I’ve been reading these on 2 web sites and have gotten a charge out of them, my mother use to sing “I’m my own grandpa” long before hearing about Ray! I’m related to my own mom 15 different ways. Besides being her daughter she is my 6th, 8th, 9th 10th and the list is rather endless. That is only one I’ve listed from the kinship report from family tree maker. When adding the Steeves line from New Brunswick and how often they intermarried bet one would not even wish to try. In the early years as people came to America and Canada it was understandable they had little to chose from. So what was the excuse as time goes by and more families landed in these countries? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.4/860 - Release Date: 6/21/2007 5:53 PM

Betty, If I interpreted correctly, I would offer the following relationship for these folks: "But, in the process, I was reminded of the family-tree of John CROSBY (1797-1854) in Arlington, MA. His grandparents were Samuel FROST and Abigail CUTTER, and Samuel's brother, Ephraim, married Abigail's sister, Mary. So, the daughter of Samuel was the half-cousin? of Ephraim's son, Ephraim?" *** d/o Samuel was "double cousin" of s/o Ephraim. Cousin by an aunt on her mother's side and an uncle on her father's side. "Going back to John, who was the grandson of Samuel FROST, he married Mary BUCKNAM, who was the granddaughter of Ephraim, son of Ephraim FROST." So, how were John and Mary related? :o) *** Since Samuel and Ephraim were brothers (in same generation) and John and Mary were grandchildren of the two brothers (also same generation), they would be, by common set of GREAT-grandparents, 2nd cousins. If they were children of the marriages previously mentioned, they would also be double first cousins... or just "double cousins"... near as I can figure. Jared > Hello, > > I've been looking at my CROSBY ancestors this week, and I've discovered > that > my sister's research has a mistake in our family-line. But, it is a > mistake made by other researchers in the past. * > > But, in the process, I was reminded of the family-tree of John CROSBY > (1797-1854) in Arlington, MA. His grandparents were Samuel FROST and > Abigail CUTTER, and Samuel's brother, Ephraim, married Abigail's sister, > Mary. So, the daughter of Samuel was the half-cousin? of Ephraim's > son, > Ephraim? > > Going back to John, who was the grandson of Samuel FROST, he married Mary > BUCKNAM, who was the granddaughter of Ephraim, son of Ephraim FROST. > > So, how were John and Mary related? :o) > > And, coming down to my generation, my grandfather had 3 wives. He > only > fathered children with his first wife. But, he had step-children with > both his second wife and third wife. We had met our step-cousins with > his 3rd wife when we were children. But, we never met the step-cousins > from the second wife as she died when I was a toddler. > > But, because of my postings on the Lists and Boards, one of the > grandchildren responded to me, and we have been corresponding since. > And, > they invited me out to Central Massachusetts to meet them 2 summers ago ! > > (The 2nd wife was Mrs. Hazel (SHAW) (McAVOUR) (BEDELL) LEWIS, and she had > a > McAVOUR son and four BEDELL children. If my brain is working this > morning, the 4 BEDELL children were my father's step-siblings ! So, > the > children of the BEDELL step-daughters and step-son, were his step-nieces > and > step-nephew. (It was the BEDELL step-grandchildren of my grandfather > whom I met.) So, how are we related? > > And, to add to the discussion, my father's KIDDER uncle married my > mother's > KERR sister. So, my mother's sister was - by marriage - her aunt ! > And > my father's uncle was - by marriage - also his brother-in-law ! And, > thus, my father's male first-cousin was also - by marriage - his nephew ! > So, Clinton is both my first-cousin and second-cousin ? > :o) Did I figure that right? > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > * > Researchers in "town histories" in MA have a Simon CROSBY, b1758, marrying > Lydia H. FROST in 1787 and having only one son, John in 1797. And, > having > the same Simon CROSBY marrying a Sarah HOWE in 1789 and moving to NH and > having at least 7 children. > > So, instead of my sister coming up with a family-line of CROSBY's going > back > to Simon in Billerica, MA, I now have to start from scratch trying to > find > out who the parents were of the Simon who married in Cambridge, MA > (instead > of the Simon