Hi everyone, This comes from the book "The Little Dutch Village" written by Devonna & Don Edwards from the introduction ...."Dutch Village no longer exists on government maps, although one of Halifax's main arteries, Dutch Village Road, derives its name from the original settlement. Dutch Village originally consisted of the mile-and-a-half area between the head of the Northwest Arm and St. Margarets Bay Road ...... Until 1766, the only way to reach Dutch Village from Halifax was by the narrow road .... that branched off at the southeast side of the North Blockhouse. On September 29, 1766, the Germans of the little Dutch village petitioned for a new and shorter road between Halifax and their settlement. As a result, Bayers Road was extended form near the Middle Blockhouse (now the corner of Bayers Road and Connaught Avenue) to the original road near Deal's Little Pond to the west. This road became the principal highway between Halfiax and Dutch Village. Over time, Dutch Village was swallowed by the expansion of Fairview from the north and Armdale from the south." Hope this is of some help. Liz Burbidge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Meredith" <[email protected]> To: "LUNEN-Links" <[email protected]>; "Nova scotia" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [NS-L] [LL] Johannes SCHMIDT/SMITH wife > When I was doing the research for my book I found out that the Foreign > Protestants from the ship Gale were sent out to the "isthmus' to clear the > land for a fort. So that could also have been what is the Park at the end > of Spring Garden Road today, or out Bedford area. They stayed there until > it was completed, and it was some distance from the settlement at that > time. > > > Barb > > > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:47 AM, John Cordes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Jay and Scott: >> >> Thanks for your contributions, which both appear eminently >> sound. While not precisely consistent, at least they place the >> location much closer to Halifax, making more sense in the >> context than my suggestion. >> >> Note to Jay -- I do believe I may have run across that Dutch - >> Deutsch idea on occasion, over the years... <vbg> >> >> John Cordes >> >> >> On [2010-05-13 at 09:10pm] [email protected] < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> > I ran into this when researching my book "Ketchum's Folly" more thna >> > ten >> years ago..Ketchum's railway was built on gthe Isthmus of Chignecto, but >> at >> that time "isthmus" was a popular word for any thin stretch of land >> connecting two larger stretches. >> > >> > I recall running across the phase "blockhouse and isthmus" when it >> referred to what is now the Dutch Village area of Halifax...does this >> make a >> closer geographical connection to your Schmidts?..."Dutch" was actually a >> corruption of "Deutch" (German) and some Swiss spoke German. >> > >> > Jay Underwood >> > Elmsdale >> >> On [2010-05-13 at 09:10pm] Scott W. TEAL <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > The Block House and the Isthmus as far as I know was the area where >> > Eaglewood Subdivision now exists in Bedford, Nova Scotia. Roughly >> that >> > area at any rate give or take a few miles / km. For a less specific >> > answer - Bedford. >> > The Johannes Schmidt mentioned - I think I have a death date for >> > him >> > somewhere. He only fathered 2 or 3 daughters and died fairly >> > young, >> > about 1762 from what I recall. >> > I've never had any cause to suspect that he - this "Johannes >> > Schmidt" >> > was the father of Johann Jacob Schmidt of Broad Cove. Johannes >> > Schmidt / John Smith........rather common name. >> > - Scott >> > >> > ---- John Cordes <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > I should qualify (correct!) one thing I said below: the list >> > > of heads of families is not restricted to Halifax -- that is my >> > > mistake. I do not know which "Block House" is being referred >> > > to. I am also not positive about "Isthmus" but *guess* that it >> > > probably refers to what is meant even now by 'isthmus' in Nova >> > > Scotia, namely the Isthmus of Chignecto. Not at all sure about >> > > any of this -- anyone? >> > > >> > > John >> > > >> > > On [2010-05-13 at 06:29pm] John Cordes <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > Hi Bob, >> > > > >> > > > I will quote your whole message for completeness, but