Hi Scott and all: AHA! Well, that's the third given name I have seen her by--she is apparently baptised as Helena Elizabeth, and in her father's will she is Eleanor Elizabeth--thus upholding a fine old NS tradition (frequent name changes). :-) So far, I think I have found a grand total of two children for Helena/Eleanor/Hanna and Conrad--Sarah Ann b. 11 Apr 1831, whom I cannot find after her baptism, and John Jacob, b. 8 Jul 1833, who marries Julianna NOWE and has at least seven children. If anyone knows of any more children, I'm all ears. :-) -----Bob H----- On 6/7/2010 8:10 PM, Scott W. TEAL wrote: > Hi Bob, > > I'll share with you what I have after I looked at the original ZLL > register. > > I have that "Hanna Elisabeth Fader" married Johannes Conrad Meisner in > 1829. > > Hanna Elisabeth was born Aug 12, 1802, daughter of Jacob Fader & > Christianna Hirtle. > > Johannes Conrad Meisner (July 11, 1806) was the son of Johann Conrad > Meisner & Eve Marguerite Masson. > > I agree - Schauffelburg is not correct. > > > Johann Valentin Schauffelberger married Helene Elisabeth Haubold and > this is most likely the woman in question here. The godmother Helene > Elisabeth Haubold (Schauffelberger) was entered instead of the mother > in the DS database, who was "Hanna Elisabeth Fader". > > > > - Scott > > --- On *Mon, 6/7/10, Bob Hegerich /<[email protected]>/* wrote: > > > From: Bob Hegerich <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Parents of Jacob MESINER b. 08 Jul 1833--Yours truly > comes clean > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Cc: "Teal, Scott" <[email protected]> > Date: Monday, June 7, 2010, 3:30 PM > > Hi All: > > Thanks to Jean Tavanaee, I have learned a few things I didn't know > when I posted the note below. So now, the question becomes even > more interesting (at least to me). > > First the (apparent) facts: > > a. Here is Jacob MEISNER's birth record (again): > > > "MEISNER","Jacob","B","1833-10-28","1833-12-24","ML","Caspar & Cath",, > > b. From the LWT of Christina (HIRTLE) FADER 1770, wife of > Johann Jacob FADER 1767, and from Lunenburg County land records, > it is certain that Helena Elizabeth FADER, d/o Jacob and > Christina, marries a Conrad MEISNER. > > c. From the following birth record, it would appear that a > Conrad MEISNER marries one Helena Elizabeth SCHAUFFELBURG: > > "MEISNER","Sarah Ann","B","1831-04-11","1831-04-17","ZLL","Conrad > & Helene Eliz Schaufelberg",,"Valentine Schauffelberger" > > However, in poking around various sources (e.g., the 1871 Census), > I can come up with only one Conrad MEISNER who appears to fit the > total picture: > > "MEISNER","Conrad","B","1806-07-11","1806-07-11","ZLL","Conrad & > Eva Margaret Masson",, > > And so, left to my own devices, I would most likely conclude that > somebody (whose initials may or may not be DS) mis-copied a record > and that, while Valentine SCHAUFFELBERG may well have sponsored > Sarah Ann's baptism, his name accidentally got attached to the > wife of Conrad MEISNER, which should be FADER, not SCHAUFFLEBERG. > > Does anyone know something that might prove or disprove said > conclusion? > > -----Bob H----- > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Paretns of Jacob MESINER b. 08 Jul 1833 > Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 11:25:07 -0400 > From: Bob Hegerich <[email protected] > </mc/[email protected]>> > To: [email protected] > </mc/[email protected]> > <[email protected] > </mc/[email protected]>>, > [email protected] </mc/[email protected]> > <[email protected] </mc/[email protected]>> > > > > Hi All: > > Here is the Shankle birth record for one Jacob MEISNER: > > "MEISNER","Jacob","B","1833-07-08","1833-08-14","ZLL","Jacob& Helene > Eliz",,"Caspar Meisner& Cath" > > Can anyone ID his parents? > > -----Bob H----- > > > >