marrying in Brookfield, MA.) > > > > New List created on Feb. 1: CAN-USA-MIGRATION > > For Genealogy researchers, please remember to check the archives of the > Lists & Boards for both your surnames and place-names. > > > ---------------------------------------- > Basic List Commands: > > 1. To post to the list > Send a message to: > NOVA-SCOTIA-L@rootsweb.com > > 2. How to unsubscribe > a. List mode: Send a message to NOVA-SCOTIA-L- > request@rootsweb.com that contains only the word > unsubscribe > > b. Digest mode: Send a message to NOVA-SCOTIA-D- > request@rootsweb.com that contains only the word > unsubscribe > > 3. How to subscribe > Send an email containing only the word > subscribe > to NOVA-SCOTIA-L-request@rootsweb.com > > 4. How to change to Digest mode > a. Unsubscribe from List mode (2.a. above) > b. Subscribe to Digest mode > Send an email containing only the word > subscribe > to NOVA-SCOTIA-D-request@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOVA-SCOTIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------ Jared "Jed" Handspicker jedh@jedh.com

georgen@ns.sympatico.ca wrote: > Tuesday, December 1, 1908...The Morning Chronicle, Halifax, N.S. > Halifax Day By Day > > Among the schooners arriving with cargo Sunday and Monday were: > > Elsie F., Nauss, Chester, 1600 bushels sand; What do the various fields mean: 1 = ship name, 2 = ?, 3 = port of departure, 4 = weight and cargo. bob gillis > Cavalier, Bell, Lahave, 750 Bay, 1000 bushels gravel; > Rescue, Dauphinee, Ingram Docks, 600 bushels sand; > Cavalier, Bell, Lahave, 700 quintals dry fish > Spectulator, Burke, L'Ardoise, C.B., 9250 quintals cod, 550 bbs mackeral; > St. Patrick, Corkum, Jeddore, 135 M. staves, 5 M. lumber, 7 bbls herring; > Bonnie B., Publicover, Blandford, 140 dozen cabbage, 69 half bbls kroat; > Stella, Laundry, Charlottetown, 1000 bushels potatoes, 320 bushels turnipe; > Leading Star, Mitchell, Chester, 1000 bushels sand. > > ---------------------------------------- > Basic List Commands: > > 1. To post to the list > Send a message to: > NOVA-SCOTIA-L@rootsweb.com > > 2. How to unsubscribe > a. List mode: Send a message to NOVA-SCOTIA-L- > request@rootsweb.com that contains only the word > unsubscribe > > b. Digest mode: Send a message to NOVA-SCOTIA-D- > request@rootsweb.com that contains only the word > unsubscribe > > 3. How to subscribe > Send an email containing only the word > subscribe > to NOVA-SCOTIA-L-request@rootsweb.com > > 4. How to change to Digest mode > a. Unsubscribe from List mode (2.a. above) > b. Subscribe to Digest mode > Send an email containing only the word > subscribe > to NOVA-SCOTIA-D-request@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NOVA-SCOTIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This week, I had discovered the informative website for Charlotte: Charlotte Taylor - Her Life and Times <http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/charlotte_taylor/index.htm>: Diana Trena wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Doug @ Judy" >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:01 PM >Subject: Re: [NS-L] Confusing Family Relationships > > > > >>Trena - Are aware a book was recently released on the life of Chalotte >>Taylor? If you don't know about that you are in for a geat surprise - she >>was a remarkable woman. The Nine Lives of Charlotte Taylor - author Sally >>Armstrong >> >> > > >Hi Judy, > >Yes, I have the book. Darn good thing Charlotte was my ancestor, for I >would have wasted my $34.97 + tax. In my opinion, it doesn't live up to >Sally ARMSTRONG's impressive credentials as a writer. > >Yes Charlotte was quite a woman, though I'd already known that from other >descendants who had researched her over the course of many years. > >

Hello, I've been looking at my CROSBY ancestors this week, and I've discovered that my sister's research has a mistake in our family-line. But, it is a mistake made by other researchers in the past. * But, in the process, I was reminded of the family-tree of John CROSBY (1797-1854) in Arlington, MA. His grandparents were Samuel FROST and Abigail CUTTER, and Samuel's brother, Ephraim, married Abigail's sister, Mary. So, the daughter of Samuel was the half-cousin? of Ephraim's son, Ephraim? Going back to John, who was the grandson of Samuel FROST, he married Mary BUCKNAM, who was the granddaughter of Ephraim, son of Ephraim FROST. So, how were John and Mary related? :o) And, coming down to my generation, my grandfather had 