only >> > > > want to comment on the last part, the appearance of the name >> > > > "Johannes Schmidt" in a volume of the Nova Scotia Historical >> > > > Society. There is a "1" in each of the columns, Males above 16 >> > > > and Females above 16 for a Total of 2. >> > > > >> > > > The list appears in what seems to be a rather complete census >> > > > of Halifax, dated July, 1752: >> > > > >> > > > A list of the families of English, Swiss, etc., which >> > > > have been settled in Nova Scotia since the year 1749, and >> > > > who now are settlers in the places hereafter mentioned. >> > > > >> > > > It is interesting that this Johannes Schmidt is not living >> > > > with the "Swiss and Germans in the North Suburbs". >> > > > >> > > > John Cordes >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On [2010-05-13 at 05:30pm] bob gillis <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> <snip> >> > > > > Googling for "Johannes Schmidt" +"merry jacks" I find two pages >> both >> > > > > different OCRs of the same document. >> > > > > >> > > > > > 260 Nova, Scotia His[torical] Society. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > AT THE BLOCK HOUSE AND THE ISTHMUS. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > HEADS OF FAMILIES. Johnnes Schmidt, 1 >> > > > > >> > > > > (I cannot tell what classification of people this number 1 >> > > > > apples >> to: >> > > > > M.16, F>16, M,16 or F<16; I assume M>16. >> > > > > >> > > > > Can anyone tell me what volume of the C of NHS this Census or >> listing is >> > > > > in what is the listing and in what year the listing or Censuswas >> made? >> > > > > >> > > > > bob gillis >> >> ---------------------------------------- >> Basic List Commands: >> >> 1. To post to the list >> Send a message to: >> [email protected] >> >> 2. How to unsubscribe >> a. List mode: Send a message to NOVA-SCOTIA-L- >> [email protected] that contains only the word >> unsubscribe >> >> b. Digest mode: Send a message to NOVA-SCOTIA-D- >> [email protected] that contains only the word >> unsubscribe >> >> 3. How to subscribe >> Send an email containing only the word >> subscribe >> to [email protected] >> >> 4. How to change to Digest mode >> a. Unsubscribe from List mode (2.a. above) >> b. 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Thanks very much, Liz -- most helpful. John On [2010-05-14 at 03:05pm] Burbidge Family <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > This comes from the book "The Little Dutch Village" written by Devonna & Don > Edwards from the introduction ...."Dutch Village no longer exists on > government maps, although one of Halifax's main arteries, Dutch Village > Road, derives its name from the original settlement. Dutch Village > originally consisted of the mile-and-a-half area between the head of the > Northwest Arm and St. Margarets Bay Road ...... Until 1766, the only way to > reach Dutch Village from Halifax was by the narrow road .... that branched > off at the southeast side of the North Blockhouse. On September 29, 1766, > the Germans of the little Dutch village petitioned for a new and shorter > road between Halifax and their settlement. As a result, Bayers Road was > extended form near the Middle Blockhouse (now the corner of Bayers Road and > Connaught Avenue) to the original road near Deal's Little Pond to the west. > This road became the principal highway between Halfiax and Dutch Village. > Over time, Dutch Village was swallowed by the expansion of Fairview from the > north and Armdale from the south." > > Hope this is of some help. > > Liz Burbidge > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Meredith" <[email protected]> > To: "LUNEN-Links" <[email protected]>; "Nova scotia" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 12:58 PM > Subject: Re: [NS-L] [LL] Johannes SCHMIDT/SMITH wife > > > > When I was doing the research for my book I found out that the Foreign > > Protestants from the ship Gale were sent out to the "isthmus' to clear the > > land for a fort. So that could also have been what is the Park at the end > > of Spring Garden Road today, or out Bedford area. They stayed there until > > it was completed, and it was some distance from the settlement at that > > time. > > > > > > Barb > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:47 AM, John Cordes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Jay and Scott: > >> > >> Thanks for your contributions, which