifax petitioned Mgr. Talbot of London to send them a priest. The prelate reminded them that Halifax was not under his jurisdiction and that their request should be made to the Bishop of Quebec. When the matter came to the attention of Mgr. Briand of Quebec, he appointed Father Bourg as pastor of the new parish. And the records tell us he took charge on the first day of August, 1785. Father Bourg had only been in his parish a few weeks when Father James Jones, a Capuchin, landed at Halifax direct from Cork, Ireland. According to data at hand, we find that Father Jones was well endowed with fine qualities of heart and mind, causing him to be mentioned in official letters as being “a very good priest, a learned man, and a gifted preacher.” After some months Father Bourg decided it would be in the best interests of souls if the parish were given to the Capuchin Father and that he himself would return to Bay Chaleur. Such an arrangement was made with the On 14-Mar-10, at 6:13 PM, bob gillis wrote: >> Mathurin Bourg ---------------------------------------- Basic List Commands: 1. To post to the list Send a message to: [email protected] 2. How to unsubscribe a. List mode: Send a message to NOVA-SCOTIA-L- [email protected] that contains only the word unsubscribe b. Digest mode: Send a message to NOVA-SCOTIA-D- [email protected] that contains only the word unsubscribe 3. How to subscribe Send an email containing only the word subscribe to [email protected] 4. How to change to Digest mode a. Unsubscribe from List mode (2.a. above) b. Subscribe to Digest mode Send an email containing only the word subscribe to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------- Basic List Commands: 1. To post to the list Send a message to: [email protected] 2. How to unsubscribe a. List mode: Send a message to NOVA-SCOTIA-L- [email protected] that contains only the word unsubscribe b. Digest mode: Send a message to NOVA-SCOTIA-D- [email protected] that contains only the word unsubscribe 3. How to subscribe Send an email containing only the word subscribe to [email protected] 4. How to change to Digest mode a. Unsubscribe from List mode (2.a. above) b. Subscribe to Digest mode Send an email containing only the word subscribe to [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
As the St Anselm's, Chezzetcook, vital records begin in 1793, that could well be the answer. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of sherry trout Sent: Sunday, 14 March, 2010 16:54 To: Darlene Morrison; bob gillis; [email protected]; (AFC) <[email protected]> Judy MacIntyre Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [NS-L] BOURG.... Hello Kim, Bob, Darlene, Lucie, Judy.... and all who responded to my query about Bourg's Passage; I believe I have my answer: In trying to track my ancestor, Jean Pierre Murphy, my uncle's notes said that John Pierre was in Chezzetcook at the time of Fr. J. Mathurin Bourg's passage (who was there briefly), and then left when Fr. James Jones arrived. Not knowing where Jean Pierre came from, but knowing he reared 10 children in Chezzetcook, this tells me that it did not mean Bourg had died, or had been deported, but that he "passed through Chezzetcook during the time Jean Pierre was there." Thank goodness for all of my genealogy friends, and your help. Sherry --- On Sun, 3/14/10, Kim Stevens <[email protected]> wrote: From: Kim Stevens <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [NS-L] BOURG Question.... To: "Darlene Morrison" <[email protected]>, "bob gillis" <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 6:11 PM And so where are the registers of RC BMD in Halifax from 1785 to 1800? -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Darlene Morrison Sent: Sunday, 14 March, 2010 14:41 To: bob gillis Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [NS-L] BOURG Question.... It appears that this is when Father Joseph-Mathurin Bourge was transferred from Quebec to the new Catholic parish in Halifax. You can find it all here: www.umanitoba.ca/colleges/st_pauls/ccha/Back%20Issues/CCHA1950/ Osborne.pdf Another group of the flock now claimed attention. At Halifax a considerable number of English-speaking Catholics had settled and were in need of a resident priest to protect their interests in the new land. With a genuine spirit of charity Father Bourg made determined efforts to have the British authorities remove certain restrictions which prevented the Irish Catholics of Halifax the free exercise of their religion. We note that the unjust Statutes regarding the “holding of land” and “public worship” were repealed by the General Assembly of Nova Scotia on December 2nd, 1783, after concerted action had been taken by the Irish Catholics. This new law was ratified and sanctioned by the King on July 2nd, 1784. With the removal of restrictions to the practice of their religion the Catholics of Halifax petitioned Mgr. Talbot of London to send them a priest. The prelate reminded them that Halifax was not under his