3 wives. He only fathered children with his first wife. But, he had step-children with both his second wife and third wife. We had met our step-cousins with his 3rd wife when we were children. But, we never met the step-cousins from the second wife as she died when I was a toddler. But, because of my postings on the Lists and Boards, one of the grandchildren responded to me, and we have been corresponding since. And, they invited me out to Central Massachusetts to meet them 2 summers ago ! (The 2nd wife was Mrs. Hazel (SHAW) (McAVOUR) (BEDELL) LEWIS, and she had a McAVOUR son and four BEDELL children. If my brain is working this morning, the 4 BEDELL children were my father's step-siblings ! So, the children of the BEDELL step-daughters and step-son, were his step-nieces and step-nephew. (It was the BEDELL step-grandchildren of my grandfather whom I met.) So, how are we related? And, to add to the discussion, my father's KIDDER uncle married my mother's KERR sister. So, my mother's sister was - by marriage - her aunt ! And my father's uncle was - by marriage - also his brother-in-law ! And, thus, my father's male first-cousin was also - by marriage - his nephew ! So, Clinton is both my first-cousin and second-cousin ? :o) Did I figure that right? Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) * Researchers in "town histories" in MA have a Simon CROSBY, b1758, marrying Lydia H. FROST in 1787 and having only one son, John in 1797. And, having the same Simon CROSBY marrying a Sarah HOWE in 1789 and moving to NH and having at least 7 children. So, instead of my sister coming up with a family-line of CROSBY's going back to Simon in Billerica, MA, I now have to start from scratch trying to find out who the parents were of the Simon who married in Cambridge, MA (instead of the Simon marrying in Brookfield, MA.) New List created on Feb. 1: CAN-USA-MIGRATION For Genealogy researchers, please remember to check the archives of the Lists & Boards for both your surnames and place-names.

Tuesday, December 1, 1908...The Morning Chronicle, Halifax, N.S. Halifax Day By Day Among the schooners arriving with cargo Sunday and Monday were: Elsie F., Nauss, Chester, 1600 bushels sand; Cavalier, Bell, Lahave, 750 Bay, 1000 bushels gravel; Rescue, Dauphinee, Ingram Docks, 600 bushels sand; Cavalier, Bell, Lahave, 700 quintals dry fish Spectulator, Burke, L'Ardoise, C.B., 9250 quintals cod, 550 bbs mackeral; St. Patrick, Corkum, Jeddore, 135 M. staves, 5 M. lumber, 7 bbls herring; Bonnie B., Publicover, Blandford, 140 dozen cabbage, 69 half bbls kroat; Stella, Laundry, Charlottetown, 1000 bushels potatoes, 320 bushels turnipe; Leading Star, Mitchell, Chester, 1000 bushels sand.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug @ Judy" Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [NS-L] Confusing Family Relationships > Trena - Are aware a book was recently released on the life of Chalotte > Taylor? If you don't know about that you are in for a geat surprise - she > was a remarkable woman. The Nine Lives of Charlotte Taylor - author Sally > Armstrong Hi Judy, Yes, I have the book. Darn good thing Charlotte was my ancestor, for I would have wasted my $34.97 + tax. In my opinion, it doesn't live up to Sally ARMSTRONG's impressive credentials as a writer. Yes Charlotte was quite a woman, though I'd already known that from other descendants who had researched her over the course of many years. Her 2 x great-granddaughter married a fellow from Bedford/Sackville Halifax Co (my g-gp), in 1892. They had 9 children, majority of whom stayed in NS. Most of them also had large familys (my grandparents also had 9 & 47 grandchildren). So there are more than just a few descendants still around NS. Sadly Sally also protrayed Phillip HIERLIHY in a very poor, inaccurate light, which I think would upset some of his descendants .. know it did me. Phillip's brother or uncle .. relationship is not entirely clear, but thought to be his brother ... Timothy HIERLIHY was the founder of Antigonish. I had not known that until recently. Are you another descendant? Toni ~ Ontario