both appear eminently > >> sound. While not precisely consistent, at least they place the > >> location much closer to Halifax, making more sense in the > >> context than my suggestion. > >> > >> Note to Jay -- I do believe I may have run across that Dutch - > >> Deutsch idea on occasion, over the years... <vbg> > >> > >> John Cordes > >> > >> > >> On [2010-05-13 at 09:10pm] [email protected] < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > I ran into this when researching my book "Ketchum's Folly" more thna > >> > ten > >> years ago..Ketchum's railway was built on gthe Isthmus of Chignecto, but > >> at > >> that time "isthmus" was a popular word for any thin stretch of land > >> connecting two larger stretches. > >> > > >> > I recall running across the phase "blockhouse and isthmus" when it > >> referred to what is now the Dutch Village area of Halifax...does this > >> make a > >> closer geographical connection to your Schmidts?..."Dutch" was actually a > >> corruption of "Deutch" (German) and some Swiss spoke German. > >> > > >> > Jay Underwood > >> > Elmsdale > >> > >> On [2010-05-13 at 09:10pm] Scott W. TEAL <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > Hi, > >> > The Block House and the Isthmus as far as I know was the area where > >> > Eaglewood Subdivision now exists in Bedford, Nova Scotia. Roughly > >> that > >> > area at any rate give or take a few miles / km. For a less specific > >> > answer - Bedford. > >> > The Johannes Schmidt mentioned - I think I have a death date for > >> > him > >> > somewhere. He only fathered 2 or 3 daughters and died fairly > >> > young, > >> > about 1762 from what I recall. > >> > I've never had any cause to suspect that he - this "Johannes > >> > Schmidt" > >> > was the father of Johann Jacob Schmidt of Broad Cove. Johannes > >> > Schmidt / John Smith........rather common name. > >> > - Scott > >> > > >> > ---- John Cordes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > I should qualify (correct!) one thing I said below: the list > >> > > of heads of families is not restricted to Halifax -- that is my > >> > > mistake. I do not know which "Block House" is being referred > >> > > to. I am also not positive about "Isthmus" but *guess* that it > >> > > probably refers to what is meant even now by 'isthmus' in Nova > >> > > Scotia, namely the Isthmus of Chignecto. Not at all sure about > >> > > any of this -- anyone? > >> > > > >> > > John > >> > > > >> > > On [2010-05-13 at 06:29pm] John Cordes <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > Hi Bob, > >> > > > > >> > > > I will quote your whole message for completeness, but only > >> > > > want to comment on the last part, the appearance of the name > >> > > > "Johannes Schmidt" in a volume of the Nova Scotia Historical > >> > > > Society. There is a "1" in each of the columns, Males above 16 > >> > > > and Females above 16 for a Total of 2. > >> > > > > >> > > > The list appears in what seems to be a rather complete census > >> > > > of Halifax, dated July, 1752: > >> > > > > >> > > > A list of the families of English, Swiss, etc., which > >> > > > have been settled in Nova Scotia since the year 1749, and > >> > > > who now are settlers in the places hereafter mentioned. > >> > > > > >> > > > It is interesting that this Johannes Schmidt is not living > >> > > > with the "Swiss and Germans in the North Suburbs". > >> > > > > >> > > > John Cordes > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On [2010-05-13 at 05:30pm] bob gillis <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> <snip> > >> > > > > Googling for "Johannes Schmidt" +"merry jacks" I find two pages > >> both > >> > > > > different OCRs of the same document. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > 260 Nova, Scotia His[torical] Society. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > AT THE BLOCK HOUSE AND THE ISTHMUS. > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > HEADS OF FAMILIES. Johnnes Schmidt, 1 > >> > > > > > >> > > > > (I cannot tell what classification of people this number 1 > >> > > > > apples > >> to: > >> > > > > M.16, F>16, M,16 or F<16; I assume M>16. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Can anyone tell me what volume of the C of NHS this Census or > >> listing is > >> > > > > in what is the listing and in what year the listing or Censuswas > >> made? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > bob gillis