jurisdiction and that their request should be made to the Bishop of Quebec. When the matter came to the attention of Mgr. Briand of Quebec, he appointed Father Bourg as pastor of the new parish. And the records tell us he took charge on the first day of August, 1785. Father Bourg had only been in his parish a few weeks when Father James Jones, a Capuchin, landed at Halifax direct from Cork, Ireland. According to data at hand, we find that Father Jones was well endowed with fine qualities of heart and mind, causing him to be mentioned in official letters as being “a very good priest, a learned man, and a gifted preacher.” After some months Father Bourg decided it would be in the best interests of souls if the parish were given to the Capuchin Father and that he himself would return to Bay Chaleur. Such an arrangement was made with the On 14-Mar-10, at 6:13 PM, bob gillis wrote: >> Mathurin Bourg ---------------------------------------- Basic List Commands: 1. To post to the list Send a message to: [email protected] 2. How to unsubscribe a. 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> Yes. Father Bourge would have passed through Chezzencook to > administer sacraments just as he would have visited the other > communities in that very large parish district of Halifax. > > As the paper by Osborne stated, he arrived to oversee the parish of > Halifax in 1785, (the same year that Pierre arrived in > Chezzetcook). Then after only being here a few weeks, Father Jones > arrived in Halifax from Ireland. A few months later, Father Bourg > decided to leave the parish of Halifax in the good hands of Father > Jones and he returned to his previous post in Chaleur. He was here > in Halifax only briefly so would have been a very busy man given > the vast area and number of communities that he would have had to > administer to. > It is so neat that you have this detailed information from your > uncle to help direct you in your family genealogy search. > > >> On 14-Mar-10, at 8:53 PM, sherry trout wrote: > Hello Kim, Bob, Darlene, Lucie, Judy.... and all who responded to > my query about Bourg's Passage; I believe I have my answer: > > In trying to track my ancestor, Jean Pierre Murphy, my uncle's > notes said that John Pierre was in Chezzetcook at the time of Fr. > J. Mathurin Bourg's passage (who was there briefly), and then left > when Fr. James Jones arrived. > > Not knowing where Jean Pierre came from, but knowing he reared 10 > children in Chezzetcook, this tells me that it did not mean Bourg > had died, or had been deported, but that he "passed through > Chezzetcook during the time Jean Pierre was there." > > Thank goodness for all of my genealogy friends, and your help. > Sherry > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Darlene Morrison > Sent: Sunday, 14 March, 2010 14:41 > To: bob gillis > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [NS-L] BOURG Question.... > > > It appears that this is when Father Joseph-Mathurin Bourge was > transferred from Quebec to the new Catholic parish in Halifax. You > can find it all here: > > www.umanitoba.ca/colleges/st_pauls/ccha/Back%20Issues/CCHA1950/ > Osborne.pdf > > Another group of the flock now claimed attention. At Halifax a > considerable number of English-speaking Catholics had settled and > were in > need of a resident priest to protect their interests in the new land. > With a > genuine spirit of charity Father Bourg made determined efforts to > have the > British authorities remove certain restrictions which prevented the > Irish > Catholics of Halifax the free exercise of their religion. > We note that the unjust Statutes regarding the “holding of land” and > “public worship” were repealed by the General Assembly of Nova > Scotia on > December 2nd, 1783, after concerted action had been taken by the Irish > Catholics. This new law was ratified and sanctioned by the King on > July 2nd, > 1784. > With the removal of restrictions to the practice of their religion the > Catholics of Halifax petitioned Mgr. Talbot of London to send them a > priest. > The prelate reminded them that Halifax was not under his jurisdiction > and > that their request should be made to the Bishop of Quebec. > When the matter came to the attention of Mgr. Briand of Quebec, he > appointed Father Bourg as pastor of the new parish. And the records > tell us > he took charge on the first day of August, 1785. > Father Bourg had only been in his parish a few weeks when Father > James Jones, a Capuchin, landed at Halifax direct from Cork, Ireland. > According to data at hand, we find that Father Jones was well endowed > with > fine qualities of heart and mind, causing him to be mentioned in > official > letters as being “a very good priest, a learned man, and a gifted > preacher.” > After some months Father Bourg decided it would be in the best > interests > of souls if the parish were given to the Capuchin Father and that he > himself would return to Bay Chaleur. 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