Trena - Are aware a book was recently released on the life of Chalotte Taylor? If you don't know about that you are in for a geat surprise - she was a remarkable woman. The Nine Lives of Charlotte Taylor - author Sally Armstrong Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trena" <amheater@cogeco.ca> To: <nova-scotia@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:32 PM Subject: [NS-L] Confusing Family Relationships > Not too long ago I descovered I had some deep roots in New Brunswick, in > an > area which originally had been a part of Nova Scotia. Just after posting > earlier today to the list, whilst looking through some of the data > recently > sent to me, I happened to take particular note of this group of people who > are directly related to me. > > My 5 x great-grandmother was married at least 3 times, although only one > actual marriage record has been found for the third marriage, which > happened > to be to my 5 x g-grandfather (Charlotte TAYLOR and Phillip HIERLIHY). > > With her first husband John BLAKE, Charlotte TAYLOR had son Robert BLAKE > (c1781 - c1852) who married Mary Ann JAMIESON. > Robert and Mary Ann had a son John BLAKE (c1813 - 1870) > > My 5 x g-grandparents (Charlotte & Phillip) had a daughter Honoria > HIERLIHY > (1794 - aft1856) m. 1) John MURRAY (my 4 x g-gp); 2) Ephraim GAY > > Honoria and John MURRAY had a daughter Ann MURRAY (1815 - 1855) > Honoria and Ephraim GAY had a daughter Jane GAY (ca 1835 -?) > > John BLAKE, half-nephew to Honoria married: 1) Ann MURRAY; 2) Jane GAY - > both half-first cousins to him > > Another sister to Ann and Jane is (Charlotte Sophia MURRAY) my 3 x g-gm. > > Toni ~ Ontario > > ---------------------------------------- > Basic List Commands: > > 1. To post to the list > Send a message to: > NOVA-SCOTIA-L@rootsweb.com > > 2. How to unsubscribe > a. List mode: Send a message to NOVA-SCOTIA-L- > request@rootsweb.com that contains only the word > unsubscribe > > b. Digest mode: Send a message to NOVA-SCOTIA-D- > request@rootsweb.com that contains only the word > unsubscribe > > 3. How to subscribe > Send an email containing only the word > subscribe > to NOVA-SCOTIA-L-request@rootsweb.com > > 4. How to change to Digest mode > a. Unsubscribe from List mode (2.a. above) > b. Subscribe to Digest mode > Send an email containing only the word > subscribe > to NOVA-SCOTIA-D-request@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOVA-SCOTIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.19/663 - Release Date: 2/1/2007 > 2:28 PM > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Hardwick Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [NS-L] Question on "half cousins" > I'm wondering if the All-Mighty is enjoying this thread (about cousins) > and is having trouble controlling himself? HE probably likes doing puzzles, so did this to us on purpose! Many thanks Richard for the explaination regarding the other NS list. Toni ~

Not too long ago I descovered I had some deep roots in New Brunswick, in an area which originally had been a part of Nova Scotia. Just after posting earlier today to the list, whilst looking through some of the data recently sent to me, I happened to take particular note of this group of people who are directly related to me. My 5 x great-grandmother was married at least 3 times, although only one actual marriage record has been found for the third marriage, which happened to be to my 5 x g-grandfather (Charlotte TAYLOR and Phillip HIERLIHY). With her first husband John BLAKE, Charlotte TAYLOR had son Robert BLAKE (c1781 - c1852) who married Mary Ann JAMIESON. Robert and Mary Ann had a son John BLAKE (c1813 - 1870) My 5 x g-grandparents (Charlotte & Phillip) had a daughter Honoria HIERLIHY (1794 - aft1856) m. 1) John MURRAY (my 4 x g-gp); 2) Ephraim GAY Honoria and John MURRAY had a daughter Ann MURRAY (1815 - 1855) Honoria and Ephraim GAY had a daughter Jane GAY (ca 1835 -?) John BLAKE, half-nephew to Honoria married: 1) Ann MURRAY; 2) Jane GAY - both half-first cousins to him Another sister to Ann and Jane is (Charlotte Sophia MURRAY) my 3 x g-gm. Toni ~ Ontario

Trena, I'm not Richard, but I'll reply anyway. The Nova Scotia Roots (nsroots) list archive can be accessed through the website of GANS, the Genealogical Association of Nova Scotia, located at http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Recreation/GANS/ The explicit link for the nsroots archive, taken from the GANS site, is here: http://mailman.ednet.ns.ca/pipermail/nsroots/ John On [2007-06-21 at 05:35pm] Trena <amheater@cogeco.ca> wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Richard Hardwick" > Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:39 AM > Subject: [NS-L] Related to myself - how? SUMMARY > ***snipped*** > > Exactly what is NSroots@ednet.ns.ca all about? Sounds > interesting. Where can I access the archives?

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Cordes" Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [NS-L] Related to myself - how? SUMMARY > I'm not Richard, but I'll reply anyway. > > The Nova Scotia Roots (nsroots) list archive can be accessed > through the website of GANS, the Genealogical Association of > Nova Scotia, located at > http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Recreation/GANS/ > > The explicit link for the nsroots archive, taken from the > GANS site, is here: > http://mailman.ednet.ns.ca/pipermail/nsroots/ Many thanks John. Much appreciated. Toni

----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Hardwick" Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [NS-L] Question on "half cousins" > Now what would we call the offspring if the > parent sisters were twins and the parent brothers were twins? Richard, I would presume it would be the same as that of non-twin siblings. Would imagine though, the chances of twins being born in future generations would increase. Just an observation ... no real experience with multiple births in my close(r) family, though they are a frequent occurance in a few lateral lines on my Mum's paternal side (NE of Scotland). Toni ~ Ontario

----- Original Message ----- From: "Lmarshall" Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:43 AM Subject: [NS-L] THE FLOUR SACK---OFF TOPIC BUT--- >A friend sent this so thought I would share--- > THE FLOUR SACK ***snipped*** How well I remember all the things in my grandparent's farmhouse (built by her father) on the Cobequid Rd, that flour and sugar sacks were used for. Also the burlap ones. Think the later held brown sugar (from the West Indies?), but am not sure if I'm remembering that correctly or not. My paternal granddad work at Moir's Mill in Millview (Bedford) for over 62y, so that is where many of the various sacks came from. Can remember my gran trying to get the logo off the bags! There was a big pantry in the farmhouse, with built-in tin lined bins under the counter tops which held the white/brown sugars and flour, bought via Moir's was my understanding. Know my grandfather used the burlap sacks to carry live lobsters. He would arrive with a full sack or two, dump them on the kitchen floor and my gran, who had the pot at the boil on the woodstove, would pick them up with a long pole, quickly dropping them into the water. I generally ran from the room as they were being dunked .. couldn't stand to see some of them trying to get out of the pot or hear the sound they made. Didn't stop me from eating them though. Toni ~ Ontario [WYATT / STONE - Millview/Bedford/ Lower Sackville Halifax Co / Oxford & Cumberland Co.]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Hardwick" Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: [NS-L] Related to myself - how? SUMMARY ***snipped*** Richard, Exactly what is NSroots@ednet.ns.ca all about? Sounds interesting. Where can I access the archives? Ta - Toni

----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Hardwick" Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:39 AM Subject: [NS-L] Related to myself - how? SUMMARY > Hello all again > > I have received many a favorable response from several listers (on-list) > and one not so happy response (off-list) from a fellow that evidently > doesn't like to participate in discussions such as this. I consider this > type of question one that is a definite learning experience. I'm hoping > most others agree. ********snipped****** Was in the middle of answering your post, when the storm came back, causing a power outage. I agree with what you said Richard. Each of us has a delete button and no one is forcing another to 'participate' when they don't wish to. This list reminds me of the Lanark one. Wide variety of topics discussed, some not always just about NS in particular, but majority are definately learning experiences. Don't know who the 'List Granny' is on the Lanark list, as we never see any posts from them, but we seem to have free rein (to a large extent), making the list lively, with fascinating and informative posts. This NS list is somewhat similar. Many people, particularly those just starting to take up this addicting hobby, have trouble understanding or have never given 'relationships' any thought. Makes me think of my husband. When we were dating/first married, he always referred to his brother-in-law and niece as "my sister's husband", "my sister's child". It kind of 'bothered me' .. so I asked him why he did. He didn't know what they were to him! Now my bloke is not dumb (normally! <vbg>) but he'd never given it any thought. I lose him totally when I go beyond first cousin, even just to 1C1R (first cousin, once removed). He cannot believe I can keep all our living cousins' relationships (to us) straight. I've much contact with 2nd cousins, with whom I grew up. Their mother is still alive .. my 1C1R (who I call Aunt Sis, which confuses folk). She is 1C3R to my grandchildren. Her great-grandchildren are 4th cousins to my grandchildren. When someone takes up family research and manages to go back 2-3 generations, doing the lateral lines as well, it can become very confusing rather quickly. They may not realize at first that they are looking at cousin marriages. When you add to the mix, (keeping it simple .. <vbg>) uncles/aunts marrying the widow/widower of a deceased uncle/aunt and all of them had children previously, then more children are born from the re-marriage(s) ... then they marry cousins/step-cousins .. before long you are going in circles, pulling your hair out by the roots, trying to make sense of it all. With one of my families in Devon England, we have 2 sisters and a brother who married 2 brothers and a sister .. they were 3rd cousins to each other. There is more with those 3(6) lines, both before and after ... believe me it is very complicated. Have similar 'problems' with my Mum's paternal NE Scotland line. I don't consider myself an expert, but I have learned a few things in the past nearly 8y I've been at it (primarily UK research - extremely little in Canada), so try to help either with the resources I have or from personal experience. I think the discussion we've been having on this topic of being related to oneself and half-cousins etc, adds to the knowledge of those who are more recent to the hobby. If nothing else, it lets them know they are not going bonkers .. such relationships do exist. Toni ~ Ontario [WYATT / STONE - Millview/Bedford/ Lower Sackville Halifax Co / Oxford / Cumberland]

Hi Malcolm Thank you for the explanation, I appreciate your comments. Initially I was told by mother (who was told by her mother Ella) that Eric was a Maestro of Music, but had always struggled with the concept of how a coal miner could achieve this status. His marriage certificate stated that he was a violin teacher and his twin daughter's birth certificates stated that he was a teacher of music. Unfortunately, all of Eric's diplomas were burnt by his daughter Ella after her mother died. My mother said they were scrolls, tied with ribbon, covered in blue and silver stars, which she had tried to retrieve from the grate. Ella was quite bitter that her father had taken her younger sister to Canada (Ella's twin sister died) and she was placed into an orphanage. Unfortunately, in a fit of anger, all of the evidence was destroyed. Thanks again Malcolm. Regards, Jill On 6/21/07, Malcolm Moody <malcolm@archivecdbooks.ca> wrote: > > Hi Jill, > > Not to quibble with the substance of your posting, but to > avoid > possible future confusion, I believe your use of the term "Maestro of > Music" as a form of degree or qualification may be a misunderstanding > (if indeed that is what you meant.) > > The term "Maestro" is a form of respect conferred by general > consent > of the music community to an individual, based on their musical > ability. Most frequently used to indicate respect for a conducer (and > less frequently to a violin soloist) it is only an unofficial (social) > qualification. I have never heard of anyone being granted such a title > in the form of a degree in Britain, Canada or the US although it is > possible it is used in other music communities. > > The music degrees issued by universities in the named countries > follow > the same form as all of the arts degrees, i.e., Bachelor and Master > with all the sub classes and specialities as additions and qualifiers. > > Although rare, it is possible that an individual be granted an > honorary degree in recognition of their innate musicality and work in a > musical field. A rare honour indeed but may be the case here since it > is doubtful that Eric would be able to find the time required to work > his way through a university music degree course. > > I stand to be corrected on this but, I believe the term Maestro is > only used to describe musicians so it would be fine to simply describe > Eric as a Maestro without the "of music" appellation which raise > connotations of a formal degree. Otherwise, you would need to discover > his most senior formal degree and quote that to give him his full > title. > > Not wishing to be stuffy or officious. Just hoping to help you > avoid > future misunderstanding over a rather specialist form of address. :-) > > Malcolm > > Archive CD Books Canada Inc. > President: Malcolm Moody > PO Box 11 > Manotick > Ontario, K4M 1A2 > Canada. > (613) 692-2667 > WEB SITE: http://www.ArchiveCDBooks.ca > > > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:24:18 +0100 > > From: "jwyze1@gmail.com" <jwyze1@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [NS-L] Eric ARMSTRONG - Stellarton, Pictou - 1912-1951 > > To: "Nova scotia" <NOVA-SCOTIA-L@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: > > <d9bccb8b0706201324w7a48f73pe4bdf432e74fa0ac@mail.gmail.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > To everyone who thankfully responded to my original request for > > information about Eric Armstrong. > > > > You might be interested to know that today I received the obituary for > > Eric > > Armstrong which was very interesting and confirmed that - as well as > > being a > > coal miner - Eric was also a musician. > > > > My mother had always told me that Eric was a Maestro of Music and had > > diplomas and certificates for his musical achievements. Luckily, I > > have a > > photograph of Eric with his violin. > > > > As Eric was a coal miner and the son of a Seaman, it was difficult to > > believe that he really was an accomplished music and violin teacher, as > > stated on his marriage certificate to his first wife. However, the > > obituary > > stated that Eric was an authority on music and he had composed several > > songs > > as well as writing frequent articles for newspapers and magazines. > > > > The obituary also confirmed that he was survived by a son and a > > daughter. > > > > On June 27th I am having a letter published with a photograph of Eric > > in the > > Advocate. > > > > Without all of your help I may never have discovered any of this and I > > am > > very grateful to you all. Thanks again. > > > > Kind regards, Jill Wiseman > > ---------------------------------------- > Basic List Commands: > > 1. To post to the list > Send a message to: > NOVA-SCOTIA-L@rootsweb.com > > 2. How to unsubscribe > a. List mode: Send a message to NOVA-SCOTIA-L- > request@rootsweb.com that contains only the word > unsubscribe > > b. Digest mode: Send a message to NOVA-SCOTIA-D- > request@rootsweb.com that contains only the word > unsubscribe > > 3. How to subscribe > Send an email containing only the word > subscribe > to NOVA-SCOTIA-L-request@rootsweb.com > > 4. How to change to Digest mode > a. Unsubscribe from List mode (2.a. above) > b. Subscribe to Digest mode > Send an email containing only the word > subscribe > to NOVA-SCOTIA-D-request@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOVA-SCOTIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Regards, Jill

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jared Handspicker" Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 9:50 AM Subject: [NS-L] Question on "half cousins" > Given the discussion on "How I'm related to myself", I've noticed several > mentions of "half cousins". What, exactly IS a "half cousin?" I've heard > the term before, but find no such relationships when running the "Compute > Relationship" report with my software. Is it anything similar to a > half-sibling? As in sharing one parent, but not both? That's the only > explanation I can think of, at this point. That said, I'd THINK it would > mean half cousins share a single grandparent, and half second cousins > would share only one great-grandparent. Am I even close? All in Scotland ... I have many _ first _ half-cousins, etc. My maternal grandmother died in 1933 after giving birth to 6 children. My mother is #4. Grandfather re-married. Second wife died 12 days after birthing their only child. A daughter, who is now married with children and grandchildren. Grandfather married a 3rd time, with 5 children born to that marriage ... 2 of them long after my birth. All of those children are now married with children and grandchildren. So the children born to my Mum's step-mothers and her father are half-brothers/sisters to her and the other 5 born to her mother. They are also my half-uncles and half-aunts. Their children are my half-cousins and their grandchildren are my half-first cousins once removed. Their grandchildren are half-2nd cousins to my children. Degree of cousinship remains the same as normal, except "half-" is added. (Have several 'step-first cousins too.) [As I began to type this, we started to have a terrible thunder & lightening storm begin, with heavy hailstorm. Back garden's grass is all white as it is covered in hailstones! Thought my living room (lounge) windows were going to break, it was pounding at them so hard, making a horrible racket. Holy cow! Has been a long time since anything like this has happened here (north side of eastern end of L. Ontario) ... hope it doesn't spawn any tornados!!] Toni ~ Ontario

Thanks for coming to the rescue, John Richard Richard Hardwick (Researching direct lines in Nova Scotia and New England - HARDWICK, ARMSTRONG, BARTEAUX, SPURR, HENDERSON, BLACKMAR, MARSH) RiHardwick@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Cordes" <John.Cordes@dal.ca> To: "Trena" <amheater@cogeco.ca> Cc: "NOVA-SCOTIA" <NOVA-SCOTIA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [NS-L] Related to myself - how? SUMMARY > Trena, > > I'm not Richard, but I'll reply anyway. > > The Nova Scotia Roots (nsroots) list archive can be accessed > through the website of GANS, the Genealogical Association of > Nova Scotia, located at > http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Recreation/GANS/ > > The explicit link for the nsroots archive, taken from the > GANS site, is here: > http://mailman.ednet.ns.ca/pipermail/nsroots/ > > John > > > On [2007-06-21 at 05:35pm] Trena <amheater@cogeco.ca> wrote: >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Richard Hardwick" >> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:39 AM >> Subject: [NS-L] Related to myself - how? SUMMARY >> ***snipped*** >> >> Exactly what is NSroots@ednet.ns.ca all about? Sounds >> interesting. Where can I access the archives? > ---------------------------------------- > Basic List Commands: > > 1. To post to the list > Send a message to: > NOVA-SCOTIA-L@rootsweb.com > > 2. How to unsubscribe > a. List mode: Send a message to NOVA-SCOTIA-L- > request@rootsweb.com that contains only the word > unsubscribe > > b. Digest mode: Send a message to NOVA-SCOTIA-D- > request@rootsweb.com that contains only the word > unsubscribe > > 3. How to subscribe > Send an email containing only the word > subscribe > to NOVA-SCOTIA-L-request@rootsweb.com > > 4. How to change to Digest mode > a. Unsubscribe from List mode (2.a. above) > b. Subscribe to Digest mode > Send an email containing only the word > subscribe > to NOVA-SCOTIA-D-request@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NOVA-SCOTIA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pat and all I agree - this subject probably should be terminated for fear that we'll get additional "hate" mail. But I do have to offer a .wmv file that has the song "I'm my own Grandpa" being sung in an animated video. Cracks me up. This file courtesy of Ethyl. Anyone can contact me off list for a copy. I can't send attachments to the lists. I've had fun the last 2 days. Who says that genealogy has to be stiff and serious all the time? Richard Richard Hardwick (Researching direct lines in Nova Scotia and New England - HARDWICK, ARMSTRONG, BARTEAUX, SPURR, HENDERSON, BLACKMAR, MARSH) RiHardwick@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <curran_ph@ns.sympatico.ca> To: <RiHardwick@comcast.net> Cc: <tibert@ns.sympatico.ca> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:22 PM Subject: I'm My Own Grandpa >I think this has run its course on the list, but I just want to mention >that if, as with me, it really was many, many years ago that you were 23, >you would remember this as a Guy Lombardo song, not Ray Stevens. It was a >big hit for Lombardo and his singer, Kenny Gardner, around the late 40s and >was played regularly on the radio until the rock age struck a few years >later. I was only a kid then, but I've never forgotten the song - perhaps >because my father and my wife turned out to be third cousins. > > Thanks for bringing back some good memories. > > Pat Curran >